Comments on: PistonPowered trade contest: Swing for the fences (results) http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sat, 25 May 2013 22:15:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: automate email http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-140433 automate email Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:12:58 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-140433 Im pretty impressed with your website here, I can have to bookmark this to take some concepts later : ) Im pretty impressed with your website here, I can have to bookmark this to take some concepts later : )

]]> By: Steve K http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121882 Steve K Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:04:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121882 I should also note, though, that I've seen a lot worse. That second trade is sorta reminiscent of the Sheed and Gasol trades that so clearly benefited one team. Those trades became real, so it is possible. Just not likely. I should also note, though, that I’ve seen a lot worse. That second trade is sorta reminiscent of the Sheed and Gasol trades that so clearly benefited one team. Those trades became real, so it is possible. Just not likely.

]]> By: Steve K http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121881 Steve K Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:03:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121881 Yeah, that second trade had Pistons' fan written all over it. I can't see Denver or Minny considering it. Yeah, that second trade had Pistons’ fan written all over it. I can’t see Denver or Minny considering it.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121878 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:54:10 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121878 <p>Haha, if they're trading because of Smith's surly personality, and they might be, I don't think replacing him with Blatche is the answer.</p> Haha, if they’re trading because of Smith’s surly personality, and they might be, I don’t think replacing him with Blatche is the answer.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121876 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:52:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121876 <p><strong>"What trade can I make to swing for the fences?"</strong> Plausibility has to be a factor, though. Trading Drummond, Monroe, Knight and Singler for LeBron James would be swinging for the fences, but Miami obviously wouldn't do that.  Aldridge has been an All-Star twice, been the best or second best player on a playoff team three times, is still only 27 and will make $14 and then $15 million over the next two seasons. Monroe is obviously a better value right now, but he's also due an extension that will very soon put his salary at least at Aldridge's level and possibly higher. He also didn't always look entirely comfortable as a No. 1 option on offense this season (until his more consistent play over the last eight weeks or so). Both players have strengths and weaknesses, but if you consider that their production will be fairly similar, both will be really expensive, both will complement Drummond well but one will only be signed for two years and the other will be signed at that rate for 4-6 ... that's at least a consideration, no? I mean, both Aldridge and Monroe are very good, All-Star level players, but I think you would agree that neither guy is necessarily a franchise cornerstone. Maybe a shorter term commitment to Aldridge would make more sense and give more flexibility in the near future? Again, I'm not saying they should definitely do that trade. But there are certainly decent reasons to consider it. </p> “What trade can I make to swing for the fences?”

Plausibility has to be a factor, though. Trading Drummond, Monroe, Knight and Singler for LeBron James would be swinging for the fences, but Miami obviously wouldn’t do that. 

Aldridge has been an All-Star twice, been the best or second best player on a playoff team three times, is still only 27 and will make $14 and then $15 million over the next two seasons. Monroe is obviously a better value right now, but he’s also due an extension that will very soon put his salary at least at Aldridge’s level and possibly higher. He also didn’t always look entirely comfortable as a No. 1 option on offense this season (until his more consistent play over the last eight weeks or so).

Both players have strengths and weaknesses, but if you consider that their production will be fairly similar, both will be really expensive, both will complement Drummond well but one will only be signed for two years and the other will be signed at that rate for 4-6 … that’s at least a consideration, no? I mean, both Aldridge and Monroe are very good, All-Star level players, but I think you would agree that neither guy is necessarily a franchise cornerstone. Maybe a shorter term commitment to Aldridge would make more sense and give more flexibility in the near future?

Again, I’m not saying they should definitely do that trade. But there are certainly decent reasons to consider it. 

]]> By: Vic http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121875 Vic Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:49:26 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121875 I agree with you.... But that's just aS dumb for Houston to give up all thatundervalued talent for JSmith so he can be a free agent, especially when they just drafted like 5 super talented pFs. Though they might do it to get Dwight Howard to switch. Good luck with that. Atl is trading for personality reasons not basketball reasons so If they're going to get anything they need to get an undervalued PF to interview like Blatche or a draft pick.  I agree with you….
But that’s just aS dumb for Houston to give up all thatundervalued talent for JSmith so he can be a free agent, especially when they just drafted like 5 super talented pFs. Though they might do it to get Dwight Howard to switch. Good luck with that.

Atl is trading for personality reasons not basketball reasons so If they’re going to get anything they need to get an undervalued PF to interview like Blatche or a draft pick. 

]]> By: Waulie http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121871 Waulie Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:39:30 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121871 See, I though the point was: <strong>Dumars: I’m worried we’re heading toward the treadmill of mediocrity. This season is already a lost cause, but I believe we the pieces to make a major splash right now. What trade can I make to swing for the fences? I’m willing to accept a sizable amount of risk as long as the upside is high. </strong>What exactly is the upside with the winning trade?  You are trading two young players with lots of room for improvement and an unprotected pick for a very highly paid vet who is not likely to improve much at this point.  Oh, and one of the young players with lots of room for improvement you traded might ALREADY be better than the highly paid vet you got back. I don't believe there is any way the Pistons would "plausibly consider" this trade.  However, since we can't know what the Pistons would consider, shouldn't the winning trade at least be reasonable from a talent perspective or benefit the Pistons in anyway whatsoever?  See, I though the point was:

Dumars: I’m worried we’re heading toward the treadmill of mediocrity. This season is already a lost cause, but I believe we the pieces to make a major splash right now. What trade can I make to swing for the fences? I’m willing to accept a sizable amount of risk as long as the upside is high.

What exactly is the upside with the winning trade?  You are trading two young players with lots of room for improvement and an unprotected pick for a very highly paid vet who is not likely to improve much at this point.  Oh, and one of the young players with lots of room for improvement you traded might ALREADY be better than the highly paid vet you got back.

I don’t believe there is any way the Pistons would “plausibly consider” this trade.  However, since we can’t know what the Pistons would consider, shouldn’t the winning trade at least be reasonable from a talent perspective or benefit the Pistons in anyway whatsoever? 

]]> By: Scott Carter http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121862 Scott Carter Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:11:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121862 Sorry to say I'm not familiar with the 3-on-3. That being said, for what it's worth, I'd love to contribute whatever I can. Been following the NBA(especially, obviously, my hometown Pistons) for over 20 years now. Will go to my grave with "Pistons" tattooed over the front of my heart(with "Tigers" tattooed over the back of it). Sorry to say I’m not familiar with the 3-on-3. That being said, for what it’s worth, I’d love to contribute whatever I can. Been following the NBA(especially, obviously, my hometown Pistons) for over 20 years now. Will go to my grave with “Pistons” tattooed over the front of my heart(with “Tigers” tattooed over the back of it).

]]> By: I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121858 I HATE FRANK Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:02:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121858 You guys should let Scott write for the next 3-0n-3 or call it 4 on 4 .... that would be cool...just my suggestion You guys should let Scott write for the next 3-0n-3 or call it 4 on 4 …. that would be cool…just my suggestion

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/02/pistonpowered-trade-contest-swing-for-the-fences-results/comment-page-1/#comment-121854 Patrick Hayes Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:51:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12953#comment-121854 <p>Atlanta allegedly asked Houston for Asik and Parsons for Smith. If that's roughly their asking price, there is no way they'd settle for a Maxiell/V or Maxiell/Maggette/Blatche consolation price.</p> Atlanta allegedly asked Houston for Asik and Parsons for Smith. If that’s roughly their asking price, there is no way they’d settle for a Maxiell/V or Maxiell/Maggette/Blatche consolation price.

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