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Lawrence Frank-Jonas Jerebko relationship described as mutual ‘disdain’

Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:

Jerebko didn’t get along with Frank, and poor player relations was a huge reason for Frank’s dismissal.

Frank banished Jerebko to the bench from November to the middle of February, as their relationship deteriorated to the point where their disdain for one another was an open secret.

“It was a tough year, looking back on it,” Jerebko said. “I’m excited for a fresh start and I know my teammates are too. Guys are ready to get going with a coach and fresh start.”

Jonas Jerebko and Lawrence Frank obviously faced their difficulties, but I didn’t realize it had gotten that bad.

Jerebko started the season terribly, and Frank was right to bench him. Jerebko was shooting and dribbling too much, defending and rebounding too little. Jerebko can be a very productive reserve, but not when he’s playing with that mindset.

Frank probably buried Jerebko too deeply, but remember, when Jerebko finally returned to the rotation, his on-court approach had improved. Whether or not Frank’s handling of Jerebko led to the change, the result was positive, as the Pistons got the hustle player who they needed.

The problem, it seems, was communication. Frank didn’t have the trust of his players, so when he benched them, unhappiness grew more than it would with most coaches, apparently to the point of “disdain.”

Maurice Cheeks should help these issues immediately, especially with Jerebko, who already seems receptive to Cheeks’ instructions.

32 Comments

  • Jun 20, 20139:48 am
    by MrShourite

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    Way to play nice Dan. 

  • Jun 20, 20139:54 am
    by MrShourite

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    Just curious…anyone hear anything about how C.J MAC  and MCW looked yesterday in workouts? 

    • Jun 20, 201310:42 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      i know we were waiting for a Coach…

      but unless we got our minds made up

      We waited way too late for start the workout Process for players we’ll draft with the 8th pick…

      The draft is next week… Several of this guys have worked over several times, some of them have travelled back and forth across the country, they are banged up tired and bruised…some wont be able to workout being ankle sprains and ect….

      Not good…

      • Jun 20, 201311:03 am
        by Jon

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        that shouldn’t really be a big deal. if they can’t handle traveling all over the country and performing at peak levels, they won’t be in the league long anyways

        • Jun 20, 201311:23 am
          by I HATE FRANK

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          It matters…

          but when again…

          We didnt workout Greg, Knight or Drummond …so

        • Jun 20, 201311:35 am
          by Huddy

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          Seriously guys who are going to be professional basketball players playing an 82 game season across the country cant handle a couple of weeks of work outs and travel pre draft?  How on earth could that possibly matter?  I’d like to see how they play after a couple weeks of workout and travel since they are going to be consistently playing and traveling far more than “several times” during the season.

      • Jun 20, 20132:19 pm
        by zdh

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        its not like these workouts are full speed 5 on 5 games either. they work hard during them but they arent the most physically taxing. i dont think there is any issue with waiting until now for these workouts.

  • Jun 20, 20139:54 am
    by ryank

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     At least it didn’t turn into a full blown  mutiny like Kuester.  In fact, kuester’s situation might have been what kept Frank’s situation from growing into something much uglier.   The players don’t want to have on  their resume they did that to back to back coaches

  • Jun 20, 20139:58 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    I wouldnt have have minded him taking Jonas out of the starting line-up or even cutting his minds…but to bench the guy who was known for his hustle just sent a bad message….

    and who knowns what took place one on one …. or behind the doors…

    But jonas has played for several coaches as a Piston, and everyone praised him for his hardwork…maybe Jonas felt pressure to be more and do more and it backfired…

    Mayeb Frank should have pull him into the office …..Said… J.J. your trying to do too much, we need you to lead by example with your defense, and hustling. You’re more valueable to the team that way, I know you want to play SF , but we need you at PF more than SF because you can help stretch the defense, and you perfect for when we have to defend against the small ball that the league is play. You’ve worked so hard to come back from the injury, and your an inspiration not only to your teammates but this city…so that what I need from you…

    Vs the rumors that he never explain to J.J. exactly why he was benched and they barely had any commication

    • Jun 20, 201310:36 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      “cutting his minutes “

    • Jun 20, 201310:59 am
      by Tony J

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      Umh, Jerebko only played for 2 coaches and Cheeks is the 3rd.

      • Jun 20, 201311:24 am
        by I HATE FRANK

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        thought it was 3 …but either way

  • Jun 20, 201310:11 am
    by omar

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    The same kind of articles were posted when we hired Frank and Kuester. 

  • Jun 20, 201310:16 am
    by MrShourite

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    Yeah, I agree benching a hustle player for shooting poorly (Jonas) for a streaky shooting player that hustles poorly (Charlie V.) is a bad look, and sends a contradictory message for a coach who emphasized defense first. 

  • Jun 20, 201310:38 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    The real inside scoop is Jonas parked in Frank spot one day before a game and it pissed Frank off…

  • Jun 20, 201310:40 am
    by Matt

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    So basically we mutiny against Kuester and almost mutiny against Frank. Not to mention the year we took of when it was Curry. That doesn’t say much for the coach, players, or Dumars. I would hate to be Cheeks right now. It almost feels like to be successful he just needs to not have a mutiny.

    • Jun 20, 201310:48 am
      by I HATE FRANK

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      We went from having one of the most High-Profiled coaching era…Carisle, Larry Brown, Flip … to Curry , Kuester, Lawerence…

      Carlise leaves Detroit…Wins a title eventually in Dallas
      Larry Brown Wins a title in Detroit…and just does what Larry Brown Does (gets bored)
      Flip Leaves Detroit….gets another head coaching Job..he is now a GM

      Curry goes from assistant to Head coach back to Assistant trying be a head coach
      Kuester assistant to head coach back to assistant…no talks of him being a head coach
      Franl assistant to Head coach, back to assistant, to head coach …currently unemployed but will likely be an assistant again…

      Im hoping that cheeks breaks the cycle

      • Jun 20, 201311:34 am
        by Matt

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        Assistant in Philly, 2 head coach jobs, back to Assistant, now head coach again. Sounds familiar but I’m willing to give him a chance. We just need to give him an opportunity to succeed. Trade Stuckey and it’ll get rid of a mutiny ring leader. We nead an attitude change first than our rookies can start to improve and Cheeks can run a real gameplan knowing his players will actually try.

  • Jun 20, 201310:43 am
    by deusXango

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    Vernon Macklin 2.0?

  • Jun 20, 201310:45 am
    by Jens

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    Jonas has been in Detroit for three years now , although he spent the second rehabbing his torn Achilles. I have lost any confidence that he is going to be worth his 4.5 mill/year contract. He really shined in international Play in Europe last summer, but he has the same Problem as Brandon Knight and so many Pistons right now:: Consistency! As Long as he doesn´t have a more consistent shot he´s no more than a 6ft10 guy too weak physically to Play the 4 and not quick or skilled enough to Play the 3. So I hope his Shooting improves. In that case he should Play instead of Charlie V (wo hopefully will be amnestied) 

    • Jun 20, 201312:02 pm
      by Filo Putz

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       At 6’10″ he has weak upper body strength and is a poor post defender, easily pushed around in the block. 

  • Jun 20, 201311:30 am
    by rick77

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    Too funny this blog. Let everyone tell it Stuckey was the problem, but no wait it was actually the coach. Like I said people are quick to look and blame the athlete never to take into consideration maybe the coach is in over his head.. I find his article really telling and would like to think that people would take caution as well as pause before they speak. No one on this blog has any insider information so we should stop posting like we do. Jus saying… 

    • Jun 20, 201311:43 am
      by Matt

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      I agree Stuckey IS the problem. If the guy wouldn’t listen to any coach we’ve gotten maybe it’s him. This team seriously needs an attitude change. This is not a cohesive unit it’s 13 egotistic individuals. If that doesn’t change it doesn’t matter who coaches or who we draft, we’ll still suck and the palace attendance will still be less than a high school game.

      • Jun 20, 20131:47 pm
        by sebastian

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        Call me a Stuckey fan, but Curry, Kuester, and L. Frank were not quality Head Coaches.
        A full season with Mo’ Cheeks and we will see a totally different Rodney Stuckey that has been perceived by the Stuckey-haters.

        • Jun 20, 20134:01 pm
          by tarsier

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          Just like “upgrading” from Curry to Kuester was supposed to help. And then the same when moving on to Frank. I see no reason to believe Cheeks is an improvement over Frank. Or that Stuckey is anything more than what we’ve seen, which is a serviceable player, but not a particularly valuable one.

    • Jun 20, 20131:57 pm
      by G

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      Major difference between this situation and what went on with Stuckey – we ALL knew what was happening with Stuckey as it happened. He did a whole bunch of sulking, etc, and was basically a b*tch about it. Jerebko took it without letting it affect his play or body language on the court.

      • Jun 20, 20133:40 pm
        by rick77

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         I Can u get me the article that has all these factoids. You sound like a hater. No need for me to get into with you but you talk a lot shit on here like you have some basketball knowledge that most of us know nothing about. This shit is borderline ridiculous. What cause Stuckey took over the fans sacred cow in “Billups” that’s why you hate him. I would have bitched too if that dumb ass hat of a coach told me to go to the perimeter and my game is b \ased upon driving the lane. Get a clue man. Sometimes you say some respectable things but when you state shit as gospel I’m going call you out on it. Please tell me when because I don’t think one dust up with the coach is enough to warrant your assessment wholly. Regardless if it happened out loud or not the coach was dumb an this justifies it period. My point was to get off dudes back and see what happens when he gets the chance to play under a coach, you know, who actually played the game.

        • Jun 20, 20133:41 pm
          by rick77

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          “because”   “based”

  • Jun 20, 20131:29 pm
    by GARY LEMMEN CEO

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    DUMARS HAS TANKED THE PISTONS WITH POOR CHOICES AND SHOULD BE FIRED.  THEY WILL GO NOWHERE WITH JOE CALLING THE SHOTS.

  • Jun 20, 20132:24 pm
    by james searcy

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    You said Jonas started the season off terribly. Jonas was playing well until he got hit in the head by Thomas Robinson in the Sacramento he was not the same player after that incident and was subsequently benched.

  • Jun 20, 20139:03 pm
    by koz

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    frank never played the game, cheeks has, this should make a difference to the players. everyone here is too pessimistic, things are going to improve this time for certain, its a full moon just relax.

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