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Nobody (Pistons) beats the Wiz?

Essentials

  • Teams: Washington Wizards (13-14) at Detroit Pistons (14-18)
  • Date: December 30, 2013
  • Time: 7:30 p.m.
  • Television: FSD Plus

What to look for

The Detroit Pistons are in the midst of arguably their worst five-game stretch of the season. During this timeframe, Detroit has been defeated four times by double digits and that’s putting it lightly.

The closest defeat was a loss at the hands of the Charlotte Bobcats by 10 points at home. The remaining defeats have come by an average of 19.3 points against the Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic and Washington Wizards.

Their most recent defeat came at the hands of a Wizards team two nights ago that has feasted on sub-.500 squads as of late. Indeed, Washington has won four of their past five contests.

The four wins came against Eastern Conference teams with losing records and the lone defeat was at the hands of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Washington might very well be the best bad team in the east.

They have the fourth-best record in the conference behind the Indiana Pacers, Miami Heat and Atlanta Hawks. Furthermore, one could argue that they have the best core of all the losing teams in the conference (Brooklyn Nets notwithstanding).

The Wizards’ starting perimeter players seem to play well off each other thanks in large part to John Wall. The former Kentucky Wildcat possesses some great athletic gifts and consequently, he uses them to create advantageous matchups for his team.

Wall is a terror off the bounce when he gets into the lane and he forces defenses to converge upon him. From there, he can dish off to others for high-percentage looks. The beneficiaries of Wall’s play are typically Trevor Ariza and Bradley Beal.

In 50 minutes of playing time versus the Pistons this season, the trio is scoring a staggering 119.4 points per 100 possessions according to NBA.com. As a reference point, the Portland Trail Blazers have the league’s best offense and produce 110.4 points per 100 possessions.

The biggest reason the threesome has been so potent in head-to-head matchups versus the Pistons is Trevor Ariza. Detroit simply has not been able to put the clamps on him. Indeed, the former Los Angeles Laker is averaging a Tracy McGrady-esque 21.5 points, 7.5 rebounds and 4.5 assists per game on 52 percent shooting from the field against Maurice Cheek’s bunch. Most of his damage has been done from long range, where he has converted 10 of 17 treys.

If the Pistons wish to reverse their fortunes against the Wiz (have lost twice already to them), the first place to start is with Ariza.

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80 Comments

  • Dec 30, 20138:07 pm
    by jacob

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    1st quarter d was terrible.

  • Dec 30, 20138:08 pm
    by jacob

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    And free throw shooting was amateur at best.

  • Dec 30, 20138:42 pm
    by Brandon Knight

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    It is funny how Andre Drummond who played only 11 minutes got the same stat line as Greg Monroe in 20 minutes.

  • Dec 30, 20138:52 pm
    by Vic

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    Passing the ball around and using your shooting guard to space the floor. What a genius decision.

  • Dec 30, 20138:54 pm
    by Vic

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    Now this is a Pistons team that can win something. 
    Smennings leading the team in assists, not shot attempts. 
    That one idea can change the whole season.

  • Dec 30, 20138:57 pm
    by gmehl

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    Free throw shooting is a huge achilles heal for this team. Even Datome has got the shakes at the line. On a bright note it was good to see KCP find some shooting form. I guess we’ll see how the come out after halftime. You’d hope they don’t come out like like they have ALL season… passive and playing to keep it rather than extend it and blow the other team the fark out of the water!

  • Dec 30, 20139:52 pm
    by danny

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    Wish we could flip moose for gordan hayward!  He fills the small forward real nice and has a lot of play making abilities.  Would probably throw in a first rounder as well?  Just would like to know some of the other opinions on this idea.

    • Dec 30, 201310:37 pm
      by Reaction

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      I would never trade moose for haywood. Moose is way better than haywood.

      • Dec 30, 201311:56 pm
        by danny

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        I do not agree with this statement, think hayward’s versatility is suited well for this team.  Of course they have two bigs so most likely would need a third team in the mix.  Someone that would give them first round draft picks in the next, or up coming drafts.

        • Dec 31, 20138:58 am
          by I HATE FRANK

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          the Problem with Hayward is the same problem Greg and those contracts….
          The only thing the jazz can offer is cap Space…

          • Dec 31, 201311:37 am
            by Danny

            Agreed, but I’ve seen enough to make some moves and gamble.

  • Dec 30, 20139:53 pm
    by Lorenzo

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    I for the life of me don’t understand why there is no movement on the offensive side of the court. Guys just standing around and ball watching, it’s infuriating. 

    • Dec 30, 201310:08 pm
      by gmehl

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      The reason why this happens is because this team has no half court offence whatsoever. Things become stagnant because there are no shooters which in turn allows the opposition defence to sag into the middle down low. The thing we are good at is getting our points on fast breaks which tends to dry up in the 4th quarter when the other team is more inclined to take care of the ball.
       
      Things are going to get worse folks so get used to it.

  • Dec 30, 20139:53 pm
    by jacob

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    How about trade anyone and everyone but Andre. Crap team.

  • Dec 30, 20139:58 pm
    by Vic

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    stopped the ball movement, Smennings upped their shot attempts. lost the game.

    • Dec 30, 201310:05 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      Can’t blame Jennings….he had to take shots..he took one quick 3…the line up was jacked up…

      • Dec 30, 201310:10 pm
        by gmehl

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        The reason he takes quick shots like that is because we halve no half court offence. However it’s still his job as the PG to run the offence. He had a great game tonight so no you can’t blame him.

  • Dec 30, 201310:03 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    This is becoming comical….the start of the 4th qrt line up was horrible….Billups is terrible, why did Pope only get 2 shots in the second half? then you put Greg, Smith, and Andre in the line up together….when u know they back the paint…
    Watching Nene make no hesitation mid range shots is everything we want…from our bigs…
     
    Lol…okay we are officially open for trade talks…only players i’d keep is due and jennings….and surround them with shooters
     

  • Dec 30, 201310:04 pm
    by Brandon Knight

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    Starting the fourth quarter with Chauncy Billups was the reason we lost. He killed the momentum. And please don’t blame Jennings for shooting the late threes. Guys on the floor were dead. No movement at all. 

    • Dec 30, 201310:14 pm
      by gmehl

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      It is comical that you can blame Billups for losing this game. You don’t think it might have something to do with poor free throw shooting and no half court offence to run??? Things dry up for us in the 4th quarter every game even in the ones we have just managed to eek out. This team is a shambles.

      • Dec 30, 201310:24 pm
        by zdwtr

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        All I can say is the backcourt duo of Will and Chauncey lost our leads. Thats a fact. After that we couldnt gain momentum
         

      • Dec 30, 201310:51 pm
        by Brandon Knight

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        Dude we had a 10 point lead going into the 4th quarter! Jennings should’ve started.

    • Dec 30, 201310:22 pm
      by zdwtr

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      All I can say is the backcourt duo of Will and Chauncey lost our leads. Thats a fact. After that we couldnt gain momentum

      • Dec 30, 201311:44 pm
        by Otis

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        Hey, y’know we opened the season with a win against the Wiz and our starting backcourt was Bynum and Chauncey. If I remember correctly, they each scored 17 and the team literally never looked more cohesive than they did in that game. Pointing to those two as “the problem” is ridiculous. Pointing to anyone except Joe as THE problem is ridiculous. This team has almost nothing but problems.

        • Dec 31, 20138:18 am
          by I HATE FRANK

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          I disagree Otis, and the Wizard were a different team at the start of the season to noon…
          bynum and billups in the backcourt together are undersized, Slow, neither can run a offense…
          HATE JENNINGS! all you want..he actually is getting blood from out of a rock, everytime he gets 8 plus ast….
          Bynum and Billups need alot of space and shooters to be effective…
           
           
           
           

          • Dec 31, 201312:10 pm
            by Otis

            There’s not much to disagree with in what I said. I only made two points, and they were only partially related. And neither one of them had to do with those guys’ performance of late. I wasn’t even REALLY disagreeing with you that these two were a problem last night, just pointing out the irony that these guys are taking SO much flak for last night when they led the charge in the season opener and the team as a whole, especially those two, played better than this team has looked all season.
             
            They might have been a drag on the team last night, but pointing to guys like Billups (who should officially be a coach right now) and Bynum (who is basically a third PG on most good teams) is absurd. Partially because of how effective they were coming out of training camp, partially because the rest of the team should be good enough that those two can’t screw things up. The fact that they’re even in a POSITION to drag the team down is a problem in and of itself. They should be end of the bench type of guys on a team that’s strong enough to withstand the ebbs and flows when they play.

  • Dec 30, 201310:05 pm
    by jopl

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    All year, the 2nd half of the 4th quarter has resulted in Brandon Jennings dribbling and pulling offense from his ass while everyone else watches.  No ball movement, no plays.  I dont get it.  The coaching staff and players have to know this is a problem.  

    • Dec 30, 201311:47 pm
      by Otis

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      It’s not good, but this is a symptom, not the disease. The disease is an awful team with no balance whatsoever. Too much non-shooting big man depth for our own good, not nearly enough perimeter depth. The Pistons are eminently easy to game plan and defend, and it seems like the obvious is becoming clearer and clearer as the season rolls on: Pack the paint and the Pistons literally can’t beat you from outside. Jennings is taking what the defense is giving him. This team needs a complete overhaul.

    • Dec 31, 201312:35 am
      by Vic

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      In the first half, it was so easy to move the ball. 
      Smennings was leading the team in assists, not shot attempts. 
      Then in the 2nd half they went into “takeover” mode, and the game was thrown away… yet again. 
      This has to be easy to see.

  • Dec 30, 201310:06 pm
    by jacob

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    kcp doesn’t attack the basket unless its a fast break. This defense is fucking trash. Josh and Brandon suck. Joe d should pretty much be fired immediately. What a shit team. Monroe plays bad d. Doesn’t pass on offense smith takes tons of bad shots. Wow. No reason to watch anymore. I’m on Xmas break and work 2nd shit so thank god I don’t have to after this game. Jennings and Monroe for rondo and green. Do it joe or just quit.

  • Dec 30, 201310:07 pm
    by grizz3741

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    I see KCP standing around at the 3 pt line every possession … That is lazy basketball … lazy on Cheeks part .. See San Antonio Spurs …

  • Dec 30, 201310:08 pm
    by Dacata

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    Pretty simple reason why we collapse in the 4th every game, we lack a players who are able to execute a bread and butter play down the stretch. No Stockton or Malone here, just a side shown of players standing around taking no rhythm jump shots.

    • Dec 30, 201311:50 pm
      by Otis

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      This is basically spot on. There are a lot of problems with this team– literally there’s basically nothing but problems– but only a few ways to boil them all down into a sentence. Your sentence about not having a bread-and-butter play is one such sentence. This team has no bread and butter at all. The closest thing they have to bread and butter is a Greg Monroe isolayshaun play, and that’s a very shitty option. This team has nothing to rely on either offensively or defensively. It’s a living, breathing disaster.

  • Dec 30, 201310:11 pm
    by jacob

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    Kelser seams I’ll watching these games. Wizards are improving, and pistons suck dick is what he wanted to say. Cause they do. Bynum and billups are really bad. Kcp needs to attack more. It’s like having a guard that can’t dribble.

  • Dec 30, 201310:15 pm
    by grizz3741

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    Have to agree .. Billups needs to be a coach and not a player from here on out … The will to win is weak as we have another 4th quarter fade … Free throw misses are the final nail in the coffin when we are getting so little out of SF and SG … I dont see how Cheeks makes it through the end of the season .. but I like him because he tells it straight, I just wish he would scream more .. and refuse to play Smith at SF even if it means less time on the floor for the Big 3 Bigs ..  … I take back what I said about the team needing a new GM and HC more than a few trades but it may come to that … I sure wish KCP would shoot more .. and move through the defense like Rip used to … this standing around at the 3 point line while the whole team ignores him makes me sick … 4 on 5 .. That is on Cheeks ..

  • Dec 30, 201310:25 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Not saying its all Billups but he looks horrible at the PG…he’s making bad passes, and he’s not making or taking good shot selections
     
    Jennings is the only player we have that can create any kind of offense with this team….
    I don’t understand as a coach how you don’t ride the hot hand and find creative ways to get guys looks

    • Dec 31, 201312:23 am
      by ZekeKhaseli

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      Agree with your point but its bynum occupying the PG position Billups is played as SG. Jennings with Billups not too big of a deal. Bynum with Billups= disaster

  • Dec 30, 201310:26 pm
    by jacob

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    Exactly our starting sg needs to score dribble penetrate and move without the ball. This is not the only problem. Joe d should be scared right now. He is as close as you can be to getting fired.

    • Dec 30, 201311:17 pm
      by Max

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      Guys in Afghanistan should be scared.  Dumars has a great life and I doubt is as motivated by not getting fired as some suggest.  It is certainly nothing to be scared by.   He’s probably got enough to retire on but even if he didn’t, if he ever gets fired he will instantly move to the very top of any open GM job and take another such position if he wants it.     

  • Dec 30, 201310:42 pm
    by picknroll

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    Wow!!  Josh Smith made a great case for “shoulda not been benched last game”.  19 shots put up and just 6 went in the basket!!  Oh, and he had 4 turnovers!!  But he still takes more shots than anyone else on the team and plays the most minutes!!  UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

    • Dec 30, 201311:53 pm
      by Otis

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      He also had six assists and is constantly playing out of position. I don’t want to bend over backwards defending the guy, but this team’s problems run much deeper than one person… unless that person is Joe D.

    • Dec 31, 201312:40 am
      by Vic

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      Yeah lets trade Monroe instead! 
      I can’t wait till we trade Monroe so that Smith can do the same thing he did in atlanta playing with a sharpshooting 3 in Kyle Korver and a solid big in Al Horford… “takeover” games with his long jumpshots… 
      He did so well Atlanta was bending over backwards to keep him. Glad we got him now… Get rid of Monroe so Josh can do his thing unhindered! 
       

      • Dec 31, 20131:16 am
        by Otis

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        I have serious doubts that Monroe could play very effectively alongside Drummond, with or without Smith. Before they went into free agency I was openly skeptical about the pairing, and felt that even a strong three point threat at SF wouldn’t be enough to spread the floor if Monroe couldn’t hit a jumpshot. So adding Smith was insanely idiotic if we’re married to Monroe, but being married to Monroe would be insanely idiotic unless he and Drummond proved a strong pairing, which has not happened. Sometimes you happen to luck into two good centers close together in the draft and have to pick one.

        • Dec 31, 20131:26 am
          by Vic

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          Monroe goes great with Drummond

          • Dec 31, 201312:12 pm
            by Otis

            LOL I don’t think anyone capable of using a computer could actually believe that. You’re just making yourself look ridiculous. They complement each other like a wet sack of shit complements a used tampon.

        • Dec 31, 20136:39 am
          by jg22

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          I think you might be right on neither being the right fit next to Drummond. If it does prove true, I think going small at that position with a scoring stretch SF might be the best fit with him.
           
          Hear me out for a second. I would argue that we maybe had our best success as an offense with CV next to Dre spreading the court. Now of course I don’t want CV longterm, but if that represents the type of player that fits best, what about a suped-up version of him in Carmelo?
           
          Remember when we started winning with Cliff next to Big Ben, and we knew he wasn’t the answer to a championship, but also knew that type of big man was what best complimented Ben. So we went out and got a suped up version in Rasheed,
           
          I think a Drummond/Carmelo pairing up front could be something special. Get another sharpshooter at SF and SG, with Jennings at PG. We can run pick/roll with Dre/Jennings and the court will be super spread. We can run pick/pop at the 3 pt line with Jennings/Melo. Just so many options. And at 6-8, 240 Melo isn’t even tha undersized to play PF and he’s a great post player so we wouldn’t miss Smith or Monroe’s post ability.
           
          I think Joe needs to find a way to get Carmelo here. This current construction may have reached its peak.

          • Dec 31, 201312:17 pm
            by Otis

            1) There is no such thing as a “stretch SF.” Other teams just call that a “regular SF.” By definition, a SF is supposed to be able to shoot the ball and therefore stretch the floor. We’re just the only team backwards enough to start a PF at SF because we start two Centers at the power positions. And we’re terrible, so it’s working out real nice for us.
             
            2) Carmelo is not the answer. He’s not the answer to any question actually, unless it relates to jersey and ticket sales. We don’t need another inefficient volume shooter. Oh, and we can’t possibly lure ‘Melo away from NY.
             
            3) Please stop wasting bandwidth on ridiculous ideas like this and maybe instead offer suggestions that contribute something to the discussion?

  • Dec 30, 201310:44 pm
    by sebastian

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    Piston Pals: The time to make a trade and/or fire Mo’ is now, no later than tomorrow, because with six days before OUR next game on Jan. 5th against the Grizzlies, a mini-mini camp can be installed with newly acquired players and/or a new coach.

    Wake the f@ck up Joe and get your azz to work!

  • Dec 30, 201311:10 pm
    by Jacob

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    This team is sorry and if no moves are made, then unfortunately this team will become impossible to watch. So sad but Joe D probably should have been fired after last season.  How long will these shitty rosters be tolerate?
     

    • Dec 30, 201311:54 pm
      by Otis

      Reply

      Joe should have been fired once a day every day for the past four years at least.

  • Dec 30, 201311:54 pm
    by Otis

    Reply

    Your Detroit Pistons, ladies and gentlemen.

  • Dec 31, 201312:23 am
    by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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    Come on Pistons!.. How in the world are we losing to the weak ass Wizards man…Dumars needs to get this team a good back-up 3…Putting Singler in the game only makes us worst, especially at the end of the game…I’m also starting to think we should think about calling the Pelicans about E. Gordon…

    • Dec 31, 20131:05 am
      by gmehl

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      I disagree with you about Singler. He has played pretty good this year. He has been rebounding well and runs the floor really well finishing many a fast break. For a second round pick I think his return as a player has been more than we’er paying him. He is not the problem so I think you need to find a new whipping boy.

      • Dec 31, 20131:59 am
        by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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        I agree, he’s a decent player for a 2nd round pick…But his defense is awful man!..No way should we bench Monroe or Drummond for Singler…No way at all man!..

        • Dec 31, 20136:03 am
          by gmehl

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          I never said that Monroe or Drummond should be benched in favour of Singler. You just seem to always to be ranting on Singler which I feel is unwarranted. Singler is a glue guy… nothing more nothing less.

          • Dec 31, 201312:19 pm
            by Otis

            Your first mistake was in attempting to have a conversation with Jodi Jezz.

    • Dec 31, 20139:00 pm
      by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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      Hahaha, Otis you’re lame…Please stop responding within my conversations , you look desperate for attention…

  • Dec 31, 201312:27 am
    by ZekeKhaseli

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    They led by nine entering the fourth, but the Wizards went on an 11-0 run to take an 89-87 lead, leaving the Pistons scrambling to find control yet again.

    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131230/SPORTS0102/312300087#ixzz2p1ex8RCK
     
    Guess, who are the guard combos. Of course, Will Bynum and Chauncey Billups. Listen Mo, you can just use Billups as PG and play either Caldwell Pope or Singler as SG. Bring back Pepey just don’t play Bynum. It happened before, its gonna happen again

  • Dec 31, 201312:36 am
    by microjfox

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    We have to trade and soon. I think Smith can still be effective, but not at the 3. He has been a nightmare for teams this season at that position and it has opened up Drummond. Eric Gordon is a NO. He has been very injury plagued and there is no reason to think that it will stop. IF we could get Tyreke Evans or Ryan Anderson (with Austin Rivers) I would be with that. Reke can atleast dribble penetrate. I’m pretty sure they would never trade him, but we do have some expiring contracts to get rid of and they need that extra piece. If not Tobias Harris and Afallo looks like the only other viable option. IF we can get Monroe out and add some shooting or dribble penetration this team could gel. I’m not sold on Cheeks being able to get that done. I think moving Monroe seeing how the season goes and then finding a better X and Os coach we could make some noise. Dumars really messed this up bad. I do like Jennings development though. It’s hard to unlearn 4 years of being the only person on the team that can make shots. As of now, we are fugged.

    • Dec 31, 201312:55 am
      by Jodi aka "The Guru"

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      Would you change your mind about E. Gordon if the Pelicans added a 2016 1st rounder to the deal for insurance?..
       

      • Dec 31, 201312:19 pm
        by Otis

        Reply

        NO. Stop talking about Eric Gordon already.

    • Dec 31, 20134:44 pm
      by PistonFanSinceDay1

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      Some forget that we had McDyess on our team a couple of seasons ago. Prior to playing with the Pistons, he too had seasons riddled with injuries and he did just fine playing with us.

      • Jan 3, 20143:07 am
        by Max

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        I don’t know if Dice has really been forgotten but the Pistons just signed him to a reasonable contract so he was low risk.   The equivalent here would be if the team had traded its second most valuable trade commodity for him and you can take your pick among the five starters for who that was but it’s just not a comparable situation.   Trading Monroe for Gordon has the potential to be a disastrous loss that could destroy the team’s potential whereas Dice could have gone down and the Pistons might have been going to conference finals anyway.  

  • Dec 31, 201312:46 am
    by Vic

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    Every single player who scored in this game for the Pistons: had more points than shots - Except Smennings.
    In the first half, they led the team in assists. The Pistons dominated. 
    In the second half, they led the team in shot attempts. They collapsed.
    5 minutes of Bynum/Billups “triggered” this loss. But its not the reason for the loss. The responsibility lies with Smennings and their “takeover mode” where they don’t pass the ball.
    The rest of the team watches them because they know its time to be docile, the “stars” are “taking over.”
    That’s the story of the season. Birdbrained basketball mixed with tremendous talent.
     

    • Dec 31, 20135:32 am
      by jg22

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      I don’t think that’s accurate. Smith/Jennings weren’t trying to play hero ball. They were trying to get others involved but everyone else was just standing around doing nothing, either not moving to get open, or not scoring either when given the ball. So if the young players wanted to just take the 4th qtr off for the night again, Smith/Jennings had to take it upon themselves being the veterans to try and do SOMETHING to keep us in the game.
       
      Fans only see them shooting, but I guess weren’t paying attention the prior possessions when they were trying to get others involved and no one else wanted the ball or fumbled it away.
       
      Monroe and Drummond need to grow up and start doing more in the 4th. I’ll give Drummond a pass being only 20 and his first full season as starter going through these close games, but no excuse anymore for Monroe. This guys shrinks like a penis in cold water come crunch time. I can’t think of one game in his career that he came through in crunch time and won for us. Not only that, but he’s generally nowhere to be found period on either end. I don’t know how to look up 4th qtr scoring stats, but I bet Monroe would be one of the worst in the league for his career in the 4th qtr. Its really time they do something about this. Either bring him off the bench or trade him, but I’m tired of his slow big body taking up space in the paint and stagnating the offense late in games. 

      • Dec 31, 20135:39 am
        by jg22

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        If he can’t even handle the pressure of the 4th qtr in a regular season game, would you trust him on the court late in a game 7 of a playoff series? 
         
        Hail No!
         
        Everything about Monroe is not conducive to winning. If you had to identify 3 reasons why we are losing, it would be 1) Bad defense 2) Bad FT shooting 3) Poor execution in crunch time. Monroe is problem in all 3 areas. 
         
        Smith and Jennings aren’t perfect in those areas either, but at least Smith plays defense and Jennings makes big shots in crunch time. These two have lead us to more wins this year in 33 games than Monroe has in 4 years. Fans need to stop scapegoating the wrong players, because if I recall correctly we were much worse last year withou them, with just Monroe leading the charge. So why anyone would want to return to those days, who knows.

      • Dec 31, 20135:41 am
        by jg22

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        If Monroe can’t even handle the pressure of the 4th qtr in a regular season game, would you trust him on the court late in a game 7 of a playoff series? 
         
        Hail No!
         
        Everything about Monroe is not conducive to winning. If you had to identify 3 reasons why we are losing, it would be 1) Bad defense 2) Bad FT shooting 3) Poor execution in crunch time. Monroe is problem in all 3 areas. 
         
        Smith and Jennings aren’t perfect in those areas either, but at least Smith plays defense and Jennings makes big shots in crunch time. These two have lead us to more wins this year in 33 games than Monroe has in 4 years. Fans need to stop scapegoating the wrong players, because if I recall correctly we were much worse last year withou them, with just Monroe leading the charge. So why anyone would want to return to those days, who knows.

        • Dec 31, 201312:20 pm
          by Otis

          Reply

          We definitely agree on this. Greg Monroe is a waste of time. He’s not a winner, not a leader, not the answer. I hate his guts.

    • Dec 31, 201311:36 am
      by Vic

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      The problem is the gameplan changes in the 4th quarter. It’s not that Monroe and Drummind suddenly forget how to catch a pass. It’s that they don’t get as many passes because the 4th quarter offense is based on isos for Smennings…
       

  • Dec 31, 20133:59 am
    by microjfox

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    NO, I think that a draft pick in 2016 would be too little too late. This is a franchise that needs to get some momentum.

    • Dec 31, 20136:09 am
      by gmehl

      Reply

      Also NO will be a really good team by 2016 so you can only imagine what that pick will be. If Davis stays on the path he’s on now it might fall in the late teens.

  • Dec 31, 20134:12 am
    by microjfox

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    I do thing luol Deng is the absolute best situation. Monroe can replace an aging boozer and Deng still has enough years on his body for a 4 year contract. He spreads the floor and is good in the locker room. Send the villanueva and stucky for the contract dump And we take gibson as a back up to jennings. Joe D let me execute this.

    • Dec 31, 20136:15 am
      by gmehl

      Reply

      Gibson as a backup to Jennings??? Ok since when did Gibson become a PG?

    • Dec 31, 20137:14 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      No…Dead stays hurt

    • Dec 31, 20138:19 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      Deng stays hurt we would regret it right away…

  • Dec 31, 20138:33 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    About Josh smith as much as people make of this Jumpers last night he was attacking the basket…he missed shots that he can normally make…
    i like the pick and roll with Jennings and Smith no hesitation attacking the rim…I havent seen that before with them that consistent, and they should not abandon it…
    its like they took a page from the Clipper play book…
    but it only works when Greg or Drummond in the line up… I watching with the cousin, the floor has wonderful spacing with singler,Pope and Jennings in the line up…
    And early i thought Cheeks did a pretty good job with his rotation…but the 2nd unit outside of Singler gave us nothing onto of that we missed 14 FTs….
    I’ve been saying it all year, for this to work Greg goes to the bench…and the combination of Greg,Dre and Smith…should never all be on the floor at the same time….
     

    • Dec 31, 201312:29 pm
      by Otis

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      The thing about Smith is that he’s more aggressive than he is smart. He charges in, guns-a-blazing and takes a lot of dumb shots. Monroe has the opposite problem. Hes too hesitant and defers too much. I have less of a problem with Smith’s approach, because at least he’s TRYING to put the team on his back and will them to victory. Monroe just plays like a scared kid who would rather be invisible than make mistakes trying to win the game. It’s sort of like he knows the team is going to lose and he doesn’t want to be in the spotlight when it happens. He’s a loser. Neither profile is ideal, but I think you’re more likely to rein in the gunner than turn the frightened loser into a leader.

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