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Pleasing Pistons fall to Lakers by one

Simple recap: The Pistons played well. The Lakers played well.

This was one of the Pistons’ most pleasing games of the season. They trailed by eight in the first quarter and tied the game in the second quarter. Then, they trailed by 18 in the third quarter and tied the game in the fourth quarter. There’s no shame in being only one point worse today, just as there would have been no shame for the Lakers if the Pistons had pulled out the win.

The Pistons are far from perfect, but they played hard and they played and played unselfishly. After the last few years, just being entertaining more often than not is progress, and they were definitely that tonight.

I can only imagine what Jose Calderon will add.

Los Angeles Lakers 98 Final
Recap | Box Score
97 Detroit Pistons
Jason Maxiell, PF 25 MIN | 3-7 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | -12

Maxiell did plenty of things – going hard after rebounds, dunking, blocking shots – I really like. But he’s way too in love with his mid-range jumper (0-for-3 today). Cut those out, or at least limit them, and he’d be a lot more effective.

Greg Monro , C 32 MIN | 9-14 FG | 2-2 FT | 12 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 4 TO | 20 PTS | -4

Monroe has shot 49-for-83 (59 percent) in his last six games after a relatively inefficient start to the season. He’s doing an excellent job of establishing deep post position and patiently picking his spots. Add excellent rebounding and at least effort on defense, and Monroe is starting to play like we all hoped he would this season.

Rodney Stuckey, PG 23 MIN | 3-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 5 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 6 PTS | -3

He passed the ball alright, but Stuckey was such a non-factor, the Pistons had Kyle Singler defend Kobe Bryant down the stretch.

Brandon Knight, PG 34 MIN | 3-13 FG | 4-4 FT | 5 REB | 7 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 10 PTS | -10

As we’ve seen, Knight isn’t good enough to start as a distributing guard right now. I also worry he’s not good enough to starting as a scoring guard, either. He just hasn’t proven himself an efficient enough shooter. He moved the ball well today as a complementary option, but he’s sort of stuck in the middle between both backcourt roles. Right now, he’s good enough to be a combo guard off the bench on a good team. There’s plenty of time for him to improve, but I still wonder how much the Jose Calderon trade indicates the Pistons aren’t totally sold on Knight. Also, Knight is docked points for poor form in his dust-up with Metta World Peace. You can’t go at someone like World Peace and duck your head into his chest. Better advice: Don’t be a small guard and go at World Peace.

Kyle Singler, SG 40 MIN | 4-12 FG | 1-2 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 11 PTS | +12

Singler worked hard on defense, drawing a charge on World Peace, but the Kobe Bryant assignment was too much for him. Singler is doing alright for what he is, a rookie who was as second-round pick, but the Pistons should be looking to upgrade their wings this offseason.

Jonas Jerebko, PF 10 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | -6

Jerebko made a 3-pointer late in the first quarter that really got him going. He was more engaged on both ends, working to get open offensively and hitting the glass defensively. But his ability to guard his man was lacking, especially on Kobe’s half-ending alley-oop to Earl Clark.

Charlie Villanueva, PF 16 MIN | 4-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 10 PTS | +3

Villanueva scored all 10 of his points in the final eight minutes, so he really stood out during an exciting finish. But, overall, his contributions were closer to average.

Andre Drummond, C 23 MIN | 4-10 FG | 1-4 FT | 11 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 4 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | +11

Without Tayshaun Prince, who was arguably the team’s top perimeter defender, are the Pistons funneling more drives to Drummond? His four blocks match a career high against legitimate NBA teams,* and his two steals were also impressive (especially the one he took right to the basket himself before being fouled). Drummond was solid with his lob receptions, but he was a defensive game-changer. And it certainly looked like Pau Gasol fouled Drummond on the last-second lob attempt, but no more so than the type of fouls that usually get overlooked at the ends of games.

*Every team besides the John Wall-less Wizards.

Will Bynum, PG 29 MIN | 9-18 FG | 0-1 FT | 1 REB | 10 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 18 PTS | +13

The Lakers haven’t defended penetrating point guards well for years, and Bynum took full advantage. When the Pistons’ offense stagnated otherwise in the second quarter, Bynum made five straight Detroit field goals. Then, as the Lakers collapsed on his drives, Bynum transitioned well into a quality distributor. The Pistons’ offense was way more aesthetically pleasing than usual. Prince’s departure is certainly a reason, but Bynum was also a key factor.

Kim English, SG 8 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -9

I thought English could become what Kevin Pelton calls a 3&D player, someone who spaces the floor on one end and defends well on the other. But English’s defense must improve a great deal before he can fill that role.

Lawrence Frank

The Pistons are a player short, and it shows. Knight played poorly and received 34 minutes. Stuckey was off and still got 23 minutes. Singler was just so-so in his six minutes at guard, but he provided more than English did in his eight minutes. Detroit really struggled in just two situations: when its starting lineup was in (-11 in 13 minutes) and when English was in (-9 in eight minutes). Once Calderon can play, the starting lineup will change and English will likely drop out of the rotation. In the meantime, I’m not sure what else Frank can do with the backcourt.

As far as the front court, I’ll let Mike D’Antoni take this one:

"Drummond’s great, but when he’s in the game, it usually means Monroe isn’t, which is good for us."

55 Comments

  • Feb 3, 20134:49 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    As far as the front court, I’ll let Mike D’Antoni take this one:

    “Drummond’s great, but when he’s in the game, it usually means Monroe isn’t, which is good for us.”

    That say it all

     

    • Feb 3, 20135:49 pm
      by Steve K

      Reply

      Great find on that quote, DF. It really does say it all.

    • Feb 3, 201311:25 pm
      by ZekeKhaseli

      Reply

      D’antoni took the words right from mouth

  • Feb 3, 20134:54 pm
    by basketballistruth

    Reply

    Knight does not deserve a D+, even though he did not shoot the ball particularly well, he had  assist in the first quarter alone!  

  • Feb 3, 20134:54 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    Not gonna get into the back and forth …

    But your grade was kinda harsh on Knight…

    yes he had a poor shooting night…but 7 ast, 5 rebs and 3 stls…and he took all of the tough defensively assignments especially when they went small with Bynum in the backcourt….

    C+ 

    Sometimes Knight just cant win, he didn pout when Bynum was running the point, he was charming on the bench and brought alot of that energy into the game… once again a poor shooting night but he excepted his role and didnt force anything…
     

    • Feb 4, 201312:10 am
      by tim

      Reply

      he was on metta a ton of the game.  That is not really the tough defensive assignment.  He had a poor game outside of the start IMO

    • Feb 4, 20136:40 am
      by Derek

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      Brandon turned it over 3 times and made up for it (as far as I’m concerned) with 3 steals and 7 assists.  He didn’t back down against the bully on the block, despite having his head pushed down and getting punched in the face.  The kid has grit.  I loved the dunk on Gasol. 

      I loved the fight in the Pistons roaring to a near win. 

  • Feb 3, 20134:56 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    should say “he was cheering for Bynum on the Bench, and he didnt pout “

  • Feb 3, 20135:18 pm
    by Sevan

    Reply

    so the pistons have been crying for a good center i dont know for the past 4 or 5 seasons and now we got Drummond who is an excellent center and we don’t start him I SERIOUSLY DO NOT KNOW WHATS IN FRANK’S MIND THAT IS NOT MAKING DRUMMOND START. 

  • Feb 3, 20135:19 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    its terrible at this stage that Monroe and Drummond are not playing extended minutes together…

    Soo much that opposing coaching are calling it a good thing….

    this is the time to see can they play together, Maxiell numbers have been in a decline for the 2-3 months….

    and he can dominate games 

  • Feb 3, 20135:31 pm
    by Piston Moribund

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    Bullwinkle was awful on the pick and roll defense.  He still looks lost most of the time when he is out there and his rotation sucks.  He doesn’t provide any interior defense and is not quick enough to rotate over for the weak wide help.  Most of the time off the switch he is just floating out there in no mans land.   If he cant shore up the inside, its pointless to have him on the floor late since you cant get stops.  It’s probably why he was not on the floor at the end of a close game, no D.  That why the big D is on the floor instead.  Granted he has offensive skillz but his D leaves much to be desired.

    • Feb 3, 20139:29 pm
      by gmehl

      Reply

      “Bullwinkle was awful on the pick and roll defence. He still looks lost most of the time when he is out there and his rotation sucks.”

      I am worried that when Monroe and Drummond do finally play together that Monroe’s slow defensive rotations will lead to fouls by Drummond trying to cover for him.

  • Feb 3, 20136:21 pm
    by Mone

    Reply

    I officially don’t like Dumars… Why the @#$% would you still have a coach that doesn’t play start the best defender, rebounder, shot blocker, stealer, and hustler??? Fire this dumb ass coach already….

    • Feb 3, 20137:16 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      LOL@STEALER!

      He might be the best all-around defensive big man in the league, atleast in the top 3 

    • Feb 3, 20137:36 pm
      by T Casey

      Reply

      Not only that, Frank’s handling of Monroe was almost criminal today.

      • Feb 3, 20138:01 pm
        by I HATE FRANK

        Reply

        he doesnt know how to play drummond and Monroe together…thats a problem…

      • Feb 4, 20131:54 am
        by Worm

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        I was basically screaming at my tv for the last 5 minutes of the game because of this. The Pistons best player, who just so happens to be having a great game, doesn’t get in until he has to rebound a free throw with 3 seconds left. Unfathomable.

        • Feb 4, 20138:57 am
          by G

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          I thought it cost them big too. Late in the game the Pistons didn’t have enough offense on the court and Drummond had to shoot a fadeaway to beat the shot clock. If Monroe is SUCH a defensive liability, put him on MWP! I know Charlie V was good late, but I’d rather have Monroe in that situation and Singler defending Kobe (he wasn’t good, but who else was going to do it?)

  • Feb 3, 20136:57 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    I missed this game today…It’s good to see Knight with 7ast, 5 rebs, 3stls while his shot wasn’t falling…Plus Knight stood up to MWP, he should get a B+ for that!..I understand the frustration about Knight not being consistent, he really needs to get that together…

  • Feb 3, 20136:58 pm
    by Javell

    Reply

    B knight at least deserves C … Come on he dunked over a 7 footer…. was getting assist!

  • Feb 3, 20137:35 pm
    by T Casey

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    Maybe I’m missing something, but I strongly feel Frank deserves an F for this game. The team was playing hard and together and even the players who weren’t scoring well were defending and moving around, rebounding, and keeping the ball moving and playing like a team. Frank, however, seemed completely clueless out there.

    In the first half, Monroe was playing great while Stuckey, Singler, and even Knight were all playing fairly well. The weak link out there in the starting unit was Maxiell. Yet, for some reason, when the bench was obviously not clicking and digging the team a hole he continued to give them extended run and his answer was to bring Maxiell back early despite the fact that he was easily the least productive starter to that point. I won’t say he iced the other starters, but sitting guys who are in rythm offensively is never a recipe for success.

    However, that’s not too terrible for Frank. Easily his worst move was keeping Monroe out of the game in the 4th. The guy was easily the best player on the court through the first 3 quarters with 20 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 2 steals. He was scoring in every way, posting up, knocking down his open j’s, and finishing on the break while rebounding at an incredibly high clip. Yet, again for some unknown reason, he got absolutely no run in the 4th quarter after he came out at the 10 minute mark until 18 seconds were left in the game and he only came in for 2 rebound opportunities before being pulled immediately each time.

    How in holy hell does that make any sense? Both of your young bigs are dominating and you refuse to play them together. Monroe was dominating on both ends and was easily the best offensive player in the game, but he couldn’t get any run in the 4th? Not even after we had finally tied the game late?

    Also, Will Bynum wasn’t as good as his stats imply, imo. For every good play he made, he made almost an equally bad one and on almost all his misses, due to overpenetration, the Lakers wound up getting a fast break so even when he wasn’t turning the ball over, his misses were almost as bad as turnovers.

    • Feb 3, 20139:14 pm
      by Piston Moribund

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      Bullwinkle had 4 turnovers.  He was stripped on a couple of plays.  He cant be out there with Dre because they will clog up the lane.  With CV, who scored 10 in the fourth, you have someone who spreads the floor.  You cant win if you can’t stop the other team from scoring.

      • Feb 3, 201310:19 pm
        by T Casey

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        It didn’t look like we had too much trouble stopping them from scoring when Drummond was in the paint behind him. One of our best defensive stretches came when Monroe and Drummond were in the game together in the 2nd. Monroe’s defense really only seems to be a factor when he’s running center because he’s not a real center as they say and Maxiell often provides little help patrolling the paint so we have 2 non shot blockers down there.

        And on the flipside, Bynum had 3 turnovers himself while taking a bunch of horrible shots that created fast break opportunity after fast break opportunity for the Lakers, but he closes the game. I don’t see any consistency there. It just reeks of dumb, inconsistent coaching.

  • Feb 3, 20138:12 pm
    by DasMark

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    If Maxiell isn’t traded at the deadline, my mind will be boggled as to why they play him so much. 

    • Feb 4, 20131:51 am
      by Nate

      Reply

      Prepare to have your mind boggled.

  • Feb 3, 20138:25 pm
    by Mark

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    Please ditch Stuckey fast. His game just has not progressed and won’t with a coach who has never played a lick of competitive basketball. His game would blossom in Boston under Doc Rivers since he has been both play and coach. You can’t coach vicariously(Frank). 

  • Feb 3, 20139:07 pm
    by M Boyd

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    Wow this guy would be an awful teacher, his grading system is terrible.  Knight did not sholt well, but he did everything else right.  Not a great game as a shooter, but a good game as a PG.  Sorry he is not Kyrie!     I’m suprise he got such a good grade for the Cavs game since he did not score 100 points and record a quadruple double.

    • Feb 3, 201310:26 pm
      by T Casey

      Reply

      Agreed. He didn’t play particularly well, but his poor scoring was the only thing that kept him out. He was finding guys pretty well when the ball was in his hands and played solid defense too. And the part about his scuffle with Artest was dumb. How do you knock a guy for sticking up for himself when a guy is grabbing him by the back of his neck and is trying to manhandle him? That’s a good sign in my book. He did what he should’ve done.

      • Feb 3, 201310:49 pm
        by I HATE FRANK

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        Knight had some crazy matchups on defense…but he didnt play soft at all….. 

      • Feb 4, 20131:19 am
        by sb3

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        Seriously. Artest has a couple inches and 40 pounds on him iirc. If anything, I’d compliment him for not backing down against a bigger, stronger nut job. 

  • Feb 3, 20139:40 pm
    by domnick

    Reply

    i want some tyreke evans now… please trade with KINGS!

  • Feb 3, 201310:39 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    i wont bash Frank….

    My expectation for him is soo low…I consider this to be a well coached game by his standards…

    too many excuses have been made for his decision all year long…

    People get on me for believing in Knight, and his ability to be a effective PG…

    But we have just settled into Frank, Folks there no trading Frank.

    Remember when we believed Drummond and Monroe would be the center pieces of this team, under frank hey are like pieces that just dont fit…

    This is an old vent:

    But we said all last years that that we just need a center, and move Monroe to PF. Thats all we said , get a center, get a center…

    We drafted Drummond and automatically, call him a project, he has been exceeding expectations since day one…. almost half the season is down….. Doesnt even look like Drummond is close to taking Maxiell spot…. So next season, Drummond and Monroe will have to go through growing pains, instead of getting it out of the way now… MONROE has to play PF…so he might as well start now….  

    Drummond just has gotten better, Now they say he has conditioning problems, alot of that is because he has not been playing extended minutes to get himself into game shape… i use to see shaq breathing hard with his hands on his hips to…. But Shaq did not run a high pick and roll 95% of the time on offense…

    Shaq was reserved by allowing him to post up and physically punish players….

    soo many things we have done wrong with Drummond, because at the end of the day he is still depending on his athletic ability, thats not coaching.

     

  • Feb 3, 201311:06 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    December
    16
    22.1
    3.5-5.8
    .609
    0.0-0.0
    .000
    1.0-2.4
    .410
    3.3
    5.0
    8.3
    0.5
    1.8
    0.9
    1.9
    0.8
    8.0

    January
    13
    22.2
    3.9-6.2
    .638
    0.0-0.0
    .000
    0.9-2.7
    .343
    3.2
    6.0
    9.2
    0.5
    2.1
    1.2
    2.8
    0.8
    8.8

    In 0.1 more minutes  …. Look at Drummonds increased production…FG%, Rebs%, Blks%, Stls%,PTS, only concern woulds be fouls…

     

    December
    16
    26.4
    2.9-7.2
    .400
    0.0-0.0
    .000
    1.7-2.6
    .643
    1.8
    4.1
    5.8
    0.5
    1.6
    0.6
    2.6
    1.1
    7.4

    January
    13
    23.2
    2.2-5.2
    .433
    0.0-0.0
    .000
    1.2-1.8
    .667
    1.9
    3.8
    5.8
    0.7
    1.7
    0.4
    1.8
    1.1
    5.7

    Jason Maxiell production in the last 2 months dont even come close to Drummond….

    Its really that simple, and Maxiell minutes have gone to Charlie….

    This need to be posted, Im tired of hearing how tough ans scrappy Maxiell is that great off the bench but not as a starter
     

  • Feb 3, 201311:08 pm
    by Mark

    Reply

    Tyreke Evans is Stuckey 2.0. 

    • Feb 4, 20135:27 am
      by smellman

      Reply

      Agree. I dont know what everyone sees in tyreke

    • Feb 4, 20139:04 am
      by G

      Reply

      Except Tyreke does everything better than Stuckey does. He shoots better, rebounds better, gets to the line (which Stuckey is doing a terrible job of this year, by the way), shoots the 3 MUCH better, he’s bigger, a bit better of a defender (most of the time)…

      I’m not a big Tyreke Evans fan, but he’d be a significant upgrade over Stuckey.

    • Feb 4, 201311:24 am
      by I HATE FRANK

      Reply

      Tyreke Evans is SOOOO Way beyond Stuckey its silly to compare the two players….

      Tyreke has already averaged 20ppg…Stuckey has not

      Tyreke has only shot under 45% once in his career (I believe his injury year)…Stuckey has never shot 45% from the field

      Tyreke has averaged close to 6 ast twice in his Career, Stucky best assist season is 5.2…..

      Tryeke has averaged close to 5 every year in the league….Stuckey best rebounding season is 3.8

      Tyreker also averages more Steals and Blks than Stuckey…

      This year Tyreke is shooting 38% for 3′s …..Stuckey best 3 point shooting season is 32%

      I say all of that to say… HOW IN THE HELL IS TYREKE STUCKEY 2.0???

      BTE: Tyreke is 23 wont turn 24 until September… Stuckey will be turning 27 in April!

  • Feb 3, 201311:16 pm
    by picknroll

    Reply

    I know Bynum’s stats looked good so a higher score is in order but his good games are what a friend calls ‘fools gold’!  His defense is non-existent and many times his missed shots or over penetration are so bad that it leads to run outs for the other team!  He makes a few plays and then gets into that ‘super star’ mindset and tries to do too much!  Please, Mr. Dumars….no new long term contract for Will Bynum!!

  • Feb 3, 201311:22 pm
    by Pratik

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    Great game. We should have won that though. We have to start valuing possessions down the stretch. Pistons tied the game at 95-95, and had a chance to take the lead. Lawrence Frank’s biggest mistake of the entire game was visible here. We had 2 timeouts left with about 41 seconds to go, and he just watched Bynum penetrate and kick out to a covered Brandon Knight for 3. He should have taken a timeout because we had two remaining and set up a play for us to get something easy, as well as bring Monroe into the game instead of CV. 

    After we missed, Kobe drove and got a 3 point play. And then he called timeout. He set up a play for Bynum to attack the basked, which worked, cutting the lead to 1. We again had a chance to take the lead, after Lakers missing free throws, but looked confused on offense and Bynum forced it to Drummond who faded away for a shot. Poor play calling. Yes Stuckey didn’t play great, but he was still competitive, and I felt that both Stuckey and Monroe should have been out there down the stretch, there still much more experienced in these situations then Kyle Singler and Brandon Knight. But Frank simply does not get innovative and tries different things. Even after nash missed the free throws. We have one second left to get a good attempt!! You have to try something completely different which wil through the Lakers off. I would have had Stuckey inbounding and finding either Kyle Singler for the 3, because they would have thought the ball is either going Knight or Bynum, or I would have drawn the play for CV, who can catch and shoot. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT! I do have faith in FRANK, I believe he is a good coach, but sometimes with a young team you have to guide them much differently instead of giving them full responsibility to take any shot they want. Bynum was great, but sometimes he was just way to impatient and fell in love with himself and started forcing passes when he got in trouble. He was also the only reason why we made a come back, but I just can’t wait for Jose to play, he will be so much more calm and relaxed in these situations, glad to see him cheering on the sidelines though, and watching some good Basketball. We really need him to play against the Knicks though, a team we have struggled with all season long. Gotta pull the upset, were now I believe 6 1/2 games behind Boston. 

  • Feb 3, 201311:27 pm
    by Mark

    Reply

    Frank is limited. He will not see the Promised Land. 

  • Feb 3, 201311:52 pm
    by Trent

    Reply

    Why do people want Drummond to start so bad? He can’t play more than 8-10mins at a time without blowing up. He needs to be conditioned and you don’t do that by overworking a 19year old. Work him over now and force him to play extended minutes and his body won’t last. He is still developing.

    That also isn’t to mention the blatant lack of a back up 5. Drummond starts with Moose, then what? You want to play 6’6′ Max as our backup 5 of the softer than butter, scared of the paint charlie v? And dont even mention Slava. It ain’t gonna happen any time soon.

    The bottom line with Dre is we can’t afford to start him for his own good and our own good. I’m not a Frank fan but get off his back about Dre, he is actually doing the right thing. 

    • Feb 4, 201312:24 am
      by NickB

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      We need a backup center who can take pressure off of Drummond and allow him to get some rest when needed. Our second unit will be helpless as it stands now if we start Drummond. We’d have to keep him in a lot longer than I think he can handle, and that might be a bad thing for him. We also need to shift Monroe to power forward permanently to try an accelerate his learning. 
       
      Joe D needs to move Stuckey because there is no room for him on this team, and same for Jason (as soon as Monroe becomes a permanent PF). He should try and use them to grab a backup center, and perhaps even resign Big Ben and rotate the centers frequently. I have no idea how that would work out, but for right now, Slava isn’t ready so Andre is stuck on the bench.

  • Feb 4, 20132:18 am
    by Worm

    Reply

    Drummond is 19 and can’t play 10 straight mins? What’s wrong with him I thought being young would mean more energy. I’m sure he played full games in highschool he was the #1 or 2 player in the country. Charlie v playing when we need a stop is pointless he might be the worst defender in the league moose can’t be worse on D

    • Feb 4, 20139:09 am
      by G

      Reply

      Uh, Drummond played the last 14:26 of the game. He came in the 3rd with 2:26 left and stayed in through the entire 4th quarter. And he didn’t look gassed to me at the end. He was yanking down rebounds, blocking shots, getting steals and running the break…

  • Feb 4, 20132:27 am
    by FireFrank

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    Drummond might have foul trouble playing 35mins but he should not have the stamina of Juwan Howard. Tonight He had 2 fouls and still frank can’t get him on the court ridiculous

  • Feb 4, 20133:00 am
    by domnick

    Reply

    a great chance to see monroe and drummond together is to trade maxiel now…

  • Feb 4, 20136:46 am
    by Derek

    Reply

    How is a player a nonfactor, yet worthy of a C?  Stuckey is such a frustrating player.  He can change the course of a game with his aggressive play.  Or he can go through the motions and bring nothing of worth to the game at all.  He did just enough to warrant not being confused with being a corpse.

    Get the dude out of here!  Please move him!  At least get him out of the rotation.

  • Feb 4, 20139:13 am
    by Crispus

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    Metta World Peace praised Brandon Knight’s toughness, but like the rest of us, MWP has no idea what Knight’s natural position is:

    “He’s a small guy,” World Peace said after finishing with eight points and nine rebounds in the win. “(Knight) was trying his hardest to keep me off him. He worked hard, man. That kid, I don’t know where he’s from, I don’t know what school he went to, because he was guarding me and I was crashing the boards. He’s a tough kid, man. He tried to keep me off the glass and he did a good job. That’s all I can say. He’s a tough kid, very great. He’s a tough point guard or shooting guard or whatever he is.” 

  • Feb 4, 201310:00 am
    by tarsier

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    So Drummond has been an unthinkably bad 5-26 from the line over the last 8 games. It’s not so many lost points per game that it’s really hurting the Pistons. But it’s been killing many a fantasy team, I’m sure.

  • Feb 4, 201310:14 am
    by Derek

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    Metta World Artest is clueless on a ton of things, BK7′s position is just one of those things.  lol.  BK7 not only tried to keep him off the glass, he succeeded in doing so.  That is probably why Ron Peace grabbed him by the back of his head and punched him on the chin.  That’s a good way to intimidate a smaller player.  It didn’t work.

  • Feb 4, 20131:28 pm
    by inigo montoya

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    I think one of the biggest reasons, among possible others, for not playing Drummond and Monroe for extended minutes is rebounding and defense. 

    The defense and rebounding of a 2nd unit of Maxiell, CV, Jerebco, Stuckey and Bynum probably would be suspect.

    This might change after the trade deadline if the Pistons have a roster spot available and sign Ben Wallace for the rest of the season. 

    • Feb 4, 20132:04 pm
      by G

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      Uh, you don’t keep a good player on the bench so the second unit plays better. You start him & play the second unit as little as possible (see Heat, Miami for examples)

  • Feb 4, 20131:46 pm
    by Mark

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    To I Hate Frank
    My point in comparing Evans to Stuckey is that there is little pressure on Evans. He is a scorer not a shooter. He has the green light to shoot on a team which is going nowhere. Their styles are similar and I was using the term 2.0 as a descriptor of someone with a similar style of play(even a slight upgrade). He too is a combo guard albeit younger and perhaps a higher ceiling. if he were signed as a free agent, Stuckey would have to go because they both need the ball in their hands to be effective.
    Thanks for the detailed answer you gabe to my statement.  

    • Feb 4, 20132:22 pm
      by G

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      What do you mean by saying he’s “a scorer not a shooter”? Do you mean they’re both inefficient scorers, or that they both do most of their scoring inside? Tyreke finishes at the rim at a much higher rate than Stuckey (Tyreke connects on 57% of his shots at the rim, Stuckey gets only 46%), and he takes fewer threes than Stuckey does (this is a good thing).

      Stuckey already has to go. I’m not crazy about Evans’ game but I wouldn’t be all that upset if we got him. The reason why Stuckey doesn’t work isn’t his style of play so much as it’s just Stuckey isn’t that good.

  • Feb 4, 20134:28 pm
    by G

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    Anyone have an idea why Monroe wasn’t on the floor for an offensive possession at the end? Frank kept putting him out there for rebounding on the foul shots & then pulled him for Charlie V on the offensive end.

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