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Shabazz Muhammad’s workout with Pistons reportedly ‘went well’

Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:

Source: Shabazz Muhammad worked out for the #Pistons today. "It went well"

When I said I wanted information on the workout to leak, I was hoping for a little more than this. It sounds like Muhammad is at least in play for the Pistons at No. 8, but really, there’s not much to take from any workout report aside from an overwhelming positivity or any negativity.

65 Comments

  • Jun 24, 201311:32 pm
    by gmehl

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    Its more smoke and mirrors. Shabazz is gonna drop all the way out of the lottery.

  • Jun 25, 201312:11 am
    by deusXango

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    If he’s there, I hope Joe D passes.

  • Jun 25, 201312:36 am
    by Filo Putz

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    I don’t see him doing anything to help make his teammates better I’d take a pass on him.

  • Jun 25, 20131:07 am
    by Vince

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    He is sliding so much faster than Jared Sullinger. I’ve seen some updated mocks slip to the 20s. Joe D better not draft him.

  • Jun 25, 20131:30 am
    by Filo Putz

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    If your interested in shooting guards in the second round check out Carrick Felix from ASU He’s the same size, but unlike Muhammad  his natural position is 2 guard. Pretty explosive and appears to have a good basketball IQ.

  • Jun 25, 20131:52 am
    by joe

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    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope need to be the #8 pick. I really got a Kobe feeling about this guy, if he can receive the proper guidance.  

    • Jun 25, 20132:00 am
      by tiko

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      I like KCP too but I dunno about the Kobe comparison… I like him a lot at 8

      I wanna trade for LaMarcus Aldridge… Monroe, Stuckey, and Singler or Jerebko 

      • Jun 25, 20132:26 am
        by joe

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        Man, if the Pistons could get Aldridge that would be major!

        I’m not comparing KCP to Kobe, but I feel he could be that superstar that come out of nowhere like Jordan, Kobe or Wade. 
         

      • Jun 25, 20135:22 am
        by oats

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        I wouldn’t do a Monroe for Aldridge trade without getting something back. It looks like a big upgrade if you only look at per game stats, but if you factor in the extra minutes played and it isn’t so clear cut. Aldridge is giving an extra 2.7 points per 36, but bringing in 2 rebounds fewer. That’s not a big difference in production for those guys. So the real advantage of the trade is that Aldridge has a jumper and Monroe doesn’t. I get that.
         
        The problem is he’s 5 years older than Greg. In 5 years Drummond will be turning 24 and beginning to hit his peak, Monroe will be 27 and in his prime, and Aldridge will be 32 and starting to decline. That does not make sense to me. 5 years down the road is when Detroit’s shot at a championship window should really be opening, but Aldridge would be declining and shutting it prematurely. If Aldridge was significantly better than Monroe then you suck it up and do it. They are actually pretty similar players though, so it doesn’t make sense to get that much older.

        • Jun 25, 20138:40 am
          by tarsier

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          Agreed. Also, I expect Monroe to be the better player of the two. Aldridge has hit his peak and is better than Monroe right now. Monroe should be a bit away from his peak yet and isn’t that far behind.

        • Jun 25, 20139:58 am
          by Russ

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          Oats you got it right you have to give a team time to mature and I like Monroe you also have to give players time to mature also. Monroe works hard at his game and soon will be an elite player. 

        • Jun 25, 201310:52 am
          by tarsier

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          Furthermore, how is Aldridge an upgrade over Jefferson or Millsap? The Pistons could probably get one of those without giving up an asset like Monroe.

          • Jun 25, 201312:02 pm
            by G

            Slightly better defender? At least Millsap, I think he’s a lot better than Jefferson on D.

        • Jun 25, 201312:03 pm
          by Huddy

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          I don’t see Aldridge going anywhere via trade.  His team lacks too much skill to give him up for anything that a team would realistically give them back.  Hes a good player, but hes caught in the cycle of being a good player on a bad team.

    • Jun 25, 20132:25 am
      by Lorenzo

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      I don’t think he has the handles of someone like Kobe….and I’m not sure he ever will… but man does he have a great skill set all the same. If he can get a bit stronger/put on a little weight (esp. in the upper body) and can get more disciplined as far as team defense & offense goes..then I certainly can see him reaching an all-star caliber level. With his well established athleticism, shooting, and one-on-one D’ he certainly has the raw tools to mature into a very good player….on the right team.

      ……and frankly Shabazz wouldn’t be a bad pick either. The kid is a pure scorer….he is as hard a worker as any that I have seen in a while. I think he has the work ethic and talent to be a solid 2 at the pro-level…if the kid is in the right place mentally (as good a question as any) and with the right organization…he will be a success in this league.   

      • Jun 25, 20132:31 am
        by joe

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        Thats why we got Cheeks, he should be able to improve KCP handles? 

        • Jun 25, 201312:12 pm
          by G

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          <He’ll improve KCP’s handles, make Brandon Knight a PG, help Stuckey hit threes and turn Calderon into a lock down defender. Every guard Cheeks has ever coached has turned into a world-beater and their weaknesses turned into strengths. Cheeks is the guru of guards, the Yoda of the backcourt…>

          If you can’t tell, I’m starting to get sick of this. 

    • Jun 25, 20134:14 am
      by Jens

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      OMG! Kobe is pretty certainly one of the top 10 guys in the NBA ALLTIME. This year, there is consensus, that there is no franchise changers, which probably means there is not any NBA top 30 Player in this draft.

      And you are comparing Kobe to a guy that likely is not going to make it top 10 in this draft.  

      • Jun 25, 20135:54 am
        by oats

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        Agreed. The Kobe comparison is crazy.

      • Jun 25, 201312:20 pm
        by G

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        KCP might be a homeless man’s Kobe Bryant, and in this draft I’d take a homeless man’s Kobe.

        • Jun 25, 20132:12 pm
          by tarsier

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          It doesn’t even make any sense to compare him to Kobe. Besides being nowhere close to the caliber of player Kobe is, their games aren’t that similar.

          • Jun 25, 20133:49 pm
            by oats

            I think he’s closer to Rip Hamilton if he hits his ceiling. Not quite as dynamic of a scorer, but a better defender. I don’t think he is likely to be that good, but I never expect a guy to hit his ceiling.

          • Jun 25, 20134:25 pm
            by G

            Agree, the Kobe comp is stupid. Homeless man’s Kobe puts it into perspective. KCP is more like… Dorell Wright? Nick Young with some D? 

          • Jun 26, 20137:45 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            its funny when this whole process started I compared Pope to Nick Young and “Oats” had a fit…

            But now he is a “Homeless man Kobe”, “Rip Hamilton but not a Dynamic Scorer”, and Friggin Dorell Wright

            So basically he is Jordan Crawford with better defense????

            But Take him at 8!

            You guys are funny

          • Jun 26, 20139:45 am
            by G

            It’s a bad draft. I was trying to think of decent 3&D guys that aren’t absolute lock down defenders (merely good ones), and Wright & Young were the best I could think of. There isn’t a good comparison for KCP because he’s MUCH better than Tony Allen on offense & doesn’t project as good on D. I think he’ll be better than Nick Young & Wright all around (so make that comp a “rich man’s Nick Young”), but they’re the closest.

            Unless one of the top guys slip to #8, I think a rich man’s Nick Young is about the best we can hope for. 

    • Jun 25, 20136:29 am
      by Filo Putz

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      Felix from ASU looks similar  to Pope. Definitely would be an upgrade over Kim English. I’d like to see him in the 2nd. round.

  • Jun 25, 20133:04 am
    by mshansky

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    The Pistons are so desperate for ANY new player that can upgrade this woeful franchise, the mediocre crop of draftees and free agents and trade bait is starting to be “massaged” by delusional fans, trying to find some nugget s among the garbage. Not one player that has been mentioned in the runup to the summer activities as a “possible” will change the fortunes of this team. Next season will be more of the same, after Joe D proclaims that another year together will reveal significant progress (which he did last October). It will take at least 2 more drafts to perhaps improve enough to be a playoff team. If they can keep Calderon and dump Stuckey, thats gonna be abput as good as it gets. RIP Moe Cheeks.
    Als, RIP Bobby Blue Bland…. 

    • Jun 25, 20134:18 am
      by Jens

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      It might get better with 2 more lottery picks. Problem is, Joe D traded next years away for nothing. And I´m not sure if the guys that got some perspective are staying. Greg and Andre that is.

    • Jun 25, 20135:59 am
      by Filo Putz

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      This post makes more sense than any i’ve seen on this board. The best that fans should hope for is an incremental improvement. If they barely get in the playoffs or just miss that would at least show a positive trajectory.

  • Jun 25, 20133:55 am
    by jacob

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    I wonder if the Pistons worked out KCP?

  • Jun 25, 20134:26 am
    by Jens

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    The thought of Joe D drafting Shabazz is so gut wrenching. I am getting a feeling like my grandma is supposed to perform open heart surgery if I am reading those reports on Pistons draft preparation.

    Just for the sake of Information. ESPN did a secrtet mock draft in which NBA Gms gave Points to this years prospects. Anonymously that was. Shabazz was ranked 21st! Whoever takes this guy in the top 15 is gonna get fired. 

    • Jun 25, 20136:09 am
      by Gareth Masters

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      It is pretty funny to think back to the 0-8 and everyone was buzzing about getting Shabazz with the #1 pick!! Thats the fun of the draft I suppose.

      I’m like the majority of everyone else – torn between Trey, CJ and Carter-Williams. With Trey just about having the edge. Something about that kid.

    • Jun 25, 20136:14 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      at Jens… Chad Ford didn’t even say how many GMS were involved he said “some” …and he didn’t even state whether the GMs have worked out any of the guys they are rating them on….some of the comments make no sense about the players and their value…  It seems like Chad Ford just really like Shabazz

      • Jun 25, 201310:31 am
        by Huddy

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        he said half of the 30 GMs participated.  For the most part Ford just discussed the score ranges of each player to show if there was consensus or if the GMs were split on the player’s potential…there weren’t many comments at all about specific things GMs were saying.

  • Jun 25, 20136:38 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    I feel like this if you really like another guy in this draft… @ Example Dan has a Man-Crush on Trey Burke and if it was his choice he would take Burke over a guy like Mclemore …. Or Oats ..who from day one had talked up Caldwell-Pope(which respect) … But at this Shabazz a has done nothing but prove he can play at this level through Workouts and Interviews and even in college …now 3 months later…he has changed his body everyone says he looks excellent, there are articles about how his game has improved …. Suns, Kings, Portland, Minnesota …have all been impressed with Shabazz, they all believe he will play SG…with his size being the advantage on offense and defense. If he was horrible or struggling in workouts Chad Ford would have reported it…

    The kid is a scorer, in a scorers league….he is 20 with plenty of room to improve, and he every one has he has a great work-ethic and will do what it takes to get better…

    The draft is two days away its a little too late and know most of your minds are made up…

     

    • Jun 25, 20138:54 am
      by Vince

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      Everyone thought Darko Milicic was going to be a star when he was drafted, Joe Alexander was supposed to be a force in the League, Hasheem Thabeet was supposed to be a franchise cornerstone, Marvin Williams was supposed to be the ultimate athlete, people thought Adam Morrison was going to average 20pts in the L…. Should I keep going?

      You criticize Dan and Oats for liking Burke and Pope – two players who have actually shown to be solid prospects and safe picks but you ride the Muhammad band-wagon as hard as possible. I’m not going to start my Bazz rant because I don’t have the time to, the bottom line is that Caldwell-Pope is the better prospect at 8, if Burke is available at 8 then it is a steal, if you took Muhammad at 8 you would be taking a fairly large risk. Take him at 14? Yeah sure, less risk.

      Now. If Muhammad has a better overall season than Burke/Caldwell-Pope then I will personally deposit $100 to your bank account, if he doesn’t I get to be the guy who said “I told you so” everytime we comment about this year’s draft. 

      • Jun 25, 201311:31 am
        by I HATE FRANK

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        “”Everyone thought Darko Milicic was going to be a star when he was drafted, Joe Alexander was supposed to be a force in the League, Hasheem Thabeet was supposed to be a franchise cornerstone, Marvin Williams was supposed to be the ultimate athlete, people thought Adam Morrison was going to average 20pts in the L…. Should I keep going?”"

        1. And your point is? That theres no sure thing?….When did i ever disagree with that? ..so once again whats your point

        “”You criticize Dan and Oats for liking Burke and Pope – two players who have actually shown to be solid prospects and safe picks but you ride the Muhammad band-wagon as hard as possible. I’m not going to start my Bazz rant because I don’t have the time to, the bottom line is that Caldwell-Pope is the better prospect at 8, if Burke is available at 8 then it is a steal, if you took Muhammad at 8 you would be taking a fairly large risk. Take him at 14? Yeah sure, less risk.”"

        2. Are you reading? or do you just see “I HATE FRANK” and “Shabazz” in the same point …and decide to rant blindly? I said “If you really another guy from day one I respect that) My problem comes when people do such a poor jub evaluating talent and ability. Especially when it right at your damn finger tips. My problem with burke is he isnt a need, My problem with pope is he is mainly just a shooter, yes he can defend but he isnt a elite defender (good look it up)…. But I’d pick POPE over Burke because Pope makes sense @SG he give the Pistons Balance. Once again If you like Pope or Burke more than Shabazz okay… that doesnt bother me, but when false and ignorant statement are made to inhance  a weak perspective it bothers me.

        “”Now. If Muhammad has a better overall season than Burke/Caldwell-Pope then I will personally deposit $100 to your bank account, if he doesn’t I get to be the guy who said “I told you so” everytime we comment about this year’s draft.”"

        3. Sure im down…No excuses tho…. If you look at the NBA, and look at the top 20 scorers in the league at SG and SF …they all play like Shabazz … Im not saying they are experts or great talent evaluators but jalen rose said Shabazz is a consistent jumper away from being a max player, Bill Simmons said your the type of guy that can come in right away and produce, Jay bilas said Shabazz will be a good player in the league comparing him to Oj mayo ( a scoring starter) deserving of a top 10 pick

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1671637-nba-podcast-jay-bilas-answers-biggest-questions-heading-into-2013-nba-draft

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfoPm0eeUg

        there are no sure things in this draft, but everyone says Shabazz can score and has an incredible work-ethic and desire to get better … All im saying is take away the name Shabazz and look at talent, ability and our need he just makes sense

    • Jun 25, 20134:01 pm
      by oats

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      I put a premium on what guys do on the court, not in workouts. Shabazz has moved up my draft board due to workouts, just not far enough to catch up to Pope. But just a reminder, I have Pope 7th on my board and I’d be disappointed in anyone outside the top 6. I’ve got a smaller drop off from 7 to 16 than from 6 to 7 as far as how I rate prospects. If Muhammad is the guy I’d be perfectly happy. He’s roughly an equivalent prospect in my books. Pope is a better fit in my opinion, but not a significantly higher rated player. 
       
      I’m starting to see why we disagree on so many prospects. I just don’t see the NBA as a scorer’s league. Scorer’s really only matter if they are real stars. It’s the guys that score a lot and score efficiently that take over games. We’re talking maybe 20 guys in the league at most. The Rudy Gay’s and Monta Ellis’s are nice to have, but they are no more important than the Kawhi Leonard’s or Luol Deng’s of the league. The Heat just won a championship playing defense. In Game 6, with their backs in a corner, they came out and completely shut down the Spurs. They almost lost to the Pacers and Spurs, two other top 10 defenses. Heck, a depleted Chicago team gave them a run based on defense. This isn’t just a scorer’s league, it’s a basketball league. The Pistons need scoring, but they also need defense. Pope actually helps with both. Muhammad should be the guy who puts up more points, but I’m not convinced he’ll be quite as efficient. Pope’s shooting fills a need, but it’s his defense that is why I would take him over Muhammad.

  • Jun 25, 20136:57 am
    by Kaneda

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    Ideally, imo, we would draft Burke at #8, then try and trade Brandon Knight and maybe a future 1st/2nd rounder for KCP. Then focus on bringing in a SF trough FA or via trade. I personally would like Wilson Chandler or Luol Deng. If something like this happened I would be ecstatic

    • Jun 25, 20138:45 am
      by tarsier

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      No way is KCP worth Knight + a future first rounder. Knight + a second rounder, I would consider.

      • Jun 25, 20134:02 pm
        by oats

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        Agreed. Especially since Knight probably gets the draft rights for Glen Rice Jr straight up, and there isn’t a huge drop off there.

    • Jun 25, 20138:49 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      Why not…A unproven rookie backcourt, in one of the most widely evaluated drafted in the last 10 years… makes perfect sense

      • Jun 25, 20139:00 am
        by Vince

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        I’d take Caldwell-Pope/Burke over Stuckey/Knight any day of the week.

        • Jun 25, 201310:21 am
          by I HATE FRANK

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          im sure you would

          still doesnt me it makes sense

          • Jun 25, 201310:35 am
            by Kaneda

            While Knight/Stuckey backcourt has proven what exactly over the past two years? Or do you consider Burke/Knight or MCW/Knight a proven backcourt?
             
             

          • Jun 25, 201310:50 am
            by Vince

            Here are four SGs. Who do you draft? They all played major roles on their teams, all have been described as good offensive players with an all around game, three have seen their stock rise, one has had their stock slide – which ones? One player was described as being a sleeper with great potential, another has been described as one of the most polished skillset,  yet another has been described as having a great motor and the remaining one has been described as a legitimate all around threat if they were to put on more weight. Who do you draft? Why? 

            Player A: 6FT5 185 LBS

            15.9 PTS .495FG% .420 3P% .870FT% 5.2REB 2.0AST 0.7BLK 1.0STL 2.1TO

            Player B: 6FT6 255 LBS

            17.9 PTS .443FG% .377 3P% .711FT% 5.2REB 0.8AST 0.1BLK 0.7STL 1.6TO

            Player C: 6FT5 205 LBS

            18.5 PTS .433FG% .373 3P% .799FT% 7.1REB 1.8AST 0.5BLK 2.0STL 2.0TO

            Player D: 6FT5 205 LBS

            17.0 PTS .413FG% .280 3P% .786FT% 9.5REB 3.3AST 0.8BLK 1.6STL 3.4TO

             

          • Jun 25, 201311:19 am
            by jacob

            a? maybe

          • Jun 25, 201311:37 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            @ I know the players associated with the stats….

            But I will say to Jacob put them in order…

          • Jun 25, 201311:43 am
            by jacob

            a c d b

          • Jun 25, 201312:19 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

              B – is Shabazz…he had the best catch and shoot percentage 40% than any guard projected in the lottery other than Cj McCullom. He doesnt weight 255 , he is about 215-218 right now . People question can he defend the 2 position in the NBA

             D – Jamal Franklin instense and extremely active does all of the little things, but he is a very inconsistent shooter, lives of putbacks, hustle point and being scrappy

            C – Caldwell Pope , has legit NBA 3 point range, and he is a wonder straight line athlete, and has defensive potential, but he lacks handles, and over half of all his shot attempts were 3 pointers (he settles)

            A. Mclemore – great athlete, and can really shoot the ball…but shrinks in big time situations, and struggles to create his own offense in the half-court set 

            Mines would go

            Mclemore- most well put together player in the draft
            Shabazz – most versatile offensive player
            Pope – Best shooter
            Franklin – most scrappy

          • Jun 25, 201312:27 pm
            by G

            You forgot to mention that KCP plays better D than anyone else on that list. 

          • Jun 25, 201312:30 pm
            by G

            Oh, and @ I HATE FRANK – taking a lot of threes doesn’t necessarily mean KCP “settles”. He actually averaged more points per attempt on threes than on twos, meaning the three was a better shot for him to take.

          • Jun 25, 201312:55 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

            @ G I said defensive potential…but i’ve also read he still has alot to be desired in man to man defense….

          • Jun 25, 20131:05 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

            @ G ..I didnt make it up…Im going what what they say…

            He forced alot of bad shots, and settled. Now im not saying he cant or wont get better but its what happened. I know the draftexpress video isnt the aphla and omega for scouting but when you get to his weakness and when you read about him its what they say

          • Jun 25, 20131:43 pm
            by G

            He’s still the best defender in that group, regardless of whether his man-to-man still needs work or not. And taking a lot of threes isn’t “settling” when it’s your most efficient shot.
            KCP Points Per Attempt:
            2PA – 1.0
            3PA – 1.12

            I’m sure he had to settle a lot with such shitty teammates, but know that taking a lot of threes does not equal “settling for bad shots”. Steph Curry took 600 threes this year. Does than mean he “settled”?

          • Jun 25, 20132:16 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

            Because Curry was also a threat taking opponets off the dribble…

            http://nbadraft.net/players/kentavious-caldwell-pope

            Weaknesses:
            Caldwell-Pope’s repertoire is highly dependent on perimeter accuracy. Often takes the easy way out, settling for long range bombs rather than using his athleticism. 52% of his shots come from behind the arc. Smooth athlete, but lacks short range quickness or explosiveness — while he uses the dribble adeptly to buy space for jumpers (hesitation and step back), he does not possess blow by or shake up handles to get all the way to the rim. Attack needs to be encouraged. Adding strength would promote a more aggressive mentality as well. Does not serve as a facilitator with the ball in his hands, rarely aiding the cause of teammates. Posted a negative assist: turnover ratio of 1.8:2. Defensive prowess notwithstanding, he can be flighty at times and choose potential rewards over standard awareness; a trait not aided by his team’s inability to score.

            http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kentavious-Caldwell-Pope-6240/

            Caldwell-Pope’s ability to rise up and bury difficult shots can be somewhat of a curse at times as well, as he tends to rely very heavily on this part of his game and can be naturalized relatively effectively by a taller and longer defender. In the half-court, just 19% of Caldwell-Pope’s shot attempts come around the basket.

            As a slasher, Caldwell-Pope still remains raw, especially operating on the ball, where he shows little in the way of advanced ball-handling and even has trouble with anything more difficult than straight-line drives. He does a better job operating off the ball, where his lack of ball-handling skills don’t impede his athletic gifts, but still could be much better overall in all areas finishing around the hoop. At the moment he doesn’t possess the strength and toughness needed to take hits around the basket and finish, as he tends to collapse in a heap at the first sign of contact at the rim.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWJ-1QS4To (Fast Forward to 10 mins)

            So once again…im not saying he cant get better…but Im not making stuff up….

          • Jun 25, 20134:41 pm
            by G

            Maybe you aren’t making stuff up, but all I was saying was taking a lot of threes does not mean the player is settling. And all flaws included, he’s still the best defender in that group. So…

          • Jun 26, 20137:50 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            you guys are overhyping his defense…

            I struggled to defend higher caliber offensive players

  • Jun 25, 201310:09 am
    by jacob

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    3. KENTAVIOUS CALDWELL-POPE, SG, GEORGIA

    Caldwell-Pope’s Projections | Age: 20

    WIN %WARPFORD’S RANK

    Caldwell-Pope’s draft profile | Top 100 prospects

    .469
    2.6
    11

    Caldwell-Pope rates atop a deep group of shooting guards, thanks in large part to his versatility. With good size for the position, Caldwell-Pope contributes on the glass and has an excellent steal rate. As a pro, Caldwell-Pope may be more efficient than he was as the first option on offense at Georgia.

    • Jun 25, 201312:30 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      Analytic are so overrated especially for players coming out of college because it don’t take into account growth,development,heart, system, coaching ect

  • Jun 25, 201310:11 am
    by jacob

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    27. SHABAZZ MUHAMMAD, SF, UCLA

    Muhammad’s Projections | Age: 20

    WIN %WARPFORD’S RANK

    Muhammad’s draft profile | Top 100 prospects

    .335
    -0.7
    17

    Since I covered Muhammad’s weaknesses during the season, his projection has only gotten worse. Now, Muhammad and Plumlee are the lone top-30 players projected to rate worse than a replacement-level player — the type of free agent available for the minimum. Among past players with subreplacement projections, about one-sixth have ended up actually performing better than replacement in the NBA.

    • Jun 25, 20131:17 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      First off every Coach, GM, Scout.. views Shabazz as a SG….

      Based off Last Year WARP Projections..(this is how the Lottety would have looked….done 2 days after the draft…something are nice to read for entertainment, but you cant take the human element out of it

      1. Anthony Davis
      2. Jared Sullinger
      3. Andre Nicholas
      4.Tony Wroten JR
      5. Terrance Jones
      6. Festus Ezelie
      7. Tyler Zeller
      8. Thomas Robinson
      9.Harrison Barnes
      10. Andre Drummond
      11. Damian Lillard
      12.John Henson
      13. Dion Waiter
      14.Bradley Beal

  • Jun 25, 201311:53 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Just saw CJ McCullom interview… With Jalen and Bill simmons…

    Cj McCullom will be the pistons pick…he is the type of player Joe loves…

    It bother me that he is another small guard but I see it happening 

  • Jun 25, 201312:19 pm
    by mshansky

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    I nave been a Piston fan for over 40 years. I am going to watch their games on the tube, and root for them to show a major improvement in the coming season. However, optimism is really not justified at this time, given the mediocre players we are likely to obtain through draft, free agency, and trades. The list of potential draftees holds little hope of even a starter, much less a game changer. The free agent list is equally as disappointing, especially since the only worthwhile acquisitions will have no reason to come to detroit. As for trades, who wants ANY of our players, except Drummond. It is a fantasy to project Monroe, Knoght, Stuckey, Maxiell as desirable pieces for another team (which probably wants to improve themselves through trading). If the Pistons could pick up even a couple of bench players that were worthy, i would consider this offseason a success. Still, that is no reason to pay money to attend a game in person. Getting rid of Stuckey would, in itself, constitute an improvement. I think expectations for the coming season are too high now, even a .500 season seems out of reach to me. And please dont expect Cheeks to “improve the team” through coaching. Not gonna happen. Stay patient and wait 2 more years….hopefully Joe D will be gone, maybe even Gores, and the real rebuilding will commence. Until then, go Tigers, Lions, Wings….. 

  • Jun 26, 20139:58 am
    by brownie

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    Personally, I wouldn’t mind drafting Burke at #8, and hopefully we can trade Stuckey and #37 pick to move back up in the first round to get a 2-guard, there will be plenty of them available late in the first round

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