Comments on: Charlie Villanueva says he’ll exercise $8.58 million player option

By: Huddy

Huddy — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:35:08 +0000

Our last championship team was a lot more complicated mix than many other winners you see n the NBA. It is a lot different to balance various skills like we had on the Pistons than it is to replace Kobe’s 2nd allstar or put together a wade/lebron/bosh garnett/allen/pierce combo. Detroit isn’t an attractive location and even our championship team didn’t have anyone who was THE guy on the team to build around so it doesn’t make sense to compare the GM job at the Pistons to the Lakers or the Celtics there are plenty of teams you could be a fan of that haven’t made it to a conference finals in your life time, so I think Joe deserves more of a break than he is given. I think he atleast deserves a chance to show us what he can do this summer now that we have the tools to do something big.

By: Huddy

Huddy — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:18:42 +0000

Definitely agree with giving him PT and seeing if he can prove his worth to other teams. Not sure we should start him since he might expose his lack of D too much, he produces well off the bench in targeted situations, but definitely needs more minutes as a showcase (especially with Drummond out). I don’t like the amnesty option because we already have a lot of cap room. I think holding on to Charlie V is a good way of making sure we don’t rush to spend everything this summer in case we can’t find all the right pieces. If we wait on charlie we have 8mil expiring for the next year or an attractive trade expiring trade piece, not to mention we don’t have to pay him to play somewhere else. I don’t know what all is in the works for the summer but just looking at the FA options I don’t want to toss 30 mil out this summer so I think we can wait on CV. worst case he keeps playing well of the bench but we can resign him at a reasonable amount.

By: rick

rick — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:07:21 +0000

So much hate for Joe when he won a title w/o suprestars. Im laughing all the way to the bank with that comment. Please name me these other teams that have rebuilt on the fly and contnually win. I am mad jus like the next but this is blasphemous. The Charlie V comment is funny as hell also. Lets see dude was injured 2nd yyear and played hurt, then his third year was a 66game season, on top of the coaching situation and all I hear is bitching and moaning about 8.5million contract when it’s dudes getting way more than that and not doing shit. Yll act like Joe maxed his ass out on a deal. Get over it. Whats done is done, but to say hes overrated as a Gm is hilarious. I guess it was all Tom Hammond,right,lol. Too funny this board sometimes. Oh how we forget only 3 teams from the east have won a title in the last ten years and folks bitching. Wow, I hate to be a fan anyplace else.

By: SPENCER

SPENCER — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:35:16 +0000

I’m of the opinion that Joe Dumars has been one of the most overrated GMs in the NBA. Nothing personal(I admired and respected Joe as a player)but I see other successful franchises that have won championships and lost talent via attrition, age, and free agency and were able to rebuild to a contending status in less time than the Pistons. This deal with Charlie is a prime example of misjudged talent and misspent salary cap money.

By: Corey

Corey — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:20:37 +0000

Empty cap space to accept a contract into would be MUCH more valuable than CV as a trade chip next year. A team who wants under the luxury cap in a “current year” trade doesn’t even want an expiring contract back. If we can’t get good deals on free agents this summer, rut would be very good to have some room under the cap during the next season.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:59:14 +0000

CV had a good half season. a classic salary drive by a player looking for a new contract, and joe d fell for it.
anyone who watched his career from uconn to toronto to milwaukee knew what kind of bum he was. joe d was one of the few people who got seduced by his half season salary drive.
joe d is the fool.
CV is laughing all the way to the bank.
who can begrudge a guy for taking the money and running? is it his fault that joe d was an idiot?

By: tarsier

tarsier — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:00:33 +0000

Because an expiring contract is far inferior trade bait to open cap room. And because he is not useful.

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:22:06 +0000

I agree 100%. Up his value and then move him. We need to get something out of signing his dumb ass and having to watch him suck for all these years.

By: Ryank

Ryank — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:21:36 +0000

His expiring contract will be worth something this summer and into next season before the trade deadline. I think they’ll be able to trade him for an asset at the deadline next season. That means he’s going to cost about $5 million dollars to keep on the books for next year and we will get something out of it.

The only way you amnesty him is if we need the cap space for some other player this summer.

Oh, and Charlie V…no I wouldn’t leave that money on the table…I would have been the post player the team needed these last few years…rebounding, playing with my back to the basket, and defending the rim.

By: Lorenzo

Lorenzo — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:48:17 +0000

I agree at this point it’s probably best to just hang on to him. The only reason you amnesty him is if his salary ends up being a road block to to a game changing free agent signing….which is unlikely.