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One Pistons interviewee is off the market

When Mike Budenholzer interviewed with the Pistons, it seemed prying him from the San Antonio, where many considered him Gregg Popovich’s future successor, would be the biggest challenge. Apparently, Budenholzer was ready to leave the Spurs – just not for Detroit.

Chris Vivlamore of The Atlanta Journal Constitution:

The Hawks have hired Mike Budenholzer as head coach.

It seems like Nate McMillan and Maurice Cheeks are the Pistons’ top two choices, anyway. How much is that because the Pistons knew they couldn’t get Budenholzer, and how much is that because they just prefer McMillan Cheeks? We might never know. But now we know Budenholzer won’t be the Pistons’ next coach.

44 Comments

  • May 28, 20136:17 pm
    by The Rake

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    My hunch, primarily based on JD and the two “finalists” you mentioned, is that we never really wanted this guy. I still am hoping for Shaw, personally. Proven or not. Maybe even Mike Malone. 

  • May 28, 20136:24 pm
    by Reaction

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    I want Shaw. If we can’t get Budenholzer, Shaw is the next best option.

  • May 28, 20136:34 pm
    by jinzzy

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    Joe better hire Shaw  now that Budenholzer is gone

  • May 28, 20136:44 pm
    by Eric

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    Shaw isn’t a proven commodity. Is everyone willing to give him the same dice roll we put on Curry and Kuester? I wouldn’t mind someone like Byron Scott or Stan Van Gundy.
     

    • May 28, 20137:02 pm
      by Faraz1013

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      You’re right about Shaw being unproven, but Curry was a different story. He only had one year of assistant coaching experience. 

  • May 28, 20136:50 pm
    by frankie d

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    Kind if surprising though danny ferry, the GM, has strong SA connections so that probably gave him an advantage.

  • May 28, 20136:56 pm
    by Clint in Flint

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    It may be that Shaw doesn’t want Detroit, not Detroit doesn’t want Shaw.

    • May 28, 201311:34 pm
      by Jay

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      No body is gonna know anything about where Shaw does or doesn’t want to go since Walsh won’t let him interview until after the Pacers are done for the season.

  • May 28, 20137:01 pm
    by Mel

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    Stan is not coaching, No to Byron Scott. Danny Ferry and Budenholzer are boys, Danny has been setting this up since last year. We had no chance with him. I say go with Nate before the Clippers get him. Shaw is 50/50 in my opinion. Like Eric said he isn’t proven, yet he maybe a great coach. I’m just tired of taking chances with these guys. At least Nate Mcmillian coached two different teams and had winning seasons with both teams Sonics, Trailblazers. The fans loved him, and he coached with the olympic team a few years. He was able to step away from the game for awhile that always helps.

  • May 28, 20137:42 pm
    by Carl

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     Shaw most likely prefers the Clippers and Nets over the Pistons. 

  • May 28, 20137:48 pm
    by Combo Guards VS Logic

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    At this point, we should just make a decision before there’s no one left.

    • May 28, 20138:52 pm
      by J in FLA

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      THIS!  Hurry up Joe!

  • May 28, 20138:25 pm
    by picknroll

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    I’m starting to get the feeling that we are going to be left with very little to choose from for our next coach!  Just wish JD would be proactive and go out and get a top-notch coach!!

  • May 28, 20138:40 pm
    by David

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    Not a criticism of Dan, because I’ve seen it everywhere, but a weird part of the reporting of the coaching search is how Maurice Cheeks and Nate McMillan have become a single coach that Dumars prefers, McMillan Cheeks. As in the narrative where Phil Jackson wants Shaw and Dumars wants McMillan Cheeks.

    I wonder why there hasn’t been any differentiation between Cheeks and McMillan or no news that Dumars or the Pistons are leaning one way or the other. 

  • May 28, 20138:51 pm
    by elshark81

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    Get McMillan before you takes another job and we are forced to settle for an unproven assistant. I wouldn’t mind Cheeks, but prefer Nate. I don’t think we can risk another two year flameout. At least these two guys seemed to last 3+ years and make the playoffs. Baby steps, right…..

  • May 28, 20139:01 pm
    by bball4224

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    Sooooo why in the world would he agree before his playoff run is over? Seems kinda lame imo.

    • May 28, 20139:14 pm
      by Vince

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      General consensus I’ve been reading is that he thinks its a good time to leave, San Antonio is on its last legs and this is probably the last time they have a realistic shot at the title for a few years now that the West is becoming younger and stronger than ever. Good move by him, I’m just disappointed that of all the teams he got signed by, it was the Atlanta Hawks…

    • May 28, 201311:39 pm
      by Jeremy

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      Actually, it makes perfect sense to state his decision now vs. after the finals or even during it. He gets it out there and that’s the end of being in the rumor mill. He can now focus on helping the Spurs win another ring without his mind being torn between game planning and planning for his future. 

  • May 28, 20139:14 pm
    by Edgar

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    Ugh. I really wanted this guy. This guy would’ve brought SA culture over and they’ve been so successful at player evaluation, developing young talent and so willing to play young guys (despite mistakes/inconsistencies). That’s exactly what we’ve been horrible at for forever. Dumars has consistently overvalued/undervalued players and our coaches have been too reluctant to play young talent. Frank would’ve probably given Stuckey/Prince minutes over Kawhi Leonard. 

  • May 29, 20132:42 am
    by gmehl

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    I know the Nets and Clippers are more attractive destinations atm but I still think Shaw will be our next head coach. I actually want McMillan to be our new coach but I think the ONLY reason why Phil Jackson was brought in was to start the communication between Dumars and Gores. Will there be a power struggle between who chooses the next coach? Yes there will and as long as we get a good one it will all be worth it. Dumars authority/power will likely be overturned once again and part of that is his fault with the amount of coaches he has been through so whomever the next coach is he will have to suck it up if it is Shaw or take full responsibility if its his personal favourite and it doesn’t work out which will likely end up costing him his job. All I will say is the next coach better show rapid improvement in the W/L column or else its bye bye Joe.

  • May 29, 20132:43 am
    by jacob

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    I know we need a good coach, but the main problem with this team is depth and lack of talent. We need our core players to develop and a PG SG and SF. The question is, can Joe find all three of those positions and a coach to help develop and improve our young talent.

    • May 29, 20137:46 am
      by acr

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      this^^  Ultimately, it’s about the players.  We have a few, we need some more.

  • May 29, 20135:41 am
    by willy

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    we’ll probably end up with Jackson as gm shaw as coach and pippen as an assistant, foget them and bring the bad boys back

  • May 29, 20136:32 am
    by Vince

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    Joe should make up his mind and hire someone. McMillan is my favorite at this point considering Budenholzer is off the table and neither Shaw or Sampson were interviewed (as far as we know). Big Mac isn’t going to be available forever, the Lakers, Clippers and Bucks are all trying to get him as well so Dumars better get his ass in gear before we’re stuck with an unproven head coach.

    • May 29, 20136:55 am
      by gmehl

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      Hey if we miss out on McMillan or Shaw then maybe we should hire Nick Nolte

      • May 29, 20139:41 am
        by Vince

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        I would fly to Detroit and buy a season pass if we hired Nick Nolte as a head coach hahahahaha 

  • May 29, 20138:09 am
    by PBaller

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    If Cheeks and McMillan are the finalists, why are we waiting.   They are not coaching anywhere.  I think the Pistons must of been interested in Bud, Shaw, or the asst at Miami,   Otherwise, we are we waiting.

    Are the Pistons management so inept that they are in a freeze mode while the best candidates start filling other jobs?   Is there a power struggle preventing them to move forward?    

    I just don’t see how Cheeks or McMillan are any better than what we have had lately.     

    • May 29, 201311:44 am
      by Todd

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      To me, you have hit the nail on the head. It appears right now the Pistons are stuck in a holding pattern with no clarity moving forward. On one hand they could bring in a coach who has taken his team to the playoffs (Larry Drew, Maurice Cheeks, or Nate McMillan), or they could chose to go with an up-and-coming assistant (Brian Shaw, Mike Malone, JB Bickerstaff, David Fizdale, etc.). The reality is, we are allowing other teams to dictate our next coach the longer we wait. Get a gameplan, make an offer and get a coach.

      We need to be worrying less about the organization and more about getting players in that can fill needs. All of this trouble simply hides the fact that we are a subpar team right now who is on its longest lottery streak since the pre-Bad Boy era. 

  • May 29, 20139:19 am
    by Robb

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    I would rather be patient and wait for the right guy than rush into another lame duck coach…

    I do believe there is a reason why we haven’t hired a coach yet and that is because it is Shaw that is at the top of the list and we need to wait till he is available and from what I’ve read, that is after there season is over…

    Maybe during this next 2 weeks waiting for the Miami/Indiana winner they get a chance to interview him, lets hope… 

    • May 29, 20139:50 am
      by Vince

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      That is a plausible yet foolish option if that is the case. Waiting to interview Shaw would suggest Dumars has not made up his mind, and worse – it would mean all of our coaching options (at least the good ones) would most likely no longer be available once Shaw becomes free for an interview, and even then there is no certainty he comes to Detroit.

      Dumars must have a plan, I’m all for taking our time to find the right coach but when there are so many vacancies and so little solid coaches around it becomes a tad worrying when the good options become tied up. I don’t believe Shaw is on the Pistons’ radar, all indications point towards Cheeks or McMillan being the next head coach unless there is something we don’t know – which in all likelihood is possible as well. 

      Heres to hoping our coaching vacancy fills up soon.

  • May 29, 20139:32 am
    by G

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    Well, there goes my favorite guy for this job. Shit. I got the feeling Dumars never really took a serious look a Budenholzer. He interviewed Cheeks twice (WHY?), and let slip that he liked McMillaCheeks over everyone else. Out of this class of candidates, I think Budenholzer stands the best chance to be the Rick Carlisle of the bunch. 

    Not sure why Dumars won’t interview Shaw. He might be ok. I’d probably put him and McMillan as the top 2 in some order. Dumars interviewed JB Bickerstaff but won’t see Shaw? I fail to understand. 

    • May 29, 201310:56 am
      by GEORGIO

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      He can’t interview Shaw until the Pacers season is over, per GM Donnie Walsh 

      • May 29, 201311:05 am
        by G

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        This I know, but the word was that Dumars was done interviewing candidates. At least that’s what he said last week. Maybe he isn’t quite done yet (not sure when he talked to Griffin), but according to the last thing I heard, Dumars isn’t talking to any new candidates, which means he won’t talk to Shaw.

        For the record I hope that isn’t the case & he’s willing to talk to a couple more guys. 

  • May 29, 201310:31 am
    by jacob

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    http://www.csnnw.com/article/source-pistons-interview-bulls-assistant-adrian-griffin-0 Pistons interviewed him over the weekend, this article states.

    • May 29, 201310:50 am
      by sebastian

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      Wait a dam(n) minute. Adrian Griffin, BJ Bikerstaff, and Darrell Walker get interviews, but Isiah can’t even get an invitation to Joe’s office.
      Hire Isiah and let’s get ready for the draft, already!

      • May 29, 201311:02 am
        by G

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        Dude, Isiah is an effing joke as a coach. Get a clue.

    • May 29, 201311:02 am
      by G

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      Interesting… This goes back to the point that there are a lot of assistant coaches out there most of us know little about. Both Skiles & Thibodeau have said he’d make a great coach.

    • May 29, 201312:25 pm
      by Keith

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      This seems odd. Why jump on the highly unknown quantity like Griffin, when Greg Adams is there too? Adams was the one that built and installed a working defense in OKC when they were mostly a bunch of young scorers. Griffin has been an assistant under two separate defensive coaches, but has done nothing on his own.

  • May 29, 201310:31 pm
    by gmehl

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    Off topic on our coaching search but I was wondering what you guys think about us maybe working out a sign and trade with Dallas for OJ Mayo who has a player option. Maybe we could trade the 8th pick/Singler to Dallas for the 13th pick/Brandan Wright. Then with the 13th pick we can go after Dennis Schroeder or if he drops that far C.J. McCollum.

    • May 29, 201310:45 pm
      by gmehl

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      I forgot to mention that the exchange of draft picks was the sweetener to the sign and trade. Obviously the perks for us was getting OJ Mayo/13th pick and the perks for them was the 8th pick. If Dallas just wants to save money then you could just drop Singler from the deal and maybe add our 2nd rounder pick 37.

      • May 29, 201311:42 pm
        by jacob

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        No, because he will opt out anyways, and teams usually only do sign and trades for max contracts. That way the player can make the most he can make. So we would be trading 5 spots back for brandan wright.

      • May 29, 201311:44 pm
        by jacob

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        I think we would be better off trading them our 2nd rounder and take on marions contract for their 13th.

  • May 30, 20133:08 pm
    by Telepow

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    Am pretty sure that Shaw will NOT gonna be our next coach. Knowing how Dumars do things, its gonna be Mo Cheeks, Larry Drew or even Adrian Griffin. Dumars is a Cheap MF.

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