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Would Pistons want Rajon Rondo? Um, yes

Chris Forsberg of ESPN:

So would Ainge prefer that rival general managers stop calling about Rondo?

"I always listen to calls and listen to what [their] ideas are, but we have no intentions of moving Rajon," Ainge said.

Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:

If Rajon Rondo becomes available, expect the #Pistons to be among the first in line

Rondo is an elite passer and defender and would be a huge upgrade for the Pistons, but he’d probably cost them Greg Monroe. If the Pistons sign Josh Smith (a longtime friend of Rondo) and Rondo is healthy, that would be more than fine by me. Rondo, Smith and Andre Drummond would fit very well together, and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would be a great start at filling in the wings.

But if Rondo becomes available,Boston will surely get plenty of offers. Even if they would accept a trade centered around Monroe for Rondo – and that’s a major if – the Celtics might get even more appealing offers.

There’s a whole lot to overcome between the present situation and Rondo becoming a Piston.

36 Comments

  • Jul 2, 20131:43 pm
    by tom

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    You really think they get more for Rondo than Monroe? In a vacuum I feel like that trade favors them, but if essentially brings up Rondo and Josh Smith I think I would take it.

    If Drummond is as good as people here seem to think/hope than he, Rondo and Smith makes a big 3 that can compete for a championship. We probably wouldn’t be able to put together the supporting pieces for a legitimate run next year, but I think there would be an outside shot. 

  • Jul 2, 20131:47 pm
    by Sergio Fried Chicken

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    Why do some folks want Moose gone i dont understand he has not even hit his prime and he had the most double doubles in the east last year. Not the best defender okay but he can rebound he plays hard and is a hell of a passer for a big man. And he is not even 25 years old, please for rondo and josh smith sorry. Rondo is good but a real cancer and smith is much older than moose. Besides Andre the Giant is a rim protector and a good help side defender so Moose will be ok.

    • Jul 2, 20132:16 pm
      by Ryan

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      Some of us are looking objectively at our 2-asset roster (not counting expiring contracts) and wondering if we sit on Drummond/Monroe for the next 2 years, if we’ll lose him anyway. The FA crop is week and we’ll have heavy competition if we still have cap space next year. Trading Monroe might be the only route to seriously upgrading this roster.

      Hopefully Joe sits on it, they’re the greatest 4/5 combo the league has ever seen, and they win multiple championships, but if it isn’t looking that way in a few months… 

      • Jul 2, 20133:46 pm
        by G

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        Best 4/5 combo the league has ever seen? Better than Sampson & Olajuwon? Shaq & Grant? Duncan & Robinson? I think I’d wait for them to win a title or 2 before opening up THAT conversation.

        • Jul 2, 20133:54 pm
          by tarsier

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          I think the point was that he was saying “hopefully ____________ will happen, but realistically, it won’t”.

          • Jul 2, 20134:24 pm
            by G

            Hopefully Brandon Knight turns into Tony Parker. Hopefully Cheeks coaches his way out of a paper bag. Hopefully KCP turns into the best 3&D guy the league has ever seen. We get every spectrum of hopefulness on this thing.

            Re-reading that comment shed some more light on the tone (which, turns out, I agree with). That “best 4/5 in the league” jumped out at me. Maybe I should take a minute, huh?

          • Jul 2, 20135:26 pm
            by Ryan

            Respect, G. I probably didn’t even need to go there to make the point.

      • Jul 2, 20134:10 pm
        by oats

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        He’s a restricted free agent after next year, which means they can match any contract offer he gets and keep him. The team could also exceed the cap to bring him back, but the odds are that isn’t an issue. Both Stuckey and CV will be coming off the books after this season, so Dumars would have to make a lot of moves to put Detroit in a situation where maxing Monroe would even put the team over the cap. Simply put, Monroe can’t leave if the team wants to keep him.

        • Jul 2, 20134:21 pm
          by tarsier

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          CV better not be coming off the books next offseason. If he is not amnestied, that BG trade has zero payoff because BG could have simply been amnestied.

          • Jul 2, 20135:28 pm
            by Ryan

            Good point. Makes a difference for Gores’ bottom line, though (with Maggette off the books now). That would not bode well.

        • Jul 2, 20135:27 pm
          by Ryan

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          Ok, 3 years. When he can be a UFA if this win % doesn’t go up.

  • Jul 2, 20131:49 pm
    by Eric

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    Rondo PG
    Pope SG
    Iggy SF
    Smith PF
    Drummond C

    Could we make this work? 

    • Jul 2, 20132:00 pm
      by tarsier

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      Even if a starting lineup without a single proven shooter were desirable, I don’t think the Pistons could make that work cap-wise. Maybe if they threw in a few other contracts (including Stuckey) into a Monroe-Rondo swap.

      • Jul 2, 20132:49 pm
        by Steve

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        Throw in a Charlie V. Expiring contract and it might be able to work?
        Rondo will also be a FA next year… so it’s gonna cost to keep him here next year if we pick him up in a trade. 

        • Jul 2, 20132:54 pm
          by tarsier

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          There is zero reason to throw in CV. He is a negative asset to any other team. The Pistons, though, can simply amnesty him.

  • Jul 2, 20131:56 pm
    by Eric

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    Or are we better off with
    Calderon PG
    KCP SG
    Smith SF
    Monroe PF
    Drummond C 

    • Jul 2, 20132:11 pm
      by tarsier

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      It is a very rare situation when a team is better off with Smith at a position that encourages him to shoot from outside.

  • Jul 2, 20132:12 pm
    by count that baby and a foul

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    don’t forget the celtics want to tank bad.
    First trade cv and Stuckey to toronto for Gay plus New yorks 2014 first rounder (gets paid too much but expires in two years and could be a cap hold for dre extension)
    Then trade Knight/kyle and new yorks 2014 first rounder for rondo, that saves boston money and gets them another pick to add to there top 5 they would have with that roster. as long as they don’t make us take wallace back in the trade.
      

  • Jul 2, 20132:14 pm
    by count that baby and a foul

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    add to their* top 5

    pg rondo/siva
    sg Pope/english
    sf rudy/JJ/middleton
    pf moose/tony
    c dre/slava      

    • Jul 2, 20132:21 pm
      by Ryan

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      Is that Rudy Gay? And if so, Masai Ujiri (who just got a pick for Bargnani) is gonna accept Stuckey and Knight?

    • Jul 2, 20132:41 pm
      by Jake

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      Why in the world would either Toronto or Boston do those trades?  Even if they wanted to move Gay/Rondo, they would get offers WAAAAAY better than what you are suggesting.
       

    • Jul 2, 20133:09 pm
      by Huddy

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      Why would Toronto have traded away Calderon and his big expiring deal and bring in Gay if they are more interested in cap space?  Obviously they want Gay on the team moving forward.
       
      Siva will be lucky to make the roster let alone be the primary back up at PG…hes a 57th pick that is undersized, can’t shoot, not a floor general, and who’s defensive upside is clouded because of the type of D he played in college(full court pressure and lots of contact on the ball for steals that will be called all day in the NBA) banking on heart and quickness.

      • Jul 2, 20135:30 pm
        by Ryan

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        Actually, that was a Colangelo move. There’s some talk that Ujiri wants to blow the whole thing up. He’d almost certainly hold out for more than what we could offer, though.

  • Jul 2, 20132:15 pm
    by Sergio Fried Chicken

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    Nobody likes Rondo he is a cancer if Ray allen dont like you something is wrong and plus the acl injury is not good. He can play his tail off but will he give us problems in the locker is my main concern with him.

  • Jul 2, 20132:42 pm
    by sinnombre2323

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    if we were to go after rondo they should consider bringing gerald wallace to. If we also could sign iggy and jsmith……
    rondo, bynum
    iggy, pope
    wallace, jj
    jsmith, mitchell
    drummond, slava
     
     

    • Jul 2, 20134:19 pm
      by tarsier

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      Wallace has negative value. I’d be fine with bringing him in if the Pistons get something decent to do so. But I wouldn’t trade Stuckey for him and I see Stuckey as valueless at his point.

  • Jul 2, 20132:47 pm
    by Joey

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    Your guyss lineup and trade ideas SUCK NUTS

    • Jul 2, 20133:11 pm
      by count that baby and a foul

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      Having never sucked nuts, I wouldn’t know. Thank you for sharing your life experience with us.

  • Jul 2, 20133:09 pm
    by zdh

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    these are just completely delusional trades that no other team would accept.

  • Jul 2, 20134:12 pm
    by Jeremy

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    I agree that some of the trades discussed are slightly out there (that’s my opinion though). I, however, have probably brought up equally random, weird, and delusional trades as well. I personally am not a Rondo fan but that doesn’t mean that I can’t warm up to him playing in a Pistons uniform. To land him is probably going to take some sort of combination of Monroe, Stuckey or Knight, and possibly a pick (couldn’t be a first rounder coming from us). Monroe and Stuckey might be appealing in that they get an up and coming PF and Stuckey’s deal is off the books at the end of the season. I just think they’d want more than that. All that is predicated on the notion that Josh Smith signs here though. I wouldn’t be interested in moving Monroe for Rondo or any other PG or SF (outside of the untouchables out there: CP3, Lebron, etc., etc.) without having a legit replacement for him.
     
    Let’s say they could sign Smith and land Rondo for Moose and Stuckey. My next play would be to get a SF (AK47 maybe…) and deep threats. Go Rondo, KCP, AK47, Smith, and Drummond starting. Knight 6th man, Singler, Jonas, Mitchell, CV, Slava, and Middleton off the bench. English and Siva don’t make the team. Having 3 spots to fill the roster, I would probably look at a long ball shooter (maybe give Billups a swan song here in Detroit?) and push Middleton into street clothes mode for most nights.
     
    Best part is the defense is shored up with Rondo, AK47 and Smith additions to Drummond. Billups is still an adequate defender and legit PG off the bench. Best part is, this team walks into the 2014 free agency with CV coming of the books (pending I don’t trade him a day before the deadline), no fear that I can’t keep Monroe under contract, and still have cap space to boot.
     
     
     

    • Jul 2, 20136:21 pm
      by Steve

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      That starting lineup would score like 30 points each night. In fact, the entire team doesn’t really have a player that can get his own shot. You’d be running pick-and-rolls with Rondo and Drummond all night, which would get old and useless fast.

  • Jul 2, 20136:55 pm
    by Eric

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    Rondo’s attitude, especially under the mild mannered Mo Cheeks, could be problematic. And I DO like the possibilities of Rondo, Smith, Drummond…and I can even swallow allowing the soon-to-be RFA Monroe to exit in the deal.

    I believe what will ‘win’ the Rondo is the team willing to pay Wallace 10 million dollars for the next three years. 

    If he could rediscover any of the Wallace of old, rather than an Old Wallace, he’d fit nicely for the Pistons at 3.   

  • Jul 2, 20136:56 pm
    by Eric

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    Rondo’s attitude, especially under the mild mannered Mo Cheeks, could be problematic. And I DO like the possibilities of Rondo, Smith, Drummond…and I can even swallow allowing the soon-to-be RFA Monroe to exit in the deal.

    I believe what will ‘win’ Rondo is the team willing to pay Wallace 10 million dollars for the next three years. 

    If he could rediscover any of the Wallace of old, rather than an Old Wallace, he’d fit nicely for the Pistons at 3.   

  • Jul 2, 20138:19 pm
    by Ccnation

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    I want 1 item for Christmas.  Fire Dumars.  Bledsoe went for 2 2nd round picks?  What are the pistons doing?  No one wants to play for such a poorly managed franchise. No free agents will sign here unless we pay them above 20 percent market value.  

    • Jul 2, 20139:27 pm
      by tarsier

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      Well, he actually cost the Suns Dudley and a second rounder. But yeah, that is less than expected.

  • Jul 2, 20138:21 pm
    by Ccnation

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    I will not support yet he pistons if they acquire rondo, smith, or jr smith.

    pistons should make a run at Millsap.  

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