Comments on: Pistons play flat in loss to Knicks, but at least Jose Calderon looked solid http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Zach http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-119827 Zach Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:04:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-119827 Not if you run it right.... Fed up with Singler right now.  Not if you run it right…. Fed up with Singler right now. 

]]> By: I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118403 I HATE FRANK Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:07:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118403 4. True floor Generals are rare…but can Knight lead a team YES… I just think Frank has not handled him well, and once again he was given Knight, Knight might not be the guy he wanted or liked from the start. In the NFL new coaches come to a team, and they are given a QB they have to make it work, but they’d rather another type of QB 4. True floor Generals are rare…but can Knight lead a team YES… I just think Frank has not handled him well, and once again he was given Knight, Knight might not be the guy he wanted or liked from the start. In the NFL new coaches come to a team, and they are given a QB they have to make it work, but they’d rather another type of QB

]]> By: I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118395 I HATE FRANK Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:10 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118395 @ Big Rick. <strong>""Yeah, I guess that was pretty inflammatory earlier. My bad, no disrespect intended but I did call into question your basketball because it seems like you and others have blind loyalty to BK7. ""</strong> 1. its not blind loyalty to Knight, but we here in Detroit have too often given up on Young Good talent, all because they did produce the way we wanted as soon as we wanted. To mt Knight has become the underdor, and I do root for the underdog, and beyond that I will stick to my guns. He is a SCORING PG, with passing ability. If we wanted a PASS FIRST PG in that draft, it did not exist so you knew what you were getting...So blame management and coaching <strong>""I don’t view anyone on our roster as untouchable but maybe Drummond, but I  do like our young pieces. With that being said I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger if the price is right and it improves our team.""</strong> 2. I've been saying TRADE KNIGHT for the last week, not because I question his talent and ability but because this system is not built for a player like Like who needs the ball in his hand with a attacking system. Spotting knight up in the corner? some possession he doesnt even touch the ball? not allowing to defensively press his man?...its a waste of his skill-set <strong>""For the record I never said Calderon would make us an automatic playoff team. Games like last night are a reminder of where we’re at as a team. So I don’t have unrealistic expectations of us making the playoffs this year with or without Calderon. Is it possible yes. Probability…unlikely."" </strong> 3. I agree, I want us in but it wont be because of Calderon alone, Knight will have to turn into a legit 18-20ppg scorer,Monroe get more consistent, and Drummond has to be around 30 mins a game <strong>""I never said Knight was a bum, and believe it or not I’m a fan of his also. With that being said I’m critical of his play as well as the whole team. I guess Knight is the flavor of the month but I also critiqued Moose’s inconsistent play and non-presence on the defensive end of the court. It is what it is, he most likely won’t ever be a floor general, but he still has skill that is valuable to the team."" </strong> 4. True floor Generals are rare...but can Knight lead a team YES... I just think Frank has not handled him well, and once again he was given Knight, Knight might not be the guy he wanted or liked from the start. In the NFL new coaches come to a team, and they are arent given a QB and they have to make it work, but they'd rather another type of QB... <strong>""Same as Knight, I don’t see him as “point guard of the future”, but he does has skill and he has value. He just doesn’t run the offense well enough to maximize the value of PG on our team."" </strong> 5. Knight should be averaging 16-17ppg and 6-7 assist, earlier this year Knight scoring was up, when were playing more up tempo basketball running and pushing Novermber early december Knight was averaging 19-20ppg ...shooting a solid percent, around 5 ast.... (tarsier hates that stat).... <strong>""We have one of the best play makers in the league now in Calderon on our squad. So why not experiment with BK7 off the ball more. Maybe he can become more of a facilitator/distributor later on but we both we both know that is not his strong suit as of now. </strong> <strong>I hope he does become a scoring guard/point guard/combo guard/shooting guard etc. and is able to play his game and he becomes a multiple threat piece in our back court for years to come.""</strong> 6. im cool with Knight off the ball, like Monte ellis off the ball...Or Rip Hamilton or Ray Allen off the ball.... but you can not just spot him up in the corner, when he has the highest offensive skill set on the team We dont disagree on alot just see things slightly different @ Big Rick. “”Yeah, I guess that was pretty inflammatory earlier. My bad, no disrespect intended but I did call into question your basketball because it seems like you and others have blind loyalty to BK7. ”"

1. its not blind loyalty to Knight, but we here in Detroit have too often given up on Young Good talent, all because they did produce the way we wanted as soon as we wanted. To mt Knight has become the underdor, and I do root for the underdog, and beyond that I will stick to my guns. He is a SCORING PG, with passing ability. If we wanted a PASS FIRST PG in that draft, it did not exist so you knew what you were getting…So blame management and coaching

“”I don’t view anyone on our roster as untouchable but maybe Drummond, but I  do like our young pieces. With that being said I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger if the price is right and it improves our team.”"

2. I’ve been saying TRADE KNIGHT for the last week, not because I question his talent and ability but because this system is not built for a player like Like who needs the ball in his hand with a attacking system. Spotting knight up in the corner? some possession he doesnt even touch the ball? not allowing to defensively press his man?…its a waste of his skill-set

“”For the record I never said Calderon would make us an automatic playoff team. Games like last night are a reminder of where we’re at as a team. So I don’t have unrealistic expectations of us making the playoffs this year with or without Calderon. Is it possible yes. Probability…unlikely.”"

3. I agree, I want us in but it wont be because of Calderon alone, Knight will have to turn into a legit 18-20ppg scorer,Monroe get more consistent, and Drummond has to be around 30 mins a game

“”I never said Knight was a bum, and believe it or not I’m a fan of his also. With that being said I’m critical of his play as well as the whole team. I guess Knight is the flavor of the month but I also critiqued Moose’s inconsistent play and non-presence on the defensive end of the court. It is what it is, he most likely won’t ever be a floor general, but he still has skill that is valuable to the team.”"

4. True floor Generals are rare…but can Knight lead a team YES… I just think Frank has not handled him well, and once again he was given Knight, Knight might not be the guy he wanted or liked from the start. In the NFL new coaches come to a team, and they are arent given a QB and they have to make it work, but they’d rather another type of QB…

“”Same as Knight, I don’t see him as “point guard of the future”, but he does has skill and he has value. He just doesn’t run the offense well enough to maximize the value of PG on our team.”"

5. Knight should be averaging 16-17ppg and 6-7 assist, earlier this year Knight scoring was up, when were playing more up tempo basketball running and pushing Novermber early december Knight was averaging 19-20ppg …shooting a solid percent, around 5 ast…. (tarsier hates that stat)….

“”We have one of the best play makers in the league now in Calderon on our squad. So why not experiment with BK7 off the ball more. Maybe he can become more of a facilitator/distributor later on but we both we both know that is not his strong suit as of now. 
I hope he does become a scoring guard/point guard/combo guard/shooting guard etc. and is able to play his game and he becomes a multiple threat piece in our back court for years to come.”"

6. im cool with Knight off the ball, like Monte ellis off the ball…Or Rip Hamilton or Ray Allen off the ball…. but you can not just spot him up in the corner, when he has the highest offensive skill set on the team

We dont disagree on alot just see things slightly different

]]> By: Big Rick http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118317 Big Rick Wed, 06 Feb 2013 01:09:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118317 @ I HATE FRANK. Yeah, I guess that was pretty inflammatory earlier. My bad, no disrespect intended but I did call into question your basketball because it seems like you and others have blind loyalty to BK7.  I don't view anyone on our roster as untouchable but maybe Drummond, but I  do like our young pieces. With that being said I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger if the price is right and it improves our team. For the record I never said Calderon would make us an automatic playoff team. Games like last night are a reminder of where we're at as a team. So I don't have unrealistic expectations of us making the playoffs this year with or without Calderon. Is it possible yes. Probability...unlikely. I never said Knight was a bum, and believe it or not I'm a fan of his also. With that being said I'm critical of his play as well as the whole team. I guess Knight is the flavor of the month but I also critiqued Moose's inconsistent play and non-presence on the defensive end of the court. It is what it is, he most likely won't ever be a floor general, but he still has skill that is valuable to the team. Same as Knight, I don't see him as "point guard of the future", but he does has skill and he has value. He just doesn't run the offense well enough to maximize the value of PG on our team. We have one of the best play makers in the league now in Calderon on our squad. So why not experiment with BK7 off the ball more. Maybe he can become more of a facilitator/distributor later on but we both we both know that is not his strong suit as of now.  I hope he does become a scoring guard/point guard/combo guard/shooting guard etc. and is able to play his game and he becomes a multiple threat piece in our back court for years to come. @ I HATE FRANK. Yeah, I guess that was pretty inflammatory earlier. My bad, no disrespect intended but I did call into question your basketball because it seems like you and others have blind loyalty to BK7. 
I don’t view anyone on our roster as untouchable but maybe Drummond, but I  do like our young pieces. With that being said I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger if the price is right and it improves our team.
For the record I never said Calderon would make us an automatic playoff team. Games like last night are a reminder of where we’re at as a team. So I don’t have unrealistic expectations of us making the playoffs this year with or without Calderon. Is it possible yes. Probability…unlikely.
I never said Knight was a bum, and believe it or not I’m a fan of his also. With that being said I’m critical of his play as well as the whole team. I guess Knight is the flavor of the month but I also critiqued Moose’s inconsistent play and non-presence on the defensive end of the court. It is what it is, he most likely won’t ever be a floor general, but he still has skill that is valuable to the team.
Same as Knight, I don’t see him as “point guard of the future”, but he does has skill and he has value. He just doesn’t run the offense well enough to maximize the value of PG on our team.
We have one of the best play makers in the league now in Calderon on our squad. So why not experiment with BK7 off the ball more. Maybe he can become more of a facilitator/distributor later on but we both we both know that is not his strong suit as of now. 
I hope he does become a scoring guard/point guard/combo guard/shooting guard etc. and is able to play his game and he becomes a multiple threat piece in our back court for years to come.

]]> By: Brian http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118295 Brian Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:59:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118295 Drummond was horrible on defense last night, and it did not appear to have anything to do with an injury. I think no one told him that Amare is right-handed, because he appeared surprised whenever Stoudamire went to his right (which was every time, I think!). The defensive game "plan" of leaving three point shooters open on such a great outside shooting team was clearly a coaching failure. Lawrence Frank must be an exceptional practice coach to keep his job, because he is a terrible game coach. He continuously fails to make in-game adjustments long after it is apparent that his strategies are not working. It may not have meant a win, but Detroit would have fared much better had they taken away the three point shot. Drummond was horrible on defense last night, and it did not appear to have anything to do with an injury. I think no one told him that Amare is right-handed, because he appeared surprised whenever Stoudamire went to his right (which was every time, I think!). The defensive game “plan” of leaving three point shooters open on such a great outside shooting team was clearly a coaching failure. Lawrence Frank must be an exceptional practice coach to keep his job, because he is a terrible game coach. He continuously fails to make in-game adjustments long after it is apparent that his strategies are not working. It may not have meant a win, but Detroit would have fared much better had they taken away the three point shot.

]]> By: Venice http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118293 Venice Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:35:38 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118293 Ive read an article where the Raptors considered him as the next Mcgrady so I kinda viewed him with the same skillset that TMAC has.How old is Derozan right now?I think if he is still young, he can still develop his shoot off the dribble skill.  Ive read an article where the Raptors considered him as the next Mcgrady so I kinda viewed him with the same skillset that TMAC has.How old is Derozan right now?I think if he is still young, he can still develop his shoot off the dribble skill. 

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118284 G Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:39:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118284 Damn, coulda sworn he was 6'6". Anyway, point is 6'3" isn't that short for a SG. Knight is 6'3", has a standing reach of 8' 2.5" and a max vert of 37.5". JJ Redick is 6'4", has a standing reach of 8'1.5" and a max vert of 33". Dwyane Wade is 6'4", has a standing reach of 8'6" and a max vert of 35". Yeah, there's a handful of guys that play the position at 6'6" or 6'7", but there's a majority that play it at 6'5" or under. Damn, coulda sworn he was 6’6″.

Anyway, point is 6’3″ isn’t that short for a SG. Knight is 6’3″, has a standing reach of 8′ 2.5″ and a max vert of 37.5″. JJ Redick is 6’4″, has a standing reach of 8’1.5″ and a max vert of 33″. Dwyane Wade is 6’4″, has a standing reach of 8’6″ and a max vert of 35″.

Yeah, there’s a handful of guys that play the position at 6’6″ or 6’7″, but there’s a majority that play it at 6’5″ or under.

]]> By: I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118282 I HATE FRANK Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:31:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118282 I want calderon to do well, I want to make a play-off push....Hell if knight can turn into Monte ellis ..i can accept him at SG... But the system has to change...the lack of movement is horrible..... Maybe having a more dedicated passer at PG...will allow Frank to let this offense play more free.... Imma saying until my face turn blue or fingers fall off from typing it... knight would be running the hell out of SG or PG defending him... might not say much about the team..be he is our best offensive player... so Frank needs to make sure he is comfortable...if Knight is a bust it sets this franchise back atleast 1-2 years.... if Knight is steady and good...then all we need is a SG/SF .... btw: Deshaun Thomas would be great for this offense...whoever get him is gonna get a steal late in the draft I want calderon to do well, I want to make a play-off push….Hell if knight can turn into Monte ellis ..i can accept him at SG…

But the system has to change…the lack of movement is horrible…..

Maybe having a more dedicated passer at PG…will allow Frank to let this offense play more free….

Imma saying until my face turn blue or fingers fall off from typing it… knight would be running the hell out of SG or PG defending him…

might not say much about the team..be he is our best offensive player… so Frank needs to make sure he is comfortable…if Knight is a bust it sets this franchise back atleast 1-2 years…. if Knight is steady and good…then all we need is a SG/SF ….

btw: Deshaun Thomas would be great for this offense…whoever get him is gonna get a steal late in the draft

]]> By: sebastian http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118272 sebastian Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:59:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118272 Yo, "G", Calderon is listed as 6'3". Yo, “G”, Calderon is listed as 6’3″.

]]> By: Arthur http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistons-play-flat-in-loss-to-knicks-but-at-least-jose-calderon-looked-solid/comment-page-1/#comment-118267 Arthur Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:44:16 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12653#comment-118267 today i met one of slava kravtsov former coaches in Donetsk, Ukraine. he was absolutely happy about slava's practice with pistons, and even garbage time in nba regular is priceless experience for kravtsov. he said that its good for slava to train with nba team. ima pistons fan and iI hope this young player will develop with the pistons, not with another nba team.  just a little more trust and he wil contribute. today i met one of slava kravtsov former coaches in Donetsk, Ukraine. he was absolutely happy about slava’s practice with pistons, and even garbage time in nba regular is priceless experience for kravtsov. he said that its good for slava to train with nba team. ima pistons fan and iI hope this young player will develop with the pistons, not with another nba team.  just a little more trust and he wil contribute.

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