Pistons players ‘constantly’ complained about Lawrence Frank: ‘He doesn’t listen. There’s no real relationship’
Vincent Goodwill of the Detroit News:
One thing I constantly heard from Pistons players was "he doesn’t listen, there’s no real relationship". How is that on anybody BUT Frank?
Lawrence Frank benched Jonas Jerebko after a poor start to the season, played Rodney Stuckey off the ball and made Corey Maggette a perpetual DNP-CD. I’d argue each of those moves, while not in the individual players’ best interest, were best for the Pistons.
Jerebko was shooting too much and not defending or rebounding enough. At that point, he didn’t deserve regular minutes. Giving other players a chance when the Pistons still had postseason hopes, even as long shots, made sense.
Though Stuckey plays better with the ball in his hands, the Pistons needed to give Brandon Knight an opportunity to sink or swim as a point guard, and relegating Stuckey to an off-the-ball role was the only way to accomplish that.
The Pistons also needed to develop young wings like Kyle Singler, Khris Middleton and Kim English. There was no point blocking their progress just to give Maggette minutes.
No team – and I literally mean no team – can put all its players in the best position to succeed. There will always be some degree of overlap between skillsets, so some players will have to take back seats or play at least somewhat outside their comfort zones.
The key for a coach is communicating with players so understand and at least tolerate this. Apparently, Frank didn’t do this effectively.
However, I don’t place all the blame on him. Players tend to be more willing to buy into winning teams, and Joe Dumars didn’t assemble a team that was definitely ready to win.
This sounds like a microcosm of Frank’s tenure. The Pistons failed him, but he failed the Pistons, too.
Pistons roundtable: Wildcard questions
The (somewhat) annual Pistons roundtable has returned. Each day this week, our panel of Pistons writers will answer a question about the Pistons – all in one place. Please add your answers in the comments.
Drew Sharp, Detroit Free Press
Did this season show Tom Gores is being patient, or will it push him to show his impatience?
Gores made his fortune by nurturing an investment and maximizing its value. That demands patience and following a plan. I look for him to demand a playoff appearance next season and, as a result, I expect the Pistons to act more aggressively this off-season. But not impulsively. They won’t throw money at a problem simply because they possess the means.
Mike Payne, Detroit Bad Boys
If Jose Calderon leaves the Pistons this off-season, how big a setback would that be for Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe?
It would be unfortunate, but not an irreplaceable loss. If Detroit can get ahold of Jarrett Jack’s agent before hitting the bargain bin and the trade market, I’ll feel better about the loss. Calderon should be looked at as a temporary solution anyway, and Detroit’s search for the next point guard should begin today, Calderon or not. Bonus points for avoiding all combo guards in the search.
Phil Fattore, Pistons 101
Which Detroit bench player has had the most encouraging close to the season?
Jonas Jerebko’s recent resurgence is impressive, but the most encouraging bench player has been Khris Middleton. Scoring at least 10 points five times across March and April, Middleton is proving to be an efficient bench scorer. With Will Bynum’s expiring contract leaving his future unknown, it’s comforting to know that Middleton is capable of performing at a high level.
Daniel Poarch, Life on Dumars
What have we learned from Brandon Knight‘s post-injury play?
It’s been a year Knight would likely prefer to forget, but while he struggled after his return from injury in March, he’s still shown he can score as well as flashes of potential facilitating the offense. We’re still looking at more questions than answers, however. Is he a shooting guard or a point guard? A starter or a bench option? They’re questions the Pistons need to answer.
Eric Stafford, Life on Dumars
Do you see any hope for Brandon Knight at point guard?
There’s a little hope, but not much. Whether there’s hope or not, I still think he’s better suited to play shooting guard. That way the Pistons can cut down on the number of decisions he has to make with the ball. In the end he might fit better as a 6th man combo guard off the bench.
Thom Powell, Life on Dumars
Who has a brighter future, Kyle Singler or Khris Middleton?
Middleton has such a small sample size of production that I’m a bit reticent to pick him, but I’ll do it anyway. I thought Kim English would be the 2nd rounder that would play his way into the rotation, but Middleton made the most of Detroit’s end-of-season tank-fest and finished strong. Singler hit the rookie wall hard in 2013 and never really recovered. It doesn’t help his case that he’s three years older than Middleton, either.
Natalie Sitto, Need4Sheed.com
Did you get any joy from Rasheed Wallace’s comeback season with the Knicks?
Do NBA players like tattoos? It was nice to see Sheed play the roll that he’s comfortable with in the past few seasons. Limited minutes, limited conditioning and hanging out behind the arc and knocking down three’s. It’s hard to live in a world without Rasheed Wallace screaming "ball don’t lie!"
Patrick Hayes, PistonPowered
Rank the NBA prospects who played college basketball this season in the state of Michigan, regardless of whether they’re entering this year’s draft.
1. Trey Burke – He’s probably not a Chris Paul caliber player, but he might be Ty Lawson
2. Mitch McGary – I’d take him over Cody Zeller right now
3. Gary Harris – He’ll probably stay another year, but at worst, he’s a likely three and D shooting guard in the NBA
4. Adreian Payne – Another guy likely staying, expect Payne, projected as a second rounder this year, to be a top 15 prospect next year
5. Glen Robinson III – I’d like to see more of him playing a more natural wing position (he’s played a lot of four at Michigan), but he’s a NBA athlete and he can hit the corner three. Those are enough to get him on the court for someone.
6. Ray McCallum – Don’t sleep on the University of Detroit point guard, who was a bigger prospect than Burke and Keith Appling in high school. He turned down high major offers to play for his dad (it remains to be seen if that decision benefits him in the long run), but he can certainly play and he’ll get draft attention next year.
J.M. Poulard, PistonPowered
What do the Pistons do on the court that is most difficult for opponents to gameplan against?
The Pistons’ athleticism on the offensive boards was simply a nightmare for opponents. It didn’t matter how, they always managed to stick their noses in there for put backs.
Jameson Draper, PistonPowered
Should the Pistons consider re-signing Jason Maxiell?
No. Maxiell is dead weight to this team and is not providing anything in any facet of the game. Detroit has enough young big men (Monroe, Drummond, Kravtsov, Jerebko) and could use the extra roster spot to sign someone better. Maxiell will be very cheap, but it’s still not worth it.
Brady Fredericksen, PistonPowered
What do you make of Rodney Stuckey‘s strong finish to the season?
Nothing. He’s done this in 2011, 2010 and 2009, too. Five years into his career, there’s no real explanation as to why he seems to get hot late, but the one thing that is clear is that he can’t sustain that pace during the parts of the season that actually matter.
Joe Dumars, as opposed to Tom Gores, will run Pistons’ coaching search
Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:
Dumars will be the one running the show in this situation, as opposed to last time.
Gores will have his say but I don’t think he’ll be as adamant this time around. Likely the same as it was with Mr. D to an extent
If you recall, Joe Dumars preferred Mike Woodson to Lawrence Frank two years ago, but Tom Gores liked Frank more. I don’t think the Pistons would have hired Frank if Dumars strongly objected, but I believe if the call were Dumars’ alone, they would have hired Woodson.
Woodson certainly seems like a better coach than Frank, but Dumars’ last two hires before Tom Gores bought the team – John Kuester and Michael Curry – failed. I guess I have more faith in Dumars to find the right coach than I do in Gores, but it’s far from a lock Dumars will get this right.
Pistons reportedly won’t consider Bill Laimbeer, who interviewed poorly during last coaching search
Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:
Don’t think they’ll go through the Laimbeer thing again. From what I heard, nobody was really impressed with how he interviewed last time
This will disappoint a large and vocal contingent of Pistons fans who believe Laimbeer would answer all the team’s problems. I’m certainly not a member of that group, but the Pistons’ last three coaches – Lawrence Frank, John Kuester and Michael Curry – have failed. Maybe Joe Dumars doesn’t effectively use the interview process to determine the right hire.
Pistons move ahead of Wizards in draft slotting, get Clippers’ second-round pick
The Pistons won both drawings for determining draft order today.
Most importantly, if neither the Pistons nor Wizards move up in the lottery, Detroit will pick ahead of Washington. The Pistons also get one more lottery combination than the Wizards.
In the other relevant draw, the Clippers landed the No. 56 pick in the second round, meaning the pick will be conveyed to Detroit.
This was the Pistons’ best day since they traded Tayshaun Prince for Jose Calderon. These draft gain might turn out to be marginal, but they’re a welcome positive today.
As a matter of book-keeping, the Pistons also own their own second rounder. It will be No. 37 if they pick after Washington in the first round. It will be No. 38 if they pick before Washington in the first round.
Pistons gave Lawrence Frank quick hook, but not too quick
His NBA head-coaching career began extremely impressively. He guided his team to a few playoff berths. But his star faded when his team got off to a terrible start to the season, and he was fired.
Still, another team hired him as a head coach. At his next job, he posted back-to-back seasons with the equivalent of about 30 wins each. Again, his team faced a decision of how to handle his future.
The Detroit Pistons fired Lawrence Frank.
The Boston Celtics retained Doc Rivers.
In the previous 10 years, someone has coached two consecutive full seasons with the same team and posted a winning percentage equal to or worse than Frank’s with the Pistons 17 times. In a majority of those instances (10 of 17), the coach was retained.
Neither the above numbers nor the Rivers example mean the Pistons should have kept Frank. Every situation is different. They’re meant only to provide a little context to Frank’s résumé.
Lawrence Frank failed to inspire Pistons
Lawrence Frank likes to tell a joke about his youth basketball experience.
“I was like a bad Hollywood actor,” Frank will say. “I kept hearing ‘cut, cut, cut.’”
It’s easy to feel for Frank. It’s not his fault he was born into a small, unathletic body. His playing career ended early, not because he didn’t work hard enough or didn’t understand the game well enough, but because he lacked the physical skills necessary to compete. That’s unfortunate.
It’s also easy to feel for Frank when it comes to the Pistons teams he coached. It’s not his fault he had an abbreviated training camp before his first season, coached five rookies this year and had his second season interrupted by a trade that sent away Detroit’s top wing player and unbalanced the roster. His Pistons tenure ended early, not because he didn’t work hard enough or didn’t understand the game well enough, but because he lacked the players necessary to win big. That’s unfortunate.
But regardless of his excuses, justified or not, Frank once again failed to inspire the decision maker in charge of his future. And now Frank is cut once again, fired from what very well could be his last NBA head-coaching job.
Remedying a bigger flaw, developing a smaller one
Frank’s failure to inspire didn’t start with his ultimatum to Tom Gores. Despite his confidence at his opening press conference – “I look forward to working with you guys over the next several years” – Frank didn’t deliver on any grand goals.
Under Frank, the Pistons never looked like a team that believed it could accomplish big things. His teams have consistently succumbed under pressure, and in a very telling stat, the Pistons were 0-15 this season at Western Conference teams.
Winning during road trips is difficult. Unless the team believes it can win, it’s easy to fall to the temptations and traps of what can be a vacation.
To be fair, Frank missed four of those road games while tending to his ill wife. But in the games at Western Conference teams he coached, the Pistons were 0-11 and lost by more than 13 points per game.
In hindsight, the Pistons’ third game of the season, at the Lakers, was a particular letdown. We now know the Lakers were much more beatable than it appeared at the time, and a confident Pistons team could have competed with them. Instead, Detroit lost by 29 while playing like the Lakers were the unstoppable juggernaut most expected them to be.
Before the Pistons hired Frank, Charlie Villanueva said he wanted a coach who “played the game.” That wasn’t really Frank, and although that shouldn’t disqualify Frank or other similar coaches from landing top jobs, the perception probably hurt him, and I suspect that’s a big reason he failed to inspire.
In context of recent coaching firings, Frank’s problems are relatively minor. Frank halted the more serious problems that plagued the team under John Kuester and Michael Curry. The Pistons’ internal strife was limited, at least to the degree it spilled into the public.
Kuester and Curry failed to inspire the team, too. But their players responded by rebelling. Frank’s players responded by not playing up to their potential. That’s a big difference, but not one large enough to justify the Pistons keeping Frank.
The Andre Drummond issue
Even though Frank wasn’t an expert motivator, that didn’t mean he was doomed to failure. Every coach has flaws, and Frank had at least a chance to overcome his. But Frank didn’t properly deploy his biggest inspirational weapon:
Drummond was a revelation this season, a 19-year-old center with once-in-a-generation athleticism who might already be the Pistons’ best player. But he played just more than 20 minutes per game, eighth on the team, and spent most of the season backing up lackluster Jason Maxiell.
Many disagree about the importance of NBA coaches, but even those who think coaches are limited believe allocating playing time is important to a team’s success. In this regard, Frank failed brilliantly due to his use – or non-use – of Drummond alone.
Greg Monroe posted a better net rating (team’s offensive rating minus defensive rating when on the court) when he played with Drummond. So did Brandon Knight, Kyle Singler, Rodney Stuckey, Jason Maxiell, Tayshaun Prince, Will Bynum and Charlie Villanueva.
This wasn’t a matter of Frank having to wildly compromise his values and adjust his rotations to play Drummond more. The Pistons performed better when Drummond played with each of the team’s eight most-used players. There wasn’t a bad combination in the mix.
Drummond being good obviously makes a difference, but it was more than that. Players surely wanted to play with someone who has Drummond’s youthful energy, someone whose ability to find dunk opportunities creates open look for them, someone whose athleticism can cover their defensive mistakes.
Simply, Drummond inspired – but Frank never took advantage, and that might be the biggest reason he won’t see a third season in Detroit.
The inspiration gap
When Frank was hired, I wrote:
To start, the roster is still a mess – too many shooting guards, not enough interior players, too many players who could use major minutes, not enough players who necessitate major minutes. That’s probably a multi-year fix, and I won’t lambaste Frank for flaws he inherits with this team. I hope, and think, the Pistons won’t, either.
But Frank must help the players progress. Nearly every Piston could reasonably be expected to play better than he has the last year or two. For the players to improve under Frank, he must first get them to buy in.
Frank is gone, because he didn’t inspire the players to progress. But, despite a mid-season trade that improved the Pistons’ outlook, the roster is still somewhat a mess. With significant cap space and a lottery pick at their the disposal, the Pistons will have an opportunity to fix it.
They’ll also haven an opportunity to upgrade their coach. But whether or not Joe Dumars is retained, do you trust this management team to pick the right one, especially considering Tom Gores preferred Frank when Dumars wanted Woodson?
Gores said he’s willing to spend, and now is the time to show it. Bill Laimbeer, Patrick Ewing or Kelvin Sampson – who each interviewed for the job when it was last open – might be the best replacement for Frank. But if the pool of candidates is that small again, the Pistons are too likely to repeat previous mistakes. If one of those three beats out coaches who will command more money like Stan Van Gundy, Jeff Van Gundy and Nat McMillan, that would help establish their worthiness. The field must be larger this time, and that will require Gores to not only be willing to pay Frank $4 million next season, but his next coach more than that.
Frankly, I’m not impressed with the Pistons for simply firing Frank. Gores gave a too-soon declaration the Pistons “better” make the playoffs, and Frank is paying the price. Frank was the wrong coach for the job, and considering what the Pistons knew, he deserved to be fired. But I’m not sure there was a right coach for the job given the top’s instance on winning now despite having a substandard roster.
Gores, and maybe Dumars, will have a chance to hire another coach, though I’m not certain they’ll tab the right one. If they don’t upgrade the roster or change the impatient culture of the organization, they definitely won’t.
Frank is gone. I’m still uninspired.
Joe Dumars announces firing of Lawrence Frank, and the source might matter
Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated:
GM Joe Dumars: "We thank Lawrence for his hard work and dedication, but we feel it is in the best interest of franchise to make a change."
These official releases rarely contain anything beyond boilerplate, but I think the fact this one comes from Joe Dumars matters. Dumars’ fate still hasn’t been publically announced by Tom Gores, but if Dumars is announcing Frank’s firing, I think that’s a strong sign Dumars will be retained. Otherwise, I’d guess the information would have been attributed to the organization rather than Dumars.
