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Greg Monroe: Trade rumors affect me

Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:

Monroe, 23, has admitted the talk has affected him.

“It does, to be honest. We’re still trying to get things right, here,” he said. “To see that stuff … I just focus on what we’re doing here. I’m here. If that changes, then I’ll move forward. If it never does, I’ll focus on playing these games and trying to win these games.”

You can read my thoughts at ProBasketballTalk.

40 Comments

  • Jan 26, 20141:54 pm
    by Smitty

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    What rumors? I haven’t hear anything except from people outside of the organization that Monroe is our best trade piece, and that we might be shopping him. Is it people on this website making up trade ideas? Hahaha, because other than the commenters on here, there hasn’t really been much.

  • Jan 26, 20142:05 pm
    by James

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    Bleacher report has posted several pieces about Detroit, Washington, Boston and New Orleans, and Monroe’s name is in each piece. 

    • Jan 26, 20142:09 pm
      by Smitty

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      We’re talking about bleacher report. Come on. I mean like Joe D saying ya we are talking to Was right now about moving Monroe. Joe D saying we are looking to trade before the deadline. 

  • Jan 26, 20142:13 pm
    by Yessir!

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    Someone in another post said that there were talks between Detroit, Boston, and Washington reported On ESPN.  Does anyone have any links?

    • Jan 26, 20142:34 pm
      by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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      Don’t believe everything you read, especially from certain posters on this site…

  • Jan 26, 20142:30 pm
    by James

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    So, bleacher report isn’t s reputable source? Help me out on that one. Are they any less reputable than Yahoo sports or espn?

    • Jan 26, 20143:56 pm
      by Corey

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      Bleacher report articles are often completely clueless. I can’t give you good examples, as I quit reading them a while ago. But the “analysis” in their articles often appears to have been written by someone who’s never even watched a basketball game. As a result, I find everything they report suspect.
       

    • Jan 26, 20149:13 pm
      by Desolation Row

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      Literally anyone can write for Bleacher Report. That is simply not the case for ESPN or Yahoo Sports.

  • Jan 26, 20142:30 pm
    by frankie d

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    This has been a real possibilty/probability since they signed smith.  Anyine with half a brain could see this exact scenario playing out almost exactly as it has.  It was as predictable as rain in seattle in the winter.  The only question is why anyone with half a brain would bring smith on board and screw up a set of young bigs that was the envy of the league.
    Said it before…this set of FA signings is actually worse than BG and CV.  That was certainly bad but after all of the fallout from smith and jennings -trading monroe, dumars’ firing, whatever else comes down – pistons’ fans will look at bringing smith and jennings to town as a catastrophe on a level with the dick vitale circus.

    • Jan 26, 20143:20 pm
      by kevin s.

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      The volume of trade rumors likely indicates someone in the organization is stoking talk for some reason. This, combined with his status as an RFA, and the fact the Pistons signed a more expensive option at his position, probably has him concerned.
      It’s too bad. Smith sucks, and will be in his 30s by the time this team gets anywhere close to contention. Players like him hit the wall hard at 30. This is looking like the worst signing in team history by a healthy margin.

      • Jan 26, 20143:38 pm
        by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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        When it comes to the Pistons organization usually all rumors referring to us end up being false…Our organization makes trades out of no-where…When Prince got traded it came out of left field…A week before the trade there were rumors that Prince was assured he wouldn’t be traded…Ben Gordon’s trade came from left field too…Even before the Brandon Jennings trade there were rumors that the Pistons didn’t have conversations with the Buck…
         
        Like I’ve said plenty of times, don’t listen to everything the media tells you…#NBAEmployment

        • Jan 26, 20143:55 pm
          by kevin s.

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          Most rumors end up being false, period. These a paired with reduced playing time for Monroe, and the sense the Pistons realize they made a mistake hiring a third big, and that they are not willing to own up to their mistake in signing Smith.

        • Jan 26, 20145:47 pm
          by frankie d

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          simply not true.  you have to know which sources to listen to.
          for instance, chad ford has long been a dumars’ mouthpiece and when ford says something about what detroit is thinking of doing, you can pretty much guarantee that he’s simply repeating what he’s heard from joe d himself.  ford has been plugged into joe d for over a decade, at least.
          not sure about other reporters, but it simply isnt true to say that usually all rumors are false.  in fact, for better or worse, all of the messed up stuff joe d has done over the last decade or so has long been reported as rumor.
          he had a crush on AI for years before he was finally able to land him.  there were constant rumors about joe d trying to trade for AI, and it finally happened.  same thing with josh smith.  there were rumors about smith coming to detroit pretty much from his first year in the league.  the gordon to detroit rumors started near the end of his last free agent year in chicago.   sam smith, the old tribune writer specifically reported that detroit was targeting gordon, as crazy as it seemed, considering the great depth detroit had in the backcourt.
          joe d talks.  he has his boys all over the country, in all kinds of corners of the league.  sure, every time a detroit rumor is reported, it aint necessarily true, but when certain reporters cite specific stuff – like chad ford, especially – detroit fans should listen carefully.

          • Jan 26, 20146:17 pm
            by kevin s.

            I haven’t noticed Chad Ford being especially adept at predicting Joe D’s behavior. I would say that we know Dumars reached out to the Raptors regarding (ack) Rudy Gay. That ship has sailed, but I can’t imagine Joe passing up Monroe for DeRozan, nor can I imagine Ujiri not pulling the trigger on that trade in a heartbeat.
            There are a number of deals that could bring back a volume shooter for Monroe, and common sense and history tells us JoeD is looking into them.

          • Jan 26, 20146:19 pm
            by oats

            Generalized things like Dumars like Iverson or Smith are often true. Specific things like Detroit is going to trade Tayshaun Prince and a pick for Josh Smith are almost always false.

          • Jan 26, 20146:48 pm
            by frankie d

            go back through some of ford’s archives.  he has a couple of really long, in depth interviews with joe d.  it is obvious that they have a relationship.  maybe you just haven’t been paying much attention over the years, but it is clear that he’s plugged into joe d.  when no one knew who rodney stuckey was, ford had him going to detroit in his mock drafts.  
            he is almost always right on target with who joe d is looking at seriously in drafts.
            as far as specific items being false…sure, rumors often report the rough parameters of deals, which is about as good as it can get, actually, as trades involve complex negotiations that can change in seconds.
            ironic that you mention tay and a pick for smith, as, imho, it almost looks as though that is exactly what joe d ultimately did.  
            he cleared cap space by trading tay and eventually letting calderone walk.  and he cleared further cap space by sacrificing that first rounder to charlotte.  so that long rumored tay-for-smith trade, actually happened….just in a very roundabout way.

          • Jan 26, 20148:17 pm
            by CityofKlompton

            Rumors are just that: rumors. They don’t always come true and often aren’t even based in truth, but that doesn’t mean EVERYTHING you hear is false. Detroit actually had a trade agreed to that would have brought Iverson here in 2000, but Matt Geiger (yes, Matt Geiger) had a no-trade clause that he wouldn’t waive, and so the trade was thrown out. No surprise AI ended up here years later anyway.

            Not all of the time but a substantial amount of the time, rumors float around for a while before something actually snags. Don’t read into them too much, but don’t completely dismiss them either.  Also, it’s not like Greg Monroe started talking about this unprompted. The fact that the question is continually being asked has to give you some type of clue that there are talks going on around the league – even if they are just cursory.

    • Jan 26, 20146:08 pm
      by oats

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      @ frankie d. It’s still hard to get worse than BG and CV. For starters, they are both vaguely productive basketball players which is enough to trump CV on the court. So to be worse than that combo you need to be talking about the moves that the signing spurs the team to make. Considering the team gave away a first round pick to dump BG, it will be awfully hard for Detroit to catch that one.
       
      Also, isn’t a Dumars firing a good thing? He’s been bad at his job for awhile.

      • Jan 26, 20146:57 pm
        by frankie d

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        @ oats….
        i just think that when all of the dust settles, that the smith and jennings signings will have triggered a horrible domino-effect crisis that will be really, really bad.
        (and yes, getting rid of dumars will be a plus, but i have no confidence that gores will get the next hire right, and we could go from a bad dumars era to a catastrophically bad era led by…?)
        frankly, i’ve thought that they were going to trade monroe, from the moment they signed smith.  it was the only thing that made signing smith halfway understandable.  and now they have reduced monroe’s trade value because of the way they are handling him and essentially, , imho, i think they are going to almost “dump” him in a trade so bad – but made necessary because of panic – that it will be almost shocking.
        i can imagine other panicked moves – dumping stuckey for next to nothing, trading another first round pick – but we will just have to wait and see how it all plays out in order to see just how bad things actually get.  there has been nothing done recently that provides any sense of security or confidence.  what has happened since last june/july – passing on burke, letting calderone walk, signing smith/jennings, hiring cheeks – has been so incompetent, so contrary to common sense,  i am just trying to figure out how it can get worse.  
        stay tuned….

      • Jan 26, 20147:25 pm
        by frankie d

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        btw, i think fans now forget just how well regarded gordon was at the time of the signing, and how CV was seen as an extremely talented underacheiver.
        gordon was a 6th man of the year who’s shot at least 40% from 3 for years, and had a great playoffs’ record.  while there were questions about his fit – was he a 1 or 2 or just a combo guard? – he was seen universally as a 3 point assassin who had just come off a monster playoff series against boston.  he was considered one of the league’s best offensive weapons.
        CV had just had what we now know was a salary drive, but many saw that period as the beginning of what they’d always expected to see from a guy like CV a talented lottery pick.
        i see smith and jennings as very similar talents.  not exact, by any means, but very similar in that, like CV and BG, they had played great ball at times, showed great potential, but had very obvious warts that could be fatal.  with the first pair of signings, the flaws – to some degree because of poor coaching – became more important than their positives.  
        so far, it is not starting out any better for this pair.

  • Jan 26, 20144:46 pm
    by Mr Woods

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    He’s beyond soft. Move him & Stuckey to OKC for Lamb, Perry Jones III, & Steven Adams & their draft pick for this yr.

    • Jan 26, 20145:25 pm
      by Parsons

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      I agree. OKC should like this too. Once Westbrook comes back they’d be stacked. I don’t think they’d give up Jackson though for 2 reasons. That would leave their bench thin and Westbrook gets hurt a lot lately. They do have an extra pick from Houston though that they got in the Hardon trade so that might get thrown in. Monroe would play great in OKC. He’d be back to playing Center and he takes pressure off of Ibaka to score. On top of that their coach is better than ours though I said that about the local Jr. High coach. I think OKC has the best tanking package for us in my opinion. That is unless Boston or Orlando offers us picks which Orlando wouldn’t since they’re tanking too.

      • Jan 26, 20145:32 pm
        by gmehl

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        as much as I’d take the deal I couldn’t see OKC doing it for the simple reason that i couldn’t see them giving Monroe max money. I mean they wouldn’t give it to Harden so what makes you think they’d give it to moose.

        • Jan 26, 20145:53 pm
          by Parsons

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          They’d be trading for a rental and a chance to go into the playoffs as the favorite. Teams give up a lot for a chance to win, look at Cleveland and they’re not even in the playoffs. They only really need Lamb but I think Jackson could replace him or Stuckey. Truth be told we can probably get these 3 without giving up Stuckey. Maybe if we toss in Stuckey we could snag Jackson though I doubt it. Stuckey would have to resign for a cheapish contract for that to work.

          • Jan 26, 20146:15 pm
            by oats

            You really think they give up all of their young developmental players other than Jackson and a 1st round pick for half a year of Monroe? They’d be insane to do that. It might improve their odds this one year slightly if they can manage to rework their team chemistry after all of those changes, but it’s a long term disaster for them if they let Monroe walk. This is a really young team, not some team with their window about to close on them. I don’t think there’s any way they are desperate enough to make that shortsighted of a move.

    • Jan 26, 20145:29 pm
      by gmehl

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      It’s sad it’s come to this but I’d gladly take that deal

  • Jan 26, 20145:30 pm
    by Dacata

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    Give us Westbrook for Monroe Stuck and CV and we take back Perkins to back up DRE. Gives OKC a tone of payroll flexibility and a low post scorer in Monroe. They no longer need Westbrook as the past few months has shown.

    • Jan 26, 20149:16 pm
      by Desolation Row

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      If only. 

  • Jan 26, 20145:34 pm
    by Dacata

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    Works pretty well for both teams actually, remember OKC has to pay the likes of Jackson, Lee and Lamb over coming seasons they can’t keep the younger talent they have With Perkins and Westbrook around.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ltforl3

    • Jan 27, 20146:04 am
      by Tim Thielke

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      If Detroit wants Westbrook, it will cost Drummond. I don’t know if either side agrees to that, but at least it would be plausible.

      Westbrook for Monroe only happens if OKC has serious doubts about Westbrook’s ability to ever get back to 100%.

  • Jan 26, 20148:24 pm
    by James

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    That’s not a good proposal for OKC. Monroe would be severely exposed in the western conference, especially in the playoffs. Every playoff team over there has bigs that would completely dominate him. At least Perkins fake tough guy rep gets him by with his slow-footed a$$. 

    • Jan 26, 20149:23 pm
      by CityofKlompton

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      Have to agree. Not only does OKC take back a bunch of crap and a center who can’t play defense to save his life, but they also lose a superstar and all of the revenue and other off-the-court bonuses that come with him. 

    • Jan 26, 201411:54 pm
      by T Casey

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      He would be a bad fit anywhere at center if that team wants to compete for a title, but as a pf he can be a damn good piece as a 3rd or 4th option for the right price. Personally, I think 10 mil is the max anyone should pay for him unless he expands his offensive game.

  • Jan 26, 201410:00 pm
    by domnick

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    Right now, we need to act… 17-27… not a good record and definitely joe d should MOVE!

  • Jan 26, 201410:28 pm
    by just(A)fan

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    full tank mode 

  • Jan 28, 20145:49 am
    by MrCarter

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    just remember the Bleacher Report recommended once a trade of Spurs sending Danny Green and a future 2nd rd pick to Detroit for Monroe as a deal that would “make sense”. Thats all you need to know about the sites reliability and credibility.

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