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Andre Drummond ensures Pistons win Brandon Jennings’ return to Milwaukee, get third straight victory

Detroit Pistons 105 Final

Recap | Box Score

98 Milwaukee Bucks
Greg Monroe, PF 31 MIN | 6-15 FG | 6-6 FT | 17 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 18 PTS | +9If you throw out a terrible second quarter where Monroe missed all three of his shots and grabbed just two rebounds, he piled up 16 points and 15 rebounds in three quarters. Most of those struggles came against the Bucks’ big lineup of Ekpe Udoh and John Henson, and they’re both looong and athletic — Monroe’s primary kryptonite.
Josh Smith, SF 42 MIN | 6-19 FG | 4-5 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 2 TO | 17 PTS | +8Smith struggled again tonight offensively, forcing up way too many long jumpers. This isn’t a recording, but that’s still a product of playing small forward and being around the perimeter. He needs to use his size as an advantage against other small forwards more. If you can’t shoot over them, muscle them a bit.
Andre Drummond, C 38 MIN | 8-13 FG | 8-14 FT | 19 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 3 BLK | 2 TO | 24 PTS | +17We might be seeing the start of something here with Drummond. The guy’s just so productive, and he’s so low maintenance at that. He’s grabbed 56 rebounds in his last three games. The more the Pistons feature him offensively, the better they’ve gotten — coincidence? The big man also went 8-for-14 from the line, which is an, uh, improvement.
Brandon Jennings, PG 42 MIN | 4-16 FG | 7-8 FT | 2 REB | 11 AST | 3 STL | 1 BLK | 6 TO | 17 PTS | +15Early in the game, it was Brandon Jennings vs. the City of Milwaukee. Once he got that out of his system, he looked pretty good. Chemistry is obviously building between Jennings and his teammates, specifically Drummond. That’s great, but there were also two instances of Jennings leaving his feet to pass — and legitimately having no clue where to go once he got up there — but outside of his shooting, he was productive in his return.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG 28 MIN | 3-6 FG | 0-2 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | +7Stats won’t show it, but Caldwell-Pope was great defensively tonight. He really made life tough for OJ Mayo and Gary Neal, as well as hitting some shots (including a pair of 3-pointers) on his own.
Josh Harrellson, PF 3 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -4Harrellson missed some bunnies in the second quarter when Milwaukee went to their zone. If the Bucks’ long, athletic defenders bothered Monroe, imagine how much they bothered Jorts?
Jonas Jerebko, PF 7 MIN | 0-1 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -3Slowly, Jerebko is sneaking his way back into the rotation. As long as he does the little things out there — rebound, defend — and avoids forcing the issue on offense, he’ll stick around and get some minutes.
Kyle Singler, SF 21 MIN | 5-6 FG | 3-3 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 15 PTS | -9Well, well, it looks like Singler found his jump shot. It was tough to watch him struggle early this year, but he did everything else he needed to do to maintain Maurice Cheeks’ trust. If he can shoot it consistently, he’s going to be very valuable to the Pistons.
Peyton Siva, PG 4 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -4He committed a charge and otherwise just chased Luke Ridnour around. At this point, Siva just isn’t ready to play.
Rodney Stuckey, SG 25 MIN | 1-8 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 4 PTS | -1It’s crazy to think that Contract Year Rodney Stuckey is capable of an off-night, but tonight he struggled. For all he lacked offensively, he played decent defense and moved the ball.
Maurice Cheeks
Similar to Monroe, if you forget about the Pistons’ struggles in the second quarter, he did a pretty good job. Detroit’s defense was great in the third quarter, which is where the Pistons out-scored the Bucks 35-17. It seems like he’s making an effort to feature Drummond more on offense, which is good. It’s just he can’t find a way to keep Smith from floating around the 3-point line constantly, that’s bad. You’ve also got to give him some credit for sticking with Singler throughout his slump; it’s paid dividends the past two nights.

74 Comments

  • Dec 4, 201311:30 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Is Drummond the first pistons to get A+ grades from different writers in the same week

  • Dec 4, 201311:32 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    The Pistons are clicking….. we are only going to get better because I believe Josh Smith has another level he can take his game with this team

    • Dec 5, 201310:07 am
      by TheBigS

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      I agree. If J Smoove can learn not to take long 2s and 3s and that he can take smaller SFs into the paint, this Pistons team could be a lot better. Drummond and Moose are playing well, Singler is finally hitting threes, and Jennings and Stuckey (even though he had an off night) are playing good basketball. We are finally seeing the Pistons play like they can and should be playing every night.

  • Dec 4, 201311:42 pm
    by Brigs

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    maybe just maybe this is the beggining of a nice run something like 10-3? Idk but we are starting to win games that we should and hopefully that means that the team is starting to gel and we are witnessing what this team is capable of. Optimism baby say it with me Otis

    • Dec 5, 20138:01 am
      by Turns

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      Nah, that jackass is happier bitching about everything.  His world would collapse if he started to root for and enjoy this team.

    • Dec 5, 20138:33 am
      by mixmasta

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      I think he is a fan of Dan, not of the Pistons.

  • Dec 4, 201311:48 pm
    by elucke22

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    Jennings is definitely improving with this team but he drives me crazy with his floaters.  If he just pulled up short for a jumper, his percentage would increase.  Also, leaving your feet with no one to pass to is hard to watch.  You’ll never see a true point guard do that.

    • Dec 4, 201311:52 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      He is a true pg…. just a not. Perfect on

    • Dec 5, 201312:12 am
      by jamesjones_det

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      Funny I watched Chris Paul leave his feet to make a pass against OKC a couple weeks ago (though it wasn’t picked but it was tipped).  It happens sometimes as long as it’s not every game I’m OK with it a little bit.
       
      Jennings was trying to hard this game and made some dumb mistakes and took some bad shots but he still did some positive things to help the team. 

  • Dec 5, 201312:05 am
    by jamesjones_det

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    Good win overall, still wish Josh would think before shooting but it’s hard to complain when they are winning.  Anytime you win back to back away games it is an impressive feat, I’ve seen better teams drop games in this situation.
     
    Good win, can’t wait for the games this weekend.

  • Dec 5, 201312:30 am
    by elucke22

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    Agreed.  I’m liking him more and more.  As the season goes on I believe he’ll become a much more efficient point guard, just not there yet.  So happy to have him over Knight after watching him try to run an offense.  I’ll take Jennings leaving his feet any day.

    • Dec 7, 201311:29 am
      by T Casey

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      Though, being fair, Jennings is trying to run an offense under Mo Cheeks with likely help and guidance from Chauncey Billups as well. Knight was trying to run an offense under Lawrence Frank with the guidance of…

  • Dec 5, 201312:46 am
    by frankie d

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    pistons are winning despite josh smith.
    is there a dumber player in the league?
    i don’t think so.  teams bait him to take long 2′s and 3 pointers and he is so weak minded that he cannot help himself.
    sorry, not getting on the bandwagon.
    as long as the team has it’s two worst shooters taking the most shots each game, i predict disaster.  
    watching drummond and monroe do what they do only makes it worse.
    what if…
    dumars had realized that maximizing the talents of those guys was the most important thing to do last off season….
    instead, he brings in 2 guys whose presence takes away from what should be the team’s huge, huge advantage, every game of the season.
    nice to see a couple of wins, but the main systemic problem aint going anywhere…until joe d decides to move smith.  which is about as likely as my long jumping to the moon in the next hour.

    • Dec 5, 20137:28 am
      by Corey

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      Jennings is a huge upgrade over Knight. Rip on JoD for Smith all you want, but claiming that trading BK for BJ wasn’t an improvement is silly. This team would be terrible with Knight running the point. And Jennings is doing it for over 40 mpg while Will and Chauncey are out. That’s valuable.

      • Dec 5, 201311:53 am
        by ZekeKhaseli

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        Dumars is right on trading Knight with Jennings. That was not an easy move btw knowing how popular and in denial some of the pistons fans regarding that issue. Jennings is human which makes sense if he commits 6 TO after playing back to back 40+ night. Take care

      • Dec 5, 20134:45 pm
        by frankie d

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        Where did i ever claim that?  That is a seperate issue.  Common sense says that teams that end up being inefficient are going to have problems.
        Jennings is obviously better in some ways, but in other wsys he is much worse.  Knight was a good to better  than average defender.  He was willing and intense.  Jennings is a horrible defender who makes it worse by constantly gambling.  Physically there are few PGs who cannot abuse him.
        He obviously is more versatile offensively and a much better passer.  However, his nonstop chucking will ultimately have a hugely negative impact.
        There is good and bad in the trade.  On balance i would have not made the trade, kept everyone, drafted burke and let my team mature internally.  We will see if things work out.

    • Dec 5, 20139:16 am
      by Vic

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       I actually agree. I don’t think Smith is hopeless, but it’s true that a smarter 3 point shooting SF like Trevir Ariza would be even better. The biggest benefit for Josh Smith is as a backup 4, and a Lebron slower downer in the playoffs.
      Drumroe >>>> Smennings
      I said this from the beginning, if Smennings can commit to a support role for Drumroe, this team can go very far.

    • Dec 5, 20134:03 pm
      by Cornelius

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      Jsmove is doing the little all of you are forgetting.  block shot, defense and running the floor.  I he is hitting a few three’s, I can live with those 25 feet jumper any day.

    • Dec 5, 201310:05 pm
      by Max

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      Jennings takes too many bad shots but he is still worlds better at contributing to the Pistons’ bigs play because he can actually pass.  Any comparison between Knight and Jennings must consider this as the primary issue.  Also, although Jennings has been a bit too turnover prone this season, he is usually very good at taking care of the rock and Knight can’t even dribble.   Nothing to equivocate over here as Jennings is the superior player and he’s head and shoulders above Knight so it’s not even worth discussing.  

  • Dec 5, 201312:49 am
    by Darin

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    Good game tonight. Drummond was a beast again. Finally starting to gel. Go pistons!

  • Dec 5, 20131:11 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Jennings is making it happen…. with basically only one consistent outside shooter and still give the team 8-10 ast pet game…even tho teams are packing the paint…give the kid credit

  • Dec 5, 20131:29 am
    by Willy

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    Just happy seeing the win column about to hit double figures and not worrying about the lottery. This time last year the season was basically over so for now I’m just enjoying the Andre Drummond show

    • Dec 5, 20131:33 am
      by Otis

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      There would be no need to worry about the lottery anyways, if you were paying attention. Charlotte gets our pick this year as long as it’s not in the top 8, which pretty much guarantees it’s theirs. And this isn’t good news.

      • Dec 5, 20134:20 am
        by Willy

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        Yeah I have been paying attention, just not thinking about losing as much as the last couple of years. Enjoying what this team has instead of what it has not even though its not perfect atleast there are some players to be excited about and potential to fill in the gaps with cap space available at the end of the year. So for me the glass is half full and still filling

        • Dec 5, 20131:30 pm
          by Otis

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          Quick follow-up: You say we’ll fill the gaps with cap space and your glass just keeps on filling and filling, but the notion that this team can just treat this season as a stepping stone and just ADD from here is a myth. Stuckey and Monroe have cap holds that will cripple our flexibility by eating up literally all our cap space until they’re renounced or resigned. Stuckey is unrestricted, and chances are he’s going to get an offer we can’t afford to match. He’s pretty much been our best player so far, and I don’t quite see how you’re going to get this vast improvement by subtracting your best player and getting nothing in return for him. And if you end up bringing both of these guys back, then you’ll have no cap space to work with. You’ll just have exceptions to spend on any new additions, and I don’t think that’s going to be enough to give our perimeter the makeover it badly needs. This is a serious problem that’s been flying under the radar, and it needs to be addressed.

          • Dec 5, 20134:51 pm
            by Willy

            In the past four drafts we’ve added three players that are going to be solid pieces, knight was flipped for Jennings which no matter which way you look at it is an upgrade, a better player or trade piece. If we can’t play .500 ball or better in the east with a core of Drummond, Monroe, Smith, Jennings and stuckey off the bench with KCP coming along nicely then we probably never will. After the last few dismal years  there’s reason for optimism with a solid young core and tradable  assets. I know it’s not perfect but atleast it’s heading in the right direction and instead of waiting for the draft like this time last year I’m hoping for finals

          • Dec 5, 20135:44 pm
            by oats

            @Otis. I think it’s pretty obvious that Drummond is the best player. That aside, where Stuckey ranks on the team is not that relevant to discussing how harmful letting him walk is. Stuckey is a good 6th man. Losing that kind of player for nothing is far from ideal, but it’s not some crisis. Similar players leave their teams without that team getting compensated all the time. It really isn’t a huge loss. If Stuckey won’t agree to a quick and reasonable new contract then the team will renounce him and it won’t be that big of a deal.

          • Dec 5, 201310:11 pm
            by Max

            @Otis  Do you have any memory of the Pistons signing Billups with the exception?   Stop acting as if the exception is useless.  Try to remember that perimeter players don’t cost nearly as much as the bigs and that the starting bigs are covered for years to come whether Monroe resigns or not.  
            Also, Oats is right when he says that Drummond is the team’s best player and, even if Stuckey has been the second best player, the next four best players after Drummond (Jennings, Monroe, Smith and Stuckey) are neck and neck or 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D so it’s not a good argument to say the Pistons’ limited success this year is so tied to Stuckey.  

      • Dec 5, 201310:05 am
        by Huddy

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        yeah there’s no way the pistons could be in the bottom 8…unless they continued to lose, which is what Willy specifically was expressing that he was happy to see not happening (not to mention one can worry about being bad enough to be in the lottery whether the  teams keeps it’s pick or not)

  • Dec 5, 20131:51 am
    by Javell

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    Everyone tweet #nbaballot and andre drummonds name and vote him for the allstar game

  • Dec 5, 20133:35 am
    by Success4siva

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    Can we put siva in the d-league pleaseeeee

    • Dec 5, 201311:36 am
      by majed

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      i agree that he needs more playing time with lesser competition. but with billups and bynum both injured we need a backup PG

  • Dec 5, 20135:38 am
    by @GPMasters

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    I’m confident that Dre will get selected into the All Star game by the coaches. All the better if he is voted in as a starter. Lack of a defined “Center” slot may work against him in the voting though.

    • Dec 5, 20139:58 am
      by TheBigS

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      Dre clearly deserves to be an all star. 56 rebounds in 3 games is absolutely incredible. I dont know who did it last or how long ago they did it but it for sure hasn’t happened in a while. Drummond is clearly the pistons best player right now. Their offense runs through him and even when it doesnt he still finds a way to get rebounds and putbacks. If he can become a 60%+ FT shooter, he could possibly become an all time great Center

      • Dec 5, 201312:10 pm
        by oats

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        Hmm, it’s happened a few times. Kevin Love gobbled up 64 boards in a 3 game stretch during the 2010-11 season, and he added another 17 in the game after that. Dwight Howard did it last year, and he followed it up with another 16 rebounds in his 4th game. Last year Nicola Vucevic had a 3 game stretch with 59, and later in the year he had another 3 game stretch with 56. It turns out that the second time he did it in April of last year was the last time I found. Admittedly I didn’t do the most exhaustive search. I kind of just looked at game logs of a handful of the league’s leading rebounders list. I was only going to check this year and last, but I went back an extra year for Love because I thought I remembered him having that ridiculous stretch in 2010-11. Still, the fact that Vucevic is the answer for the last guy to do it is all the proof I need that it takes more than just a strong 3 game stretch to make a guy an All Star.

        • Dec 5, 20136:47 pm
          by TheBigS

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          I wasn’t aware that it was that common and I thank you for your research. I know that more than 3 good games are needed to make an allstar, but my point was that if he can keep this up, he drserves to be on the AllStar team this year 

        • Dec 5, 201310:17 pm
          by Max

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          The three games are great and contribute to Drummond’s case but the more relevant factors take in his entire season thus far.  
          Here are the highlights of his current status among NBA players:
          1st in offensive rebounds
          6th in steals (especially awesome for a big)
          1st in field goal percentage
          2nd in rebounds per game
          1st in rebound percentage
          9th in PER
          6th in offensive rating
          6th in defensive win shares
          7th in win shares 
          Take that to ballot!  

  • Dec 5, 20136:08 am
    by greg

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    Just a little comment about the lottery balls. look at the standings. the east is so weak that the number 9 in the east could very welly select top 8 in the upcoming draft.

    • Dec 5, 20138:37 am
      by George

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      Greg, in the East, we are a playoff team right now.  Besides, I think our pick this year goes to Charlotte unless it is in the top-8 picks.

      • Dec 5, 201310:46 am
        by Tim Thielke

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        I’m guessing that was Greg’s point. That if the Pistons miss the playoffs, they are relatively likely to not give up their pick because of all the better teams out west.

        I disagree because I think the East-West lopsidedness will balance out a little by season’s end, but that seemed like the reason to bring up the lottery.

  • Dec 5, 20137:56 am
    by JIm

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    Do you think we’d improve if we used Josh Smith to a greater extent with the second unit – somewhat like we did with Adrian Dantley and Mark Agguire in days gone by?  Josh could play closer to the paint if Greg and Dre were not down there?

    • Dec 5, 20139:35 am
      by Vic

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      Yes

    • Dec 5, 201310:12 pm
      by jamesjones_det

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      I think so, I will probably get jumped on for this comment but I would much rather have Singlers movement with the starting 5 than Josh just standing at the 3pt line.  There are some obvious trade offs though and in the end may not make that big of a difference.  Plus it’s never going to happen but it would be nice to see Smith at the 4 most of the game instead of the 3.

  • Dec 5, 20138:13 am
    by Windy

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    Monroe and Dre played very good tonight…nice to see

    • Dec 5, 20139:36 am
      by Vic

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      Yes, they always play nice together, Monroe loves to pass, they complement perfectly

      • Dec 5, 201311:27 am
        by MIKEYDE248

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        You must not have been reading the posts here for the last year and a half.  All I keep hearing is that they can’t play together and Monroe needs to be traded.

        • Dec 5, 20131:33 pm
          by Otis

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          They would each have far better careers playing center on separate teams. Don’t be fooled.

        • Dec 5, 20131:51 pm
          by Vic

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          those posts are invalid, never mind them

      • Dec 5, 20131:32 pm
        by Otis

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        LOL this is cute.

    • Dec 5, 20133:10 pm
      by JHops

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      Also lets give Singler some love… He’s finally balling out there with the second unit with Stuck.  I smell a run coming folks…

  • Dec 5, 20138:34 am
    by mixmasta

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    Good game and good article. It’s been a while since a good report is put in.
    Kudos to you Brady!

  • Dec 5, 20139:12 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Detroit media and celebrities need to get behind Drummond 

  • Dec 5, 20139:42 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    As much as we complain about Josh shooting and yes it is very questionable at times….people look pass Greg and him not developing or consistently taking or making that 17 foot shot, if Greg could make that shot or was more willing to take that shot…Then smith could drive and post up more with Greg as a kick out option… 

    • Dec 5, 201311:29 am
      by MIKEYDE248

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      On the other hand Greg is playing within his abilities where Josh is not.

    • Dec 5, 201311:42 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      That’s my point…Greg lack of development is forcing smith to have to do more

      • Dec 5, 201311:57 am
        by ZekeKhaseli

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        Team moose vs team j smoove. Like em both, like big penguin waaaay better. Jennings distance second, you know you need an assist man in this team..

      • Dec 5, 201312:10 pm
        by MIKEYDE248

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        Why aren’t you complaining that Smith isn’t developing that shot instead?  He has had much more time to do so and obviously take much more of them.  I never heard people complaining that Shaq would never amount to anything because he didn’t have that shot.

        • Dec 5, 201312:41 pm
          by I HATE FRANK

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          Greg I’d not taking that shot at all… that’s the problem…make or miss he needs to take the shot

          • Dec 5, 20131:09 pm
            by MIKEYDE248

            Last year he was taking more outside shots and missing most of them.  I would rather have him keep taking the shots he is, then turn into a 30% shooter from outside like Smith.  Every team that plays against Smith baits him into taking bad shots and he keeps doing it.  Monroe is smart enough not take those shots and drives to the basket for the shots he feels more confortable with.  I don’t see a problem in that at all.
            Even Jennings is adapting his game to the team.  When he sees that his shot isn’t falling, he has because an assist machine.  If they could only get Smith to start playing within his skill set, this team should be greatly improved.

          • Dec 5, 20131:31 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

            The problem is it put more stress on the offense and it freezes the ball…

          • Dec 5, 20131:37 pm
            by Otis

            It is a MAJOR problem. He doesn’t take the shot, he just freezes and looks uncomfortable. He had all the time in the world on the one jumper he attempted last night, and it went about eleven feet wide. If you want Greg to “play within himself” that means playing center and not worrying about spreading the floor. If you want him to be a power forward, you can’t live with a second center who doesn’t have the skillset of a power forward. If this team were great and trampling its way through the league, you could live with these problems. Being that they’re a sub-.500 team who still don’t have a win against a good team that isn’t resting guys, you can’t afford to have Greg quit trying to be a power forward just because it’s not who he is. He either needs to do the things power forwards do or you need to trade him. We are still garbage, Mikey.

          • Dec 5, 20132:55 pm
            by MIKEYDE248

            So you want him to be more like Smith and be a 30% shooter, just so he fits into the power forward role.  Smith has been playing twice as long as Monroe and he still hasn’t done it.  Sure he takes a lot more outside shots, but he also still misses most of them.  I don’t see how that improves the team.  Other teams tempt Smith into taking those outside shots, because they know it’s in their best interests.  I’ll take the high percentage shots any day.

          • Dec 6, 201311:10 am
            by oats

            @ Otis. There are an awful lot of PFs that can’t shoot well. Sometimes they even start next to centers that don’t shoot well. It makes things a little more challenging, but it isn’t crippling. Most teams are perfectly capable of operating with 2 non shooters in the lineup. The problem in Detroit is that the 5 best players on the team are Drummond, Monroe, Smith, Stuckey, and Jennings. 4 of those guys can’t shoot, and that’s a problem.That doesn’t make Monroe ill suited to play PF though, it just makes it hard for Detroit to put together lineups that function well on offense at all. I see no evidence to suggest that a Monroe and Drummond pairing wouldn’t work quite well if the team had complimentary pieces around them.

        • Dec 5, 201310:42 pm
          by Max

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          I really don’t get the argument that Monroe doesn’t do the things power forwards do.  For one thing, there is no set way that power forwards play and there never has been.   Some play power forward like Dirk Nowitski and some play power forward like Dennis Rodman.   Monroe is a good rebounder and scorer inside and a better passer and thief than nearly any power forward.  These are things that power forward do and that you want your power forward to do.   Almost every player at any position brings flaws and strengths to a position in comparison to some kind of theoretical ideal and Monroe is no different.   I could argue just as well that Monroe is not a center because he doesn’t defend the rim or play above it but both arguments are wrongheaded.   The truth is that most bigs in the NBA are simply bigs these days as long as they are not too big or too small.  Monroe has great size for either position and there are arguments to be made on either side regarding what position is best for him.  Personally, I feel the ideal for him is to play whichever position is best for his team because the big who plays with Monroe needs to be a rim protecting shot blocker who can play above the rim.   On the Pistons, that means he’s best off playing power forward with Drummond at center and center with Smith at power forward since both players compliment him by being strong where he is weak.   
          Otis won’t answer me but I’ll throw out a question.   Do you really think Monroe would be better off at center while playing with a stretch four who can’t guard the rim or play above it than he is with Drummond?   I don’t because such a team wouldn’t be able to stop anyone from scoring inside at will.  

      • Dec 5, 201310:16 pm
        by jamesjones_det

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        If I look at Smith as a Piston only your point about Josh having to play outside of himself would be valid.  However if you look at what Smith has done almost his entire career in the NBA you would see he would be shooting just as many dumb shots at the 4 as he is currently at the 3.  Just ask anyone who has watched him play in the ATL.

        • Dec 6, 20139:11 am
          by MIKEYDE248

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          That was my point.  Monroe plays within his skill set.  Smith doesn’t.
          Monroe is an over 50% shooter where Smith is under 40% this year and around 45% for his carreer.

          • Dec 6, 201310:39 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            Dude how can smith play within himself….when him and Greg basically play the same game…someone between the two have to take jumpers… Greg needs too take more jumpers period. also if Greg takes more jumpers we still have a rebounding opportunity
             

  • Dec 5, 201310:34 am
    by apa8ren9

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    Good win.  The Pistons are exciting again.  We will get better as Pope continues to develop.  Looking long term, when is Mitchell going to get some run in the D league?.  Harrellson and Jerebko are getting those minor backup minutes and CV is an afterthought.   Mitchell needs some game action since they dont practice often in the regular season.  Also Jennings seems like he is really making an effort to be a good point guard and that has to happen fast so he can reign in Josh a bit.  Id like to see 7 point spreads in games like these become no doubters and 15 point wins.

    • Dec 5, 20131:40 pm
      by Otis

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      “Good win.  The Pistons are exciting again.”
       
      Ugh. They haven’t won a single game against GOOD competition. Let me count again, just to be sure… Ok yes I was right. Zero.

      • Dec 5, 20132:04 pm
        by Turns

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        So the win against the Heat doesn’t count.  Okay yes, you were wrong.

      • Dec 5, 20132:07 pm
        by mixmasta

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        Another quote from Otis Feldman!

      • Dec 5, 201310:28 pm
        by Max

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        Otis couldn’t be more wrong here and it’s entirely predictable that he would argue that the Heat are not a good team due to Wade sitting out.   I knew he’d be saying so as soon as I felt comfortable in the final minutes that the Pistons would win.   You see, Otis has been hammering the Pistons all year for their lack of a quality win and he’s not one to give up a bone.   Otis is more stubborn and narrow minded than dumb regarding basketball so I think he might be guilty of some intellectual dishonesty on this one.  
        The truth is that Heat have other good players besides Wade and LeBron but that LeBron himself is so good that any team he plays for is a good team.   Personally, I would make the claim that you could trade the best player on any team in the league for LeBron during the off season and the team that got James would win at least 50 games with him healthy.  
        50 win teams are all good teams so any team with James is good.  The Pistons beat a good team.  It’s that simple but I’d admit it doesn’t prove anything about the Pistons.   Even the 72 win Bulls lost to a Raptors team that was league worst so you can never make too much out of one regular season game.  

  • Dec 5, 201310:21 pm
    by OOtis

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    Pistons were awesome!  Monroe was great!  Another tough road win!

    • Dec 6, 20139:06 am
      by MIKEYDE248

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      I already like our new OOtis!!!

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