Comments on: Pistons stand pat at NBA trade deadline

By: frankie d

frankie d — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:27:58 +0000

sorry, but houston has done exactly what i’ve described and they’ve done it pretty well. in fact they are still doing it pretty well, as witnessed by the fact that they just stole thomas robinson from sactown for a bunch of young guys they accumulated over the last few years, patterson, aldrich and toney. that is exactly the kind of transaction i’m talking about. will robinson be a much better player than patterson? i’d bet that he will, that he just needs the right situation. and even if he doesn’t, some team will gladly take a chance on a guy with his obvious upside. he’ll probably still keep his trade appeal for another year or so, regardless of what he does in houston.
was lin overpaid? maybe, but maybe not. he basically signed for the same money that stuckey signed for, but houston structured the contract beautifully. he’s going to get paid almost 15 million that last year, so if he’s great, he will only be slightly overpaid. no matter what he does, however, he’ll have lots of trade appeal because he will provide huge cap relief for a team that may want to take him on.
lamb? exactly what i’ve advocated. get young guys, package them and get the players – young one’s like harden – that you target. the reason that houston was able to do that harden trade was because of all of the young talent and assets they’d accumulated.
it seems to be something that joe d just doesn’t understand.
houston clearly has a plan and they are implementing it. i doubt that joe d has a real plan. if he has one, it isn’t clear and hasn’t been clear for years. the only folks who haven’t acknowledged that are sports media suck ups who are still in love with the joe dumars from 2003.

By: Huddy

Huddy — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:12:30 +0000

Houston is are not great examples for your point Frankie. Houston cleared cap space to over pay Jeremy Lin and to sign a big name free agent (what you are saying Joe shoudln’t be trying to do) in Harden, nothing subtle about those moves. They also traded Lamb who was a valuable young player another think you claim isn’t a trend. In addition Houston has done all kind of cap hoarding in an effort to be a player for Howard. We have been out of the 1-5 draft range for a while, which makes our situation a little more difficult than an OKC securing Durrant, Harden, Westbrook all within the top 5 (althought our Darko draft could be sighted it is only one year not 3 like OKC). We also don’t have a Kyrie Irving or Derrick Rose or Blake Griffin even as a single pick to build around. Basically I just think it is a little bit of a stretch to compare teams situations in this way. Being on the bubble of being very bad doesn’t give a team like the pistons many options to build on. I agree that we should be cautious this summer, but I’m hopeful that we will make some quality moves.

By: Huddy

Huddy — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:51:52 +0000

Stuckey could land John Wall? Charlie could bring us Gallinari? even in a post titled best case scenario you have to be high to think that is a real possibility.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:31:49 +0000

Why does everyone seem to think that expiring contracts have such great value? They don’t. An overpaid player on an expiring deal is just less bad than an overpaid player on a non-expiring deal.

And if Dumars will give up a first rounder to get out of one year of a $12M/yr deal, why do you think he would take back even a slightly bad contract to get an asset attached to it?

Do not count on the Pistons getting anything out of expiring contracts. They’re not that big a deal. And Joe doesn’t know how to use them.

By: I HATE FRANK

I HATE FRANK — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:15:38 +0000

in a straight up trades situation Stuckey probably has more value than Charlie because he’s be only 27 years old, and can still provide instant offense and he’s a little more versatile…during the season players Stuckey could land would be Evan Turner , John Wall , Affalo, or Derozan

By: I HATE FRANK

I HATE FRANK — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:10:45 +0000

BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PISTONS: 2014 (all depends on how we spend in 2013)

Stuckey,Charlie and Slava have expiring contracts…. = over 18 mil

We could move them for a player like Eric Gordon, Kevin Love, whatever disgruntle NBA star player that no longer wants to be in their city any longer….

Maybe Charlie could land a player like Gallinari…….

Players we could pursue in Free-Agency…. Paul George, Eric Bledsoe, Rudy Gay….

By: G

Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:00:04 +0000

The rumor I heard about Bynum was for Eric Maynor & a pick. If they could’ve gotten Toronto’s 1st rounder from OKC, I’d say go for it. Unfortunately that was probably the sticking point, and Joe D let it slide. There’s not much point in acquiring 2nd round picks on this team, what they need is TALENT, not another Jerbko/Singler/English etc., which is about the most you can hope for in the 2nd round.

By: G

Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:47:38 +0000

Right, except none of those deals were happening. I think if the Pistons were to try and trade expiring contracts for talent, they’d end up with worse players than if they just tried the free agent market. Worst case scenario in free agency – they end up with the type of player they could’ve gotten in trade for Maggette & Maxiell’s expiring deals.

In short, the cap space is worth more.

By: G

Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:40:58 +0000

Pistons have no room under the luxury tax to ta

By: G

Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:36:09 +0000

We can’t afford to take on salary, we’re over the cap and JUST under the luxury tax line.