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Should the Pistons trade Greg Monroe?

I answered a few questions for TruthAboutIt.net before tonight’s Pistons-Wizards game, and one of them was about the possibility of trading Greg Monroe:

Q #3: Detroit will still probably make the playoffs in the East, but is it generally the feeling that to improve, the Pistons should be thinking about what they could get in a trade of Monroe that might better mesh with Drummond, Smith and Jennings? (And how good is that ‘feeling’?)

@danfeld11: If the Pistons want to be better at this very moment, they should trade Monroe for a wing player with a good outside shot. Monroe for Bradley, perhaps? But Beal might be aiming too high. More likely, the Pistons would have to settle for a lesser player. Obviously, selling low would limit Detroit’s long-term potential. Monroe isn’t an ideal fit with this team, but he’ a very good player. If the Pistons are patient with him, there’s a solid chance they can either transform the team to make him fit better or trade him for fair value.

Check out the Q&A for more on Josh Smith’s benching and why the Pistons might win big tonight.

54 Comments

  • Dec 30, 20134:58 pm
    by Jacob

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    Does anyone think that the Celtics would trade Rondo, Green, and Wallace for Monroe, Jennins, Jerebko and Charlie V?

    • Dec 31, 201312:57 pm
      by Jared

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      no way in hell would they do that lol, and i wouldnt want to either, i believe monroe should go for far more than bradley, but with charlies contract you’d be dumping a lot of cap on the celtics, im not sure anyones trying to spend money on an old, injured player

  • Dec 30, 20135:19 pm
    by Mel

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    Yes ! This is all I have to say of this matter for now.

  • Dec 30, 20135:37 pm
    by jay

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    How about trade Monroe n stuckey for Aaron affaflo n Tobias Harris… like Chad ford suggested or Monroe for Thaddeus young 

    • Dec 30, 20135:49 pm
      by gmehl

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      Oh yes please. I am all for a Afflalo/Harris for Monroe/Stuckey swap. The problem is I really cannot see Orlando going for it as they already have Vucevic at center. This trade would actually solve 5 of our problems with 1 hit. We’d be:
      1) off load Monroe for a close to equal return (IMHO)
      2) off load Suckey before we lose him for nothing
      3) slot Afflalo in at SG
      4) slot Harris in a SF
      5) add perimeter defense at both positions
       
       
      This trade would essentially solve most of our problems and even though Afflalo has already hit his peak/prime I’d be willing to roll with this deal rather then see this team internally explode and ruin my love of the game of basketball any longer.

      • Dec 30, 20135:51 pm
        by gmehl

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        Oh and I suppose you could add to more points in:
        6) add perimeter shooting
        7) sliding Smith into PF

        • Dec 30, 20137:10 pm
          by jake

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          i’d LOVE the ford-proposed magic deal, and i’d like it even more if we added singler and nicholson to the deal. that’d give us a good backup big that can space the floor for drummond/smith instead of having to play harris or singler at PF for stretches.
          afflalo could even defend bigger guards with KCP on the off guard for a final possession kinda scenario which is very important as long as jennings is our PG imo.

          • Dec 31, 201312:59 pm
            by Jared

            my only problem with that is harrelson has actually played really well, i dont think trading singler is the best choice, especially with josh moving to the 4

    • Dec 30, 20137:30 pm
      by Jacob

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      Would the Magic consider this trade? If they would that would be great.

    • Dec 30, 20138:50 pm
      by Vic

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      That’s the first sensible trade for Monroe i’ve heard.
      Harris is actually a PF that can stretch the floor. But he’s young enough to matchup with Drummond.
      Afflalo is good too.
       
      I’d still keep Monroe though. Stagger the PFs we have now.

    • Dec 30, 20139:48 pm
      by CityofKlompton

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      As much as I’m an advocate for trading Monroe to balance out the roster, I don’t think there are too many scenarios that would realistically be a sure success – however, this is an interesting proposal.

  • Dec 30, 20135:58 pm
    by Ryan

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    If we trade Greg Monroe to make room for Josh Smith that will be the single stupidest move in the history of this franchise and a guarantee that we will not win a title during the next 5-7 years. Even the idea makes me sick. We NEED to trade Josh Smith if we can get even 60 cents on the dollar and figure out how to build around Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond.

    • Dec 30, 20136:16 pm
      by Ozzie-Moto

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      Nice idea BUT you leave out the fact that Monroe is a center and has NOT developed his mid range shot  and can’t guard many power forwards …….  IF he had shown more improvement at the 4 this would make sense  but he has not.  The twin towers are a nice concept IF ONE CAN SHOOT from mid range.    I am not enamored with Smith but you JUST LIKE Joe D are engorging what is in front of your face.  Dru the  best center, Monroe a OK inside scoring center and Smith is NOT a small forward.  Also posted on many blogs was the efficiency rating of the 3 starting vs  Dru and Moose  vs  Dru and Smith and Smith and Monroe ….  Dru and Smith on the floor blew away Smith and Monroe or all 3 on the floor….. FACTs and STATs and common sense say THIS in not working ……. 

      • Dec 30, 20136:24 pm
        by gmehl

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        Someone should post those stats to Dumars. Anyone got his email?

      • Dec 30, 20139:18 pm
        by V-Time34

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        Another thing we have to consider is how will we be able to pay Monroe if we do sign him to an extension which from what I’m hearing is possibly $50-60 million. can we really afford his, Jennings and smith’s contracts and then drummonds future extension and be able to build a solid core/bench around that? smh on that smith contract really puts us on a jam.

    • Dec 30, 20136:19 pm
      by gmehl

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      Build around Monroe and Drummond?? Im assuming you didn’t see I HATE FRANK’s link he posted yesterday. If not have a look at the figures for yourself. It’s right there in black and white.
      https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/417335699906371585/photo/1

      • Dec 30, 20137:11 pm
        by frankie d

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        Anyone who would base any decisions  on this abomination of an offensive scheme should have their head examined.
        As was obvious from the very beginning, it was going to take good, creative coaching to fit monroe into any possible scheme – smith is much less dependant on structure – and cheeks had been anything but good and creative.
        The mass hysteria that has taken hold of pistons’ fans has only been matched by the euphoria that surrounded AI coming to detroit.
         

        • Dec 30, 20137:57 pm
          by gmehl

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          I think the only way a Monroe/Drummond frontline ever works is if you had a really good defensive/shooting SF playing beside them and they don’t just grow on trees. Even then it would be reliant on one of them (Moose or Dre) developing a mid range game. I think it would be easier to pair Drummond with a Ryan Anderson stretch 4 type player. Anyways the defensive/shooting type SF I’m talking about would be someone like Ariza but of course Ariza for Monroe would be selling ourselves waaaay short.

  • Dec 30, 20136:39 pm
    by jprime18

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    I feel like I’m the only Pistons fan that doesn’t want to trade Moose. Patience is a virtue, kids.

    • Dec 30, 20137:38 pm
      by Ozzie-Moto

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      J Prime, Do you expect him to gain foot speed so he can guard more nimble power forwards ? . Do you expect him to develop a 12-14 foot jumper ?   He had all summer (and actually a few before that ) to work on his mid range game and HE won’t even take Jumpers  it is all hook shots or nothing…  How are we going to play with 2 Centers … I like him a lot but we  have SUCH other needs… and he an Dru or He Dru and Smith dont play well together! Look at the stats.     The only thing i could see is Monroe coming off the bench ala Kevin McHale……  but then your committing your 2nd team to a slower pace (most 2nd units try to up tempo) …

  • Dec 30, 20137:33 pm
    by 89,90, 04

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    I would be idiotic to even consider a trade involving moose 23 yrs old good improving low post game. You want to get better? Trade Smith for deng or ariza both defend shoot the 3  stretch the defense and play in the confines of the game plan Smith too many times doesn’t take what the defense gives him his d is good but he’s not a shooter he doesn’t always take advantage of his mid range game.  This team doesn’t play hard every game they need to grow up  keep these guys together remember at one point we had linsey , grant, theo, and allan Houston just think how mqny championships we could have had if those guys would have stayed together and healthy

    • Dec 30, 20139:41 pm
      by T Casey

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      Unfortunately trading Moose makes sense, even if it’s largely because we recently acquired 2 guys who are basically not tradable because most teams don’t want to take them or their contracts. If we’re going to be stuck with the basic core of guys we have now, at some point it may make sense to move the most tradable asset to set us up for better positioning moving forward.
      I don’t like the situation because I think Monroe fits better into a successful long term picture for us than Smith, but unless we get a coach who can come up with more unconventional offensive schemes to help the squad or at least get them playing better defensively, it may be a quality move. Still not sure if it’s the best move, but I can see the benefit.

  • Dec 30, 20137:45 pm
    by Corey

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    Trading Monroe for a good young wing makes a ton of sense. Trading Josh is also an option, but he’s the better fit next to Andre.  The trick is to find a good young wing available to take back- but it should be possible

  • Dec 30, 20139:45 pm
    by Jim

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    The best trade that I would pull the trigger on is Greg Monroe for Jeff Green (with a couple role players added) but Jeff Green would be an absolute perfect fit in detroit. It would be arguably the best starting five in basketball.

  • Dec 30, 20139:57 pm
    by jacob

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    This defense SUCKS. Offense isn’t great.

  • Dec 30, 201310:29 pm
    by 89,90, 04

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    Trade smitty too many mental lapses turn over machine love Jennings shows steady improvement in becoming a true floor general on 24 moose 23 dre, kcp 20 Smith 28 give moose his money , when its dre’s turn to get a maximum and we all know he will smitty has only a year left then decide moose still will only 26        

  • Dec 30, 201310:30 pm
    by Joey R.

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    Trade for Ryan Anderson and Austin rivers, for improvement on outside scoring

  • Dec 30, 201311:07 pm
    by Ryan

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    http://www.82games.com/1314/1314DET2.HTM

    Our best five man line up is the one that doesn’t include Josh Smith. The stats being thrown around that make Monroe look bad don’t consider the other starters.

  • Dec 30, 201311:26 pm
    by Kevin S.

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    Everyone realizes Josh Smith completely and utterly sucks at basketball, and that moving him to the PF slot is just going to mean he will completely and utterly suck at that position, right? 

  • Dec 30, 201311:37 pm
    by Jon

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    Here’s an unpopular opinion: trade both of them. Monroe because it’s not looking like his jump shot is improving and that is completely essential if he is to be able to play next to Drummond for the foreseeable future. Smith needs to go because he’s selfish and will be good only until his athleticism fades, which may be sooner than later since he’s been in the league a very long time for only being 28 and his foot speed seems slower than in the past.  Moving only one or the other for solid wing players would probably get a win in a playoff series this year but  there’s no chance they would beat the Pacers or Heat unless some serious injuries occurred and what’s the point of getting to the second round of the playoffs if that’s where they’ll be stuck for the next 8 years

  • Dec 31, 201312:07 am
    by Ken

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    Affalo would be great, or I wonder if they could package him with something for Millsap, or better yet, Monroe/Stuckey for Millsap/Korver

  • Dec 31, 201312:13 am
    by Ken

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    and just think, Joe traded Affalo for a 2nd round pick a few years back

  • Dec 31, 20131:10 am
    by CBASS

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    Monroe and whoever makes salaries work for Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, and 2nd round pick

  • Dec 31, 20132:11 am
    by Trout Jefferson

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    Greg Monroe isn’t a good fit? Am I reading this correctly? So, Josh Smith IS a good fit despite his absolutely atrocious shooting and generally being a net-loss player? We want to keep the bad player because he “fits” and get rid of the good player because he doesn’t “fit.”
    My God.

  • Dec 31, 20132:49 am
    by zflo

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    trade for tony allen! but that might be really impossible

  • Dec 31, 20134:19 am
    by microjfox

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    CBASS has a legit trade.

  • Dec 31, 20134:38 am
    by berni

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    Trade monroe for jeremy lamb a Steve adams
    pg jennings/stuckey
    Sg lamb/kcp
    Sf kyle/jonas
    Pf J smith/charlie
    C Andre/steve
     
     

  • Dec 31, 20139:37 am
    by TSM

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    What about a trade with the Wizards that sends Josh Smith and Kyle Singler to the Wizards for Trevor Ariza, Kevin Seraphin, and Chris Singleton. Then the Pistons trade J. Jerebko to the Mavericks for Wayne Ellington and Bernard James. James would then be waived to make both trades work roster space wise (15 total).

  • Dec 31, 201310:30 am
    by Pistonssince97

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    NO. Trade Josh Smith.  Monroe will get there he is 4-5 years away from his prime! Go look at Afflalo.  Josh Smith signing was a huge mistake and trading Monroe would be a mistake on the same level as trading Chauncey for AI.  Smith is 28(29?) already! He’s still airballing jumpers and you wanna trade a guy who is only going to get better.  Our 4 and 5 are set, and it doesnt include Smith.  Figure out the rest of the roster Joe

  • Dec 31, 201312:08 pm
    by dondon

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    trade monre for k lenard and green

  • Dec 31, 20135:13 pm
    by Rolax

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    I don’t think we should trade Monroe, keep the team the way it is, the only way this is going to work if Monroe is sent to the bench for Kyle and Monroe and Stuckey playing against the opposing teams second unit, we would then get better bench play and Kyle always plays with energy something this teams lacks on a nightly basis

  • Dec 31, 20137:06 pm
    by CBASS

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    Josh Smith and Rodney Stuckey for Suns 1st round pick, Gerald Green, Channing Frye.

    • Dec 31, 20137:09 pm
      by CBASS

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      (leave out Rodney Stuckey, salaries don’t work out)

  • Dec 31, 20137:39 pm
    by Johnny K.

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    I think a trade for Carmelo Anthony would be great for the city and this team. Trade Greg Monroe, Rodney Stukey, and Charlie V. (3 expiring contracts) for Carmelo Anthony (Player Option) We could make a run for the title with that roster. If Melo doesn’t want to come back then we have 21 million in cap…. GONE! we can go for another big name wing. 
     

    • Jan 1, 20143:46 am
      by Pistonssince97

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      Run for the title? What league do you follow?

  • Dec 31, 201310:52 pm
    by Angry little man

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    I would trade him for whom I dont know, but let me ask you this. Is Monroe really that good ? he could easily average a double double but every game I’ve seen him play he’s lazy on D and gives up as much as he puts up in points and bounds.  No place on a Piston team for lazy players. 

  • Jan 1, 20143:03 pm
    by B-Dog

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    Why would the Pistons trade a player who is only around the age of 23 and can still get better. Smith is only going to get worse and is gonna be old by the time our younger players get to their prime. Y’all are saying that we need a PF that can shoot to spread the floor which sounds stupid bcz Smith is a TERRIBLE shooter that isn’t going to get Better. I say trade Smith for a young or in-his-prime SF that can shoot

  • Jan 2, 20142:24 am
    by Joey R.

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    I want to see a Courtney Lee, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace and a 1 rounder trade go through for a Greg Monroe, Will Bynum, Charlie V, and J.Jerebko … Id personally keep Jonas Jerebko but thats the only way a trade could go.

  • Jan 2, 20143:01 am
    by Joey R.

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    Trade Josh Smith, Will Bynum, Charlie V for Jeff Green, Courtney Lee and Gerald Wallace and a pick 

  • Jan 2, 20148:29 pm
    by CBASS

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    We should acquire Chandler Parsons at all cost

    • Jan 2, 20149:16 pm
      by Tim Thielke

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      So you would trade Drummond and a future pick for him?

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