Comments for PistonPowered http://www.pistonpowered.com Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Fri, 24 May 2013 23:15:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by Sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151116 Sop Fri, 24 May 2013 23:15:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151116 Everyone's talking about the lack of passing but nobody is mentioning his poor defense. Is that something the coach told the star that he can relax on so that he could focus on scoring or simply an inability to focus on that end of the floor. Seeing as this is also a major issue for Stuckey and Knight it is another serious strike against him. Everyone’s talking about the lack of passing but nobody is mentioning his poor defense. Is that something the coach told the star that he can relax on so that he could focus on scoring or simply an inability to focus on that end of the floor. Seeing as this is also a major issue for Stuckey and Knight it is another serious strike against him.

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by Sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151114 Sop Fri, 24 May 2013 23:10:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151114 You forget that Lillard averaged significantly more assists than McCollum and in general played a lot more like a point. You forget that Lillard averaged significantly more assists than McCollum and in general played a lot more like a point.

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by The Rake http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151112 The Rake Fri, 24 May 2013 22:38:51 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151112 I don't entirely disagree, but that also doesn't mean that McCollum won't succeed either. I don't want to be unfair to the kid, but I would rather focus on what our team needs. In general, I agree with the notion that having defined roles helps a bit more, given the way our roster currently reads. I mean Charlie V is a combo also, part stretch 4, part pillow. So there. I don’t entirely disagree, but that also doesn’t mean that McCollum won’t succeed either. I don’t want to be unfair to the kid, but I would rather focus on what our team needs. In general, I agree with the notion that having defined roles helps a bit more, given the way our roster currently reads. I mean Charlie V is a combo also, part stretch 4, part pillow. So there.

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by The Rake http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151111 The Rake Fri, 24 May 2013 22:35:10 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151111 I'll not really get involved in the Zeke argument. He is the definition of a PG. Just because he could shoot  and play off the ball on the very rare occasion, means little. I agree much more with G's "definition" of a combo guard, though I wouldn't define it by stats, I'd define it by playing style. Zeke is one of the greatest PG of all time, I don't believe he's ever been referred to as a combo guard ever before I read it here today. Have fun with that argument though, I'm more focused on McCollum per this discussion and the roles of guys like BK and Stuckey. Chauncey BTW is a PG, not a combo guard. Just because he plays the 2 on occasion with CP3 in LA doesnt make him a 2, he's a PG, regardless that he never put up big assist numbers. I;m not name calling or anything like that, as far as I'm concerned, this is a Pistons site and we all should for the most part be looking in the same direction. Its not an OSU/Michigan combo site....ugh, that hurt to even write. Peace. I’ll not really get involved in the Zeke argument. He is the definition of a PG. Just because he could shoot  and play off the ball on the very rare occasion, means little. I agree much more with G’s “definition” of a combo guard, though I wouldn’t define it by stats, I’d define it by playing style. Zeke is one of the greatest PG of all time, I don’t believe he’s ever been referred to as a combo guard ever before I read it here today. Have fun with that argument though, I’m more focused on McCollum per this discussion and the roles of guys like BK and Stuckey. Chauncey BTW is a PG, not a combo guard. Just because he plays the 2 on occasion with CP3 in LA doesnt make him a 2, he’s a PG, regardless that he never put up big assist numbers. I;m not name calling or anything like that, as far as I’m concerned, this is a Pistons site and we all should for the most part be looking in the same direction. Its not an OSU/Michigan combo site….ugh, that hurt to even write. Peace.

]]> Comment on Joe Dumars prefers Nate McMillan or Maurice Cheeks; Phil Jackson prefers Brian Shaw by acr http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/joe-dumars-prefers-nate-mcmillan-or-maurice-cheeks-phil-jackson-prefers-brian-shaw/comment-page-1/#comment-151110 acr Fri, 24 May 2013 22:33:21 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13767#comment-151110 I know that you live (or lived) in the Pacific Northwest, and I don't claim to know more about Portland basketball than you do, but did you ever consider that it was Cheeks' first coaching gig and that perhaps he's learned a thing or two in the last 10 years as a head and assistant coach?  There are few coaches who would have had success if they were put in that position with those personalities on that Portland team. Blaming Cheeks for the downfall of the organization and then arguing that it was then "cleaned up" by McMillan totally omits the role of management in acquiring those players before Cheeks and then getting rid of them as McMillan took over.  I'm not saying that Cheeks is perfect, but your totally dismissing him for something that happened nearly 10 years ago in his first head coaching job.   I also didn't say anything about Shaw in my post, so I guess you were just using the space to vent or something.  I know that you live (or lived) in the Pacific Northwest, and I don’t claim to know more about Portland basketball than you do, but did you ever consider that it was Cheeks’ first coaching gig and that perhaps he’s learned a thing or two in the last 10 years as a head and assistant coach?  There are few coaches who would have had success if they were put in that position with those personalities on that Portland team. Blaming Cheeks for the downfall of the organization and then arguing that it was then “cleaned up” by McMillan totally omits the role of management in acquiring those players before Cheeks and then getting rid of them as McMillan took over.  I’m not saying that Cheeks is perfect, but your totally dismissing him for something that happened nearly 10 years ago in his first head coaching job.  

I also didn’t say anything about Shaw in my post, so I guess you were just using the space to vent or something. 

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by The Rake http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151109 The Rake Fri, 24 May 2013 22:28:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151109 I certainly don't disregard what you mention. That being said, nearly EVERY draft site is comparing this guy to Steph. I also read an extreme low end would be Eric Maynor (who just a year or two ago on this very site people were clamoring for, rightly or not). My biggest gripe with McCollum, admittedly just going off of what I've read, is that he lacks ideal size and is a combo guard essentially who (even he admits) has never really played a PG. His interview, he said, "if a team is looking to draft a true PG, then they won't take me, but if they want a guy who can shoot and play multiple positions, I can do that."  I'm paraphrasing since I don't have the quote in front of me, but that is essentially what he wrote.  I don't honestly know, it really depends on who is there/what options we have when our pick comes around. Nothing is out of the question really IMO, we need help everywhere, particularly at the 1,2 and 3 in defined roles, IMO. We'll see. I certainly don’t disregard what you mention. That being said, nearly EVERY draft site is comparing this guy to Steph. I also read an extreme low end would be Eric Maynor (who just a year or two ago on this very site people were clamoring for, rightly or not). My biggest gripe with McCollum, admittedly just going off of what I’ve read, is that he lacks ideal size and is a combo guard essentially who (even he admits) has never really played a PG. His interview, he said, “if a team is looking to draft a true PG, then they won’t take me, but if they want a guy who can shoot and play multiple positions, I can do that.”  I’m paraphrasing since I don’t have the quote in front of me, but that is essentially what he wrote. 
I don’t honestly know, it really depends on who is there/what options we have when our pick comes around. Nothing is out of the question really IMO, we need help everywhere, particularly at the 1,2 and 3 in defined roles, IMO. We’ll see.

]]> Comment on Hoping for Anthony Bennett, debating Shabazz Muhammad/Kentavious Caldwell-Pope by I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/hoping-for-anthony-bennett-debating-shabazz-muhammadkentavious-caldwell-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-151106 I HATE FRANK Fri, 24 May 2013 22:10:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13797#comment-151106 Greg And Stuckey to Portkand for Wesley Matthew and the 10 pick   Greg And Stuckey to Portkand for Wesley Matthew and the 10 pick
 

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151105 I HATE FRANK Fri, 24 May 2013 22:07:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151105 way ahead? you guys get way too much caught up way ahead? you guys get way too much caught up

]]> Comment on C.J. McCollum to Pistons in DraftExpress/Yahoo mock draft by frankie d http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/c-j-mccollum-to-pistons-in-draftexpressyahoo-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-151104 frankie d Fri, 24 May 2013 21:48:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13784#comment-151104 not true.  vinnie always played the same combo guard role with zeke.  it certainly became more pronounced once dumars came on board, but vinnie always averaged solid assist numbers and always played on and off the ball.  lots of times when vinnie was hot, he'd just bring the ball down court, look over the scene and rise and fire.  or maybe dish a dime. i have a bunch of old vcr tapes with old pistons games and i love watching some of those old games. vinnie was always vinnie, the same player, year in and year out. when dumars came on, it gave the team 3 guys who could do what vinnie and zeke were doing, just an incredible trio and very very tough to defend. but simply scoring is not the issue. when  you shoot more than anyone and you score more than anyone on your team, you are a scorer, and you get assists, which is what zeke did.   that is just the reality. "true" points like that always defer to the other guys on their teams first, and then score.   steve nash, imho, is really the only true PG of the last decade or so.  almost everyone else is really a combo guard.  (at least most of the really good ones on good teams. isiah was the opposite.  he scored and then he also looked to feed guys. and i've always looked at parker as one of the post-isiah combo guards who score and pass. again, zeke ushered in a new era of PGs who did both.   tony parker and chris paul are direct descendants of isiah.  along with a guy like AI.  without isiah, those guys probably would have never played the game the way they play it.  not true.  vinnie always played the same combo guard role with zeke.  it certainly became more pronounced once dumars came on board, but vinnie always averaged solid assist numbers and always played on and off the ball.  lots of times when vinnie was hot, he’d just bring the ball down court, look over the scene and rise and fire.  or maybe dish a dime.
i have a bunch of old vcr tapes with old pistons games and i love watching some of those old games.
vinnie was always vinnie, the same player, year in and year out.
when dumars came on, it gave the team 3 guys who could do what vinnie and zeke were doing, just an incredible trio and very very tough to defend.
but simply scoring is not the issue.
when  you shoot more than anyone and you score more than anyone on your team, you are a scorer, and you get assists, which is what zeke did.  
that is just the reality.
“true” points like that always defer to the other guys on their teams first, and then score.  
steve nash, imho, is really the only true PG of the last decade or so.  almost everyone else is really a combo guard.  (at least most of the really good ones on good teams.
isiah was the opposite.  he scored and then he also looked to feed guys.
and i’ve always looked at parker as one of the post-isiah combo guards who score and pass.
again, zeke ushered in a new era of PGs who did both.  
tony parker and chris paul are direct descendants of isiah.  along with a guy like AI.  without isiah, those guys probably would have never played the game the way they play it. 

]]> Comment on Pistons prefer to draft perimeter player by G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/05/pistons-prefer-to-draft-perimeter-player/comment-page-1/#comment-151102 G Fri, 24 May 2013 21:45:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=13791#comment-151102 *zero good starters at guard, should have said *zero good starters at guard, should have said

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