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Dismal loss to Bobcats puts Pistons closer to The Disaster Zone

Charlotte Bobcats 108 Final
Recap | Box Score
96 Detroit Pistons
Greg Monroe, PF Shot Chart 37 MIN | 8-16 FG | 2-4 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 18 PTS | -10

Monroe used both his strength and craftiness to score inside, but he was at his best when relying more on the former. Josh McRoberts (3-for-5 on all 3-point attempts) was a tough cover for Monroe. Monroe also spent time on Al Jefferson (32 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists), but Jefferson is just too good for any Piston.

Josh Smith, SF Shot Chart 37 MIN | 5-17 FG | 2-6 FT | 11 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 12 PTS | -15

Smith shot 0-for-6 outside the paint, sabotaging what would have been merely a solid game otherwise. I believe Tom Gores erred by demanding the Pistons make the playoffs this season, but once tasked with completing that objective and given the money to do so, Joe Dumars really blew it. Jefferson would not have been a great fit in Detroit, but he shows there were better splurging options available.

Kyle Singler, SF Shot Chart 40 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 13 PTS | -6

Singler made his share of very helpful plays, and his off-ball movement is welcome in Detroit’s stagnant offense.

Andre Drummond, C Shot Chart 34 MIN | 8-15 FG | 0-2 FT | 22 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 16 PTS | -10

It’s a shame the Pistons are wasting Drummond’s present. His offense needs more polish, and Jefferson exposed his defensive weaknesses. But Drummond is so strong on the glass, that alone makes him extremely effective on both ends. Tonight’s loss puts the Pistons 1.5 games behind Charlotte for eighth place – the same distance Detroit is ahead of the Cavaliers, who’ve won five straight. The Knicks are just a half game behind Cleveland. The race for the No. 8 seed is getting more crowded, and the Pistons are poorly positioned to emerge on top. In a grander sense, the Pistons are right on track to lose their draft pick to the Bobcats and squander Drummond’s future, too. A win at Charlotte tomorrow won’t be easy, but it’s pivotal in avoiding The Disaster Zone.

Brandon Jennings, PG Shot Chart 39 MIN | 7-18 FG | 8-9 FT | 2 REB | 7 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 24 PTS | -15

Jennings carried a larger offensive load than should be placed on him, but he handled it well. It also helped his offensive cause that he let up defensively.

Jonas Jerebko, PF Shot Chart 6 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -1

Jerebko didn’t play in the second half if that tells you something about his hold on a rotation spot.

Will Bynum, PG Shot Chart 20 MIN | 4-10 FG | 1-2 FT | 0 REB | 6 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | +2

Bynum pushed the pace in the fourth quarter and helped the Pistons cut Charlotte’s lead. Increasing variance is what Bynum does best. His own offense was so-so, and his defense was poor. But his impact on the game spread beyond his obvious individual contributions.

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG Shot Chart 10 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -2

Caldwell-Pope was solid defensively and invisible offensively.

Rodney Stuckey, SG Shot Chart 17 MIN | 1-11 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -3

Stuckey made his first shot and then missed his next 10. Bleh.

John Loyer

Loyer gets creativity points for installing a 3-2 zone, but the Pistons played far too flat in such a pivotal game. Getting the emotional best from this team is a deep challenge for an interim coach, but that’s the request the Pistons doomed themselves to when hiring Maurice Cheeks. Keeping a theme, even if Gores wouldn’t pay enough to hire someone like Lionel Hollins or George Karl, there were far better less-heralded options available. One of them was sitting on the visiting team’s bench tonight. Steve Clifford has the Bobcats prepared and syncing at a level the Pistons haven’t approached in years.

52 Comments

  • Feb 19, 20145:14 am
    by I HATE LOSING (Predicting A Strong Finish)

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    You can win in today’s NBA with this line up, Clearly Dumars has said we can not bench either Greg or Smith….Loyer or any coach is going to struggle….play both either exposes Greg on defense or exposes Smith on offense….and it limits Drummond to just getting his offensive from putback…you then rely on Singler having to Damn near perfect because of no shooting…and Jennings gets hell…but his offense suffers because it forces him to live on the perimeter….not to mention his assist numbers take a hit….Cheek knew this and Loyer know this….but it doesn’t matter, if Pistons are not going to let any coach decide to win 

    • Feb 19, 20142:53 pm
      by oats

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      Yeah, that’s thing about Jennings being forced to play on the perimeter by the lineup is not true. His shot distribution is pretty identical to last year. He is actually shooting better in the paint this year too, yet he’s shooting worse on the perimeter.
       
      For those that want the numbers, here they are. Last year he took 5.9 shots per game in the paint and made .431 of them. This year he is taking 6 shots per game in the paint and making .444 of them. In the mid range outside of the paint and inside the 3 point arc he took 3.9 shots per game last year and made .387 of them. In the mid range this year he is taking 3.9 shots per game and making .337 of them. Last year he took 5.8 shots per game from 3 and made .375 of them. This year he is taking 5.8 shots per game from 3 and making .343 of them.
       
      As for his assist numbers, I’m not buying it. His assists are up this year. I suspect that he’s gaining as much from passing it to Monroe and Smith to let them actually create a shot and give him an easy assist as he loses by not having good shooters flanking him.

  • Feb 19, 20145:17 am
    by @GPMasters

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    Utter despair. It’s come to the point where the season seemingly hinges on tonights game. And for what? After all what value is there is creeping into the playoffs anyway… ARGH

  • Feb 19, 20145:24 am
    by sushi

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    “B” for Moose is not right.
    His lack of defensive efforts, especially at the 2nd half, was cancer for the team.
    Al Jefferson easily got a lot of good positions for his post offense because Moose didn’t try to fight for that.
    He did try to fight after Jefferson got a good position and the ball, but it was too late.
    Moose just had to do a better job before Jefferson gets a good position.
    I like Moose, but also can understand some Pistons fan hate him and calling him “Soft.”
    Especially, after the game like this.

  • Feb 19, 20145:35 am
    by greg

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    please trade either monroe or smith and tank….

  • Feb 19, 20145:40 am
    by I HATE LOSING (Predicting A Strong Finish)

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    Meant can not

  • Feb 19, 20146:26 am
    by Corey

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    If they lose to Charlotte again, it’s time to tank and tank hard. NY and Cleveland will pass them, and probably Boston as well. That would put them at 7. A lot of west teams are only 3-4 wins back and could pass them too, with a seriously tank-tactic last 30 games. 
    This means next year’s draft pick is gone and they MUST make the playoffs, but maybe they’ll hire a real coach in the off-season. Even this roster could be in the playoffs with a good coach.

    • Feb 19, 20147:14 am
      by gmehl

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      I don’t think finishing 7th is impossible. If we stay the course before the deadline and keep the same shitty team then it’s a huge possibility. If we lose 3-4 more games in a row then we are right back in the mix to free fall.

  • Feb 19, 20147:11 am
    by I HATE LOSING (Predicting A Strong Finish)

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    Btw: the part about squandering Drummond future is such a panic button comment….he is 20 we barring injury physically Drummond has 5-6 years before he is in the prime if his career…then who knows what type of player he can become offensively with footwork and increased FT percentage and attempts…. this draft is not a guarantee unless you are in the top 3…all I’m saying is this year my be the final run for Dumars but Drummond has plenty of great basketball to play…so play offs or not calm down

    • Feb 19, 20147:14 am
      by Edgar

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      I think he said we’re squandering his present. Given that he might be the best center in basketball right now if he were on a better team, it is kind of a shame.

      • Feb 19, 20148:05 am
        by I HATE LOSING (Predicting A Strong Finish)

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        He said his future

        • Feb 19, 20148:41 am
          by Huddy

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          It says presents, seems silly to have to write that given it’s on the same page right above.

        • Feb 19, 20148:05 pm
          by G

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          I’d like to point out that it’s impossible to squander anyone’s future unless you have a time machine. You can only squander the present.

        • Feb 19, 20148:06 pm
          by G

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          …and unless Feldman made a correction between now and when you commented, it said/says “present”

      • Feb 19, 20149:37 am
        by MIKEYDE248

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        I like how everyone on here keeps saying that Drummond is the best center in the league right now, but every time he goes up against someone like Dwight Howard, he get’s schooled.  Give him a few years, then maybe you can start saying that.

        • Feb 19, 20149:56 am
          by Edgar

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          I think he could be pretty close if he were playing on a functional team and for a competent coach.

    • Feb 19, 20147:22 am
      by gmehl

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      Hey I’d love them to make the playoffs but to tell you the truth I just want to see them play good, hard, consistent and fluid basketball. Problem is that ain’t happening with the roster as it is. If we can keep our pick then any player we add is an asset that gives options. For example if we could draft Ennis, Smart or my dream pick Exum it would make Jennings expendable on a cheap contract.

      • Feb 19, 20148:09 am
        by I HATE LOSING (Predicting A Strong Finish)

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        Honestly the roster isn’t bad…its just can’t work…Greg is the weak link….through all of Josh Smith offensive short comings….he can impact a game defensively…putting him away from the paint as a defender and as a an offensive player hurts him…once again…Greg will score but defensively he gives it right back….
        We can’t hide him with zone defense either..

        • Feb 19, 20149:41 am
          by MIKEYDE248

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          I guess I don’t see what the difference between Monroe giving it right back defensively or Smith giving it back offensively on a quick outside shot.  I would have to thinkg that kills the team even more.  Not only does it not add points for for the Pistons, but usually leads to a fast break for the other team.

          • Feb 19, 201410:58 am
            by Josh

            Greg has to play D every possession.  Despite how it may seem some games, Josh does not shoot the ball every time down..

          • Feb 19, 20143:03 pm
            by oats

            @ Josh. But even great defenders get scored on quite a bit. That’s just the nature of basketball. So the equation would be points Monroe gives up defensively but Smith wouldn’t compared to points Smith gives up with poor offense that Monroe wouldn’t. That’s a bit more difficult to figure out.

          • Feb 19, 20143:08 pm
            by jerrific

            Your argument works both ways,  Greg’s assignment doesn’t shoot the ball every time either. His defense is bad yes, but the league is filled with good defensive teams that have negative defenders (Boozer and Chicago, Randolph and Memphis.) This teams problems don’t start and end with any one player.  They have everything to do with fit, total team effort,  and coaching schemes, as well as a lack of talent at the two.  

  • Feb 19, 20147:16 am
    by Edgar

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    I’m actually getting used to the idea of giving away our pick and landing in the Disaster Zone. It might be better to just swallow our medicine and give a #10 pick or whatever away this year, rather than get worse next year (which is a possibility) and give away a higher pick to CHA since next year’s pick is only top-1 protected.

    • Feb 19, 20143:18 pm
      by oats

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      The Pistons have a summer to fix some problems with the roster, they will not have Cheeks for the first 50 games of the season, and they have $10 million to spend in cap room even if they make no other moves and keep Monroe. Admittedly that $10 million requires losing Stuckey, but it should be easy to at least spend it on someone that fits the roster a bit better. I get that the East should be a bit more competent next year, but it would take some serious incompetence to end up giving away a higher pick next year than the 9-12 range they will be in if they land in that Disaster Zone this season. This year’s draft looks to be more talented than the one next year, so next year’s pick would likely need to be a few picks higher to have equal value. That could change if a few guys decide to stay in school, but it’s hard to make that prediction this far out. Anyways, things would have go very wrong for it to be better to send away a pick in that 9-12 range this year than whatever happens next year and I’d rather the team not bank on further incompetence.

      • Feb 19, 20143:57 pm
        by Edgar

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        You’re probably right. I’m just seeing a few problems for next year:
        1. Hiring a competent GM/coach. It might be tough to attract given that there will probably be a few openings. 2. Attracting quality FAs. I don’t know if there’s anyone out there we can afford that really moves the needle. It doesn’t seem like that good of a class anyway. 3. Injuries. We’ve been really lucky on that score so far this year. If we had gotten a wave of them early on, we might have fallen into an early hole.
        If the team stays as constituted and we can’t get a competent coach and don’t have a first round pick and have bad injury luck next year, I could totally see us getting a top-five pick that we’d then have to send to CHA. Which would be just the best. Anyway, what do you think?

        • Feb 19, 20143:58 pm
          by Edgar

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          Of course all that could change if we keep our pick this year and have some luck in the lottery.

        • Feb 19, 20146:38 pm
          by oats

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          1) There are more smart guys in need of a job than there are jobs to go around. It can be tricky to find the right guy, but I don’t buy that the pool of GM/Coach candidates is all that thin. Detroit’s also not a bad place to take a GM’s gig. There is a championship pedigree, something not many teams can claim, and a young building block in Drummond. That largely applies to coaches too, and if Dumars is canned then his reputation for having a short leash with coaches wouldn’t limit the options either.
           
          Don’t get me wrong, it could go wrong still. I’m just unconvinced that will be that big of a deal when it comes to figuring out how many wins Detroit will have next year. Even a mediocre coach is better than Cheeks, so it should be really easy to upgrade in coaching. Upgrading on Dumars could be hard to do, but doing better than the job he’s done lately shouldn’t be. Heck, just having a guy that will dump the goofy 3 big thing and bring in some shooters probably goes a long ways to fixing things.
           
          2) Again, this shouldn’t be too hard to upgrade things since it probably just takes a better fit. The marquee names would be Stephenson, Hayward, and Deng, but I don’t know if Detroit could actually land one of them. Yet just getting a jump shooter or two would go a long ways to fixing the problem. Failing the big names there is also the second tier of Jodie Meeks and Trevor Ariza. There are also a few options for young guys that have shown some potential in Jordan Hamilton, Wesley Johnson, and Jimmer Fredette. Behind that group are a few veterans in Francisco Garcia, Caron Butler, and Anthony Morrow. There is also the option of taking a shot on Danny Granger getting back to health. Not all of those are exactly great options, but Detroit is so lacking in outside shooting that even a couple of the more mediocre players would likely help steady things. That’s all assuming the money is used on a free agent and the team doesn’t just absorb a contract.
           
          3) An injury to one of the guards would be bad. An injury to any of the big 3 likely would make the front court rotation make more sense, and there is a decent chance that alone would actually help the team. Admittedly that wouldn’t hold up if one of those bigs gets moved, but that still isn’t a terrible thing to overcome. It’s also not like Detroit’s health has been all that remarkable. Stuckey missed 8 games, Jennings another 2, and Bynum has missed 14. Again, Detroit’s depth problem is at guard, so even a guy playing only 18 minutes a game like Bynum is a noteworthy injury.
           
          4) It wouldn’t take luck in the lottery to help the team. The Pistons should at least get something to help shore up the lack of depth on the perimeter. Someone like Ennis, Harris, Smart, or even McDermott could help out a lot.
          5) I’d agree that things could go drastically wrong and the team could get worse. Still, it seems like the odds of them getting significantly worse are pretty small since I really don’t think it takes a whole lot to improve things.

  • Feb 19, 20148:19 am
    by Vic

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    season is over. 
     

  • Feb 19, 20148:31 am
    by Rich

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    This isn’t why we lost, but KCP put up a 10 trillion!  That’s gotta be a record, or at least close to one.  10 minutes without a single tick in the box score…

    • Feb 19, 20141:36 pm
      by MrBlockedShot

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      Wow, you’re right. He’s our 10 trillion man. However, that performance gave him a C so…something is going wrong here when you can’t even make the minimum impact on the boxscore in 10 minutes (yes, not even a foul or a missed shot)and not get an F. KCP has not hit the rookie wall..I think he has the Great Wall of China to climb to. Want to develop him? give him 10-15 shots per game and you will know if he’s of use or not. The guy can defend decently most of the nights, but can he do anything else? What scares me most regarding his condition, is his innability to produce statistically for his possition on the court. He barely produces other than a few points the most of the times…no steals, no rebounds, no assists…

      • Feb 19, 20141:53 pm
        by Huddy

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        I feel like KCP is being hidden because the team is trying to focus on proven players and win now.  It might be that KCP isn’t stepping up, but like you said until we see what he can do with some offense being focused on him it is hard to tell what is going on with him.

      • Feb 19, 20143:12 pm
        by jerrific

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        Huddy is right. KCP isn’t the type of player to create his own offense. It’s not his fault that the gameplan ignores his existence, and he plays good defense. Hence the C, despite having no statistical impact.  

        • Feb 19, 20146:25 pm
          by spectorw

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          Here the deal, before Feb 1st, KCP game was on the upswing. His last impactful game against the 76ers, he and Singler was contributing to the Piston’s efforts in a win. Now 20 days later he not even contributing sub. His zero, zero, zero was a product of the rest of the team NOT involving him. He did not touch the ball nor his teammates was looking for him. Here another fact, since the Cheeks decided to switch defense (KCP) for offense (Singler) the Pistons point production drop around 10 pts per game. In that time (after Feb 1st), Singler is averaging around 40 min per start and he’s averaging around 12 pts per game. That point production was the same as he were coming off the bench while KCP is still trying to find his groove. All I’m saying that Singler is getting the same treatment as KCP when he started. Not enough touches to see if he can be effective.
          That was not the change we were looking for…

        • Feb 19, 20148:11 pm
          by G

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          KCP disappeared because he’s a rookie and doesn’t always know how to assert himself. Most rookies run into that from time to time. I think he’ll turn into a decent pro, but I think Burke will be one of the top 5 guys out of that draft when we look back on it in 5 years. I think that pick belongs on Joe’s list of screw-ups behind the Darko pick and the Billups trade but ahead of the Gordon/Charlie V signings.

  • Feb 19, 201410:21 am
    by Brian

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    The lack of hustle I saw was disturbing. A home game, a beatable opponent standing in the way of your bid for a playoff berth, plenty of rest – and this is the effort the Pistons can muster? If Joe Dumars or Tom Gores thinks that the current lineup is acceptable without significant changes, then we are officially in tank mode.

  • Feb 19, 201410:36 am
    by jamesjones_det

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    What’s the definition of insanity again?  I think they entire Pistons organization needs to submit itself to an IQ test.

  • Feb 19, 201410:55 am
    by pistons moribund

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    Bullwinkle was awful defensively and has only one way to score.  Drive left, drive right.  All the other team has to do is post Bullwinkle.  Disaster on the horizon and all b/c Gores is an idiot.  Make the postseason ultimatum.  Two bad owners in a row.

  • Feb 19, 201411:05 am
    by JYD for Life

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=luztt2b 
    Would you do it for one year of Rondo?  I wouldn’t.  
    Pistons would most likely have to give up a future 1st too.  
    A Jennings/Rondo backcourt is small, but interesting…Not sure there’s enough range, but Jennings and Green can hit 3s.  
    Wallace has a HORRIBLE contract, so outside of letting Rondo walk or finding someone to take Jennings…this is it for two years.  
     
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lzgjqau  
    This one won’t happen, but you would be cleaning their cap situation up and making ours a mess…but bringing Jennings off the bench to chuck wouldn’t be terrible.  Also would have to give up a future 1st to them. 
     

  • Feb 19, 201412:39 pm
    by sebastian

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    OUR Pistons may as well cancel Christmas. This season is over!

  • Feb 19, 201412:52 pm
    by freeparty

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    How does Dre get an A- when his man treated him like a child by putting up 35-12-7?  Monroe has to go, and I finally agree Joe D is incompetent when it comes to talent evaluation.
     
    This basketball is hard to watch.

  • Feb 19, 20141:14 pm
    by Anthony J.

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    There are reports that the clippers and knicks are discussing a collison for shumpert type deal. I for one wouldnt mind giving the knicks a call for shumpert. I love the kids game. Maybe a Stuckey and bYnum for shumpert and felton may work. I would love shump on this team because he brings good defense and even though he is more of a s, slasher, he gives us decent 3 point shooting. He also gives loyer a roster that he can maneuver around. 
     
    A starting lineup of Jennings, shumpert, smith, and drummond and monroe then when one of the bigs sit we can bring in kcp and move shump to sf for defense and if we need a boost in offense then we can mix and match between shump, kcp and singler. The only downfall to this trade is having jennings poor defense in the starting lineup and feltons terrible defense backing him up.
    What do u guys think? At the end of the daim just desperate for a new look. 

    • Feb 19, 20141:15 pm
      by Anthony J.

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      O god idk what daim is lol. I meant day I’m*

    • Feb 19, 20141:51 pm
      by Huddy

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      Why would the Knicks want to get worse at PG and move a young prospect in Shumpert for Stuckey and Bynum? 

  • Feb 19, 20141:52 pm
    by Eric

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    I just wanted to say thank you for this blog. I grew up watching the Pistons through the 2000s, but live in Missouri now so I don’t get FSDetroit. This is my go to place for Piston news and the articles are always a joy to read. It makes me cringe seeing some of the bm on this board. Please keep up the great work!

  • Feb 19, 20142:12 pm
    by Mrdumas

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    If we let the trade deadline past without making a move we are in tank mode ..no doubt about that …how can joe D or toM gores watch a game and not be disgusted at the performance this team has put up …

  • Feb 19, 20142:33 pm
    by jamesjones_det

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    Monroe to GS for Barnes, Oneal and their first rounder.  Just do it, it gives you a SF for the future and gives you cap space to fix this crap in the off season.  Sounds like GS would be open to it.
     
    It’s time to look at blowing this crap up, might as well start with this trade.

    • Feb 19, 20143:47 pm
      by oats

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      I’ve been reading a lot of reports that say that Golden State would very much not be open to that because they seem to be asking for a ton for Barnes. Plus Monroe’s not a great fit on a team that already has Bogut and Lee on large salaries, especially one that lives on floor spacing like Golden State. I don’t see how he makes that much sense on the court, and his next contract would put them into luxury tax hell for the next 2 years, and then they would have to pay Thompson and stay in it for a 3rd year. Then it’s time to give Curry a pay raise, so in year 4 of Monroe’s deal they still have no real flexibility. I can’t see them doing that. Maybe if they unloaded Lee they might consider it, but Lee is still a better player than Monroe so it would just be about getting younger to extend their window somewhat. Still not likely, but vaguely plausible.
       
      As for Detroit, well, Barnes isn’t that good. He’s playing worse than Singler this year. He was a very average rookie who heated up for a few high profile games playing as a small ball 4 and then got worse in his second year. What part of that makes people think he could be a good starting SF? I’d say the evidence strongly suggests that he is a pretty average SF prospect and the playoffs were an anomaly. I guess there is some reason to hope he might just be out of position at SF and he is really a small ball PF, but I don’t see how that helps Detroit much. On top of all that, Golden State already traded away their pick to Utah, not that a pick in the late 20s is all that appealing anyways.

      • Feb 19, 20147:54 pm
        by frankie d

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        Oats is exactly right about barnes.  Seems like people are still mesmerized by his high school press clippings and have weirdly forgotten how he has been less than scintilatting ever since.
        He looks like an average player who is capable of streaks of very good production because of his talent. Imho, he would be someone you would always be looking to upgrade.

        • Feb 19, 20149:32 pm
          by jamesjones_det

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          Yep your right, we should just stick with the squad we have, tie up caps space while losing our pick…  I guess if you don’t mind a 30 win team next year that plan should work out just fine.
           
          Doing a trade like this gives you some flexibility to correct some of Joe’s mistakes in the off season, your not going to get anything better than that for anyone on this squad outside of Drummond and standing pat might as well say we don’t plan on doing much else next year because who is going to trade for any player we have unless your willing to part with Dre?  And let’s be honest this team is not going to tank, they haven’t done any of the years prior they are not going to do it this year.

          • Feb 20, 20141:01 am
            by oats

            First of all, this isn’t the only potential trade that could possibly happen so those are not the only options for Detroit. Secondly, Monroe should be worth more than a guy playing worse ball than Kyle Singler. If that is seriously the best they can do for him then Monroe isn’t the guy who should be moved. Trade Smith for any short term contract and try again in free agency. That also creates flexibility without giving up on a young big man that has already played at close to an All Star level in his career for someone who just isn’t that good.

  • Feb 19, 20144:31 pm
    by tom

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    I don’t understand how we could possibly not make a trade. We have some talented players who clearly do not fit together. If we’re trying to win now Joe has to do something to at least improve that situation. If we’re going to tank then at least move Stuckey for something and all of a sudden we have no scoring off the bench, so losing should take care of itself and hopefully we get something of value in return. I have long been a Joe D apologist, but if he doesn’t do anything now he will officially lose me. 

  • Feb 19, 20147:38 pm
    by James

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    Perhaps, just perhaps the value for the players on this team outside of Drummond is not attractive to any other team in the league. Think about it, how many of Dumars draft picks since 2000 were used in a decent trade, period? Face it, this team lost and is still losing to a better team tonight, THE BOBCATS!

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