"Worst team in the league," Smith said, shaking his head.
Jan 23, 2014 • 11:21 amby Craig
Did he say this while staring at himself in the mirror?
Jan 23, 2014 • 12:00 pmby Smitty
Talking about the Pistons right?
Jan 23, 2014 • 12:44 pmby james
Code speak for TRADE MY ASS!! Similar to Prince Fielder, he wants out, plain and simple.
Jan 23, 2014 • 12:50 pmby Smitty
I’d be fine trading him and Stuckey. Jennings too, but who wants him?
Jan 23, 2014 • 12:57 pmby james
And therein lies the problem. Dumars will not find any trade partners for anyone he wants to unload for anything decent. Unless you are Miami, Indiana, San Antonio or Oklahoma, no amount of trades will beat either of those teams this year, and probably not next year either. With 39 games left, its a wrap, teams will just ride this season out. Again, no-one offered Smith or Jennings a contract at all, why in the hell would someone trade for them now.
Jan 23, 2014 • 12:58 pmby Smitty
At this point i’d be down to swap Smith for Gordon. Gordon has one less year on his contract.
Jan 23, 2014 • 6:58 pmby oats
For a second I thought you meant Ben Gordon, whose deal is expiring. There’s a zero percent chance of that happening of course. That would mean that Dumars gave away a first round pick to dump Gordon and get money for a free agent this past summer, only to whiff on that signing so badly that he takes Gordon back. The end result would be that he gave away a pick to let Gordon play for Charlotte for a year and a half. The fact that I’d probably do that feels like the best argument for firing Dumars ever.
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:14 pmby Vic
Pelicans need a big and want to get rid of Gordon.
Smith for Gordon?
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:19 pmby James
Hmmm, and that’s what its come too huh? That’s just an awful referendum on Joe. And even if he fires Cheeks today, what coach worth his salt would want to work for Joe and ruin their career? Hollins, Karl(whom I deeply dislike), no one will work for him. Its quite simple, he has to go.
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:33 pmby BK
Do you guys not see the issue? Jennings is fine, 8.5 assists a game. PG spot is set. KCP and Stuckey are perfect for our SG spot. Here’s our problem.. Smith is not a SF. If you trade Monroe for a true shooting SF like a batum or Korver play style SF, and put smith at the PF (which he is extremely comfortable at and I’d assume at least 18 a game from him) with Drummond at Center. That’s all we need, Monroe gone for a true SF.
Ignore the the lines through the text this blog was acting weird lol.
Jan 24, 2014 • 12:34 pmby LT
why do you prefer Smith over Monroe?
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:38 pmby Smitty
I seen that Boston wants to get ride of Green. Green and Bass for Smith works.
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:40 pmby James
I would take that trade in a NEW YORK MINUTE!
Jan 23, 2014 • 1:41 pmby James
Only if you include Monroe instead of Smith
Why do you prefer Smith over Monroe?
Jan 23, 2014 • 2:59 pmby TDP
Rather than saying the Pistons are the worst, I feel like he was expressing contrition for losing to the “worst team in the league.”
With that said, Joss Smiff sucks.
Jan 23, 2014 • 3:01 pmby frankie d
What is truly amazing is the shortsightedness of pistons’ fans. The fact thst they would advocate trading one of the league’s best young bigs to accomodate a player like smith is just mindboggling.
Smith is who he is…after 10 years and he is not going to change. The idea that he will magically be transformed when monroe is traded is so illogical…words cannot describe it.
Jan 23, 2014 • 5:20 pmby Tim Thielke
I think those advocating for a trade of Monroe are hoping that Smith reverts to being the player he was in Atlanta. That obviously wouldn’t be a guarantee. But it’s not an unreasonable thing to expect.
Jan 23, 2014 • 7:10 pmby oats
It does require you to ignore the fact that Smith’s shooting percentages at PF have been pretty much identical to what he’s done at SF. According to 82games.com he goes from an effective field goal percentage of .428 at SF to .454 at PF, and both of those are pretty terrible. I will concede that he’s still a good defender at PF, and playing him there more would definitely help. I suspect he’ll continue being a bad offensive player until he admits to himself that he has no business shooting on the perimeter though. That would be the complete opposite of what he tells people who ask him about his bad shooting performances.
Jan 24, 2014 • 9:29 amby tommy t
I don’t want to Atlanta Smith either
Jan 24, 2014 • 9:30 amby tommy t
that’s what i get for trying to eat and type. I don’t want the Atlanta Smith either
Jan 24, 2014 • 9:31 amby tommy t
That’s what i get for trying to eat and type. I don’t want the Atlanta Smith either.
Jan 25, 2014 • 12:00 pmby frankie d
agreed. the atlanta smith was bad enough that his hometown team, the team that drafted him and paid him for 9 years, let him walk away, preferring the cap space instead.
and they turned around and signed a guy to replace him – a guy who is a superior player, though not as spectactular – for a heckuva lot less money.
Jan 23, 2014 • 7:27 pmby oats
@ frankie d. Smith is still a good enough defender at the 4 to be a net positive for the team. The reason to trade Monroe would be that he actually has some trade value while Smith doesn’t. I wouldn’t trade him just to trade him, but if he can actually fetch a good young player that fits on the team then Detroit should jump on it. That makes a lot more sense than just salary dumping Smith. Then again, if a good trade doesn’t come around for Monroe then I would look to dump Smith.
Jan 23, 2014 • 4:04 pmby Rocketsfan123
What about a Monroe for Hayward swap?
Jan 23, 2014 • 4:16 pmby Corey
i’m ok with trading Monroe- if they get someone like Harrison Barnes or kawhi Leonard. Trading him for junk would be crazy.
i know! Maybe we should give someone a lottery pick to take Smith off our hands.
Jan 23, 2014 • 7:38 pmby oats
Why do people like Harrison Barnes so much? I don’t get it. He’s got per 36 numbers of 13 points and 5 rebounds, and on top of that he’s got a true shooting percentage of .508. Kyle Singler has per 36 numbers of 13 points and 5 rebounds, but with a true shooting percentage of .573. I get that Barnes is a better 3 point shooter and might be a bit better defendsively, and part of the reason for his limited production is that his team has plenty of other scoring options. I get why that makes him a better prospect, but he hasn’t done much more than Singler on the court as of now. I think he projects as a pretty average starter.
Jan 23, 2014 • 4:17 pmby MIKEYDE248
After that, he probably said. We’ll show them how to tank.
Jan 23, 2014 • 5:25 pmby James
Again, name a team who is dumb enough to risk their job and make an asinine trade with the Pistons. If I was an opposing GM and Joe called about ANYONE other than Drummond or Monroe, I would hang up. You are STUCK with Smith and probably Jennings as well. Any team in the league could have signed Smith last summer, FOR LESS THAN 13 mil, why in the hell would they trade for him now? GET A GRIP!
Jan 23, 2014 • 5:32 pmby James
I recall all of the promise and talent that a young, offensively gifted big in Boston used to get. Great offense, slow on defense, but good enough to build a team around. Fast forward 7-10 into his career, he’s been passed around the league like a 33 yr old shooting guard whose lost his athletic ability. Al Jefferson, does Monroe come to mind?
Jan 23, 2014 • 7:43 pmby oats
Jefferson has been injury prone his entire career. That’s both limited his effectiveness and been probably the primary reason teams are willing to let him leave. Monroe meanwhile has missed all of 3 games in his career, and 2 of those games were before he got his first game action as a rookie.
Jan 25, 2014 • 12:30 pmby frankie d
jefferson has not been “passed” around the league indiscriminently.
jefferson was the centerpiece of a trade for a league mvp, hall of fame player who immediately led his new team – jefferson’s old team – to a title.
he was traded by that team for a package of players that was essentially 3 first rounders,.
and even after 9 years and lots of injuries he still commands a 41 million/3 year contract.
doesn’t sound like a guy who is considered as disposable as used toilet paper. he is obviously someone who was highly valued and is still highly valued.
that 41 million in his bank account is the best evidence of that.
Jan 23, 2014 • 8:24 pmby Paul Williams
How about we trade Moose and Jerebko to MIL for Henson and the Greek Freak?
Jan 23, 2014 • 8:51 pmby domnick
i want —— Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal trade for Monroe
TAKE IT or LEAVE IT
Jan 23, 2014 • 10:05 pmby Nick N
At this point unless we can get a all-star or superstar in a Monroe trade Detroit mite as well stay pat. A trade will only further complicate things because it’s obvious that coaching is the biggest problem with this team.
Jan 23, 2014 • 10:19 pmby Nick N
I am a supporter of Joe D from the beginning and I believe he need to go down with the ship sense he put this team together.
Jan 24, 2014 • 12:11 amby NBALive14
I just don’t understand why we don’t give josh smith significant minutes at the PF spot
Jan 24, 2014 • 1:14 amby oats
He gets about 20 minutes a game at SF and 15 minutes a game at PF. I’d call that significant minutes, even it if is less than I would advise. That’s also over the course of the season, but lately he’s been playing more at that spot.
Jan 24, 2014 • 8:09 amby Kobina
The real magic for this team happens when Andre Drummond truly blossoms as a offensive force. But I will certainly agree with this; at this point, the team needs to decide if it will bottom out to protect its pick and gain a very valuable asset, or make a trade and truly push for playoff success. This has to be done IMMEDIATELY!!!
Jan 24, 2014 • 8:35 amby Giles
Monroe’s shitty defense is shitty for the team. And I like moose.. Also brandon jennings shitty defense nets to go also. But it is nice to see some one with some point guard skills.
Jan 24, 2014 • 9:59 amby Parsons
For years we had a team of tweeners. Now we have a team of straight forward “I only play one position” players. I think we had so many tweeners now we think everyone can play multiple positions. The reality is though this isn’t true. Monroe, Singler, Smith, Jennings they only play one position and do not play more than one. They lack a fundamental tool necessary to succeed at the new spot. Whether thats strength, athleticism, or in Smiths case brain cells. They are ONLY good at one spot so playing 3 or 4 at a time out of position will never work. If we want to win we need everyone to shift back to their one natural position. Unfortunately though that means at any given point one of our best players will be on the bench and thats not good either but our best chance.
Jan 24, 2014 • 10:35 amby brgulker
What a clown. I’m hoping for a locker room mutiny that forces Joe’s hand to do something.
Jan 24, 2014 • 12:03 pmby Reggie
Everybody thinks that Smith and Jennings is just straight garbage when in reality they have been two of our best four players this year (Drummond and a healthy Stuckey being the other two). Since Monroe is a RFA at year end, why not see if we can trade him for a SF that can shoot from long range. Smith needs to be at PF to get the most out of him. Even without a trade the talent is there but our problem is giving up leads in the 2nd half of games. Everybody on the team (coaches included) is at fault for that. In reality our win and loss record should be reversed at this point of the season.
Jan 24, 2014 • 4:30 pmby danny
Get rid of Smith! He’s an underachiever with a half assed attitude that shows in his game! Get someone who wants to put forth 110% effort or maybe a first round draft pick! Him and Jennings aren’t worth half of what they getting paid, but at least Jennings looks like he cares!
Jan 24, 2014 • 10:36 pmby sebastian
Yes, Josh, you are right … the Pistons are the worst team in the League.
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