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Pistons to meet with O.J. Mayo

Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports:

Dallas Mavericks free-agent guard O.J. Mayo met with the Minnesota Timberwolves on Sunday night in Los Angeles, a league source said. Mayo is scheduled to also meet with the Detroit Pistons,Milwaukee Bucks, Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz.

At one point, I thought Mayo would be the Pistons’ top offseason target.

In his first 21 games last season, Mayo shot an incredible 53 percent on 3-pointers. In his final 61 games, he shot a mediocre 35 percent on 3-pointers.

Overall, Mayo shot a career-best 41 percent from beyond the arc, but perhaps that number was boosted by a fluky, hot start. He’s still a solid outside shooter, and he could help the Pistons space the floor. Really, because of his slumping finish, one that included Rick Carlisle getting on him for inconsistent effort, Mayo might come cheap enough for the Pistons to get him after signing one of Josh Smith or Andre Iguodala.

27 Comments

  • Jul 1, 20134:11 pm
    by Sean

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    If we can sign him for relatively cheap in addition to someone like Iggy that would be a win.
    But it would make the passing up of Burke all that more confusing.

  • Jul 1, 20134:17 pm
    by Max

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    Why the hell are the Pistons even meeting with Mayo and Evans after drafting KCP?   I’m trying to get on board with this draft pick after the nonsensical passing of Burke but how would KCP ever play well enough or even get on the court enough to justify that pick if the Pistons sign one of those two?  

  • Jul 1, 20134:25 pm
    by G

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    If this is the direction Dumars is going, he either has a deal worked out with Calderon or Knight is the starting PG next year. Again.

    • Jul 1, 20137:32 pm
      by mike

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      Or he has trades lined up for a PG. But I’ve also read from multiple places that Calderon is still high on their list of FA priorities. Personally Id rather have Lin if they could do that trade

      • Jul 2, 20138:28 am
        by G

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        There’s several things I don’t like about Lin, primarily that he doesn’t bring good perimeter shooting & his turnovers, but I’d rather have Lin running point than Knight.

  • Jul 1, 20134:40 pm
    by Phil

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    I think the ideal Piston’s offseason would be Josh Smith and OJ Mayo.  Both have holes in their games, but both are also young enough to either have upside (Mayo) or to not be guaranteed liabilities at the end of their contracts (Smith). 

    Starting lineup of Knight, Mayo, KC, Monroe, Drummond with Smith off the bench looks like a playoff team to me.  Lacking a playmaker, and size challenged in the backcourt / wings.  But very versatile. 

    I would be concerned about Drummond without a solid penetrator, however.  He might struggle without someone like Will or Calderon to get him the ball.   

    • Jul 1, 20136:05 pm
      by MrBlockedShot

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      Knight playing PG (not reliable one yet and years away from Calderon and other above average guards…), 2 SG and no SF makes that lineup difficult to swallow. Not to mention Smith (likely your best paid player coming off the bench)…Imho forget about Mayo, start your best pick at his natural spot(KCP), get a true PG and let Knight grow comfortable wherever it is, upgrade SF spot with a 3 and D player and that lineup will look better

    • Jul 2, 20138:29 am
      by G

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      I think one crazy person you can take on, 2 is trouble.

      • Jul 2, 20138:31 am
        by G

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        Sorry, I misread that. I thought that was JR Smith & Josh Smith. OJ Mayo isn’t crazy. I worry about overpaying for Mayo though, and I think the Pistons would HAVE to cut bait with Stuckey if they were to sign Mayo. Too many SG’s.

  • Jul 1, 20134:51 pm
    by joe dumars

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    Mayo’s problem is he doesn’t play well with other scorers, and it seems to me his numbers dipped once Dirk came back. He had the same problem Rudy Gay, and that was one of the reasons he eventually ended up coming off the bench.

  • Jul 1, 20135:18 pm
    by Joey

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    If they do her both Josh Smith and OJ Mayo, the starting lineup would be:

    PG: BK7
    SG: OJ
    SF: J- Smoove
    PF: Moose
    C:  Dre-Drummond 

    • Jul 1, 20136:37 pm
      by tarsier

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      I’d rather

      PG: low cost FA, maybe Calderon
      SG: Knight and Pope can fight for this starting spot
      SF: OJ
      PF: Moose and Smoove can fight for this starting spot
      C: Moose and Drummond can fight for this starting spot

      With one of Knight/Pope, one of Smith/Monroe/Drummond, and Jerebko coming off the bench. Although, depending on the game, what you have up there could potentially be the finishing lineup. 

      • Jul 2, 20138:34 am
        by G

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        Mayo can’t play SF. He’s 6’4″, and he has problems defending SG’s. I know you think a wing player can/should defend either position, but the fact is the average SF in the NBA stands at 6’7″ and the average SG stands 6’5″. A good defender can make up the difference, but Mayo isn’t a good defender.

        • Jul 2, 20139:19 am
          by tarsier

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          But almost every team has on the floor at any given time at least one wing who basically just stands in the corner. That is really easy to defend, even if you’re giving up 3 inches.

          • Jul 2, 201311:20 am
            by G

            That’s over-simplifying it by quite a bit. Remember Danny Green? He took a LOT of corner & wing threes, but he did it by moving around. This requires the defender to NOT BALL WATCH, which is where a guy like Mayo loses it. And even if he sticks with his guy, his lack of height & length hurts his ability to challenge a taller player’s shot.

          • Jul 2, 201312:14 pm
            by tarsier

            The lack of height only hurts if he loses his man. That could be a problem with Mayo. But it would be the ball watching that is the problem, not the lack of height.

          • Jul 2, 201312:52 pm
            by G

            Lack of height hurts because it means he has to guard his guy tight to challenge a shot, while a longer player can play off & still get a hand in his face. This is what made Tayshaun so effective. When you have to guard a guy tight on the perimeter, you have less margin for error if the guy tries to blow by you. It’s the difference of about a step or two, which is the difference between cutting off the lane and getting beaten. Also, it would only take a couple fakes to get Mayo off balance & to create the space needed to make a shot.

            Not to mention some of the SF’s in this league run as high as 6’10″ and many would out-weigh Mayo by 30 lbs. So not only would he be overwhelmed on the perimeter, he’d be DOMINATED in the post.

  • Jul 1, 20136:02 pm
    by Ryan Kelly

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    kcp is not and never will be a SF.   He’s similar in size to rip Hamilton.   Rip never could play sf although some nimrods put him there for small stretches.  He’s a sg and that’s it. 

    • Jul 1, 20136:41 pm
      by tarsier

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      If you’re right, that makes him an awful pick. The only way you want a player who can only play SG and can’t roll over to either PG or SF is if he is a star at that position. The only pure SGs in the league are Kobe, Allen, Gordon, and arguably Wade or Harden. Gordon had the makings of a star pre-injury. The rest are bonafide stars.

      Pope is not a star.

      • Jul 2, 201312:08 am
        by Max

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        You are forgetting about combo guards like Monta Ellis and Brandon Knight circa 12/13 post Calderon.   

      • Jul 2, 201312:09 am
        by Max

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        Oops.  I read what you said too quickly.  My bad.  

      • Jul 2, 20138:38 am
        by G

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        I think Pope could eventually play SF, but for the moment it would be better for him to learn the game at SG and enjoy a little height advantage most of the time. When he gets the hang of the NBA & adds a little muscle, then he can start playing either wing position. Teams often move players around positionally, it doesn’t mean they SHOULD (remember Stuckey at SF?).

      • Jul 2, 201310:40 am
        by Steve

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        Wade and Harden are both combo-like guards and can both handle the ball quite well, especially Harden during his OKC days. I would say Mayo, Klay Thompson, and JJ Redick are relatively pure SG’s also.

        • Jul 2, 20132:08 pm
          by tarsier

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          Thompson and Mayo have both received significant minutes at SF. I did forget Redick. But it wouldn’t bother me to play him at the three sometimes either.

  • Jul 1, 20136:33 pm
    by CSC

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    What about Devin Harris?  He was great with the Nets back in the day.  I haven’t heard much of him recently but he could be looking for home (a la Chauncey Billups)

    • Jul 2, 20138:40 am
      by G

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      Harris basically crapped out. He wasn’t really a PG, and he’s faded A LOT. I doubt he’d be much of an upgrade over Stuckey.

  • Jul 2, 20134:27 pm
    by Filo Putz

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    I’m not overly impressed with OJM. He has played stretches where you thought he could be counted on as a go to scorer and then longer stretches where he doesn’t meaningfully contribute. I much prefer JR Smith.

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