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Rodney Stuckey has offseason surgery scheduled

Rodney Stuckey took a tough shot to the teeth in December, and the results are still apparent. Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

He needs to have surgery to fix that. Scheduled after the season.

I have no idea whether Stuckey’s missing tooth affects his play – I doubt it – but it would be nice if there were such an easily identifiable and correctable excuse for his sorry season.

28 Comments

  • Mar 14, 20131:27 pm
    by GEORGIO

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    Stuckey said it best himself after the game, he need’s the ball in his hands to create for himself and his teamates. He’s not a SG or a SF, he’s a point guard that needs the ball to be effective. Last year Stuckey and Knight had some success playing together with Stuckey actually handling the ball as much if not more than Knight. This year it seems Frank or mgmt decided Knight should be a traditional 1 and Stuckey a traditional 2 and it messed both of them up. Now that they see Knight can be effective off the ball maybe they’ll revisit a Stuckey and Knight backcourt if they fail to resign Jose. It would certainly be a better defensive backcourt and both players like to really push the ball and both are unselfish. Would it be more turnover prone, yes but maybe playing with Jose they both have learned a little something about taking care of the ball. Don’t break the bank for Jose when we may have our backcourt of the future already here. 

    • Mar 14, 20132:46 pm
      by G

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      Yeah, how did that work out last year? Started 4-20, finished in the lotto. Stuckey is a backup PG, not a starting caliber player. You can’t win a playoff series with Stuckey as your starting PG unless you’re the Heat or something.

      • Mar 14, 20134:28 pm
        by GEORGIO

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        That was the lockout year dude, with a new coach and two week training camp, a bad start was practically inevitable,

        • Mar 14, 20134:32 pm
          by G

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          Weren’t the other teams were also locked out? I think maybe yeah…

          • Mar 14, 20136:20 pm
            by Georgio

            New coach, new system, I think maybe yeah 

          • Mar 15, 20138:25 am
            by G

            Weak excuses. Players play.

  • Mar 14, 20131:37 pm
    by Derek

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    I can’t come up with a viable scenario that would suggest that Stuckey being on the team going into another season is a good idea.  I’m done with him.  I think he needs different scenery.  He played bad prior to the injury.  If the issue was poor performance alone that would be a concern but that’s fixable.  The major issue is attitude and it hasn’t really changed for any sustained period of time.

    Stuckey represents our failed attempt to transition out of the Goin to Work team.  Let’s cut the cord completely and go with the Monroe, Knight, and Drummond regime.  Hopefully this offseason nets us a pick ready to contribute now as well as free agent and trade acquisitions.

    I think we’ve got to blow it up.  There’s very little salvageable value with this team presently constituted.

    • Mar 14, 20131:50 pm
      by GEORGIO

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      I agree that Stuckey can be “moody”, but his attitude was fine last year and at the beginning of this year even with the slump. He actually stated he likes Frank. He was playing quite well prior to the ankle injury, him and Drummond were game changers when they came in. After the injury he became the backup 2 guard then the backup SF and that’s when his attitude soured. I can’t think of many backup PGs that Stuckey wouldn’t dominate, so stop fing with his position, keep him as the backup PG and you will have a happy and productive player. 

      • Mar 14, 20132:43 pm
        by Derek

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        Wait a sec.  Stuckey started the season in a rut.  He got injured and requested to come off the bench.  He was ineffective off the bench.  Bynum started getting significant rotation minutes and Stuckey went deeper into his abyss of moodiness.  He just stopped trying.  I can’t think of a point in the season where I can say he was playing “quite well”.  I was a fan of the guy.  I believed he turned the corner and started getting it after his flashes of brilliance last year and his dedication in the offseason.

        Now I believe he just needs to be off the team.  He is not our PG of the future and he hasn’t proven in 6 years he can be a good back up pg.  Experiment over.  Let’s move on.

        • Mar 14, 20132:56 pm
          by Huddy

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          Seriously it is not as if this year is the only reason no one has faith in Stuckey he has been unreliable for YEARS.  How many games did he play SF?  That is not the demise of his career he is not that good end of story.

        • Mar 14, 20134:39 pm
          by GEORGIO

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          You got it backward, he requested to come off the bench, which he did and he WAS playing well, look it up if you must, THEN he got injured and missed 3 games. Bynum played well in his absence and Stuckey was moved to SG when he returned.  That’s when the “moodiness” crept in. Then he was moved to backup SF when Prince was traded. If they keep Stuckey or not, I don’t care but the guy is being played out of position and that’s on the coach. Expecting him to make a living shooting jumpers is a recipe for diaster, put the ball in his hands and he will produce. Frank is waisting his talent as a backup 2 or 3 and it’s his job to get the most out of his players, not the least.    

          • Mar 15, 201312:33 pm
            by Derek

            Correction:  Stuckey was initially sick.  He missed the game (against Philly).  Singler replaced him and did well.  Stuckey returned and suggested Singler stay in the starting lineup.  Stuckey came off the bench and was still in a rut. 

            Stuckey got injured.  Bynum slid into the back up pg role and meshed well with Drummond.  Stuckey returned as the back up SG, playing poorly.  At some point he began giving up and so not giving effort.

            We just don’t need crap like this going forward.  There’s no reason to continue with the guy.  He gave effort in the last game, that was the first time in a while.

  • Mar 14, 20131:46 pm
    by Ryank

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    Excuse for his sorry season?  I think you already know why he’s not having a good year.  He’s not a wing player, but they’re asking him to be a wing.  If you put the ball back in Stuckey’s hands, you’d see much better production from him.  But when you have Calderon on the team, it’s hard to justify Stuckey playing point guard other than when Calderon i on the bench.  The same is true with Knight.

    • Mar 14, 20133:11 pm
      by G

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      And why can’t you justify playing Stuckey at PG when either of those 2 are in the game? Because he’s not a good PG either. He looked good earlier in his career carving up the other team’s bench, but his whole game is taking it to the rack, pulling up for a short jumper, or drawing a foul.

  • Mar 14, 20132:30 pm
    by MIKEYDE248

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    I don’t think Stuckey will ever be a good PG.  He is not a very good passer and has always been a shoot first player.  When he use to drive to the basket and draw a lot of fouls, he showed a lot of promise, but then switched to shooting a lot of outside and 3 pointers.  His outside game has never been very good and probably never will.

    • Mar 14, 20132:41 pm
      by GEORGIO

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      He switched to shooting a lot of outside shots because Frank moved him to the 2 guard spot and the 3. That was Frank’s mistake, he put him in a position to fail. Stuckey is not a good outside shooter so why make him a backup 2 or 3 when he should be the backup 1. A good coach plays to a players strengths not his weaknesses, so put him back as the backup PG and the team and Stuckey will be better for it. 

      • Mar 14, 20133:48 pm
        by sebastian

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        Georgio, I’m with you, man. Stuckey should be allowed to play out his contract as a Piston. I would like to, also see he play in position where he has the advantage and the support of the coaching staff, as the 6th-man, the first guard off of the bench.
        If there was a true coaching staff in place, he (Stuckey) and B. Knight would look a hellava lot better.

      • Mar 14, 20134:38 pm
        by oats

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        So shooting guards have to jack up 3s? Since when? Last I checked there are a lot of wing players that go to the hoop. Why isn’t he working as a cutter or using screens to create space and then head to hoop? Wing players do that all the time. He was moved to shooting guard, but he is the one who decided to take a bunch of bad shots. Even if he felt he had to hang out there, nothing says he has to shoot from there. Once he gets it in his hands it is his choice what to do with the ball. He chose to take terrible shots instead of driving to the hoop, Frank didn’t choose that for him.

      • Mar 15, 20138:57 am
        by MIKEYDE248

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        I agree with you completely Oats.  When Rip was here, he almost never shot 3′s his first couple years.  It wasn’t until later that he worked on them and added them to his arsenal.

  • Mar 14, 20133:45 pm
    by Jeremy

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    I said it a few days ago…dude peaked in 09-10. That is about all that there is to it.

    • Mar 14, 20134:23 pm
      by G

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      Really? He’s not old enough to have lost a step due to age, he hasn’t had any debilitating injuries that would affect his productivity down the road, and his best year was ACTUALLY either last year or the year before… Not sure how that means he’s peaked already…

      • Mar 14, 20134:44 pm
        by Corey

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        What’s so surprising about the idea that he’s already peaked? Lots of players peak just before receiving their first big contract.  Then they get the contract, the effort goes down and their play suffers. 

        I’m so done with Stuckey. I used to be so exciting about him and his ability to attack the basket. The 2008ish Pistons really needed that. I even bought a Stuckey t-shirt his rookie season – the only player I’ve ever bought one for. Talk about dashed hopes…

        Stuckey just doesn’t have a good enough attitude. He’s not mentally strong enough, and if things aren’t going his way he folds.  Put him at PG, or SG, or SF, backup or starter. He might have a good stretch, and then he will get injured, or will find or manufacture a reason to be dissatisfied, and his play will slide again. 

        If any GM in the league still believes in him, then trade him to that team.

        • Mar 14, 20134:57 pm
          by G

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          Except the dude’s play didn’t suffer. If you’re claiming he peaked in the ’09-’10 season, that means you’re ignoring the following facts:
          - Stuckey took more shots in ’09-’10 but was a less efficient scorer
          - ’09-’10 was one of his worst shooting years, last year was his best
          - Going strictly by PER, Stuckey’s best 2 years were last year & the year before

          Stuckey was never more than a slightly above average player, but the fact that he’s fallen off so far between this year and last year leads me to believe that it has to be something else. This is the WORST year of his career by far, and he’s only 26. I don’t care for his playing style much, but I think he’s more likely to average 14 ppg next year than the 10 he’s averaging now.

  • Mar 14, 20135:09 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    Stuckey is good, he just needs a coach that knows how to play him…

    • Mar 14, 20138:48 pm
      by gmehl

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      That comment is BS Jodi. If he was any good then he’d average more than the crap he has been dishing out this season. Stuckey’s problem is he doesn’t have the drive to be as successful as guys like Kobe, Durant and LeBron. Stuckey has the physical size to dominate almost every guard he goes up against but still can’t get it done. I say we cut him loose so he can become someone else’s problem. IMHO his fate will be decided on who we choose in the draft. If we end up with Smart or Burke or resign Calderon then its bye bye to the whiny little bitch.

  • Mar 14, 20135:59 pm
    by Mark

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    “He needs to have surgery to fix that”

    You sure he wasn’t talking about Stuckey’s jumpshot?

    • Mar 14, 20138:40 pm
      by gmehl

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      Damn you beat me to what i was going to say. I don’t know if there is any kind of surgery that could fix his broken jump shot though. Greg Oden has more luck to come back and average 20/10

  • Mar 14, 20136:45 pm
    by Ryan Kelly

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    Stuckey is just not much of a player.   He has a place in the nba but just not thiS team.  The thing is even the thing stuckey does well (attack the rim) he doesn’t do all that well.  I’ve never seen a player attack the basket and miss the rim more.   Not miss the shot.   Miss the rim.   You can’t do that.  At that point it’s like a turnover with the other team coming the other way hard.   i hope to never see him play for Detroit after this season.   

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