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Which player belongs No. 4 on the Pistons’ draft board?

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1. Ben McLemore

2. Victor Oladipo

3. Otto Porter

16 Comments

  • Jun 23, 201311:05 am
    by Greg

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    Come on guys….what do the Pistons want with Noel??? He´s injured and Joe D just can´t take a player who will not play until christmas with his job-security already questioned. In addition to that, he can´t spread the floor for Drummond and Monroe. He has clear concers about his weight and he is injury-prone. Even if he´s considered the player with the best talent on board and the pistons took him, his trade value would be not worth anything until he proves he can contribute in the NBA. You can´t put him at #4 with all these question marks. 

    Maybe I don´t get the Draft board right, but as I understand this would virtually mean if the pistons would have the #4 pick and McLemore, Oladipo and Porter were gone they would take Noel, even if he´s essentially the same player as Drummond with less potential and more concers? COme on…no way…

    • Jun 23, 201312:21 pm
      by sop

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      What do the Pistons want with Noel? Noel would be a great asset going forward! Any time you have a chance to pick up the consensus #1 pick in the draft you do it regardless of position. The Pistons also need to add the Best Player Available who would EASILY be Noel at 4. Its most likely that the Pistons would deal this pick either on draft day or at the trade deadline in February and they would get a TON more for it than if drafted Burke or anyone else. Even if they kept Noel, he would be a great bargaining chip in Monroe’s future deal and would be an excellent replacement for Drummond off the bench. Anytime you can add a super athletic young big who is an insane rim protector this late in the draft then you do it. He should be #3.

      • Jun 23, 20131:52 pm
        by Jon

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        he is not the consensus #1 pick. there have been reports of the cavs considering everyone in the top 6 basically

        • Jun 23, 201311:40 pm
          by tarsier

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          Do you understand the term consensus? It is not synonymous with unanimous.

      • Jun 23, 20134:50 pm
        by KaBa

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        Well I’ve picked Len ahead of Noel cause he has a really nice overall play and truly think that he is going to be as good as Bogut before his injury. Having a Frontcourt with Monroe and Len and letting Drummond play as slasher from the bench. Although I understand why people are choosing Burke, I am still in the minority of people who think that MCW can keep up with Burke in the NBA.
         

    • Jun 23, 20132:57 pm
      by Matt

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      Our rookies don’t play till christmas anyway. You really think if by some act of God Burke falls to us he’ll play significant minutes to start with. Knight was the exception but we didn’t have a choice. Whoever we take won’t start till it’s clear we suck.

      • Jun 23, 201311:44 pm
        by tarsier

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        Yes, if the Pistons draft Knight, I expect he’ll start from day 1. It wouldn’t be shocking if he didn’t. But I would give that possibility odds.

        • Jun 24, 20131:25 am
          by Blocks by Dre

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          Well Knight’s already on the team and starting starting so…

  • Jun 23, 20132:02 pm
    by Greg

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    I certainly understand your point. A Draft day deal would be ideal and would bring back more assets, sure…but I think that if a draft day deal doesn´t happen then you are set to sell low on him. It would be comparable to the Sacramento Kings deal that sent Thomas Robinson to Houston. They got some assets back for him, but not the kind of assets a draft day deal would have brought. In the Noel situation that would be just about the same, but I think with his injury,  a window of 2 months up to the trade deadline would be to short to make any conclusions and after that, if he turns out to be a bust you would almost get nothing back for him.

    • Jun 23, 20133:41 pm
      by sop

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      No one predicts he will be a bust but the injury actually give you more time to deal him at full value. Also I don’t think Thomas Robinson is a good comparison in terms of value. Robinson proved to be unproductive next to Cousins and TRob is much older and less of an elite athlete than Noel so he has less upside.

  • Jun 23, 20132:50 pm
    by Max

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    Watching what Utah did when they got Favors and Kanter while already having Jefferson and Millsap makes me basically say that I will be very annoyed if the the Pistons take any big with their pick–no matter who it is.   Kanter and Favors have been stunted by the situation and their trade value has only gone down.   Meanwhile, Utah has not been a great team because of the unbalance of their roster and poor perimeter play.  Further, Utah was not even able to apparently get a good enough deal to move Millsap before this off season when they will probably lose him for nothing.  A wing, a point guard or bust for Detroit.     

    • Jun 23, 20134:42 pm
      by KaBa

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      Have you watched Kanter at all? He is doing great as a rookie with that bigs, especially for a guy who didn’t play for full one year. If I remeber right, towards the end of the season his minutes went really up. I like the idea of picking the bigest talent available, and I would certainly always pick Len and Noel ahead of Burke.

      • Jun 25, 20139:31 pm
        by Max

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        Sure, Kanter has come on and Favors has had his good stretches too but neither has offered sustained great play and they have not even gotten that opportunity because of minutes.   More importantly and to the point, Utah has not had good seasons with them and would have been a much better team if they had ever traded one or more of their big men for wings and guards.  You can only play five players at a time and with rare exception, you can’t play three big men at the same time.   Drummond, Monroe and the bigs of this draft in consideration are not candidates to play at the same time together.  

    • Jun 23, 201311:53 pm
      by tarsier

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      “Kanter and Favors have been stunted by the situation and their trade value has only gone down”

      How do you know how they would have developed in another setting or how their trade value would otherwise look? You could be right, but you could just as easily be wrong because you are comparing a partially known outcome to a completely unknown outcome.

      • Jun 25, 20139:35 pm
        by Max

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        Your point basically amounts to saying I am not allowed to have opinions or speculate on hypothetical situations which if true would render all sports board type discussion moot that aren’t purely statistical and already in the past.     I don’t think I could just as easily be wrong.  The facts of Utah are that arguably their best four players the past two seasons were competing for minutes at two positions.   If they had ever traded any of the four, minutes would have opened up for the other three and minutes are the most important aspect of any player’s development and standing in terms of trade value.  

  • Jun 24, 20138:48 am
    by Lee

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    KCP without a doubt!

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