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14 options to fill the Pistons’ roster

At the Detroit Free Press, I wrote about 14 candidates for the Pistons’ final roster spot:

  • Cole Aldrich
  • Johan Petro
  • Hamed Haddadi
  • Henry Sims
  • Jason Collins
  • Ben Wallace
  • Vernon Macklin
  • Kyrylo Fesenko
  • Drew Gooden
  • Tyrus Thomas
  • Chris Wilcox
  • Ike Diogu
  • Ivan Johnson
  • JaJuan Johnson

Read the article to learn more about each of the 14.

53 Comments

  • Aug 16, 201312:11 pm
    by Roit

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    is there any chace to bring big ben back?

    • Aug 16, 20131:39 pm
      by CNA5

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      I don’t think he’s going to return for a token roster spot.  I don’t think he wants to play unless he feels like he’s contributing as part of a regular rotation.  And, as of right now, it’s likely that Monroe, Drummond, and Smith can easily take all of the ‘big’ minutes.
       

  • Aug 16, 201312:38 pm
    by Thiago

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    1. Big Ben
    2. Macklin

     

  • Aug 16, 201312:47 pm
    by Tony

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    Hassan Whiteside or some European bigs 

  • Aug 16, 201312:47 pm
    by Tony

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    Hassan Whiteside or some European big

  • Aug 16, 201312:51 pm
    by RyanK

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    I’d look at Gooden…seems like he’s always been a beast in the paint and a player who’s done well against us.  If he has anything left, he’s the best option on the list.  He didn’t play much last season…maybe he was injured or maybe he can’t play anymore.

    Ben Wallace…as long as he stays on the bench and doesn’t work himself into the rotation.  He should be there just as a back in the event of injuries, fouls, or suspensions. 

    • Aug 16, 20131:58 pm
      by CNA5

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      Gooden is also an idiot.  He makes a lot of plays that absolutely kills teams.  Gooden often doesn’t run the right play offensively.  He takes a lot of bad fouls at times.  He often crashes the offensive glass and comes up empty, allowing teams to run out on them.  He often makes critical mistakes guarding the pick and roll.  That’s why he’s still a free agent and has bounced around 9 different teams despite filling up the stat sheet.
       
      If you’re going to put up with an idiot, Tyrus Thomas is the way to go.  He’s younger and more athletic.
       
      I’d probably take a look at Fesenko.  He has excellent size and most people say he’s a pretty good teammate.  At 26 years old, there’s at least a small chance that maybe he could have some upside as a rotation player.

      • Aug 16, 20134:25 pm
        by frankie d

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        for every 2 good plays gooden makes, he makes one bad play.  and it usually is a play that hurts his team.
        opponents exploit his tendency to fall asleep  on defense and when they really need points, they go right at him.
        he is so frustrating because he is a good player, but he has to be one of the dumbest guys in the league.  or at least a guy with no ability to focus beyond a few minutes.
        i wonder if he has ADD. 

        • Aug 17, 20131:31 pm
          by CNA5

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          I think that’s a fair assessment of Gooden.  It is a shame, though.  He has a good skillset for a backup big. 

  • Aug 16, 20131:15 pm
    by Vic

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    Cole Aldrich
    Haddadi
    Vern Macklin
     

    • Aug 16, 20131:17 pm
      by Vic

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      Henry Sims
      Ivan johnson 

  • Aug 16, 20131:55 pm
    by Victor

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    Come back V-Mack!

  • Aug 16, 20132:13 pm
    by frankie d

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    ivan johnson
    then macklin
    and then ben.
    johnson is a very nice player.  definitely makes an impact when he is on the floor.  he can also guard all 3 front court positions.  not quite sure why he has bounced around – other than that he is a headache – but he would definitely add something positive to the detroit rotation.  love his attitude, and he would bring back some of detroit’s bad boy mentality.
    macklin got screwed when he was here.  he seems to be a guy who will stick once given a real shot.  he seems to have been a victim of numbers wherever he has been.
    would love to have been back, but both macklin and johnson would offer several years of service – and value as a possible asset – if they panned out.
    with ben, he’d be here for one year and then poof…he’s gone.  as much as i’d love him back, i’d much rather take a shot at the other guys.
    and what about malcom thomas, the guy who was on the bulls summer league team?
    he’d be a guy i’d definitely put at the top of my list, if he was available. 

  • Aug 16, 20132:28 pm
    by hirobeats

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    Johan Petro is the weakest player in the National Basketball Association. He only messes up, and nothing else. 

  • Aug 16, 20132:39 pm
    by gtg2013

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    Ben! Ben! Ben! Ben!

  • Aug 16, 20135:32 pm
    by Derek AKA Redeemed

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    Ben Wallace
    Vernon Macklin 

  • Aug 16, 20136:09 pm
    by gmehl

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    I say we don’t sign anyone and just keep the spot free. Monroe or Drummond will eat up all the minutes at C. Jerebko, Mitchell and can play the leftover minutes at PF. I’m hoping for a mid season trade so the open roster spot might come in handy.

  • Aug 16, 20136:33 pm
    by David

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    Hope they don’t use the full mid-level here. Since its possible they could work a trade (as gmehl mentioned) that might include a backup C, it’d be nice to have someone super cheap on the roster that could be waived if his roster spot is needed. Waiving 500,000? Much easier than waiving a player earning 2.5 million.

     

    • Aug 17, 20131:35 pm
      by CNA5

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      Nah, this is a veteran minimum spot here.  As of right now, they’d likely dress:

      1.  Drummond
      2.  Smith
      3.  Monroe
      4.  Singler
      5.  Jennings
      6.  Billups
      7.  Caldwell-Pope
      8.  Stuckey
      9.  Bynum
      10. Jerebko
      11. Datome
      12. Villanueva

      Villanueva will get every opportunity simply because of his jump shot.  They wouldn’t MLE a guy who will likely play 15-25 games for a total of 100 or so minutes. 

  • Aug 16, 20137:36 pm
    by tim*

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    what number would Big Ben wear if he returned for a THIRD stint

    • Aug 16, 201310:35 pm
      by G

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      He’d be up to 9, right? If he’s increasing by multiples of 3, anyway.

    • Aug 16, 201310:36 pm
      by tiko

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      after Drummond gave up 1 Stuckey better beg Ben to take 3 back

  • Aug 16, 201310:13 pm
    by GoStones

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    Josh Harrellson!

  • Aug 16, 201310:57 pm
    by Windy

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    Lou Amundson looks to maybe be headed out west…Drew Gooden would Probably be the most serviceable out of the pack, bring more of that vet presence…that reallywhat I’m looking for…if Dre or Moode were to go down for a ten game stretch who would back us up at center? I wouldn’t want to have Vernon Macklin, JaJaun Johnson etc…coming in trying to play 20 min a game…Gooden could actually handle the time and possibly produce free ally solidcame every once and awhile…with Ivan Johnson may be heading to china a well…

  • Aug 16, 201311:10 pm
    by Max

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    Gooden would definitely be my first call.  I see what some of you are saying about him but this signing is mostly about having the best practice player possible to line up against Drummond and someone who can step in in case of injury.    Gooden seems like the best player to me for Drummond to have to defend and compete for rebounds against in terms of not allowing Drummond to take practice off and hone his skills.

  • Aug 17, 201312:51 am
    by Lorenzo

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    I actually like Fesenko but I believe he has or is close to signing for a team in Europe. Cole Aldrich seems like he would be worth a shot…young, has size, and is going to get marginal minutes, worth the gamble. Haddadi wasn’t catastrophic in limited minutes either. 

    The list is pretty much a crap shoot of the bottom of the bin, can’t do much right or wrong here….save for Tyrus Thomas…that would be a huge wrong.

  • Aug 17, 20131:16 am
    by RalphHau

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    Chris “always hurt” Wilcox is out, Ben wants minutes so I think he is out, Vernon Macklin would be nice.  I guess at this point most, not all could fit in.

  • Aug 17, 20133:17 am
    by AYC

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    The cheapest 6 hard fouls available.

  • Aug 17, 20137:35 am
    by GoStones

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    No, I saw on twitter that Josh Harrellson was signed by the Pistons!  Look for yourself under “Pistons” from last night/evening.  His niece posted it.  I’m not overly gullible, however, it seems legit.

  • Aug 17, 201311:40 am
    by Desolation Row

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    I like Tyrus Thomas. Bust, sure, but wouldn’t be a bad 12th man.

  • Aug 17, 20138:15 pm
    by Boss

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    1.  Drummond2.  Smith3.  Monroe4.  Singler5.  Jennings6.  Billups7.  Caldwell-Pope8.  Stuckey9.  Bynum10. Jerebko11. Datome12. Villanueva
    13. Mitchell
    14. Siva

    We are fine as is! We have plenty of guys to slide in to Power Forward…Plenty of Guards..We still have no PURE SHOOTER! 

    • Aug 17, 201311:09 pm
      by tarsier

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      No pure shooter?

      What are Datome, Singler, KCP, Billups, Villanueva? 

      • Aug 19, 20131:44 am
        by JayA

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        Vilanueva seriously your joking right.  We need to trade vilanueva for a bag of sour cream lays potatoe chips.  Stuckey can go as well wouldn’t mine picking up that kid green from the celtics for both of them.  Let’s say no to RONDO….

        • Aug 19, 20139:10 am
          by tarsier

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          I don’t like Villanueva one bit. But he is a pure shooter. What else does he contribute?

  • Aug 17, 20139:52 pm
    by T Casey

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    I think Tyrus Thomas would be the best choice. Although, we may have enough potentially volatile players here already.

  • rumor hasit we signed Josh Harrellson

  • Aug 18, 201311:15 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    In all reallity does it matter?

     

  • Aug 19, 20131:51 am
    by JayA

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    Let’s just hold on to stuckey and charlie for now and try our hand at requiring the services of a young Rudy Gay for those two.

    • Aug 19, 20139:14 am
      by tarsier

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      “try our hand at requiring”

      WTF? What does that even mean? Hey guys, let’s try to play in such a way that we need Rudy Gay for our team… so I guess that means doing other things adequately but stinking up the joint because we can’t manufacture shots. 

  • Aug 19, 201310:26 am
    by Keith

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    Who we pursue depends on what we hope to accomplish. The best actual defender is Fesenko. He’s a giant and his presence has consistently shut down the paint to opponents. Wallace might be good for the locker room, and he is a quality defender, but he can’t have much if anything left at this point.

    I’m not sure anyone else on the list is realistically worth pursuing. With Dwight in the West, and the incredible unlikelihood of seeing Houston in the postseason means Collins value is non-existant. Everyone else is replacement level at best. 

  • Aug 19, 20131:19 pm
    by Lake Side Live

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    If Dutch people are retweeting it, it must be true!  Josh Harrellson the 15th man!
    https://twitter.com/RLeendersNBA

    Also we should be thrilled to have this guy because he is a hero! “In August 2011, Harrellson risked his own personal safety and damage to his vehicle to stop a drunk driver.”   http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-08-16/josh-harrellson-steps-in-to-stop-drunk-driver 
     

    • Aug 19, 20131:21 pm
      by Lake Side Live

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      Just kidding by the bye

  • Aug 19, 20135:50 pm
    by Max

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    Hoopshype has been posting the top 50 players in every franchises history over the summer.   Today, came the Pistons turn:

    http://hoopshype.com/galleries/hoopshype/the-top-50-players-in-pistons-history 

    • Aug 20, 20138:40 am
      by tarsier

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      Wow, who was putting these guys in order? How could anyone put Rip and Prince over Ben?

      • Aug 20, 20132:57 pm
        by Max

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        -Outside of the top five, which in the Pistons case isn’t even exactly right, they’ve been doing a pretty bad job with setting the order for every franchise.   I guess the only formula that would put Prince and Rip ahead of Ben would be years of service.   Still, the player cards are cool and it’s nice to see the numbers they averaged for the team.

        • Aug 20, 20134:20 pm
          by tarsier

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          Yeah, but if they’re looking primarily at years in town, why is Billups so high?

  • Aug 19, 20137:35 pm
    by Crispus

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    I wouldn’t want Drew Gooden anywhere near impressionable young Andre Drummond. Who knows what kind of horrible haircut Gooden could convince AD to get. At least Jason Collins would be able to teach Drum and Monroe about playing tough D even when you are outmatched.

    • Aug 20, 20138:32 am
      by tarsier

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      Is Drummond a particularly impressionable fellow? He might be, but I have yet to encounter anything that seems to indicate as much. I’m guessing your logic is as simple as young + impressionable, which is rather simplistic–and wrong.

    • Aug 20, 201311:19 am
      by Crispus

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      From Rasheed Wallace:
      “He’s still young, he’s still raw, and he’s still depending on his athleticism a lot, which, to tell you the truth, a lot of 19-year-olds do,” Wallace said. “But the thing I think will get ‘Dre over is he’s not one of those ‘I know’ guys. Like, everything you tell him, he’s [not] like ‘I know, I know.’ Everything you tell him, he sucks it up. He might not like it, but he doesn’t complain about it. He still does it.”
       
      From Charlie V:
      “Andre’s just scratched the surface of his talent,” said Villanueva, who had six points and eight rebounds against the Knicks. “I think he’s going to be a premier center. Right now, he’s like a sponge, soaking everything in, and he’s a good listener.”
       
      From Brandon Knight:
      Brandon Knight on Andre Drummond: “He’s a sponge. He wants to learn. He’s a smart kid and I know he’s going to be a great player.”
       
      From Andre Drummond:
      Everyday is a new learning experience for me! Soaking up all theses new information to become a great player! #DetroitPistons

  • Aug 19, 201311:31 pm
    by kevin P

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    The rumor mill has Josh Harrellson signing with the Pistons.  He seems like a pretty decent player.  Can’t imagine why he’s not in the NBA now.

  • Aug 20, 20131:03 pm
    by pt

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    TY THOMAS! Then start him. He good. 

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