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Are the Pistons legit? Can they guard Paul George? Pacers will provide a good test tonight

Essentials

  • Teams: Indiana Pacers (3-0) at Detroit Pistons (2-1)
  • Date: November 5, 2013
  • Time: 7:30 p.m.
  • Television: FSD
  • Radio: 97.1 FM The Ticket

What to look for

The Pistons’ 2-1 start to the season is certainly preferable to the disastrous starts experienced under monsieurs Keuster and Frank over the past four seasons, but we’ve also yet to see how the Pistons new lineup looks against one of the league’s elite teams. Washington, for all of the positive ‘on paper’ predictions about the team this season, is currently an 0-3 team with significant defensive issues. Boston’s season … hmm … it’s going about as well as any season could go when you hand over the keys to your offense to Jeff Green and Brandon Bass. The Pistons had some good moments in their lone loss to the Grizzlies, the only team of their three opponents who looks like a potential playoff team, but Detroit’s relative inexperience playing competitive basketball showed as Maurice Cheeks was drastically out-coached down the stretch and the Pistons seemed to wear down late in the fourth quarter and overtime.

The undefeated Pacers are, by far, the best opponent the Pistons have faced so far and they’re a darkhorse candidate to make the NBA Finals if something drastic happens to the Heat. The Pacers are great defensively, they’re deep and, with apologies to the Bulls, they should win the NBA Central Division. But they’re also one of the team’s I’m most interested to see the Pistons match up against for one key reason: Paul George.

George has built on his breakout season a year ago, averaging more than 25 points and eight rebounds per game. In fact, he’s currently leading the Pacers in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals … truly Grant Hill-in-his-prime-esque numbers. He’s also improved off the dribble, which was the biggest knock on him coming into the league. From Jon Washburn of 8 Points, 9 Seconds:

As Miami ratcheted up the pressure in the Eastern Conference Finals, it became increasingly difficult for the Pacers to actually get into their offense. As great as George was, he had at least five turnovers in five of the seven games in that series. The Pacers’ lack of a reliable secondary ball handler/offensive initiator directly contributed to their inability to consistently exploit their advantages down low — one reason the Pacers ultimately lost the series.

That’s why the move George made late in the game against the Pelicans was so important.

Of course the Magic and Pelicans are nowhere near the caliber of the Miami Heat, but through two games, Paul George has shown a much better ability to not only take the ball and attack from the wing, but also create, a la LeBron James or Kevin Durant, from the top of the key. Unlike last year when most of his 3-pointers were of the catch-and-shoot variety, he has also shown the ability to create his own shot for himself, hitting several 3s over defenders near the end of quarters or possessions.

The Pistons have preached a renewed commitment to defense this season. Josh Smith has thus far lived up to his reputation as a defensive player. Rodney Stuckey, for the first time in his career, seems committed at that end of the court. Rookie Kentavious Caldwell-Pope has showed his college billing as a tough, committed defender should carry over to the NBA level. So for the first time in many years, the Pistons actually have the athletes on the wings to throw at the elite perimeter players in the league, a group that George is quickly ascending in.

If the Pistons can continue to play with the energy, intensity and defensive focus they’ve showed for three games and can play Indiana competitively, that will give a much better read on what the team is capable of this season.

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70 Comments

  • Nov 5, 20137:30 pm
    by lee

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    anyone know where i can live stream tonights game?

  • Nov 5, 20138:26 pm
    by gmehl

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    Geez we’re killing it from downtown 1 of 11 for a lazy 9.1%. I sure hope Datome can heat up from that area. He’s 0-3 but i’ve got faith in baby jesus https://vine.co/v/hjP7YK2OTFV

  • Nov 5, 20138:27 pm
    by T Casey

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    Would be nice to get a KCP sighting.

  • Nov 5, 20138:43 pm
    by haydzzz

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    imagine how much wed be winning by if we made some threes lol

    • Nov 5, 20138:54 pm
      by gmehl

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      Yep it’s gonna be our Achilles heel this season. I’m not watching the game live but I’d assume with moose on 3 fouls it will push Smith to PF which will at least keep him in the paint. I’m hoping one of Datome, Singler, Jennings or Billups gets hot from pt land… we need a big scalp!
       

  • Nov 5, 20139:01 pm
    by James

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    Monroe drives me crazy with his one in five decent post moves. Josh Smith obviously admired Dominique Wilkins, he shoots far too many jumpers out of the offensive flow.

  • Nov 5, 20139:03 pm
    by James

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    And Monroe is starting this Tayshaun style whining after every Damn play.

  • Nov 5, 20139:07 pm
    by E-Double

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    Did someone tell Josh that he’s the star of the team? Love his stats so far this season but imagine what his shooting % could be if he stops shooting four 3′s per game. He shoots as if he’s the damn star of the team. He drove me crazy down here in Atlanta for the last 10 years and now he’s driving me crazy playing for my beloved Pistons. Maybe Coach Cheeks told him as long as he stuffs the overall stat sheet and shoots over 45% that he can have four 3′s per game and shoot 20 shots. SMDH.

  • Nov 5, 20139:09 pm
    by James

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    I have serious doubts about Cheeks’s discipline of his team now as well as the past.

  • Nov 5, 20139:13 pm
    by James

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    I’ve yet to see a pick and roll play from the starters.

  • Nov 5, 20139:13 pm
    by haydzzz

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    too much one on one basketball and letting paul george walk around. put kcp in!

  • Nov 5, 20139:17 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Pope would have made for a good defense match for George because of his quicjkness…

    • Nov 5, 201310:09 pm
      by T Casey

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      I was thinking the same thing. Our 3′s were too slow and a change was obviously needed. KCP can stretch the floor too as we saw with him making his very first and only 3 point attempt when he finally did get in the game. I’m not sure what Cheeks was thinking tonight. 

  • Nov 5, 20139:22 pm
    by haydzzz

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    they have 20 assists, we have 8 enough said

  • Nov 5, 20139:43 pm
    by domnick

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    wtf.. we’re not hitting shots… this is bad

  • Nov 5, 20139:45 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    no 3 point shooting and no mid range shooters….. josh Smith vs Paul George was a horrible mis match

  • Nov 5, 20139:48 pm
    by Windy

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    Stuckey defence down the stretch is not good enough to have him chucking shots…gott have Billups out there being a general and coming things down…stuckey stinks 

  • Nov 5, 20139:52 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Once again we need shooting! the last 2 minute shows what shooting can do

  • Nov 5, 20139:53 pm
    by Windy

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    This is where cheeks looks awful…just no adjustment whatsoever…living and going to die playing an angry ball hog in stuckey, playing with Bynum while the game is slipping away? Good god man make a switch

  • Nov 5, 20139:55 pm
    by Windy

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    Way way too late making adjustments

  • Nov 5, 20139:58 pm
    by Windy

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    Nothing like missing shots and having Billups, Gigi, KCP sitting on the pine…let stuckey keep hoisting and bullying his way to the rack an getting nothing 

  • Nov 5, 201310:00 pm
    by domnick

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    gigi should have played better in the first half… he had 1-6 and 0-4 in the 3pt land… damn

  • Nov 5, 201310:04 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Billups needs  to come off the bench….Start KCP and Jennings ….  Im not saying that was our game to just win, but the difference was the Pacers just dared us to shoot 3′s and jumpers….and when the refs are bailing stuckey out he is useless

  • Nov 5, 201310:07 pm
    by Hookshot

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    Brutal game by Jennings.  He doesn’t finish well and he was horrible from 3 point range. I am hoping this is just rust or we are inmdeep trouble. The rest of the shooters have got to hit their shots. 

  • Nov 5, 201310:15 pm
    by Corey

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    Some very painful things, some very good things in that game.
    Anyone else notice that we got KILLED when Dre Moose and Smith were in there together, and generally did very well when only two of them were in? Seems to be a theme developing there – and not one that is a surprise. They need to shift the rotation to give those 3 less time together.
    Datome didn’t shoot well, but other than that he played very well. His D on Scola in the 1st half was excellent. He appeared to know where to be and what to do at virtually all times.  He never fumbled the ball. He was much more in control than JJ has been.  If half what we’ve heard about him is true, his shot will come around when he gets a little bit acclimated.  And then we’re going to have a good new backup forward to play. As an extra bonus, they played him at the 4. If Datome becomes our stretch 4 instead of CV or JJ, that’s goodness. 
    Stuckey sucks.
    Billups kinda sucks now. His D is horrible. He’s just too slow now. He should be the backup point guard, playing maybe 15 minutes a night. The one area he’s still (very) good is running the offense. If he doesn’t have the ball in his hands running the offense, he’s a negative on the court. So give him that role for the amount of minutes he can handle. If his ego can’t handle not being a starter, too damn bad. 
    When the primary bench guys become Singler, KCP (or Billups, with KCP starting), and Datome, this might be a good team.  Especially if the 3 point shooting can start to approach league average.
     

  • Nov 5, 201310:16 pm
    by T Casey

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    2nd game against a really good team and the same problems are evident. Monroe needs the ball more, KCP needs more minutes, and Smith (and now Jennings) shoot too much. Only low iq ball says keep hoisting when I’m 4/13 and I have a teammate who’s 4/8 and putting in some good work on the block.

  • Nov 5, 201310:28 pm
    by Otis

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    Some really good observations here, guys. The starting lineup was absolutely brutal. Not too surprising, but something has to give if this trend continues. That lineup needs to be our strength, or we can’t possibly expect to build around it. This was a good measuring stick to see how bad this team is built. Going small, even though we were putting less talent on the floor, was the only thing that kept this game from being a bloodbath. Still a lot of meshing to do, but so far our opponents haven’t looked like they had chemistry issues. If this was supposed to work, it should look a lot better than it has so far. If we still look anything like this in February, I don’t see how you could possibly advocate building around two centers and a PF.

  • Nov 5, 201310:35 pm
    by Nick N

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    The chemistry issue should get better as soon as they start KCP. The only thing is it ain’t gon happen til all-star break unless someone gets injured. But I will say I love the toughness of this team. 

  • Nov 5, 201310:39 pm
    by domnick

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    another thing is… we didnt defend george too well… smith should defend that guy and put some resistance to it… 12/18 FG for george is not good… i hate it!

  • Nov 5, 201310:43 pm
    by James

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    Considering they way this team is constructed, Cheeks is going to be seriously exposed as an overmatched coach at least 65-75% of the season. When this team wins it will be strictly do to be more talented, active players and out-rebounding teams. I’ve yet to see any semblance of an offensive strategy. So far, the defense has helped win their two games.

  • Nov 5, 201310:47 pm
    by jerrific

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    Did someone forget to tell jennings that you don’t change into a pass first point guard unless you actually pass the ball?  Twenty shots from jennings and ten from Monroe is absolutely unacceptable

  • Nov 5, 201311:04 pm
    by Vic

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    Singler +26
    Datome +9
    KCP + 6

    My hypothesis before the season was 2 shooters on the floor at all times, and the big lineup will work. Cheeks refuses to play shooters enough to win. The offense runs better even if they are missing shots, because there’s more space for everything else.

    My regular season hypothesis is that anytime Smith shoots significantly more than Monrie, it’s going to be a loss. True so far.

     

    • Nov 5, 201311:41 pm
      by frankie d

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      Cheeks is clueless.
      Smith is clueless.
      Jennings is clueless.  That is a lot of clueless people in important positions.
      If smith and cheeks had a freakin brain they would know that smith is open at the 3 point line for a reason: teams want him to take that shot because he is a historically bad 3 point shooter and they love the fact that he is 20+ feet away from the basket. 
      Maybe someone will figure that basic shyte out and keep him from shooting 7 3 pointers a game.
      I would not hold my breath, however. 

      • Nov 6, 20139:47 pm
        by T Casey

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        “Cheeks is clueless.
        Smith is clueless.
        Jennings is clueless. That is a lot of clueless people in important positions.”

        I couldn’t have said it better if I tried. This is and will continue to be our achiles heel as long as this core of player and coaching is together. Can’t have your offense revolve around the two lowest iq players in the lineup and your coach simply has to be able to make better in-game adjustments than Cheeks has.

  • Nov 5, 201311:04 pm
    by Windy

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    Honestly I didn’t expect a win but a trend I’m noticing with this young team working on chemistry is that Cheeks is just running guys out there for way too long of stretches regardless of the outcome…i know we went through some injuries in preseason etc…that is when you have to go with guys who have actually played with the team, running stuckey out there for long stretches while the game is slipping away is brutal…Jennings looks as bad as advertised, making even a straight up and down jump shot look like is being hacked and having to fade away…so much for lob city Detroit haha…it’s so frustrating watching poor coaching and I think it really will be a trend over and over…when you fall in love with Bynum and Stuckey that says enough…Wake me up when KCP and Gigi are entrenched in the lineup, Billups is stabalizing the game the last 7min, jerebko is out of the lineup and Jennings is actually looking for his big man streaking to the basket…ohhhhh and by the way is Monroe the new Prince? Whining after every possession? Get back and play some D and quit yelling and one when you get striped while your carrying the ball down at your knees…watch jonas valancuious for the raptors, elbows up carry the ball above your head…You wonder why he has so many TOs but Jesus the guy is swooping across the paint with the ball at his ankles lol

  • Nov 5, 201311:12 pm
    by James

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    That’s what baffles me when they mention Monroe and max contract in the same sentence. Go ahead Dumars, and to quote Colonel Decker, THAT’LL BE YOUR UNDOING SMITH!!!

  • Nov 5, 201311:14 pm
    by Max

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    For everyone putting down Stuckey he is averaging over 20 points on 50 percent shooting per 36 minutes so far this year.    

    • Nov 5, 201311:47 pm
      by Ryan P.

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      big problem…game is 48 minutes and stuckey is playing too much

    • Nov 5, 201311:48 pm
      by Ryan P.

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      I will say this though, he is not playing bad..but with Monroe on the court at the same time Monroe should get the ball nearly every time down.  stuckey should only play big minutes with Drummond out there to run the floor and clean up the mess

      • Nov 5, 201311:52 pm
        by Max

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        I don’t think Monroe has the conditioning to get the ball nearly ever time down and most players, even the good ones, don’t. 

        • Nov 6, 201312:01 am
          by Ryan P.

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          True…Monroe might not be there yet..or ever..but the offense should run through him with his passing ability.  He hit a nice jumper or two tonight..I’d like to see him shoot at least 5 a game.

          • Nov 6, 201312:04 am
            by Max

            Me too.  He’s not going to get more comfortable with his jumper unless he takes them.   Remember how even Big Ben was taking jump shots in 04 because Brown wanted him to feel like part of the offense?   It payed off big time when he had his best stretch of shooting throughout the 04 playoff run.  

          • Nov 6, 201312:15 am
            by Otis

            This is a response to Ryan P. and nobody else: 1) The offense most certainly should not run through Monroe. He gets plenty of touches, but he mostly defers and ends up doing almost everything in the low post and almost nothing anywhere else. If Monroe could stand at the elbow and orchestrate the offense, he’d be doing it. He just doesn’t have what it takes. I’ve watched guys like Marc Gasol and even Spencer Hawes stand at the elbow and make plays, and they’re effective. Greg Monroe isn’t going to get you very far working in the high post.
             
            2) Monroe hit one jump shot. I think he’s averaging one made jump shot per game. That is not enough. It’s a similar situation to Smith and his threes. He absolutely NEEDS to make that shot consistently. As long as he does, yeah, he’s got to take at least five a game. But if he can’t shoot them with confidence or make it regularly, you can’t possibly want him taking that shot. I cringe every time Smith shoots a three. Sometimes he makes them, but when he doesn’t it’s murder. Same with Moose’s jumper. If I’m other teams, I want those guys taking those shots. And if we can’t win games with those shots, we can’t build jack around this overgrown lineup.

    • Nov 6, 201312:48 am
      by Ryan P.

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      Who should the offense run through then?  The best option is Monroe.  I do agree about the shying away aspect.  I’d like for him to do more if able..but maybe his teammates don’t think he is ready.  But Monroe has really improved his game and he’s just scratching the surface.  Basically, I’d rather Monroe shoot more jump shots than smith shoot jumpers and Jenning shoot jumpers.

      • Nov 6, 20131:32 am
        by Max

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        No one player should be running the offense.  Jennings, Monroe,  Smith, Billups, Bynum and Stuckey are all capable of taking turns running the offense although taking turns wouldn’t be as good as a system to keep them all involved, sharing the ball, finding the open man and exploiting the best matchups. They are all good to decent passers and all but Monroe can handle the ball.

        Monroe should be something like the first option to score with Jennings having the highest usage rate with the ball in his hands the most.  

        Cheeks should get tough with Smith and give him the red light on taking 3s except in situations when the clock is at least less than 10 seconds and the ball has been passed for him to take a rhythm jumper.   

  • Nov 5, 201311:40 pm
    by Windy

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    it’s got a lot to do with TIMELY shot selection for both Stuckey and Bynum…Dont let Stuckey fool you, he has done this his entire career…just enough for you to fall in love with him and then defend his talent then goes through stretches when he takes just ill advised shots over and over…showcase him a bit and let him pack his bags please…

    ideally KCP starts at some point with Jennings…a second unit of Bilups and StucKey could work as each unit has a shooter to keep teams honest…bynum should be seeing 10 min a night at best…if he is hot let it ride a little longer….sadly Bynum is the only one who recognizes that Dre can jump and dunk a basketball…if he didn’t have that slight chemistry with the big man he probably wouldn’t even be on the team…

    just really annoyed watching Cheeks…not expecting him to work a miracle and create better shooters but having your better shooters sitting on the bench is a joke…

    watched Monrow attack the rack the first bucket of the second half an then the next three possessions chuck up garbage before the bigs could even try to get in position to get an offensive rebound…all the while pacers matching down making the extra pass and HITTING A SHOT…
     
    Better get this rotation tightened up in the next 10 games… 

    • Nov 5, 201311:46 pm
      by Max

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      Bitterness leads to warped thinking.  

  • Nov 5, 201311:45 pm
    by Ryan P.

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    I like Jennings driving and putting up floaters and dishing off..that’s his game and he has the skills to do it well.  But with Stuckey and smith on the roster already, the worst possible thing is for Jennings to over shoot.   Tonight he obviously over shot..although he did have many good looks he just didn’t make…pretty much par for the team tonight.

       Pistons depth wise and talent wise aren’t that much worse than Indiana..what Indiana has is great understanding of themselves and their roles…and they have George.  Watson was a nice signing for them for depth…ill be interested in Granger coming back and if Copeland can ever crack the rotation 

    • Nov 5, 201311:47 pm
      by Max

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      Indiana also has had time to develop chemistry as a group.   It didn’t happen overnight for them.  

      • Nov 5, 201311:59 pm
        by Ryan P.

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        You are exactly right.. they have chemistry and an understanding of their roles…definitely it’s a multi-year process.  They are built on tough defense… and Detroit has the type of personnel to become similar in many areas.  Pacers have a bit more chippiness or whatever you wanna call it.  Detroit isn’t quite like that.  When healthy Pacers have a helluva starting five.

        • Nov 6, 201312:01 am
          by Max

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          I think they have a decent shot at earning a ring this year.  

          • Nov 6, 201312:04 am
            by Ryan P.

            I’ve liked Indy for a couple seasons now and I think they made nice, safe moves in the offseason.  I could see them beating Heat or Chicago.    They have that grit and focus of a title contending team.  Granger will fit in how? 

          • Nov 6, 201312:14 am
            by Max

            I’m guessing he won’t get his starting job back and will eventually be their R. Allen/M. Miller.  

        • Nov 6, 201312:20 am
          by Otis

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          It should not be a multi-year process to figure out how to play together. If it’s that hard, you don’t have the right pieces. The “x-factor” Indiana has is that they have a deep, well-rounded roster with players who are prototypical players at the five positions. It’s quite basic really. And once they added David West as a terrific, legitimate power forward, they were pretty darn good. It didn’t take them “years” to mesh. Maybe a year or two to mesh into truly elite status, but if the Pistons’ pieces aren’t fitting, it’s a total cop out to pretend like they should need years and years to make it work and then they’ll finally be elite. Things aren’t looking promising through four games.

          • Nov 6, 201312:22 am
            by Max

            It shouldn’t take years but to expect it after four games is just as unrealistic.  

          • Nov 6, 201312:23 am
            by Max

            And their guards are not prototypical.  

          • Nov 6, 201312:31 am
            by Ryan P.

            Seemed like it took the heat a couple of years to figure things out.  They tinkered with some things and the “big three” got on the same page.  They also supported James with knock down shooters and their spread out attack took quite a long time to form.

          • Nov 6, 201312:43 am
            by Ryan P.

            Awesome thing about the Pacers is that hill, LS and George can all handle the ball in a variety of situations…they are very versatile.  Closest one to being a point guard of that group is LS. 

            Last season’s team was not deep but of course they are deeper this year with the rookie Hill, Scola and Watson.    Mahinmi is a nice shot blocker but they could even upgrade that position..not sure if they are interested in hawes but he might be available this season.

  • Nov 5, 201311:54 pm
    by Max

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    Stuckey is a scapegoat here and a whipping boy but it has almost nothing to do with his actual performance.  

    • Nov 5, 201311:56 pm
      by Max

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      Stuckey scored 9 points in 16 minutes tonight, didn’t start and the team basically lost the game in the first quarter.   Why is he getting the lion’s share of blame? 

  • Nov 6, 201312:02 am
    by Windy

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    I don’t know who to blame on a game you were expected to lose but if anyone if anyone wants to point a finger aim it at Cheeks…Stuckey had a stretch where he shot 3 bad shots in a row missing them all then got teched up in a tight game in the fourth quarter…can’t have stuckey and Bynum out there when a game is slipping away period…

    • Nov 6, 201312:06 am
      by Max

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      Cheeks was just an incredibly puzzling hire.   Imagine if Karl, Hollins, Sloan or McMillian was the coach and there just seems like no reason to me why this isn’t the case.  

  • Nov 6, 201312:09 am
    by Ryan P.

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    Cheeks is still finding his way through things too…he might give too much leeway to stuckey or prefer him to KCP..but eventually if results don’t go in his favor he will have to change it up.  I trust that he will eventually make correct move.  I like how cheeks trusts singler…one of the more heady and consistent players..and I enjoyed how he gave Italian Jesus some minutes and said in the presser that he has faith that IJ will make those shots in the future

    • Nov 6, 201312:13 am
      by Max

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      The Pistons are a pretty tough to coach right now.  4 new starters on a deep team with Monroe playing a new position and an incredibly unusual frontline that requires more than ordinary creativity and discipline from the coach.  I just don’t know what Cheeks brings to the table in the scenario but I’m hoping he figures it out somehow.

      • Nov 6, 20136:26 am
        by frankie d

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        Agreed.  
        Imho, Cheeks was THE worst guy to have hired to coach this team. This team will require a coach with the ability to creatively mesh the team’s odd pieces and the coach will have to -sooner, rather than later – keep both jennings and smith from destroying  the offense with their horrid shot selection.  Cheeks has never been that kind of coach. He is someone who will let guys play their games, sometimes to the ultimate destruction of the team.  It is no coincidence that the team only looks organized when chauncey – who is being asked to do too much – is on the floor.
        Jennings shooting 20 shots with monroe in single digits?
        Smith shooting 15 shots while jacking up 6 more 3s with lots of them early in the shot clock? 
        Sure it is early in the season but these are the exact problems skeptics warned about and it sure doesnt look like cheeks has a clue about solving them. 

  • Nov 6, 20138:06 am
    by Corey

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    Superlatives are rarely true. Is Cheeks THE worst guy to coach the team? Obviously not. You or I would both be much worse.

    • Nov 6, 201310:28 am
      by T Casey

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      I’m pretty sure the the implication was that Cheeks was the worst guy to hire out of the group of coaches who were available.

      • Nov 6, 201312:43 pm
        by frankie d

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        Thank you.  That is exactly what i meant.   

  • Nov 6, 201312:52 pm
    by Nelson U. Simpson

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    The Lakers (8-4) bounced back from a poor showing at Monday’s game and played one of their best games of the season by defeating the Pistons (8-4)18-13 in a forty-three hit, five homers slugfest led by Lakers Doug Dunn, Russ Beasley, and Danny Wright with four hits each. Maury F. Jastad tagged two four baggers and six rbi’s. Winning pitcher Bob Jarrow, despite bad back, tossed another excellent game. Terry Cole was a single shy of the cycle, and Tom Pyrzenski and David Williams added three hits apiece for the Pistons.

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