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Hakeem Olajuwon expects to work with Andre Drummond AND Greg Monroe

We already knew Andre Drummond wants to work out with Hakeem Olajuwon, but Drummond is not the only Piston whom The Dream expects to tutor. Chris Tomasson of Fox Sports:

Hakeem Olajuwon expects to work out this summer in Houston with Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond of the Detroit Pistons.

Greg Monroe developing a mid-range jumper could do wonder for the Pistons’ offense, but his specialty is still in the paint. If Monroe improves his post moves, he could be a scary good – though, perhaps limited – offensive player. But I’d trade efficiency for diversity every time.

49 Comments

  • Jul 13, 201312:59 pm
    by ryan

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    This is excellent news. Hakeem Olajuwon did everything at a high level so whatever those fellas can learn from him ought to be helpful. Also he’s just a sharp guy with a good approach to life.
     

  • Jul 13, 20131:17 pm
    by Timetodienow1234567

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    I agree. However, when was the last team to win a championship without at least one of the bigs having a realiable midrange jumper? I can’t think of it off the top of my Head. 

    • Jul 13, 20132:40 pm
      by Max

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      Rodman and Longley.  

      • Jul 14, 20139:50 am
        by RyanK

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        Longley could hit a jumpshot.  

        • Jul 14, 201311:57 pm
          by Max

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          If Longley satisfies the requirement of being a good jump shooter than so does Monroe.  

    • Jul 13, 20133:15 pm
      by mike

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      This team isn’t winning a championship next year even with bigs with midrange jumpshots. They have plenty of time to develop their jumpshots before we are ready to contend.

      Monroe CAN make those shots, but he’s just not confident enough yet. That will come with age/experience. Drummond also is a capable jumpshooter to the surprise of most. He can make that shot too, and is far more skilled on offense than he gets credit for. He just didn’t get a chance to show it last year because Frank refused to give him the ball. A couple years of honing those skills and consistent touches in games and he’s going to be one of the best offensive Centers in the league, as well as the best defensive Center. Smith has all-star talent already on offense, and CAN also make a jumpshot.

      The idea that this frontcourt is going to be inept on offense is a myth. imo its going to one of if not the highest scoring frontcourt in the league.

      • Jul 13, 20134:15 pm
        by oats

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        This is a little like talking about how great Shaq was at shooting free throws in practice. If they can’t do it in a game it doesn’t matter.

        • Jul 13, 20135:42 pm
          by Chris N

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          “This is a little like talking about how great Shaq was at shooting free throws in practice. If they can’t do it in a game it doesn’t matter.”

          Its true, if a player can’t translate what he’s developed in practice into a game, then it’s not of much use to him or his teammates.  But its not quite the same thing yet.  I think its more akin to talking about Rip Hamilton improving his range out to the 3 point line or LeBron James developing and refining his post game.  Monroe hasn’t shown a deficiency in mechanics or ability thus far.  It appears to be a matter of comfort and timing.  We should see this season if he continues to struggle or if he improves.  Given the continued reports of how much work he puts into his game, I’m expecting (and hoping) it will be the latter.

        • Jul 14, 201312:28 am
          by Max

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          It’s not like Monroe has never shown a jumper.  Maybe not so much last year but I can remember a lot of games in his second year where the midrange jumper was flowing.  

        • Jul 14, 20135:11 pm
          by zach bush

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          it’s not really the same. every basketball player is expected to have to shoot free throws at some point.  shaq had to shoot free throws his whole life and was never any good. i doubt monroe has needed, or been expected to knock down that shot very often during in-game situations until now. i’m expecting him to pull the trigger a lot more often this year than last. just my two cents though..

  • Jul 13, 20131:43 pm
    by RyanK

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    Monroe needs to spend the entire summer shooting around the world…Pistol Pete style.  The 15 footer needs to be automatic.  Hakeem isn’t going to help him make the 15 footer and Monroe isn’t athletic enough to pull off Hakeem’s moves anyway.  The foot speed, coordination, and polished post moves…it’s not in the cards for Monroe to be like Hakeem.

    Monroe should be watching Kevin McHale tapes and trying to get that type of post game going.  McHale was slow footed like Monroe and was still unstoppable in the post.  It was all about fakes using his upper body to get good angles, not trying to move his feet like Hakeem could.  

    I think Corliss Williamson could help Drummond out learning a post up game.  He was a bruiser like Drummond can be.  

    • Jul 13, 20133:54 pm
      by Tony J AD1 for 3!!!

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      Exactly. Monroe mimicks the likes of Kevin Mchale and the player most people compare him to, Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan can hit the mid-range shot and is finess without explosive athletisism at the rim. If/when Timmy retires I hope Moose reaches out to him for some pointers.

    • Jul 13, 20137:10 pm
      by Ray313

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      In that Case Andre should be mimicking Shaq oppose to someone with feet as light as Hakeem.
      Hakeem can’t show him how to use his weight like Shaq can..   

  • Jul 13, 20131:51 pm
    by Brigs

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    they will both be there to challenge each other which probably works out better then if Drummond had went by himself. I wouldn’t expect a huge improvement in either of their post game but a Lil bit can go a long way especially for Drummond who can get points in so many ways, if he can have a semi reliable post  move to go to he could be an all star sooner then alot of people think

  • Jul 13, 20132:18 pm
    by Russell C

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    “If Monroe improves his post moves, he could be a scary good – though, perhaps limited – offensive player.”

    Wow scary good and limited in the same observation. Never miss a chance to be negative do you?

    • Jul 13, 20132:37 pm
      by STILL BELIEVE IN BK

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      Yeah that was unnessary…

    • Jul 13, 20135:16 pm
      by Bill Laimbeer

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      Feldman has lost his mind. The Pistons could win the NBA title in 6 games next year and he’d complain that a sweep would have been more efficient.

    • Jul 13, 20135:51 pm
      by Chris N

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      I’m curious for Dan to expound more on this. Every player is “limited”. What are the limitations

    • Jul 13, 20136:06 pm
      by Dan Feldman

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      And read the next sentence, too. 

      “But I’d trade efficiency for diversity every time.”

      More players should concentrate on becoming great at their best skill rather  slightly better at their worst skills.

      A well-written article on the topic:

      “After inconsistent play under previous coach Jim O’Brien, for whom Hibbert lost weight in an attempt to play more up-tempo, he has thrived under first-year coach Frank Vogel. Hibbert gained weight and strength in the offseason, and Vogel designs his offensive and defensive sets to keep Hibbert near the basket. And even though Hibbert has lamented his lack of perimeter development, West says, “Roy embraces his size. Too many big guys want to be guards. He knows who he is.”"

      http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7881895/how-indiana-pacers-all-star-center-roy-hibbert-avoided-becoming-stiff

      • Jul 13, 20138:56 pm
        by Tony J AD1 for 3!!!

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        I actually agree with you Dan. It will be all good and dandy if Monroe develops a jump shot but not at the expense of him slowing down in other areas of his game. Monroe needs to take his undeveloped skills one year at a time. No need to rush the jumpshot. It will come to him hopefully with experience.

    • Jul 13, 20136:33 pm
      by Keith

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      Just to throw out a few names of players who are scary good but limited:
      Dwight Howard – no post moves, still DPOY caliber and nearly unstoppable in the post
      Dwyane Wade – could never shoot, still a superstar
      Russell Westbrook/Derrick Rose – can’t shoot, but relentless and dominant

      • Jul 13, 201311:57 pm
        by mike

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        D-Wade can’t shoot? 

        • Jul 14, 20131:36 am
          by oats

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          He’s a career 29% shooter from 3. That definitely counts as a limitation for a SG.

  • Jul 13, 20132:48 pm
    by Eric

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    Can’t remember who said or wrote this, but I liked it.  Think it was the Sports Guy.  A week of tutoring with the Dream won’t make you a better post player.  You have to take what you learn and work at your craft every day.  I’m glad they will be working with Hakeem, but I hope they both develop and work at the skills every day.  They have the potential to be the best front court combo in a decade or more.

  • Jul 13, 20132:49 pm
    by Otis

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    His first, second, third and fourth priority should be working on his mid-range jumper if he has any hopes of succeeding as a power forward. Once he’s as deadly as Garnett/McDyess/etc he can fart around with Hakeem.
     

  • Jul 13, 20136:59 pm
    by Mel

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    Dan,funny you post that article about Roy Hibbert. Mo says the same thing about Drummod.

     –On what he learned about Drummond’s game:
     
    “He’s a big guy, a big, imposing guys.  He has great hands, can rebound, can run the floor.  We just gotta get him — and I told him in there (locker room) — he likes to put the ball on the floor, make passes, he likes to do some things that guards do.  We’ve got to get some of those things out of his game.  But as a big guy, the hands he has, the way he runs the floor, his post-ups, it was just something that was encouraging to see.”

     http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2013/07/detroit_pistons_maurice_cheeks.html

  • Jul 13, 20138:04 pm
    by Leon

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    This is for Keith, 

    Russel Westbrook can shoot and do everything else. Derrick Rose is more limited. Russel can shoot the three, shoot the mid range, layup/dunk. He’s a beasts at his position. 

    • Jul 14, 20131:46 am
      by oats

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      The last 2 years he took more than 3 shots a game from behind the arc, and made about 32% of them. No, he can’t shoot the 3. He is well below the league average of about 36%.

  • Jul 14, 20133:24 am
    by Hook Shot

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    Post moves and developing a jumper is a good start but Drummond needs to hit is free throws. 

    • Jul 14, 20136:22 am
      by MrBlockedShot

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      Totally agree. Drummond being 75% from the free-throw line would be a dream come true. That would lead to an increase about 4-6 extra points per game without extra developing. Let’s see how he manages his conditioning this year, I’m a bit concerned about his weight and motor, keeping in mind his a youngster (the Cavs should be even more concerned about Anthony Bennett’s overweight problems in the short-mid terms). IMO his star-caliber player in the league would be determined by wether he’s able to keep fit and made the free throws in the future.

  • Jul 14, 20136:08 am
    by KaBa

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    So now every good player is also a good coach?

  • Jul 14, 20136:25 am
    by MrBlockedShot

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    Hey guys, this is off-topic but…do you think there’s any good chance for us about the Nets shopping Humprhies and Wallace? Could they be involved in a trade with Stuckey or CV ? Don’t see them fitting well here but maybe other team would be interested in a three-team deal.

    • Jul 14, 20139:06 am
      by KaBa

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      What Wallace? Gerald was traded to Boston.

    • Jul 14, 20139:09 am
      by gmehl

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      i think you might’ve missed the trade that sent Wallace and Humphries to the Celtics.  

      • Jul 14, 201311:41 am
        by MrBlockedShot

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        You’re right, sorry, meant the Celtics instead of the Nets. It seems they’re actively shopping both…

  • Jul 14, 20139:00 am
    by Terrell

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    it is easy to tell how many people who write on this site has never play a game of basketball in their life. super stars are born with the talent and practices their moves daily from a child . stars are not cloned or do not mimic other superstars. the only successful mimic of a superstar would be considered Kobe Bryant’s game mimicing Michael Jordan’s game. however, just because Hakeem Olajuwon was a great winner does not mean that he would be a great teacher. he has also worked with Dwight Howard and yet Dwight Howard post game never seem to get as explosive as one might have thought it would have asked her working out with Hakeem Olajuwon.I have stood by thepossibility of the Detroit Pistons trading great Monroe. being that we have Josh Smith who is a power forward, Motorola is a great trading Peas in the event that Rondo from the Boston Celtics becomes available. the Detroit Pistons do not havea well built teen. what they have is a collection of trade assets other than Andre Drummond and call will PopeI don’t see any of the other pieces fitting. also Josh Smith is a building block because of the Ludacris contract then Joe Dumars handed him. not taking anything away from Josh Smith however you do not pay that kind of money 4 player when you’re not even seen in the contender category:. the whole idea is to win a title. just to remain relevant Nasir. 90 percent riders on here never played a game of basketball so therefore they were not understand what it takes to be great. these are not moves that you can learn from somebody else an offer of course of a month. nor 4 months nor 9 months. these are moves that instantly you do when playing as a child any becomes repetitive so you get very good at them.

    • Jul 14, 20139:39 pm
      by Huddy

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      I don’t think the point is to create a Hakeem clone.  Players improve and add to their games all the time…everything isnt just what was in their arsenal as a child. 

      • Jul 15, 201312:01 am
        by Max

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        Hakeem himself developed his moves comparatively late for any ball player and was hardly a child or even a teenager at the time.  

  • Jul 14, 20139:02 am
    by Derek AKA Redeemed

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    I’m excited about the prospect of Monroe and Drummond working with Hakeem. 
    First, with them going together to work on the game it builds chemistry. 
     
    Second, with Monroe working on his area of strength making it stronger builds confidence. Shooters have to have technique and almost overbearing confidence in their shot. 
     
    Monroe’s technique looks pretty good, he’s just too hesitant when it comes to taking his jumper. 

  • Jul 14, 20139:04 am
    by Terrell

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    Sorry for the crazy stuff in post but my computer was tripping!

  • Jul 14, 20139:07 am
    by Prince Vegeta

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    Moose learning Dream Shake > LeBron doing Harlem Shake

    • Jul 14, 201310:07 am
      by RyanK

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      Dream Shake…Monroe can’t do it.  That was an athletic move only one man in NBA history could pull off.  Monroe needs fundamentals to be effective.  Jumpshot and fakes are within his abilities and he can  be unstoppable if he polishes those aspects of his offense.  Forget about being like Hakeem who was a far superior athlete than Monroe.

  • Jul 14, 201312:13 pm
    by by key decisions know

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    I am glad they are both working with Hakeem but I think being with RaSheed every day will benefit them even more. They both will learn better D and  Post up moves and jumpshots.

  • Jul 14, 201312:35 pm
    by Derek AKA Redeemed

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    Rasheed is going to be huge for Drumroe!

  • Jul 14, 20131:45 pm
    by Ken

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    This team still needs an every day pg. I believe Knight can be that guy if he works hard but I don’t know that he can. I’m sorry but I haven’t really seen too many kids come out of Duke that work hard…and the ones that do have very average NBA careers. The Pistons should have drafted Trey Burke…they still would have been able to get Smith and we would be talking about who is going to be the SG. I would much rather be having that conversation.
    GRADES
    Free Agency A+, Draft C.

    • Jul 14, 20132:08 pm
      by ryan

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      1) Brandon Knight didn’t come out of Duke University he played for Kentucky.
      2) He is known for being a very hard worker.
      3) Trey Burke is a marginal prospect at best.
      4) Your post might just be the stupidest of the summer. Congratulations.

  • Jul 14, 20132:41 pm
    by Swani

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    Don’t forget Kyrie seems like he’s worked pretty hard (been hurt but u don’t get to that point wo it)

  • Jul 15, 20133:30 pm
    by Guy

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    Looks like this may nothappen. Houston is in the midst of making Hakeem a paid employee of the team, which likely will preclude him from working with other NBA players.

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