↓ Login/Logout ↓
Schedule/Results
↓ Roster ↓
Salaries
↓ Archives ↓
↓ About ↓

Pistons get F grade for season so far

Matt Moore of Eye on Basketball graded the Pistons through three quarters of the season:

Grade: F

The injury to Andre Drummond does not remove how terrible this quarter was for Detroit. There’s no reason this team shouldn’t have made a push for the No. 8 seed. The talent is there. They’ve just played terrible and lost games they should and shouldn’t win. The Pistons just unraveled in the third quarter.

Sounds about right. In the long, the Pistons will be better off having spent one more year in the lottery. But, very clearly, they wanted to make the playoffs, and it’s troubling they’ve fallen so short of that goal.

51 Comments

  • Mar 17, 201312:27 pm
    by Mark

    Reply

    This guy is delusional if he really thinks they should’ve been an 8th seed…
    WITHOUT Drummond.

  • Mar 17, 201312:44 pm
    by Blocks by Dre

    Reply

    Pistons get an A I’m my book…we’re on our way to a top Draft pick keep it up guys! 

  • Mar 17, 201312:56 pm
    by Herman Neutic

    Reply

    In the long [run], the Pistons will be better off having spent one more year in the lottery.”

    Sounds like we need two grading systems, one for the long run, where the Pistons get an A, and one for the short run.

    “But, very clearly, they wanted to make the playoffs,”

    Why very clearly? Wouldn’t they have played Drummond more?
    Is it because they played hard most of the time?
    Also, if as you say, they are better off losing more games in the long run [which I agree with], don’t you think basketball minds such as Joe D and Lawrence Frank [not to mention many who post on this board] could see this as well — probably sooner than most — and that they then would then would have managed and coached accordingly? 

    “and its troubling they’ve fallen so short of that goal.”

    I don’t see how this conclusion follows from your premise. Why is it so troubling that they didn’t reach the alleged goal of making the playoffs [whether Joe D and Coach Frank had it or not, and which they shouldn't have had in either case]?

    The trick, as I see it, was to get the players to come together as a team and play hard — and lose. That, I think, is how we should grade this team, this coach, and this GM for this year. Next year, it’s a whole new ball game. 

    • Mar 17, 20138:39 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      It’s a young team. It is certainly not an unrealistic goal to see significant progress over last season. Especially after having gotten arguably the best player in the draft. Even if he only played 50 games.

  • Mar 17, 20132:31 pm
    by Edgar

    Reply

    I totally disagree with the idea that “the talent is there” for the Pistons. What talent would that be? Greg Monroe has proven to be a nice piece, but I think we have enough evidence that shows he’s no more than the third best player on a contending team, maybe second best if he improves his defense. Drummond obviously has massive potential, but aside from those two, what “talent” is there? This team has no business making a push for the 8th seed. If they had properly evaluated their talent, they would’ve realized this and therefore it wouldn’t be such a big deal that they’ve fallen short.

    • Mar 17, 20138:46 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      So it was unrealistic of them to expect that lottery picks entering their second and third seasons (Monroe and Knight) would improve over last season?

    • Mar 17, 20138:53 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      And it was unrealistic to fail to expect Stuckey to slump to career-worst levels? And to fail to expect Jerebko to contribute a goose egg?

  • Mar 17, 20133:36 pm
    by Ikkie

    Reply

    The playoffs in my opinion are overrated. What the heck do you learn by getting run over by the Heat? If you can’t at least be competitive, you should stay home. We need a new coach because Doogie Howser has lost the respect of this team. Once you lose that, you may as well pack it in. The second reason he should be let go is his horrible use of the roster. Another reason is his blind allegiance to Kyle Singler whom even though he did not produce at a starters level, he was never sat down to see if someone else could. The NBA is about results not who you like.

  • Mar 17, 20135:07 pm
    by Derek

    Reply

    Going into this season there was reason to believe we could compete for the 8th spot.  The start of last season was horrendous, but then the light turned on and we started clicking.  The guys started understanding the defensive rotations and the play went back to gritty basketball.  We had yet another season of improvement from Greg Monroe.  And there was a resurrgence of Rodney Stuckey.  Stuck hit game winners.  He dropped big buckets.  He turned around some bad performances with big ones.  Knight was a steal and showed some promise.

    We never really considered how good Drummond was because for all intents and purposes he was a project.

    Reality set in as we struggled out the gate.  Stuckey, Knight, and Monroe were in a ridiculous lump.  We saw some good stuff but nothing that resulted in wins.  Then the team just gave up.  Our record is what it is because the guys just mailed it in.  Many are going through the motions.  

    I don’t know what to say about this team.  I’m almost as disgusted with them as I was with the Kuester teams.  There are only 4 players I’d like see return.  The rest can go kick rocks.    

    • Mar 17, 201311:34 pm
      by tim

      Reply

      The point of this grade (I think) is evaluating their performance over the 3rd quarter of the season.  They started the quarter in the hunt for the 8th seed (only a couple of games back) and have completely shit the bed over the last 20 games.  It doesnt matter if they should have expected to make the playoffs or not, the point is that they were right there in the hunt and fell to pieces.  Any pistons fan who thinks this has been acceptable is not really a fan.  

      • Mar 18, 201312:31 am
        by tarsier

        Reply

        “Any pistons fan who thinks this has been acceptable is not really a fan”

        Not necessarily, but any such person is missing something. Because it is clearly not acceptable, it is either ideal or awful. The former for any intelligent enough to realize that the Pistons weren’t making the playoffs, even before the recent run of big time losing. The latter for any delusional enough to think that the Pistons had a real shot at getting into the postseason.

        But it’s just asshole-ish to tell someone that he/she is “not really a fan”. You holding some set of opinions does not make them the gold standard. 

  • Mar 17, 20136:32 pm
    by Tristan

    Reply

    No, it doesn’t “sound about right”.  The Pistons are not a talented team.  There is Monroe, who is above average, but not great.  Calderon is very good.  Drummond might be a great player but he’s injured.  Other than that, I don’t see much talent on the team. 

    • Mar 17, 20138:55 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Monroe is above average and Calderon is very good? I think you have those flipped.

  • Mar 17, 20137:07 pm
    by gmehl

    Reply

    As of today we are 6th worst going into the lottery and if New Orleans wins today we’ll be 5th. I will be happy if we can end up with the 4th worst record which i feel is achievable due to Minnesota, Phoenix, New Orleans playing a lot of games against each other or against us. The key to the 4th worst record will be if we can lose both games we play against Minnesota and one against Cleveland. Here are the remaining games for the 7 worst teams not including Orlando and Charlotte (games in bold are ones against teams vying for top 5 draft picks) :
    Phoenix (22-45)
    L.A. Lakers
    Washington
    Minnesota
    Brooklyn
    Utah
    Sacramento
    Indiana
    L.A. Clippers
    Golden State
    New Orleans
    Houston
    Dallas
    Minnesota
    Houston
    Denver
     
    Cleveland (22-44)
    Indiana
    Miami
    Houston
    Boston
    Philadelphia
    New Orleans
    Atlanta
    Brooklyn
    Boston
    Orlando
    Indiana
    Detroit
    New York
    Philadelphia
    Miami
    Charlotte
     
    New Orleans (22-44)
    Minnesota
    Golden State
    Boston
    Memphis
    Denver
    L.A. Clippers
    Miami
    Cleveland
    Golden State
    Utah
    Phoenix
    L.A. Lakers
    Sacramento
    L.A. Clippers
    Dallas
    Dallas
     
    Minnesota (22-41)
    New Orleans
    Memphis
    Sacramento
    Phoenix
    Chicago
    Detroit
    L.A. Lakers
    Oklahoma City
    Memphis
    Boston
    Milwaukee
    Toronto
    Detroit
    Golden State
    L.A. Clippers
    Utah
    Phoenix
    Utah
    San Antonio
     
    Detroit (23-45)
    Brooklyn
    Miami
    Charlotte
    Minnesota
    Toronto
    Chicago
    Toronto
    Boston
    Minnesota
    Chicago
    Cleveland
    Charlotte
    Philadelphia
    Brooklyn
     
    Sacramento (23-43)
    L.A. Lakers
    L.A. Clippers
    Minnesota
    Denver
    Philadelphia
    Golden State
    Phoenix
    L.A. Lakers
    Houston
    Dallas
    Memphis
    New Orleans
    San Antonio
    Houston
    Oklahoma City
    L.A. Clippers
     
    Washington (23-42)
    Charlotte
    Phoenix
    L.A. Lakers
    Golden State
    Memphis
    Oklahoma City
    Orlando
    Toronto
    Chicago
    Toronto
    Indiana
    Boston
    New York
    Miami
    Philadelphia
    Brooklyn

    • Mar 17, 20138:50 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Why do you keep posting these remaining schedules? We can all look them up if we want. And it just takes a bunch of time to scroll past them. Normally, I’m all for giving support for your points. But in this case, you can just state your point without two (it used to be three) full screens worth of lists of upcoming opponents.

      Schedules are not only non-debatable, they are really, really easy to find. 

      • Mar 17, 201310:02 pm
        by gmehl

        Reply

        Duly noted and my apologies. I just can’t wait for this nightmare of a season to come to an end. I really hate rooting for the pistons to lose so we can get better lottery odds.

        • Mar 17, 201310:19 pm
          by tarsier

          Reply

          I wasn’t trying to sound pissy. I’m sorry if I came across that way. It just seemed sub-optimal. Like when people try to post a spreadsheet (which I have attempted once).

          • Mar 18, 20135:54 am
            by gmehl

            That’s cool i can see how it can be annoying…no offence taken. Hopefully all things work out and we end up with a top 3 pick :-)

        • Mar 17, 201311:36 pm
          by tim

          Reply

          then dont.  Root for them to actually pull a game out and not play like utter crap.  They definitely have more talent than they have shown, but there is little chemistry and no winning ethic/will.  

          • Mar 18, 201312:34 am
            by tarsier

            you see, some fans actually want what’s best for the team, not sine meaningless victories that would, on average, hurt it long-term.

            they do have more talent than they have shown, but ideally they start showing it at the beginning of next season, not down the stretch of this one. 

          • Mar 18, 20136:09 am
            by gmehl

            @Tim the reason i want them to ‘not win’ many more games is so we can end up with the 4th worst record so we can end up with a good shot at a top 4 pick. Anyone of Ben McLemore, Marcus Smart, Otto Porter, Shabazz Muhammad, Anthony Bennett or Victor Oladipo could considerably help this team next season. That’s 6 guys that i wouldn’t mind us having and after that the talent level drops a rung with maybe the exception of Trey Burke. I really hope we end up with Porter or Oladipo as i feel they both fill needs. Being realistic Charlotte and Orlando will finish with the worst records but after that where any team finishes is up for grabs.

            In defence of my comment above i don’t like that i want the pistons to lose but if you want to blame anyone for me doing so then direct your anger towards Joe Dumars for the team he has assembled or David Stern for rewarding mediocrity.

    • Mar 17, 201311:20 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Also, why set your sights on 4th worst overall? Detroit won’t catch Charlotte or Orlando. But everyone else is well within reach. No other team is more than half a game behind the Pistons. So they have a legit shot at third worst record. That would yield a 96% chance at a top 5 pick.

  • Mar 17, 20137:15 pm
    by DasMark

    Reply

    This season has been absolutely awful. Drummond has been the one bright spot, barring his injury. 

    Monroe and Knight disappointed consistently. Stuckey regressed to a d-league level player. Everyone else, besides Will Bynum, never gave anything consistently.

    Give us a top five pick, and I’ll be on my way.  

  • Mar 17, 20137:21 pm
    by Ari

    Reply

    The talent is there, LOL.  This guy clearly doesn’t watch the Detroit Pistons at all.  There’s so much useless dead weight on this roster it’s not even funny.  Sometimes I think fans and even media don’t realize that when looking at bad basketball teams, which the Pistons clearly have been for several seasons, that even guys who seemingly put up decent numbers may not be all that good.  There is a reason that they are not winning players.  I would get rid of just about everyone except Drummond, and perhaps Knight and Monroe and a couple of the rookie prospects.  Monroe is solid, but you could make the case that he’s overrated too.  No solid go to move and still too turnover prone.  Bynum, Stuckey, Maxiel, CV, JJ, Slava, CG, are not a winning core in this league, plain and simple.  Calderon’s a nice offensive player, but suspect defensively and he’s not getting any younger either.      

    • Mar 17, 201311:38 pm
      by tim

      Reply

      almost all of this roster could contribute on a playoff-bound team.  I know fans like to talk in hyperbole, but players like bynum, JJ, maxiell and even CV are legit nba players who would earn minutes on most teams in the league.  Now, I dont deny this team is a mess, but to try and act like this is a D-league roster is just patently false.  

  • Mar 17, 20138:43 pm
    by jacob

    Reply

    Honestly Drummond stays probably Monroe and Knight do to. If we can surround these players with better talent through free agency and the draft they will be better players themselves. Good players make other players better. So everyone wanting all of our team gone are crazy. We need another solid pick. Add a few good free agents and this team will be much imroved.

  • Mar 17, 201310:36 pm
    by Travis

    Reply

    I hate the lottery. I seriously don’t want to see the Pistons in another lottery for at least 6 seasons. I’m a Lions fan that salivates at who they are going to pick with their top 10 pick every year. Monroe-Knight-Drummond-2013 pick; last lottery picks (unless aquired through a trade) until 2019. 

    I want my son to grow up knowing a winning Pistons team like I did with the Bad Boys and Teal Years. Oh, wait – scratch the teal years. 

    • Mar 17, 201310:37 pm
      by Travis

      Reply

      *I’m not a Lions fan…
      Phrasing… :/ 

    • Mar 17, 201311:17 pm
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Nobody wants their team perennially in the lottery. But if they’re gonna be there, might as well have a really high pick.

  • Mar 17, 201311:31 pm
    by tarsier

    Reply

    Any thoughts on how Detroit’s draft board should look? I’m thinking:

    McLemore
    Porter
    Oladipo
    Noel
    Bennet
    Muhammad/Burke/Harris/Poythress/Smart (basically, if one of the first five isn’t available, try to trade down)

    • Mar 17, 201311:42 pm
      by jacob

      Reply

      Smart should be someone that we should take. Burke if all others are gone and we are picking like 8 or 9. Mclemore, Porter or Noel anywhere. Oladipo 6 or 7.

      • Mar 18, 201312:43 am
        by tarsier

        Reply

        What’s so intriguing about Smart? I know that he is projected really high, but the more I see him, the less impressed I am.

        He looks like a Rodney Stuckey with better D and worse ball-handling. Basically a combo guard who is intriguing only if he can learn to be a PG because then he would have terrific size for his position. He’s a great penetrator who is awful at finishing once he gets to the hole and has no jumper but insists upon shooting tons of 3s anyway. But he could be a real asset to a team if he stops shooting from deep because of his ability to get to the line. Also, he does work harder, especially on defense.

        Obviously, I’d rather have Smart than Stuckey, but mostly just because he is younger and has more room to improve. I am mystified by his placement at 3rd overall on Chad Ford’s big board. 

        • Mar 18, 20132:22 am
          by Worm

          Reply

          I look at him as (I think Dumars described Drummond like this as well) a piece of clay. He has every measurable you’d look for in an elite point guard. You don’t seem like the type to put much stock into this sort of thing but by all accounts he is a fierce competitor and leader. He is dragging his very average teammates along with him to the NCAA tourney, which is pretty impressive even if his shooting numbers aren’t. Also as you said, he is younger than Stuckey was when he was drafted which is hugely important to GM’s.

          • Mar 18, 20139:02 am
            by tarsier

            Don’t get me wrong, he looks like a nice prospect. Just, in my opinion, not a top 3 prospect. Probably in the 7-10 range.

          • Mar 18, 201311:45 am
            by oats

            I agree with tarsier, 7-10 sounds about right for a guy like Smart. We’re talking about a point guard that can’t pass or shoot and he’s somehow being talked about as a contender for the top pick. He’s got no range, he isn’t an elite finisher even if he is an elite player at getting to the rim, and he has he same assist/turnover numbers as Brandon Knight. Someone should take him. If he learns to finish he becomes Monta Ellis with good defense. That’s one heck of a player. I guess if he learns to finish, shoot, pass, and not turn the ball over he could be a great point guard, but that seems unrealistic. I hate the idea of picking him up and hoping one of him or Knight becomes a competent point guard because I doubt either one can do it. Besides that, I think the Pistons are better off getting shooters along the perimeter in order to free up some space for the big men to operate. As such, I think Smart’s trade value is just higher than his value to Detroit.

    • Mar 18, 201310:28 am
      by vic

      Reply

      1. Porter. 
      2. Porter.
      3. Otto Jr.
      4. The Small forward from Missouri via Georgetown
      5. Trey Burke
      6. Ben Mclemore
      7. Oladipo
      8. Marcus Smart – going against my draft rules here because he can’t shoot. But defensively he’s just unreal. 

      • Mar 18, 201311:05 am
        by tarsier

        Reply

        Porter over McLemore I can see. But Burke over McLemore? That doesn’t seem quite right.

        • Mar 18, 201311:38 am
          by vic

          Reply

          Yeah that’s debatable if Calderon stays…
          but since we don’t know if Calderon is staying I’d just go with Burke if I had the choice.

          Burke can handle the ball and he’s more consistent than McLemore. He’s less athletic but overall I think Burke is going to have the better career… 

    • Mar 18, 201312:57 pm
      by oats

      Reply

      Porter
      McLemore (I think he will get better, but right now he does little outside of shooting. Porter is just a more complete player right now. I sometimes have McLemore atop my draft board, but right now I have Porter on top.)
      Oladipo
      Noel
      Bennet
      Smart (Take him to trade down. He’s the one with the highest value left, so if no one trades up while on the clock, pick Smart and start shopping him. Besides, NBA teams love waiting to make certain the player they have targeted is still there at the point that they want to trade down to)
       
      Burke/Harris/Muhammad/Poythress as the key guys to target trading down, and I think in that order. I’m really not certain on Muhammad. His post game needs a lot of polish to be useful in the NBA, and if he doesn’t do that then he will just be a 3 and D player. I think he will get it done because he obviously likes playing from there, but it isn’t a sure thing. On top of that, I don’t know how useful a wing player who plays in the post that much would be for Detroit. The other problem is that the floor for Harris is a better 3 and D guy than Muhammad projects as. I’ve had Muhammad as the top of this group and the end of it at various times this season. Right now I have Muhammad and Harris as a virtual coin flip.
       
      On another note, I always think Poythress looks like he should be higher on this list, but then I realize that he just isn’t that productive and he’s a bit of a tweener. Maybe Poythress is just held back by the Kentucky system, but I really don’t get why they are so willing to let Goodwin take so many shots when Poythress seems so much better than him. I’m concerned he hasn’t done more to assert himself on a team that looks like it really could have benefited from him doing so.
       
      Yeah, my board is pretty similar to yours tarsier.

      • Mar 18, 20131:41 pm
        by tarsier

        Reply

        Wow, I really do pretty much agree with you across the board. I have McLemore and Porter pretty much in flux. I could put them in either order. Ditto for Noel, Bennet, Oladipo. I think Noel is the best prospect, Oladipo the worst. But by a thin margin. And Oladipo is the best fit for Detroit, Noel the worst.

        I have reservations about Harris. He’s a fantastic defender and is super young (still 18 by the time of the draft). But he is undersized, not so much in height as in his tiny 6’6″ wingspan. That limits his ceiling. Also, he contributes very little outside of defense. He shoots well enough, and fairly efficiently, but that’s largely a factor of not having to take many shots. And I don’t know how many starting players have ever had such a low combined rebounds and assists total.

        And I doubt I’d select Muhammad as a trade down target. I just don’t think he will be drafted enough later than those other guys that you could get much by dropping to wherever he is taken.

        Burke and Poythress look liable to be taken in the 10-15 range. I think they would be excellent value there. 

        • Mar 18, 20132:27 pm
          by oats

          Reply

          Agreed. Especially on Muhammad, who I think will go too high to be the guy on a downwards move. I only list him because there is a chance he slips from his current projections. Harris could also be in that 10-15 range and would be a solid value pick there. While I have reservations about him, he fills two of Detroit’s biggest needs with defense and 3 point shooting. This team is just so starved for his skill set that he has to be a guy they look at. He’s a good enough athlete that his defense still projects well despite his size issues, and he might even become a decent dribble penetration guy. I think he’s probably a 3 and D guy, but he could be more and Detroit needs some 3s and some D anyways. If you missed out on the top 5 guys in my list then those guys represent the sweet spot for a move down in my opinion.

          • Mar 18, 20132:54 pm
            by tarsier

            If Harris were available after 12 or so, I would happily snatch him up. But much higher than that and I just think you need to try to snag someone with more upside.

            Do you think he has any shot at being better than say Kawhi Leonard or Wesley Matthews? Those are guys who I wish would be FAs this summer.

            Ideal scenario: Pistons win the lottery. Orlando ends up 3rd or 4th. Detroit trades down in exchange for Afflalo and drafts Porter. Monroe develops a 15 foot jumper. Afflalo, Porter, and Drummond can hide defensive deficiencies of Monroe and Calderon.

          • Mar 18, 20133:28 pm
            by Huddy

            Trading down in the top 6-7 would be very tough.  There isn’t a clear cut #1 pick so I doubt Orlando is giving up one of its best players for a short jump up in the lottery.  They could be just as happy staying at 3-4 and getting Porter themselves at least as opposed to giving up Afflalo to do it. 
             
            I am all for going best available this year but I wondering for everyone putting Oladipo towards the top of their lists if there is much concern about his size.  I like his athleticism and work on D, but I would be worried about another undersized guard on this team.  Granted he isn’t terribly small, but a bigger SG would be favorable especially since it gives us more options with our starting SG already being small. 

          • Mar 18, 20134:11 pm
            by tarsier

            How is Oladipo, at 6’5″, an undersized SG? My one concern with him is that, as a junior, he may have less room for improvement than some others. But he is a young junior. 

            Afflalo is one of Orlando’s best players. But that’s saying something about Orlando, not Afflalo. he is a guy with value, but not an overwhelming amount. And his best years will probably be behind him by the time Orlando is good again.

            If anything, Afflalo is a really low price to pay to jump from 3 or 4 to 1. 

          • Mar 18, 20134:44 pm
            by oats

            @tarsier. Leonard is pretty close to what I’d call the likely cap for Harris. He doesn’t have Leonard’s size or rebounding ability, but he probably will be the better shooter. I think Harris might be a bit better defensively than Matthews, but he’s another really good comparison. Harris needs to work on passing a bit to get up to Matthews, but it’s not like Matthews is all that good at it. I see him somewhere in that range of player though, and there isn’t anything wrong with that in 10-15 range. I have him clearly behind Burke, and I can buy arguments he belongs behind Poythress too, but I’m convinced Harris will be a good pro who fills some huge holes for Detroit.
             
            @Huddy. Oladipo is 6’5″ and crazy athletic. I have zero concerns with him being undersized, unless your thinking Oladipo is a small forward. He can probably play the 3 for a few minutes, but I wouldn’t want to leave him there. I’d hope to start Oladipo at the 2 and make Knight the 6th man, but I wouldn’t complain if I had to reverse that because Knight is just playing that well. The team still would need to address SF, but I could live with a Singler, Middleton, Jerebko battle for minutes there next year in an absolute worst case scenario.
             
            I also agree that Afflalo isn’t that steep of a price if you are really high on Noel to pair with Vucevic. I have to admit, I really like that idea for them. If I was Orlando I’d do it and use the cap space freed up to help make a run at OJ Mayo. This makes so much sense that it probably wouldn’t actually happen.

          • Mar 18, 20135:10 pm
            by oats

            Almost forgot, my bigger concern with Oladipo is his shooting. His 3 point shooting numbers jumped by roughly 25% from last year. I’m willing to bet he got better, but not that much better. Considering he’s only taken 135 three point shots in his entire career, I’m leaning towards small sample size skewing the numbers. He’s hit 33% of 3s over his career, but 27 of the 45 makes are from this year. I like to think that means we should expect him to be an average 3 point shooter, but it could just be him taking advantage of the shorter arc and all the attention on Zeller to get extremely favorable looks in very limited attempts. If it turns out that the career percentage is the better indicator of what to expect from him once he goes pro then he isn’t going to be worth the high lottery pick it will likely take to get him. That’s especially true since he hasn’t really turned his athleticism in to an ability to consistently score when driving to the hoop. I mean, he does it well when he does it, but he doesn’t do it all that often. Oladipo is definitely a high risk, high reward guy. He could be the best player in the draft, or he could be a Tony Allen clone.

          • Mar 19, 201311:06 am
            by Huddy

            I can see how Noel is good for Orlando, my point is just that with the top spot not being a sure thing this year its a gamble to give up something if you are at 3 anyway.  In addition, they have needs everywhere except for center so really as much as I agree Noel would be great for them so would Mclemore or Porter etc.  Since they have so many holes I would be surprised to see them give up assets so that they could fill a specific one.
             
            Yup I did mean SF thats my bad, thats what I meant by him playing along side BK starting.  I would prefer someone at SF with size over Oladipo because I don’t see us benching Knight (or necessarily think thats the right move) so If we are going to draft someone thats going to come off our bench I’d rather trade down and get Burke because he plays a position that we will need to fill rather soon and this may be our last high draft pick for some time with the opportunity to bring in a rookie with real talent at PG.  we have young big men, a young SG, a young role player SF so if our draft pick is coming off the bench then it would be beneficial for it to be the PG of the future learning from Calderon and preparing to take over.  I’m definitely a fan of Porter, Maclemore, Shabazz, guys that could potentially be our starting Sf.  I just wouldn’t be that enthused about picking up a guy like Oladipo because of where he fits in our future.  If Knight starts will Oladipo always be our 6th man?  if so I think we would regret leaving future starting talent in favor of bolstering our bench based on where the team is right now.  That being said this is all assumptions and hopes about what guys will become what so nothings a sure thing so as long as we get value either in the player we pick or the player/trading down value I will be happy this year.

  • Mar 18, 20139:20 am
    by Robb

    Reply

    Any hope of getting a new coach or coaches from the draft?

    • Mar 18, 201310:03 am
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Draft Jerry Sloan in the second round.

  • Mar 18, 201310:12 am
    by Scott Free

    Reply

    Anyone else get the feeling that Detroit is fielding the leagues deepest bench plus Monroe/Calderone?  I mean if you got Knight, Stuckey, Singler, Jerebko, & Maxiel coming in off the bench — not bad, right?  You have them starting and, well, you’ve seen.

    • Mar 18, 201310:50 am
      by MIKEYDE248

      Reply

      Most of our teams is a bunch of role plays, but most teams don’t start 5 really good players.  If you have 3 or 4, most teams would be happy.

      Next year hopefully we’ll have Monroe, Drummond, maybe Jose, a top 6 pick in the draft and a free agent signing.  That could be a good team, with a good coach thrown in there too.  We these starters, it makes their role players start to look better.

  • Leave a Reply

    Your Ad Here