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Joe Dumars announces firing of Lawrence Frank, and the source might matter

Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated:

GM Joe Dumars: "We thank Lawrence for his hard work and dedication, but we feel it is in the best interest of franchise to make a change."

These official releases rarely contain anything beyond boilerplate, but I think the fact this one comes from Joe Dumars matters. Dumars’ fate still hasn’t been publically announced by Tom Gores, but if Dumars is announcing Frank’s firing, I think that’s a strong sign Dumars will be retained. Otherwise, I’d guess the information would have been attributed to the organization rather than Dumars.

16 Comments

  • Apr 18, 20132:55 pm
    by Big Rick

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    Good point! Here’s hoping Dumars is given another season or two to get things turned around. 

  • Apr 18, 20133:02 pm
    by Big Rick

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    I also want to add that this decision to fire Frank may have been directed from ownership more so than management. It was said upon hiring Frank that Gores and his staff made the call whole Dumars favored MIke Woodson. I mention that because that might give jus a little insight on a few things; what type of owner Gores is, how much power does Joe D. really have, will he bring Joe D back and just use him as a resource for his basketball knowledge, and NBA connections? Will we hire a new coach before the draft or wait closer to season like we did with Frank? Lot of questions still out there. 

    • Apr 18, 20133:38 pm
      by MIKEYDE248

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      Hopefully they find a new coach somewhat quickly.  Depending on who the get, that my help bring in someone if free agency.

  • Apr 18, 20133:39 pm
    by MIKEYDE248

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    It would suck for Joe if his last act he got to do as GM was to fire Frank.

  • Apr 18, 20134:53 pm
    by Quin

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    I feel like I want a cookie for my history of praising Woodson and lamenting the Pistons’ decision to go with Frank. Whatever. Somebody is going to run around talking about “hind sight” and all this crap, as if Woodson’s record of improving teams shouldn’t count.
    Looking at what happened there is important now. Out there in the coaching world is someone who is objectively better. Woodson was. At the time, his last head coaching job was on the up and up. He improved Atlanta every year he was there. Kind of like Carlisle and the Pistons. Frank, on the other hand, ended his tenure at the Nets with one of the most horrible losing streaks ever. But he got the job. :/
    Now here we are again. Is someone going to get the job because the owner finds him more personally likeable, or because he can get the job done?
     

    • Apr 18, 20134:56 pm
      by MIKEYDE248

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      Unless they get lucky with a coach, like they did with Carlisle, I don’t really see a coach that is a no brainer out there to sign.

    • Apr 18, 20137:56 pm
      by CityofKlompton

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      Not arguing against Woodson being the better coach, because I think he is superior, but look at the cast he’s had to work with in NYC compared to Motown.  I’m not sure Woodson could have gotten us too much further.

  • Apr 18, 20135:01 pm
    by Blocks by Dre (Burke for the win!!)

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    We traded a first round pick to get rid of a player Dumars invested in…why are we keeping this guy around again? What has he done lately besides drafting obvious choices in Drummond and Monroe?

    • Apr 18, 20136:21 pm
      by gmehl

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      Well he didn’t pass on Drummond or Monroe so there’s that.

    • Apr 18, 20137:54 pm
      by CityofKlompton

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      He opened up $30 mil of cap space for us to spend this off-season.

      • Apr 18, 201311:55 pm
        by Blocks by Dre (Burke for the win!!)

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        He opened up 30 mil by trading players we should have never signed (resigned) in the first place. Dumars hasn’t done anything that suggest we should keep him and I think he should leave as well…enough is enough thanks for the memories but there’s the door gtfo

  • Apr 18, 20135:33 pm
    by Jay

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    Everyone seems to forget that in that offseason gordon and villanueva were considered the top two free agents available and that joe d wasnt the only gm waiting in line to sign those two.

    • Apr 18, 20136:38 pm
      by oats

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      Well, he did overpay. There is no doubt about that. He overpaid to get them on the first day of free agency. That also doesn’t change the fact that Dumars made the wrong call on that one, and it was reasonably predictable. Tons of people were saying those guys weren’t worth that kind of money. I remember those contracts being mocked before the season even started. Dumars severely over valued those two, and there is no way he doesn’t get blamed for that. Especially since he did it right after giving Rip Hamilton that awful extension that we are still paying him for. Just a really bad job by Dumars.

    • Apr 19, 20131:32 am
      by Quin

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      I think winning a championship is costly. After you win, you owe the starters generous contracts (and the fans demand them). Unfortunately, the starters couldn’t perform at that level forever (and certainly without certain key pieces). I agree that Dumars messed up with Charlie V. That’s one he could have held out on. Ben Gordon seemed like a potential star at times. Even with the bad defense, his shot is so pretty that it fools people.
      I actually think the Pistons screwed up by trading away Chauncey at a time where he was the nucleus, and the only thing left to attract other top players with. Since he left, nobody wants to play with the Pistons.

  • Apr 18, 20136:34 pm
    by Andy Nong

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    Joe will still have to leave sooner or later, I guess….!

  • Apr 19, 201312:53 am
    by domnick

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    now who will be our next coach?

    thats one question…… big problem? our roster is not really good..

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