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Joe Dumars, Tom Gores reach ‘consensus’ on Maurice Cheeks as top coaching choice

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

Oklahoma City Thunder assistant Mo Cheeks has emerged as the strong frontrunner to become the Detroit Pistons’ head coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Discussions on a contract could begin soon, league sources said.

Detroit’s ownership and management reached a consensus on Cheeks as their choice, league sources said.

I’m completely against hiring Cheeks, but at this point, it looks inevitable. No other team has been reported to courting Cheeks – part of the reason I don’t support the move – so it’s unlikely a deal falls through. It sounds like it’s just a matter of time until they reach a deal in principle.

109 Comments

  • Jun 6, 20139:09 pm
    by jprime18

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    Ugh.

    That is all. 

  • Jun 6, 20139:19 pm
    by gmehl

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    Well this news just fcked up my weekend!

  • Jun 6, 20139:24 pm
    by Zay

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    If this guy is hired its definitely time for Joe D. to be fired.

    • Jun 6, 201310:57 pm
      by TheDude

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      oh is it? Did Dumars have everything to do with the choice being “consensus” 
       
      Read the title of the article

    • Jun 7, 201312:09 am
      by jacob

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      HAHAHA the guy that employs Joe D agrees. Wow you are a different kind of stupid.

    • Jun 7, 20137:32 am
      by G

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      Make no mistake, this is Dumars’ hire. He’s been in favor of Cheeks and McMillan since the beginning, don’t give him a pass on this. I’m holding out hope that somebody else comes along, but it’s a slim hope.

      • Jun 8, 20136:06 pm
        by Scott Free

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        Heck, out of the two, I’m not sure they even picked the better uninspiring choice!

  • Jun 6, 20139:34 pm
    by acr

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    I know that I’m in the minority here (and I’m sure that I’ll hear about it below), but I like Cheeks and think that he could help us develop over the next few years.  Yes he’s had mediocre record as a HC, but I’ve just got a good feeling about him for some reason – I think he’s a good fit with our young players.  And if I’m wrong, then him and Dumars will be out in two years and move on.  

    Just get the coach search over with and get to the more important stuff – getting a few more good players, who will ultimately determine how much we improve next year.  No matter who the coach is, we need a few more pieces to make a jump.

    • Jun 6, 201310:27 pm
      by frankie d

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      That is ridiculous.  getting the right coach is probably the most important thing the team can do.  doing it quickly to get it over with is dumb.

      • Jun 6, 201310:46 pm
        by acr

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        no.  notice how all the “good” coaches on the market now aren’t coming here?  Players man, it’s about the players first.

        • Jun 6, 201310:47 pm
          by acr

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          and quickly?  they’ve taking longer than almost every team.  

        • Jun 6, 201311:28 pm
          by frankie d

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          BS.  the coach is the most important component.
          what defines a “good” coach?  someone with experience and a record.  
          would rick carlisile have been defined as a “good” coach when joe d hired him?
          no.
          who cares if a guy has experience.  the gm’s job is to find the best guy, and if you just go to the retread pile, instead of looking at new guys, then shame on  you.
          cheeks is an absolute horrible choice.  
          so, 2 years from now, when they fire cheeks, i will brag about knowing how horrible he was….
          and i will remind all the idiots who talked about cheeks as a “?good” choice, how wrong they were.
           

          • Jun 6, 201311:43 pm
            by acr

            ok.

          • Jun 7, 201312:23 am
            by jacob

            ACR you are absolutely correct. It’s about player development. Cheeks had bad rosters and situations in the past. Gores and Dumars both agree on this. After his third interview I did some research and can see why they might hire him. He is from a tough town just like the D.

          • Jun 7, 201312:53 am
            by frankie d

            no.  you are dead wrong.  it is about his personality.
            cheeks simply laid back and stated that he couldn’t control what grown men did.  his position was that he expected players to conduct themselves in a certain way and if they didn’t, there wasnt much he could do about it.
            imho, that is simply the kind of man, person, cheeks is.  5 years, 10 years, it wont matter.  he will approach problems and issues the same way.  i know plenty of people like that and i like them as people.  i dont want a guy like that coaching any team i root for.
            there will always be difficult players on any team.
            this fan would prefer a guy like mcmillan, who takes a much more assertive role in interpersonal relationships within a team structure.

          • Jun 7, 201312:57 am
            by frankie d

            you did research on  him?
            i freaking watched the teams he coached.  i didnt need to do research.  i saw it play out in real time.
            ridiculous stuff.  players cursing him out.  players ignoring his play calls.  players constantly getting into trouble off court.
            some of it was the roster composition, sure.  but a lot of it was his approach to discipline.  
            cheeks is who he is.  nice guy, but i would not want him as my coach. 

          • Jun 7, 20131:26 am
            by jacob

            FRANKIE D, you tell grown men what to do when the are not at work? If you’re talking about the jailblazers and blaming it on him then I think you might be wrong. These were immature young men. It took Raweed to come to the pistons to grow up. Even then he still acted like a child. Most technicals I’ve ever seen just for acting childish.

  • Jun 6, 20139:50 pm
    by Reaction

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    Well I guess I’ll give him a chance. Maybe he can do work with Knight. All I know is if this falls through, Gores better have the balls to fire Dumars. 

  • Jun 6, 20139:58 pm
    by CityofKlompton

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    Wow. This is incredibly disappointing. I could live with McMillan, but Cheeks seems like an awful choice. Ugh…

  • Jun 6, 201310:02 pm
    by Darin

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    I like the hire. Is he better than Mcmillan not sure. I think he’ll help our young guys improve though.

  • Jun 6, 201310:03 pm
    by Seto

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    Well, we just have to give him a shot – but it still sucks, there were much better coaches around and after such a long search for HC I expected someone else

    • Jun 7, 201312:00 am
      by jacob

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      Who was going to come to Detroit? Memphis, LA, Brooklyn and Philly are looking. All of these are more attractive options than Detroit. So who was coming here? Tell me please who is the else that you are looking for?

      • Jun 7, 201312:38 am
        by Jon

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        why is philly more attractive than detroit? detroit has two cornerstone big men and a talented but inconsistent young guard. philly has a borderline allstar guard, a good young sg/sf with limited upside and a broken big man who if they don’t resign they’ll be laughed at and if they do will be laughed at. its going downhill in philly

        • Jun 7, 201312:55 am
          by jacob

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          Philly is Philly. Ask espn if you really want to know. I don’t. I love Michigan and Detroit.

          • Jun 7, 20132:05 am
            by Seto

            well, I was looking for McMillan or Drew or Fizdale – I never believed in Shaw or Hollins or others, they are looking for bigger jobs…but we have history, solid young nucleus and we are playing in the East, there is bigger chance to make the playoffs + it´s almost always about money and I think Gores can provide them. So I don´t see a reason why other coaches should not think about Detroit

          • Jun 7, 20138:44 am
            by tarsier

            I left Michigan to live in Philly just because Philly is a more enjoyable place to live. But I still think the Detroit job would be the more appealing of the two if Detroit hadn’t built up such a reputation as a coach killer.

      • Jun 7, 20138:47 am
        by tarsier

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        That’s Dumars’ job. Is it hard to sell desirable coaches/FAs on coming to Motown? Probably. But he’s being paid millions of dollars to do it. If Dumars can’t do his job, why is Gores paying him? Give someone else a chance who might be able to.

  • Jun 6, 201310:09 pm
    by frankie d

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    what a joke.  as a portland resident i saw the difference between cheeks’ clubs and mcmillan’s teams.  night and day.
    mcmillan is the far superior coach.
    what a horrible move.  
    and if mcmillan was not an option, go for a young unknown guy. 

  • Jun 6, 201310:09 pm
    by Keith

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    Incredibly disappointing, but not unexpected. Cheeks is currently a main assistant for a team that has set the bar for player development and worst-to-first culture change. This is what bad GMs do – they take a stab at what worked for someone else, and hope it does the same for them. Nevermind that Cheeks is the assistant under a great GM, under a coach that, while lacking in X’s and O’s, has incredible rapport with and respect from his players. Yeah, Joe, grab the assistant for a great organization who has consistently failed as a head coach.
     
    I’m sure someone in management is thinking we’ll be the toast of the town by next year, the rightful successors to OKC’s legacy. But it’s foolish, and it’s going to be Frank all over again. Cheeks will say the right things, and players may even like him. But how much does that matter when he can’t coach a working offense or solid defense?
     
    This is just becoming a classic Pistons move. Grab a nobody because all the top candidates don’t want to work with you, and because when you fire them again to save your own job, no fan will argue that they did a poor job.

    • Jun 6, 201311:18 pm
      by Vic

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      yeah OKC has built great talent and culture but their actual coaching sucks as far as decision making is concerned

      • Jun 7, 201312:25 am
        by jacob

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        Terrible coaches usually do beat the Spurs in the playoffs and make it to the finals.

        • Jun 7, 201312:41 am
          by Jon

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          they do when they have the best three players in the series and i don’t think i’m overrating harden when i say that though it is debatable 

          • Jun 7, 201312:57 am
            by jacob

            Tony parker is the second best player in the NBA.

          • Jun 7, 20139:14 am
            by tarsier

            Tony Parker is really, really good. But he is absurdly overrated these days. He is arguably the second best player on his own team. And on’t forget, Popovich makes everyone look better than they really are.

        • Jun 7, 20135:47 am
          by Vic

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          They won because if talent and lost because of decision making, it’s well documented

  • Jun 6, 201310:11 pm
    by Coach_Ackley

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    Well I’m not happy about the hire of Cheeks but I’ll take the wait and see approach… Maybe just maybe he learned a few things with the Thunder that’ll make him a better coach now then he was with Philly…

  • Jun 6, 201310:14 pm
    by Mark

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    Let’s see who we draft and pick up as free agents before we doom the team to failure. I think he will have a stabilizing influence on the players especially Knight who may yet make a good point guard(yeah I said it).

    • Jun 7, 20131:54 pm
      by sebastian

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      Mark, I am cautiously optimistic, too. I am interested, though in learning who will make up his staff.

  • Jun 6, 201310:21 pm
    by elshark81

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    The candidates we seemed to be in the running for were underwhelming. I wonder what ol’ Phil’s thoughts on Cheeks were. As a fan McMillan seemed to be slightly more appealing a candidate. After hearing this news I did some research on Mo Cheeks and saw that he was also an assistant under our old friend Larry Brown in Philly from 97-2001 and part of the staff that went to the finals.

    There’s also this nugget of championship success:
    A native of Chicago, he began his coaching career with the Quad City Thunder of the CBA. In his only season with Quad City, Cheeks helped guide the club to the CBA Championship. 

    So yup, he’s a proven winner!  ;) 

    • Jun 6, 201311:44 pm
      by jacob

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      Yes. Must be the same things I saw. I also looked at his rosters every year he coached. They were not very good at all. Seriously his rosters were below average. He does great work with point guards. Also we can get some good assistants. He was a great player on a championship team and also coached on championship teams. All this negativity is ridiculous. I think he is the best fit for our team.

  • Jun 6, 201310:25 pm
    by Corey

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    I don’t really get it – other than that everyone likes to complain.  How many coaches come out of the chrysalis as perfectly formed superstar coaches with nothing to learn? I don’t see a lot of reason to be greatly optimistic or pessimistic on this hire. He’s had two head coaching gigs where he was competent but not spectacular, and several more years as an assistant since. He might be good – at least he should walk in with the players’ respect, which we haven’t had in quite a while. He was a damn good point guard as a player, suggesting he might possibly know something about how to play the biggest problem position this team has had for a few years. 
    Also – does anyone want to say he ever had a great roster that underperformed because of his coaching? One might argue that his Portland teams underperformed, but I’m not sure Popovich and Jackson together could have coached the JailBlazers to playoff success.
     

    • Jun 6, 201310:34 pm
      by frankie d

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      the portland players ran the team.  they treated cheeks like he was the ballboy. his entire thing was that he should not have to discipline players.  that players should discipline themselves. 
      good luck in today’s nba with that philosophy. 

      • Jun 6, 201310:52 pm
        by acr

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        dude it was 10 years and two jobs ago, get over it.  Give the dude a chance at least.

        • Jun 7, 201310:31 am
          by danny

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          not my choice but give him a shot with this unit.  people are ready to throw him to the wolves before he is even hired. 

      • Jun 6, 201311:45 pm
        by jacob

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        Look at the roster in Portland. Bunch of fools. They all had to be traded away. It’s going to be more about our players anyways. No matter who we hired. Hollins, Shaw, and Karl were not coming here.

        • Jun 7, 201312:08 am
          by frankie d

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          Who cares about “name” coaches
          Do your homework.  Find someone who has not been given their chance.  Joe did it once…why cant he do it again? 

          • Jun 7, 20131:42 am
            by City of Klompton

            I think he’s a little leery.  I’m not saying you are wrong because I am not thrilled with this hire either, but after giving Curry and Kuester their chance and seeing how horribly that crashed and burned, I think he is a little timid on hiring somebody without that kind of experience, IMO.

  • Jun 6, 201310:30 pm
    by Edgar

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    This is a lateral move at best, if it happens. I would’ve much preferred a younger coach with exciting ideas and an innovative, analytics-influenced offensive system. That’s the way the league is headed and we’re going to fall behind another couple of years. Next year, I bet we just see a bunch of Stuckey/McCollum isolation plays, win 25-30 games, and end up with the 7th-9th pick again. Treadmill.

  • Jun 6, 201310:35 pm
    by Black_Magic

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    I read an article saying that Cheeks was vitale to the development of Russell Westbrook, and Brandon Knight was one of the main topics in the interviews. I dont hate the guy, but I dont love it. He was a pretty decent player himself, so ima wait to rip him

    • Jun 6, 201310:46 pm
      by Edgar

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      Yeah, I’ve read that too. But, how much credit can a coach get for “developing” a guy like Westbrook? He’s just a great player and he was from the jump. I’m sure Cheeks helped, but when it comes to Westbrook being a great player, I’d give the vast majority of credit to Westbrook himself.

      • Jun 7, 201312:04 am
        by jacob

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        Do you go the okc practices? Wow the ignorance going on here tonight.

        • Jun 7, 20131:15 am
          by Edgar

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          Dude, Westbrook would be a top-15 player on any team and with any coach. I don’t need to be at any practices to know that.

          • Jun 7, 20131:29 am
            by jacob

            Now he would. All I am really trying to say is give the guy a chance. It takes more than just a coach. We need someone to develop a young point guard. No matter who that is.

          • Jun 7, 201310:52 am
            by Crispus

            Do you remember early Westbrook? He was destined for the same rehab facility as Derrick Rose, always crashing into 3 of the opposing team in the lane. Now he makes good decisions and passes a good amount of the time and saves his body by taking a pull up mid range.

    • Jun 6, 201311:05 pm
      by bruj

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      Goes back to Dumars ability to be just mediocre.  Leave it to Dumars to try and turn brandon knigt into a less athletic smaller Russell Westbrook… and then hire a coach to facilitate that mediocre idea… and it’s only a mediocre idea if it works.

  • Jun 6, 201310:36 pm
    by Piston Truth

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    mediocre path as usual this like hiring john keuter again excuse me kuester

  • Jun 6, 201310:36 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    *yawn* 

    But he might surprise us 

  • Jun 6, 201310:59 pm
    by bruj

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    Dumars is the worst kind of manager (and it pains me to say that)… he is locking us into a world of medocrity… which in the NBA, is the worst place to be.  This will be his last year.

    • Jun 7, 201312:05 am
      by jacob

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      You might be right, but that doesn’t mean that Cheeks is going to be a bad hire.

  • Jun 6, 201311:06 pm
    by Faraz1013

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    Get ready to win 32 games everyone. WOOOO

  • Jun 6, 201311:21 pm
    by domnick

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    it took so long to find a new headcoach.. and this is what we got?? WTF!!! LOL this is f*cking JOKE!

  • Jun 6, 201311:23 pm
    by Vic

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    genius move to hire a coach based on a combo guard, when you have 2 big men that could be the cornerstone of a dynasty…. plus 3 draft picks that could easily put a real point guard and 2 wing shooters/defenders around the the 2 franchise bigs. genius consensus…

    not really 

    • Jun 7, 201312:12 am
      by acr

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      He did coach Rasheed and Zack Randolph together, as well as Samuel Dalembert and Thaddeus Young in. Philly.  I think he could be good for Dre and Monroe too.

      • Jun 7, 20135:53 am
        by Vic

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        Ok well if he gets credit for developing Westbrrok, ZBo, and Sheed… Then I can support the move. The discipline thing is not an issue for me because I know we get “character guys” now.

        I need to see some proof that he gets significant credit for Russell,ZBo and Sheed 

  • Jun 6, 201311:31 pm
    by Talan

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    I don’t understand why we can’t be like the Sacramento Kings new ownership. Their team sucks too, but they get a new owner and instantly hire a highly regarded assistant coach and have brought in big names like Larry Bird and David Morway in for GM interviews. Suddenly the Kings are an attractive location, more so that the Pistons? I don’t see it.
    We can’t even hire Larry Drew or Nate McMillan? Oh well. As someone said earlier, coaches rarely make a difference. It’s about the players. Supposedly Cheeks is some sort of guard guru. Think that makes us more likely to draft a pg?

  • Jun 6, 201311:53 pm
    by mike

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    I’m just glad its not McMillan

  • Jun 6, 201311:54 pm
    by jacob

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    Before you start your bashing go back and look at the rosters he had to work with.

  • Jun 6, 201311:58 pm
    by Cali piston fan

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    C’mon guys lets be real.  How many coaches or players have Michigan as the number one desination to live and raise a family.
    All we hear about Detroit is negative press. High crime rates, abandoned houses, no available jobs, crooked politicians on crack, etc. It doesn’t seem logical to expect  top tier coaches or free agents when so many other attractive jobs are available.
    Joe D is my favorite Piston. Don’t kill the messenger. 

    • Jun 7, 201312:07 am
      by jacob

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      Most of these people posting are ignorant. Plain and simple. Uneducated fools who do no research and have probably never even played high school basketball.

      • Jun 7, 201312:19 am
        by Reaction

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        AI Chris Webber Andre Iguodala Kyle Korver Andre Miller… Were on his Philly teams. How is that a bad roster?

        • Jun 7, 201312:20 am
          by Reaction

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          Only his final year did he have a truly horrendous roster and even then he had Iggy, Louis Williams, Thad Young, Andre Miller 

          • Jun 7, 201312:30 am
            by jacob

            So name a player on that roster that has won even a conference championship with anyone they have played for?

          • Jun 7, 201312:39 am
            by Reaction

            I can name several of those players who have played on teams with winning records. Also several of those players considered all stars or all nba worthy players. The coach just didn’t seem to know how to mesh them together. You can’t deny the talent. A good coach would know how to use that talent correctly. You are absolutely wrong about how there was no one good on those teams. Might as well admit that much.

          • Jun 7, 20131:59 am
            by jacob

            Didn’t  say he didn’t have good players. A lot of teams have good players. Look at the Lakers this year. Sometimes you need the right players. I’m saying everyone is being very negative and only looking and one side of this.  Sometimes in life you just have to accept things and move on. Look at the positives. I never said it was a great hire. Right now on this story there are way too many negative ignorant comments. Not too many people are looking at the good things he has done over his career.

        • Jun 7, 201312:32 am
          by jacob

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          AI is it and he had a defensive center but the got smashed in the Finals.

          • Jun 7, 201312:40 am
            by Reaction

            Chris Webber. Andre Miller was still pretty good. Iggy was up and coming. Kyle Korver was still a 3 point threat

          • Jun 7, 20131:05 am
            by jacob

            Webber was washed up by then. Never was a champion. As a Michigan fan he ruined our program for a long time. Never really did like Iverson even though he did praise Cheeks for helping him develop as a young point guard. So where was the toughness. A really young Iggy? A lot of people can shoot threes. So you’re Korver argument is kind of lame.

      • Jun 7, 20131:00 am
        by mike

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        Are you saying playing high school basketball makes you an expert on bball?

        lol 

        • Jun 7, 20131:11 am
          by jacob

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          Yes mike exactly what I was saying. (person attack removed). Just everyone on here is hating on a guy who has won an NBA title. And coached on teams that have went to the finals. Helped develop really good point guards and is a stand up guy. Lol

      • Jun 7, 20131:57 am
        by rick77

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        Funny most want a superstar name coach w/o any superstar on the team. If Cheeks wasn’t instrumental in helping with the development of Westbrook, then I guess Scott Brooks is a helluva coach. Not! Pay Frankie D no mind (j/k) as he knows it all, and for the most part is a perpetual complainer of Dumars. If it was up to him I would venture to guess we should grab someone he is familiar with say Kevin Pritchard to be our GM. Yeah that guy has guided his franchise to multiple championships. All this complaining and the fact remains this is a star driven league. Lebron, Dwade, Kobe, Duncan, and Parker have been in the 15 Finals. Why be mad at Dumars when we won 1 in those 15 plus went to another, and to top it off went to like 6 straight ECF. Yeah Dumars is an idiot. Fair weather ass Detroit Pistons fans. SMDH!!

  • Jun 7, 201312:07 am
    by Mel

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    Well , we have a coach now . Yes I would have liked to have had Mcmillian as or coach too. As I was looking at some of the post it made me think of our beloved coach Chuck Daly. He had a terrible record in Cleveland before he came to Detroit. Larry Brown was a decent coach but he was known to be hard to work with other players, it wasn’t until he came to Detroit that he won a championship. I believe it’s a combination of coach and players which makes a good team. After Brown left look what happened even Chuck. Hopefully Mo can follow the trend, he was known as a defensive point guard so we know he is defensive oriented. His teams always played hard for him. So next is on Joe D getting great draft players to compliment what we have and fit what Mo Cheeks is looking to do with them. One good thing is we have “Andre The Giant” he will be the difference maker next year. More confident than he was as a rookie. Also Cheeks needs a good staff to help him out hopefully he gets a good big man coach as a assistant. Let’s move on.

  • Jun 7, 201312:17 am
    by Desolation Row

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    We hired Phil and spent countless weeks on the coaching search for this?  I’d have rather just kept Frank for continuity sake. Karl, Sloan, McMillan, Hollins, and Shaw are all available. This is immensely disappointing. Dumars should be on thin ice. Playoffs or fired.

    • Jun 7, 201312:53 am
      by D_S_V

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      “We hired Phil and spent countless weeks on the coaching search for this?  I’d have rather just kept Frank for continuity sake.”

      I agree. Seems to be a lateral move as far as ‘coaching effectiveness’. I’m very much in the “great players usually matter more than great coaches” camp, but I do think there are a few coaches who make significant improvements for a team, so why not roll the dice on someone who might become one of those few rather than someone who’s proven they are not?

  • Jun 7, 201312:34 am
    by Mel

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    Phil was only brought in to promote his book and to see what behind the scenes of The Palace looks like so he can talk about it in his next book. I blame Gores for meddling with the coaching process. We could of had Mcmillian earlier during the process. Cheeks came along later in the process. I do agree since we waited so long why pull the trigger now when two new coaches are available. Would love to have gotten Hollins, Karl would at least get you to the playoffs. 

  • Jun 7, 201312:45 am
    by Natopher

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    I can understand why people would want a bigger name, but I don’t get why people are THIS upset. Let the man coach before we declare him another failed hire. Fans always think they know best, but we aren’t privy to a fraction of the stuff the front office is. There’s a reason Cheeks is our lead candidate, and I trust that Dumars knows better than most of the people on this site. I understand that people are reluctant after Curry/Kuester/Frank, but Frank (supposedly) wasn’t Dumars pick. Obviously Kuester and Curry were his failures, but Frank shouldn’t be considered one of his. I’m willing to believe in Cheeks until he proves himself unworthy, until then everyone needs to chill out.

    Also, considering his knowledge/skill from the PG position, Cheeks should at LEAST be a benefit for Brandon Knight. Look at how Larry Brown helped Chauncey develop with us. I don’t know if Knight will EVER be as good as Chauncey, but I don’t see why Cheeks wouldn’t be able to help him improve.

  • Jun 7, 201312:49 am
    by mshansky

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    a  proven loser as a coach that was ignored in Portland is going to attract decent free  agents?
    Those who “see the positives” in this bottom of the barrel coach should be glad you were not at Jonestown. you will disappear as the next seasons dismal team reveals an even worse record than last season. and please don’t “fill in ” the roster with your dreams. we will not attract decent players here until there is a completely new management and the stench of the old is gone…..
     

    • Jun 7, 20131:02 am
      by mike

      Reply

      Go back into your cave now…

      • Jun 7, 20134:23 am
        by oats

        Reply

        You know what happens when someone returns to the cave, right?

        • Jun 7, 20132:16 pm
          by G

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          Wow. A Platonic reference. The level of this conversation just elevated about 100 degrees.

  • Jun 7, 20131:07 am
    by Otis

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    This sounds terrible. Not that anybody should have had any hope for this team’s future anyways, but this is highly uninspiring. Cheeks doesn’t come off as very “alpha” does he? This is just the first of many bland, impactless moves to come in the summer ahead. Joe needs to be fired very, very badly.

  • Jun 7, 20131:44 am
    by jerrific

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    this is a genius move by Joe D. How else could the Pistons have a chance to save their lottery pick in next years loaded draft?

  • Jun 7, 20131:59 am
    by Ryan

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    I’m not happy about this hiring and would’ve definitely preferred Nate McMillan. But trying to look for a positive about this I do like Maurice Cheeks as a person and he’ll be easy to cheer for.

  • Jun 7, 20132:15 am
    by Mel

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    I guess Joe D couldn’t get this out of his mind. Look at the 2:36 mark.
    http://youtu.be/9jXDIFrTRxY
     

  • Jun 7, 20132:16 am
    by Brandon Knight

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    Please stop whining? Dumars and his staff did their research and interviews and they concluded that he is the best fit for our team. Period. You don’t know more than them to complain.

  • Jun 7, 20132:37 am
    by Cali piston fan

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    Is this a Pistons fan forum.? Oh my bad, couldn’t tell by all the negative posts.

    • Jun 7, 20134:12 am
      by jerrific

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      I think we might have different definitions of the word fan. It sure doesn’t mean blindly accepting every decision the team makes. It’s certainly possible to be upset about this hire, and still be excited about the team because of exciting young guys like Monroe and Drummond. 

  • Jun 7, 20135:36 am
    by Derek

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    I was leaning towards McMillan but I can see the merits in Cheeks.  While we can bring up his dysfunction blazers team, we would also have to say the coach of that team won’t have mattered.  Those blazers were a talented collection of bad personalities.  Cheeks was still able to hold them together with some success.  He coached 50 win teams with less than ideal circumstances.

    He has the demeanor to lead as well as the knowledge base.  A cool headed Cheeks is a nice fit for a always 100 mph Knight.  I hope this is the first step in a winning direction for the Pistons. 

  • Jun 7, 20139:23 am
    by Matt

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    And now why wait to fire Dumars next summer. Let’s just move on shall we?
     

  • Jun 7, 20139:57 am
    by DoctorDave

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    Detroit/MI as a basketball destination has major problems:
    1) Winter. Duh.
    2) I recognize that the “Detroit” (Auburn Hills) Pistons are nowhere near the blight of the city of Detroit, but let’s face facts: the image of the city of Detroit is all over the Pistons. So, let’s add in the “blight” of Detroit as another issue. This includes criminally corrupt politics & a bankruptcy of a municipality. If you can live anywhere in the US, do you pick Detroit?
    3) Some of these coaching prospects are closet conservatives (or perhaps even open ones). Why would a “conservative” want to live in SE Michigan?
    There is nothing that anyone can do about those three problems. They will forever be attached to playing in Detroit. BUT – do the Wings have problems attracting talent? The Tigers? The BEST of the BEST in those sports want to play here (and “here” means “Detroit”; not “Auburn Hills”)! So, these are not the only issues. Here are the REAL issues plaguing the Pistons:
    4) Recent Piston History – this team has done nothing but lose since 2007. And some of it has been downright ugly.
    5) Roster – there are two potential (key word: potential, as in, it hasn’t happened yet) All-Stars on this team (Monroe & Drummond). After that: not much. There is no starting quality point guard, shooting guard, nor small forward. Conversely – there are good second team players for those spots (Knight, Stuckey & Singler would all be great second team options). In short – too many combo guards and wings not good enough to start on a contender.
    6) GM Issues. This is BIG. Here’s the facts: every coach during the Dumars tenure has left under “less than ideal” circumstances. You could say it this way: Joe Dumars is a “coach killer” just based on history. Whether or not it’s Dumars fault is open to debate; but the fact that every coach was removed by the GM does not bode well for bringing in proven/good coaches. I hate this fact because I like Dumars as a player and a GM. FACT: Dumars at one point was one of the best GMs in the game. He is now, at best, in the bottom half of GMs, and probably in the bottom quarter.
    So – one of these “currykuesterfrank” head coaching types is going to have to have a productive career (defined as successfully completing an entire contract) to start to turn things around. A successful run by a Pistons coach will fix the second half of these problems.
    Maurice Cheeks is not my idea of an ideal NBA coaching candidate. But it may just be that he is the best option an NBA team from SE Michigan has.

  • Jun 7, 201310:33 am
    by tim*

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    jeez.  They should’ve just kept Frank if this the best they could come up with.  Lets trade mediocricy for more mediocracy.

  • Jun 7, 201310:35 am
    by Clint in Flint

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    Cheeks was not on any list of coaches that I wished for, but I will support him until he gives me reason not to. A little positive thinking around here could go a long way. Suck it up gentlemen, it is what it is.

  • Jun 7, 201311:06 am
    by Ozzie-Moto

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    I really feel sorry for the Pistons.  Shack’s comments were spot on:  STOP HIRING RETREADS. This is such a mediocre confort zone move.  This has been my constant complaint with JD. Sure character is important SO IS COMPETENCE and being about to relate to todays players.  NOT JUST who the front office feel comfortable having a beer with. 

  • Jun 7, 20131:07 pm
    by ryan

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    Okay, okay. I was initially very unhappy to hear that we were hiring Maurice Cheeks but now people have gone too far. 1) He’s a good dude 2) he was a good player 3) Oklahoma does have a good culture and clearly develops their young players and 4) give the man a chance.

    Also Nate McMillan may have turned us down.

  • Jun 7, 201311:31 pm
    by T Casey

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    Please tell me this is a joke. George Karl might be available, Brian Shaw def will and has received high marks from not only the Pacers’ head coach, Vogel, but seems to be well respected everywhere he’s been. Yet we’re likely to settle on a retread who hasn’t shown much in terms of potential coaching greatness yet. If we hire him, someone def deserves to be fired.

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