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Pistons throttle Bucks, inch closer to .500

Milwaukee Bucks 94 FinalRecap | Box Score 113 Detroit Pistons
Greg Monroe, PF 32 MIN | 5-10 FG | 6-8 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 16 PTS | +21Ho-hum night for Monroe, who just kind of did his job. He’s finding is spots, and he’s becoming more comfortable with the big lineup. His defense hasn’t been terrible the last two games, either. Underrated Note: if you take out that stinker in Los Angeles, Monroe is shooting 73 percent from the free throw line, his best since his sophomore season.
Josh Smith, SF 35 MIN | 4-10 FG | 2-3 FT | 7 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 10 PTS | +32Smith did the little things tonight, and that’s what you like to see. When the Pistons actually playing defense and forcing turnovers, it doesn’t pigeon hole him into chasing opposing small forwards all over. The more the Pistons force turnovers and get out on the break, the less he’ll be hypnotized into shooting long jumpers, too.
Andre Drummond, C 25 MIN | 6-10 FG | 0-0 FT | 8 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 12 PTS | +13The role that Drummond plays for this team isn’t a breathtaking one, but he somehow finds a way to make it look that way. It wasn’t his strongest game tonight, but when your teammates aren’t missing shots for you to gobble up and put back, that’s probably an alright problem to have.
Brandon Jennings, PG 36 MIN | 5-10 FG | 1-2 FT | 2 REB | 13 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 15 PTS | +15Jennings at halftime: “I think we’re up 30 right now so we’re going to try to push it up to 60.” That pretty much says everything about where his head was at tonight. He’s steadily improved on his propensity to shoot everything that’s open, and he’s actively looking for guys off screens; that’s exactly what he needs to do. His 3-point barrage in the first quarter set the tone for tonight’s bloodbath. He won the battle of the Brandons with former Piston, Brandon Knight — if you were interested.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG 36 MIN | 5-9 FG | 2-3 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 14 PTS | 0Caldwell-Pope’s made the progression from skittish to aggressive and it finally showed when his jumper dropped. He’s just looking so much more comfortable on the floor these days. The shot is going to fall more as the year goes on, and as long as the effort is there, he’ll be on the floor.
Tony Mitchell, PF 2 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | 0Nice dunk, rook.
Josh Harrellson, PF 9 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -10There’s a value to having Harrellson on the floor. He’s a space-eating rebounder, that’s nice to have. It’s also nice that he can make an open 3-pointer, but that should be more of an “oh crap, shot clock’s running down” shot, not an, “oh crap, Josh’s open” shot.
Jonas Jerebko, PF 5 MIN | 3-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 7 PTS | +1Jerebko had some nice clean-up baskets, and he brought energy. He’s probably next in line to get some legitimate minutes after this Productive Charlie Villanueva stretch fades.
Charlie Villanueva, PF 13 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 12 PTS | -4Speak of the devil. Is it possible Villanueva noticed how hard Stuckey is playing and realized, “Hey, if I want to get paid, I’ve got to be like that!” It’s worth mentioning that he Villanueva’d his way to five shots (four makes) in just six first-half minutes. When it rains, it pours.
Luigi Datome, SF 2 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0Datome didn’t contribute a whole lot, and until he works out that, “Can’t defend anything that moves” problem, he’s probably going to be stuck to the bench.
Kyle Singler, SF 2 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | +14After a quick stint in the first quarter, we never saw Singler again. MLive’s David Mayo reports Singler had a reaction to the contact lenses he usually wears during games and was prohibited from wearing them for a week. So, the eye discomfort kept him limited tonight.
Will Bynum, PG 13 MIN | 1-4 FG | 3-4 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 5 PTS | +1In Bynum’s defense, this was his first game since Nov. 15, but he really wasn’t great tonight. Didn’t have his shot, did have a nice alley-oop to Drummond, but otherwise it was a pretty forgettable night.
Rodney Stuckey, SG 30 MIN | 7-11 FG | 1-3 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 17 PTS | +12I vote that we just start calling him Rodney “#PayMe” Stuckey for the rest of his time in Detroit. Admittedly, it’s hard to fully buy into this productive, consistent version of Stuckey, but what are the chances he’s really putting it together for at least a year? Either way, Stuckey playing well is beneficial for both the Pistons and himself.
Maurice Cheeks
Perhaps Cheeks finally sat down and watched the tape of the Pistons best defensive quarters of the season — the second quarter versus Indiana and the third quarter against Brooklyn. This team had an identity on that side of the ball tonight. It’s worthing noting that Milwaukee is terrible. But, if you’re not going to be able to keep up with teams in the half court, you might as well play extremely aggressive and look to force turnovers as much as possible. The thing about these Pistons is that, while they don’t have the skill to play superb offense or defense in the half court, they do have athleticism and they do have players that are more than willing to get out on the break and get easy baskets. It looks like that’s something Cheeks has hammered into them. Force turnovers, get on the break and you don’t have to worry about spacing issues or ill-timed shots — that’s going to be this team’s winning formula going forward.

57 Comments

  • Nov 25, 201311:36 pm
    by haydzzz

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    Great game but can someone please tell George Blaha that a hammer dunk is not a windmill dunk, he said that on one of Drummonds dunks lol

  • Nov 25, 201311:49 pm
    by Jacob

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    They way the East looks right now, the Pistons could be the 4th seed by default. Even playing the way they are right now.

  • Nov 26, 201312:13 am
    by domnick

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    beat the bulls next game.. no d-rose :D
    but the next thing we have to do is to stay healthy…. we should stay healthy for the next 68 games…. and get to the playoffs!

  • Nov 26, 20131:00 am
    by anacaniwelk

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    Just like I said, even when Villanueva plays well Pistons Powered takes shots at him.  So petty, so childish.

    • Nov 26, 20131:17 am
      by Brady Fredericksen

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      tell him to string together 10 useful games and I’ll be happy to analyze his quick trigger finger more seriously.

      • Nov 26, 20131:42 am
        by anacaniwelk

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        “Useful?” How vague of you. Even if he met your arbitrary demands you’d spin it that he failed. You really don’t need to comment on CV anymore as your thoughts are so predictable and boring. You’re just a one-trick pony.

        • Nov 26, 20132:13 am
          by Vince

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          Have you not watched the Pistons over the past four years? Or are you CV in disguise? Seriously.
           
          Villanueva played terribly during his time in Detroit, and still having him around for me just reminds me of the horrible and tumultuous years we had. He didn’t play D, he didn’t show any effort, he wasn’t consistent on offense and didn’t rebound. When this Villanueva shows up to play its great, but this Villanueva only shows up once every 40 games.
           
          Brady is right, if Charlie makes himself useful this season when we need him than at least he can try and make up for the robbery he pulled in 2009. If you want a definition of a useful CV it would be to knock down open looks, shoot consistently and well from 3, rebound, defend, and generally play with energy and hustle. If CV does that for the remaining games and logs 10 or so minutes per game I’ll be happy, and I think most Piston fans would be too. Brady was right to criticize Charlie’s play, he rarely plays like this, and for that, he can cop some flak. CV may be every Pistons’ blog’s punching bag but at least its deserved. Dude was/is the most overpaid bench warmer in the League, so stop being so aggressive and quick to defend a player who is seen by many as the last remnant of the worst-era in recent Pistons’ history.
           
           

          • Nov 26, 201310:03 am
            by Huddy

            CV’s play doesn’t warrant anyone’s praise, but HE didn’t pull any robbery.  Giving him a contract was an organizational decision.  There isn’t a player in the history of basketball who would be offered a contract and say “no way guys I’m not going to be that good by any means, lets cut that in half at least.”  His effort has been lacking during his time in Detroit, but prior to his  contract he was never a particularly good rebounder, shot blocker, 3 pt shooter…or any of those things you might want to see before paying him what the team did.
             
            People do spend too much time holding on to the idea that every Piston needs every ounce of support and confidence regardless of their contribution.  I saw a lot of that with Austin Daye supporters whining about how much we would miss him and how under utilized he was on this team and here he is on another team playing the same garbage minutes and garbage basketball.  In support of the team I hope CV strings together enough useful games to be traded for something that will help the team.  Even 20 games of good production wouldn’t make up for 5 years of worthless play…his only remaining contribution can be to leave, preferably in exchange for something decent.

        • Nov 26, 20137:34 am
          by Corey

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          My vote is that anyone who wants to hate on CV is welcome to do so, until and unless he develops visible muscle tone anywhere on his body. Dude is obviously not working hard if you just look at him.

        • Nov 26, 20138:10 am
          by Turns

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          Totally silly that somebody is on here defending CV.  The guy is a total waste of space

        • Nov 26, 201310:51 am
          by MIKEYDE248

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          I agree that CV deserves all the pokes he gets and more, until he proves otherwise.
          Stuckey is the perfect example. He has been taking just as many flack as CV the last couple years, but if his play continues the way it is, that will be just a distant memory.
          To me, he’s like the Lion’s, just when you think they have turned the corner, they lose to the Buccaneers.

      • Nov 26, 20134:23 am
        by grizz3741

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        Brady … enjoy your sense of humor … and analysis … .. CV is fair game!!! always …

    • Nov 26, 20137:27 am
      by TheBigS

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      Have you not watched any of te last few years? Charlie V consistently does not hustle, only shoots, and is lazy on the court. He had so much potential and talent back when he was first signed but now he is mostly dead weight. 

  • Nov 26, 20131:07 am
    by jamesjones_det

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    Good to see KCP’s shot fall tonight.  I’ll need to see a few more games with him knocking down shots before I start to change my tone on his shooting but it was still nice to see him put together a nice shooting game.

    • Nov 26, 20131:44 am
      by anacaniwelk

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      Yeah, I was happy for Pope too.  He just needs to gets used to the NBA and the shots will start falling.

  • Nov 26, 20132:57 am
    by pistons moribund

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    hmmmm, big win against an awful team.  might have counted last year but doesnt mean much now.  Grading on a curve when you play the JV squad.  The bucks are the worst team the Pistons have played and it showed.  The only thing that happened is what should have happened.  No bandwagons please, the rain is about to start.

    • Nov 26, 20138:15 am
      by Turns

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      So you can’t even find anything good about a win?  You complain about bandwagon fans but then you’re the type of fan that isn’t happen unless you’re bitching about something.  Root for your team and enjoy the wins – it’s not like this team is going to win a title this year

  • Nov 26, 20134:04 am
    by @GPMasters

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    CHAMPIONSHIP NUMBER FOUR HERE WE COME !!!!111!!!1!

  • Nov 26, 20135:22 am
    by Big moose 4 life

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    How did Brandon knight look out there?

    • Nov 26, 20135:28 am
      by @GPMasters

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      Very muscular, but highly ineffective.

      • Nov 26, 20135:47 am
        by Vince

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        Hahahaha its funny ‘coz its true.

      • Nov 26, 20137:03 am
        by Tom Y.

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        He’s helping his team position itself for Andrew Wiggins though.

    • Nov 26, 20137:26 am
      by Derek AKA Redeemed

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      Knight looked really bad.  It was hard to look at. 
      Jennings looked like an assassin (4 threes in a row).  He was in the merc’ing his former time sort of mindset.  Everyone actually looked how I thought they would at the beginning of the season…well except for Singler (eye irritation limited him), Bynum (coming back from injury), Villaneuava (played surprisingly well).
      I love Josh Harrellson.  I was a fan of his when he was in college and when he was a Knick.  His grit and heart make him easy to pull for.
       

      • Nov 26, 201310:54 am
        by MIKEYDE248

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        I only got to watch a little bit of the game and was wondering about Singler’s sexy specks.

  • Nov 26, 20137:37 am
    by Corey

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    We definitely got the better Brandon. I’m starting to get hopeful about our new one- he really seems to be trying to find the shooting/passing balance of playing PG. if he gets it, he’ll be very good. Could be our first double-digit assist guy since Isaiah.

    • Nov 26, 201310:16 am
      by acr

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      Agreed – he’s top 10 in apg right now – it’s been awhile since we’ve had that.  His shot selection is still a bit wacky at times, but it does seem that he’s trying to find a balance.

  • Nov 26, 20137:43 am
    by Jopl

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    I gotta say, even though we played 2 bad teams, I’m pretty impressed by the Pistons.  Mostly the fact that we played a back to back, first on the road against a struggling Brooklyn team looking to prove something.  Then back home with a Bucks team that are looking to prove something.  It was obvious to me that BJ wanted to prove something to his old team and pumped up all the guys to play so hard.  Either way, entertaining game to watch, only wish we could have seen more garbage minutes to Datome & Mitchell.

    • Nov 26, 20131:29 pm
      by Otis

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      These teams have like five wins between them. If we can beat the Roseless Bulls I might read something into it.

  • Nov 26, 20138:55 am
    by stuckeyandwhoever

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    Pay me Stuckey just said I’m the leading scorer OFF THE BENCH!

    • Nov 26, 20139:10 am
      by anacaniwelk

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      Great to have a good scorer off the isn’t it.  Rodney Stuckey, NBA’s 6th Man of the Year!

      • Nov 26, 20139:14 am
        by anacaniwelk

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        Brandon Jennings has 73 assists in his last 7 games.  Doubt that’s been done by a Pistons point guard since Isiah Thomas.  Go Brandon!

        • Nov 26, 20133:25 pm
          by Tim Thielke

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          Billups got 78 in 7 games from 2/10/06 – 2/26/06 and then the next game made it 90 in 8 games.

      • Nov 26, 201311:04 am
        by MIKEYDE248

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        Could even win most improved player too.

  • Nov 26, 20139:32 am
    by Patti #1

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    Yes, the Pistons needed to win that game. But they didn’t just win it..,they killed it!  
     
    Confidence leads to better athletic performance and the confidence spread throughout the entire team.  Their defense was much better…not one on one, but switching and covering each other.  Their offense was aggressive but players relaxed enough to make good shots.  
    It was a symphony and just plain fun to watch.
     
    Go Pistons!

  • Nov 26, 20139:34 am
    by gmehl

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    I personally think Singler should of got an A+++ for those glasses he had to wear. I wonder if Kurt Rambis knows he borrowed them.

  • Nov 26, 20139:35 am
    by Patti #1

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    http://allstarballot.nba.com/?referrer=asb14_nbadrd&cid=asb14_nbadrd
     
    Don’t forget to vote for Pistons – all star ballot link above

  • Nov 26, 20139:39 am
    by Rich

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    How nice is it to watch Brandon Knight be incompetent for somebody else?

    • Nov 26, 20139:46 am
      by gmehl

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      I actually feel bad for him. The kid wasn’t a head case and worked his ass off while with the pistons. You never want to see former players kill us on the court but when it’s a guy like Knight I cannot bring myself to be happy that he is under performing. The kid just cannot seem to handle the rock and you have to ask yourself if it’s maybe just a lack of instinct thing. I mean if someone like CV had his work ethic we’d have one of the best stretch 4s to play in the NBA.

      • Nov 26, 20139:54 am
        by Rich

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        I like the kid, too.  He busted his butt when he was here, and I think he can be an okay 3 and D player off the bench.
         
        But he’s not a good athlete, he lacks upper body strength so his shot breaks down off the dribble, and he has no understanding of where and when to pass the ball due to lack of instincts (like you said).  And more than anything, he just can’t dribble!  How can a guy who has started at the PG for so many NBA games be so bad at just DRIBBLING the damn ball????  Token ball pressure makes him lose control, which happened last night just like it did over and over again as a Piston.
         
        I hope he puts it together, because he’s a good guy.  But from a purely watching my team standpoint, I’m elated he’s gone.

        • Nov 26, 201312:06 pm
          by Derek AKA Redeemed

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          Hi Rich.  It was hard for me to watch Brandon Knight struggle like that.  I’m pulling for the kid, it just looks like his career is snake bit in the early running.  He isn’t a natural at the PG position, but the way of the PG has changed so score first guys are running the show now.  Unfortunately he’s struggling with the pick and roll and naturally reading the D and orchestrating things for his team.
          He just does not have the pg “feel” right now.  As for his strength, dude was pumping some serious iron in the offseason.  It looks like the upper body strength is there.  He has the explosiveness to quick his way pass defenders and the hops to get up over guys.  He’s just a kid who is going to struggle his way up.
          I still believe he’s going to do well at some point.  Even if it doesn’t look like it now.  That is probably more wishful thinking because he’s such a high character guy.
           
           

    • Nov 26, 201310:09 am
      by TheBigS

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      Ya me too. He never lived up to expectations but I always liked his work ethic and effort he game. I think BJ is better because he shoots better, has more potential, and he is better on D

  • Nov 26, 201310:28 am
    by zdwtr

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    Jennings won a lot of new fans today. hope it doesnt get to his head too much

  • Nov 26, 201311:21 am
    by sebastian

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    The Rodney Stuckey Reclamation Project is in full effect. The dude is engaged and commanding his space on the floor. His jumper is pure and his defense has been aggressive. Credit: Mo’ and Chaunce and Rodney Stuckey, himself.
    I have written on the very Board, many times in the past about the abilities of the one, Rodney Norvell Stuckey and there have been a few others to maintain their confidence in this key component of the Pistons’ roster.
    But, to think that someone (either Vince or Otis) had the misguided belief to write that I had Rodney’s nuts so deep in my throat … yada … yada … yada!
    Don’t you kids know that WE are witnessing the beginning campaign of either the 2013-14 Most Improved Player of the Year and/or the 2013-14 Sixth Man of Year.
    Folks need to recognize!

    • Nov 26, 201311:56 am
      by @GPMasters

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      I’m a little more cynical and believe we are just seeing the beginning campaign for Rodney’s new deal.
      But I’m happy nonetheless.

      • Nov 26, 20134:42 pm
        by Gordbrown

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        People making a big deal about Rodney`s contract year. The first year of his contract, Stuckey improved (and in fact had improved every year up until that point). In fact, he put the team on his back and carried them for about six weeks (in a shortened season). Last year, he played hurt part of the season, got benched, and was criminally misused by a coaching staff that was absolutely clueless. It`s not so much his contract year as the fact that he has been given some love and put into a position to succeed for a change. Having better team mates around him has also helped of course.

    • Nov 26, 201311:56 am
      by MIKEYDE248

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      As much as we all appreciate how good Rodney is playing right now, it’s hard to shut off how bad he has been for the last couple of years.
      The big question is.  Will he be able to keep up the good play throughout the season and after he signs a new contract?  Most players have their best seasons during their last year of a contract.  Let’s just hope he can keep up this level of play for the long run or at least until the Pistons trade him.

      • Nov 26, 20134:48 pm
        by Gordbrown

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        Weird definition of a bad couple of years, which apparently means the first quarter of last season. Where were you in February and March of 2012? Obviously not watching the Pistons. Again, I know people blame Stuckey for the Billups trade and the Billups trade for all the tsuris of the Kuester/Frank years.  But let’s be reasonable.

        • Nov 27, 20131:12 am
          by oats

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          He was bad all of last year, not just the first quarter of last year. He had a handful of solid games, but not many. Yeah, he was good in February and March of 2012, but that was the season before last. In February and March of 2013 he was averaging about 11 points a game and 2.5 assists. That’s pretty darn bad, and more than enough proof that it was more than just the first quarter of last season that he stunk. I agree that it is only the one year that he was bad and not a few years, but he was really bad last year.

    • Nov 26, 201312:20 pm
      by TheBigS

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      I love the new and improved Stuckey but I still think our best bet is to trade him for a better shooter or draft picks. If we can get a good shooter to space the floor the Big 3 would have so much more room to work

    • Nov 26, 20131:41 pm
      by Otis

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      1) I don’t talk about people having anyone’s testicles in their mouth, so that must have been Vince.
       
      2) To his credit, the man is doing everything within his power to turn me into a Rodney Stuckey fan, but he has been a tremendous disappointment since the beginning of his sophomore year. Like, insanely disappointing. Joe gave him a good faith extension after a lackluster stint on his rookie contract, and he spent the first two years of it validating all the haters. Then he hits a contact year and suddenly he looks like Dwyane Wade. He looks like the guy Joe envisioned when he traded Chauncey over five years ago. This should give everyone mixed feelings, and what he’s doing doesn’t outright vindicate the people who’ve been his fans all along. Because “all along” he was not very good.
       
      3) This emergence poses a new problem. How can we possibly reap the benefits of his sudden emergence and get a return on all the money we’ve spent on the guy throughout his career? If he keeps this up, he’s going to command a larger annual salary than his current $8.5 mil. Also he is unrestricted. And if we plan to bring back both Stuckey and Moose, that’s the bulk of your offseason right there. And I don’t think anyone wants to see this exact same team come back without more spacers and shooting. A responsible GM with a long view would trade him at the deadline and cash him in, especially considering we aren’t winning a championship this year. Joe will probably keep him all year, and we’ll lose Stuckey for nothing when he signs somewhere else.

      • Nov 26, 20132:23 pm
        by MIKEYDE248

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        It’s hard to blame Joe for the Chauncey trade, because Stuckey looked like a poor mans Dwyane Wade in his rookie season.  You can blame him for the extension though. 
        I hope Joe’s smart enough to see that Stuckey is fools gold and the sooner he trades him the better.  I don’t really see him keeping up his current play for very long.  I feel that the longer they keep him the more it will hurt his trade value.  I don’t even want to think about re-signing him.  If his play goes back to what we’ve seen over the last couple of years, I think everyone will just be glad that he is no longer on the payroll, kinda like we are looking forward to the day that CV isn’t on the books anylonger too.

  • Nov 26, 201312:23 pm
    by Corey

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    Hopefully someone believes Stuckey has turned the corner and trades us something good for him. Hard to trust a guy who had never been consistent, but really turns it up in a contract year.

    • Nov 26, 20131:45 pm
      by Otis

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      I just don’t think it happens. If Joe had any job security at all, he just might have the brains to do that. Heck, if he wasn’t looking at a five year playoff drought… but he’s desperately trying to win as many games as humanly possible right now (even if it’s only 40) so he can foster the illusion of progress. He’s not the man for the job, and the result is probably that Stuckey plays out the season here and leaves in the offseason for nothing. We’ve had quite a few players who would have been good trade candidates, and Joe never made a move– and that was when the playoffs were a pipe dream. Now that the playoffs are within reach, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell Joe makes that move.

      • Nov 26, 20132:15 pm
        by Huddy

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        If Joe finds a good trade for Stuckey is doesn’t effect his job security.  I realize you have very little respect for Dumar’s GM IQ, but really you think he believes the team’s only hope at a playoff spot is to keep Stuckey despite his years of disappointment regardless of what is offered for him?  And he has come to this decision based on 10 games?
         
        Assuming Joe is worried about his job makes sense, but it is a stretch to assume Dumars believes the only chance the team has at a playoff push is with the current roster.  I guess you could say it would make his prior faith in Stuckey look like a poor decision, but he was willing to move Knight early in his career despite being a recent high draft pick and being a rather likeable guy for the fans.

  • Nov 26, 20136:01 pm
    by Ozzie-Moto

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    You can’t give Luigi a D for less then 2 min in garbage time where  he touched the ball once … Incomplete OK but come on then you try and say he didn’t show anything. The last game he had some real playing time he was 2/4 and played aggressive D  .

  • Mar 23, 20142:32 am
    by exercise for men

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    An interesting discussion is worth comment. I feel that you must write more on this topic, it won’t be a taboo subject but usually people are not sufficient to talk on such topics. To the next. Cheers

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