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Brandon Knight sends a message to Kyrie Irving or Jose Calderon in win over Cavs

With the Pistons acquiring a proven, pure point guard in Jose Calderon this week, it’s easy to draw a conclusion that the performance Friday (20 points and 10 assists with just one turnover) of their incumbent point guard, Brandon Knight, may have been a message that he is not ready to relinquish the position just yet.

That very well could be the case, but let’s not forget that Knight has had some of his best games as a pro when matched up with Kyrie Irving, a rival point guard from his high school class, his lone season of college basketball and his draft class. In fact, Knight plays far better against Cleveland than any team in the league. He averaged 23 points per game on 60 percent shooting with 5.2 assists and just 2.2 turnovers per game in six career games against the Cavs coming into tonight.

It’s hard to say if his outstanding game tonight was a response to sudden competition for his position or him heightening his game to play against a rival player he’s always done pretty well against. Either way, it was welcome and hopefully something that Knight can build on.

* Note – I also am giving Calderon an A tonight just for that shot of him taking notes in a legal pad on the sidelines. He’s already among my favorite players for that. Do the Pistons coaches even take notes during the game? I have a great feeling about how much he’s going to help this team improve.

Cleveland Cavaliers 99 FinalRecap | Box Score 117 Detroit Pistons
Jason Maxiell, PF 23 MIN | 4-8 FG | 1-2 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | +16Maxiell played OK, although he wasn’t particularly good against Tristan Thompson.
Greg Monroe, C 36 MIN | 7-16 FG | 4-8 FT | 16 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 18 PTS | +21Monroe didn’t shoot the ball all that well most of the game, but he was a monster on the glass and he only turned it over once. Monroe also made some great, precision passes all game long.
Rodney Stuckey, PG 35 MIN | 5-8 FG | 4-4 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 14 PTS | +20Stuckey only attempted one 3-pointer and, predictably, he shot very well as a result of that. It’s not a difficult concept with him. When his shot selection is better and he passes up those 3-point looks, he’s a much better player.
Brandon Knight, PG 32 MIN | 7-14 FG | 4-6 FT | 6 REB | 10 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 20 PTS | +30Knight’s stat line is even more impressive when you consider he did it in just 32 minutes. It was a great game, but I’m done getting excited about one good performance here and there from Knight. His challenge is consistency, and until he can find it, he’ll continue to be a below average starting guard. Tonight gave a great glimpse as to why people are so high on his talent though.
Kyle Singler, SG 37 MIN | 9-17 FG | 1-2 FT | 8 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 3 BLK | 2 TO | 20 PTS | +17Singler looks to be settling into that small forward spot quite nicely. Not only did he rebound and defend well tonight, he also showed a quicker than expected first step, frequently beating his man off the dribble.
Jonas Jerebko, PF 6 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -1Jerebko’s opportunity to earn his way back into the rotation isn’t going well. He rushed shots, didn’t look comfortable and didn’t make the customary hustle plays that have made him so valuable his previous seasons in Detroit. He just doesn’t look like the same player he was last year or as a rookie.
Charlie Villanueva, PF 18 MIN | 3-5 FG | 3-8 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 4 BLK | 1 TO | 10 PTS | +4The Pistons blocked 11 shots tonight, and Andre Drummond only had one of them. Your new rim protecting presence, ladies and gentleman, is Charlie Villanueva. He and Drummond are the next Sampson-Olajuwon.
Khris Middleton, SF 1 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +2Middleton made the most of his one minute of action, making a shot. Hard to do much positive or negative in one minute, so he gets a C.
Andre Drummond, C 18 MIN | 4-4 FG | 1-5 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 9 PTS | -9Drummond was quiet (by his standards at least) tonight, but with the performance of Detroit’s starters, they didn’t need a monster game out of him. He dunked, he blocked, he rebounded, so basically, what we’ve come to expect from him every time he touches the court.
Viacheslav Kravtsov, C 1 MIN | 0-0 FG | 2-2 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +4Hey, he made two free throws! That’s a decent accomplishment for a guy who would be the worst free throw shooter on the team if not for Drummond.
Will Bynum, PG 16 MIN | 4-5 FG | 3-6 FT | 0 REB | 8 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 11 PTS | -9Speaking of players who might be leery of Mr. Calderon’s presence … Bynum was fantastic off the bench. Detroit’s point guards combined for 16 assists and three turnovers tonight. Amazingly, after years of needing point guards who are careful with the ball and look to set up others, all it took was bringing one to town who actually tries to do those things to get the team’s incumbent point guards to play that way.
Kim English, SG 16 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -5English played OK defense and I respect that he helped on the glass even though his shot wasn’t falling, but he’s yet to do much in his couple of games auditioning in extended minutes.
Lawrence FrankI can give a pass for not playing Drummond as much tonight considering the Pistons had a comfortable lead most of the way and there were a lot of other players playing well. The Pistons bounced back from two consecutive poor efforts, played good defense, played great offense and got a home win over a bad team that they absolutely had to get.

74 Comments

  • Feb 1, 201310:20 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Gentlemen…. Introducing Brandon Knight …..

    Pushing the ball, Creating space, and finding the open man …Assist number because guys where making open shots…

    PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT!  A+

    and his defense was on point! 

    • Feb 1, 201310:32 pm
      by gmehl

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      Does this mean your going to change you PP handle (jokes). Hey him getting 20/10 is great but what i thought was more impressive was that Irving who had 11pts in the 1st quarter only had 3pts the rest of the game. I also thought CV had a solid game apart from his free throw shooting which really the whole team was terrible at. Speaking of Knight who was that dunk that he had but was waived away because of Stuckey’s offensive foul. I screamed like a girl at the top of my lungs when he got up there and threw it down and was so disappointed when it was taken away.

      On a side note i really feel that these double figure leads we have been getting will be maintained and the games won when Calderon suits up for us. I loved who we pushed the ball tonight and i hope Jose does the same when he is runnin g the show.

      • Feb 1, 201310:47 pm
        by I HATE FRANK

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        nah frank is a horrible coach….some of these changes could have been made

    • Feb 1, 201310:48 pm
      by tarsier

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      10 assists were great. But the best part of his game tonight: 1 TO.

      I don’t know if it was a one night fluke, the difference of no Prince in the lineup, or getting back to the Knight/Stuckey combo that worked so well at the end of last season. But more please…

      • Feb 2, 20139:23 am
        by I HATE FRANK

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        Prince would have been Perfect off the bench for us…but he likely was not willing to come off the bench

      • Feb 2, 20137:11 pm
        by swish22

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        Great to see the more up tempo Pistons without Prince. Jj lost a big step with that injury. He and his father have little to gripe about. He just hasn’t produced. Back to the bench soon it’s appears. BK just a kid still I’m surprised he catches so much grief. Great young core I’m becoming optimistic about the future. Go Pistons. If we could only trade I hate frank now for a blogger in the Italian league everything would be perfect.

    • Feb 1, 201311:37 pm
      by Javell

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      Thatss

  • Feb 1, 201310:25 pm
    by jprime18

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    Knight just needs to pretend every point guard in the NBA is Kyrie Irving

    • Feb 1, 201310:27 pm
      by Vic

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      Lol

    • Feb 2, 20134:39 am
      by MrCarter

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      Something tells me that won’t work too well against Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul. ijs

      • Feb 2, 201311:58 am
        by Scott Free

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        Very little works against the likes of Russell Westbrook or Chris Paul.

  • Feb 1, 201310:26 pm
    by Vic

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    Knight always plays well against his contemporaries. Good thing we got Calderon to show him or motivate him on doing it consistently.

    Kyle looked good in his natural position too.

    Love the pace of the team up & down the floor with no hesitation.

    Thats what shaking up the nest can do, now let’s see who can keep flying and who crashes and burns when this schedule toughens up.. 

  • Feb 1, 201310:29 pm
    by David

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    Wonder how much having Singler at the 3 instead of Prince played into his performance. Part of which I mean that having Prince on the floor acted as a kind of veteran safety blanket to Knight. I feel like Frank has told BK that when in doubt go to the isolayshaun. Without that to fall back to, Knight had to actually, you know, run the offense and make smart plays and be aggressive.

     

  • Feb 1, 201310:29 pm
    by ryan

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    If we’re going to play faster that is going to play into Brandon Knight’s hands beautifully. This may be the hidden asset of moving Tayshaun Prince who for all his skills was not a guy who liked the fast paced game.

    I like that Knight looked to score early and allowed that to open up passing options as the game went on. I think he can be effective at point guard by forcing the defense to play him as a scorer a little more.

    Also that throw down he had that was waved off was a beauty.

  • Feb 1, 201310:32 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Patrick or whoever can disagree…but Prince was holding back this team…Singler is finally home at the SF spot… even was more aggressive …. And im not gonna get into what trading Prince does for Knight in that locker room… 

    • Feb 1, 201310:38 pm
      by gmehl

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      Yeah the only player Prince is still holding back is Daye but that is not our problem any more :-)

    • Feb 1, 201311:16 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      I’m not saying he wasn’t holding the team back. I’m saying that he was still better than the guys behind him. As long as he was on the roster, he was the team’s best SF. That doesn’t mean I thought he should’ve been on the roster. Since he was here, though, Frank had no choice but to play him since Daye, Jerebko, etc. never came close to showing they could produce as consistently as him. That’s on the GM, not the coach. On a rebuilding team, a GM has to take that decision out of a coach’s hands. If you want the young players to play and develop, then take away the veterans who are better than them so a coach won’t be tempted to play them instead.

      • Feb 1, 201311:22 pm
        by tarsier

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        +1

        • Feb 2, 201312:32 am
          by Scott Free

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          ^ ditto.  

          • Feb 2, 201310:15 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            True I get it… but I dont know He out played Jonas last year…in Minute Production

            11-12 Jonas –  http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jerebjo01.html

            11-12 Prince –  http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html

            So yeah I get it, but Prince based on Production should have lost his starting spot last year….and its not Prince fault that our coach favored him, him his leadership (sarcasm)

            10-11 Daye –  http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dayeau01.html

            You can even argue Daye Production by min was better than Prince, back in 2010-2011 …Kuester started reward Daye…then all of the sudden the locker room became divided…. Now its not Prince fault their was a lockout the following year, its not Prince fault Daye decided to play for Turkey and got sick, and its not Prince fault Daye didnt come back able to claim his spot…

            But in 3 consecutive years…if you include Singler… based on Production by min… Prince was not the best option at SF…. Im not including whatever intangibles people wanna say Prince had….

          • Feb 2, 201312:40 pm
            by tarsier

            If you’re a coach trying to win games, what are you going to do? Play the SF who is arguably playing the best year after year after year or play the SF who is arguably playing the best right now?

            After all, none of these guys clearly outplayed Prince. At best, you could make a case that they were doing so. And none of them kept it up for long enough to take this out of Joe’s hands.

        • Feb 2, 20134:19 pm
          by I HATE FRANK

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          Daye is a stretch…Jonas is not…and his starting productions backs it…however the past is the Past…if Singler turns into a solid 3 option…who doesnt need to slow the the offense to get him going…then he was clearly the better option…. 

          Like i said… its comes down to who a coach feel comfortable with, 11 years ago we were begging for Tay to replace Curry…..

           

      • Feb 2, 201311:45 am
        by James Jones

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        This!
         
        To people it’s one game, if Knight and Singler can do this over the next few games then we can talk.
         

      • Feb 2, 20133:17 pm
        by Quin

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        Isn’t that the kind of thinking that causes teams to lose games? I mostly agree that the GM should shape what the coach has to work with. But .. Joe D did claim, at least, that lineup decisions belonged to Frank. So, Frank has to figure out how to win. What some of these comments are saying, which I agree with, is that more games could be won with Prince out of the starting lineup. You know, the old “the whole is greater than the sum of its parts” kind of argument.

  • Feb 1, 201310:33 pm
    by Herman Neutic

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    Wow! It’s like somebody turned a light on. Addition by subtraction?

  • Feb 1, 201310:33 pm
    by Mark

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    Knight’s problem has been consistency. Remember this is Cleveland. 

    • Feb 2, 20132:27 am
      by T Casey

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      Good point. I had to tell myself that too. While it’s great that the team played so well behind Knight and Monroe, which seems to be the trend (when they play well together the team does well), we were playing a struggling Cleveland team. The game Sunday, I believe it’s vs the Heat, should be a good guage of where this team is truly at.

      • Feb 2, 20134:46 am
        by MrCarter

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        We host the Lakers on Sunday. Should be a pretty good test despite LA’s ugly season so far.

  • Feb 1, 201310:37 pm
    by Mark

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    Getting another PG to challenge Knight for his job is exactly what he needed. He was given the job from Day 1 and got too comfortable I think. This is going to work out great I think.

  • Feb 1, 201310:38 pm
    by Mark

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    Prince had a great night for MEM too. 14 pts on 7-11 FG, incl 8 pts in the 4th and 2 clutch baskets at the end. One of which a shot clock buzzer beater

    • Feb 1, 201310:43 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      they play slow grind it out perfect fit for him

    • Feb 2, 201312:00 pm
      by Scott Free

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      Thats good to hear,  I honestly want the best for Aday and Tayshaun.  Btw, why did no one make the obvious headline:  Gay, Tay, Daye and Jose trade. 

  • Feb 1, 201310:43 pm
    by tarsier

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    Now THAT is the Stuckey/Knight combo I remember from the end of last season. Calderon in the fold or not, I hope they get a few more tries to see if they can maintain their production when playing together. Their skillsets are just so darn complimentary. Yeah, both are at their best with the ball in their hands. But neither is exactly an extreme usage guy.

  • Feb 1, 201310:52 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    just give night the A + sheesh! smh

    • Feb 1, 201310:54 pm
      by tarsier

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      hey, we agree, it can happen once in a blue moon

      *high five

  • Feb 1, 201310:53 pm
    by tarsier

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    Come on Patrick. How could 20-6-10 on good shooting with two steals and a block to only one TO and while shutting down Irving not get Knight an A+?

    I’m pretty sure this was the best and most complete game of his career. That should be rewarded, even if only with a totally meaningless grade on a blog.

    • Feb 1, 201310:54 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      I haven’t given any player an A+ all season and unless the Pistons have a trade in the works for LeBron James, I won’t be giving one the rest of the season either.

      • Feb 1, 201310:59 pm
        by tarsier

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        Ok, in that case, I can accept it. But Dan has given A+s so if he had graded this, it would be unacceptable for Knight not to receive one.

        • Feb 1, 201311:03 pm
          by Patrick Hayes

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          Knight was absolutely fantastic tonight. Isn’t it a little annoying that he only plays like that against Irving though? I mean, if you can do that to Irving offensively and defensively, you should be able to do it against any guard in the league, right?

          • Feb 1, 201311:10 pm
            by tarsier

            It would seems so. Maybe Knight is the counter argument to my insistence that the idea of NBA players needing “extra motivation” is just narrative written after the fact (since we could find some “additional motivation” in almost any game).

            Remember when Langlois would insist that the same was true with Stuckey and Westbrook? 

          • Feb 1, 201311:13 pm
            by Patrick Hayes

            YUP. The worst was when he suggested Stuckey felt like he was snubbed from the Olympic team because Westbrook made it and apparently (if that’s true) in Stuckey’s mind, all it takes to be an Olympian is having a few good games against someone who is vaguely similar to you physically.

            Blaha and Kelser kept harping on the Irving/Knight comparison tonight. It was driving me crazy. Irving is already a top threeish PG in the league, and they are acting like Knight is right on the cusp of that too just because he’s had a handful of really good games vs. Irving. Drives me crazy. 

          • Feb 1, 201311:20 pm
            by tarsier

            I feel like there are honestly some people out there who believe you can tell who is the better player between two guys just by their head-to-heads. 

          • Feb 2, 201312:02 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            im cool with it Patrick atleast you somewhat got a system…but if one of our a players puts up Lebron , Durant, Paul ect…type stats even for a single game an A+ should be considered especially IF we get the win…

            Knight 10 ast and 1 turnover should get an “A” all by itself… thrown in 20 pts…2 stls 1blk….6rebs…Chris Paul like even if for a single game
             

          • Feb 2, 201312:13 am
            by tarsier

            They may be good CP3-esque numbers, but it certainly wouldn’t be anything special for him. I can see Patrick’s point that an A+ would be reserved for historically special nights. Heck, if James put up these numbers, it would be a below average game for him.

        • Feb 2, 201311:03 am
          by Crispus

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          What if Drummond gets a triple-double with blocks and makes all his free throws in a Pistons win over the Thunder?

      • Feb 1, 201311:05 pm
        by Stuckey and Whoever

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        ESPN/NBA Front Page – IS Drummond the next SHAQ?

        • Feb 1, 201311:24 pm
          by gmehl

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          I’ve said before and i’ll say it again ‘i hate player comparisons’. I am sure Drummond wouldn’t want the added pressure of being compared to one of the top 5 centre’s of all time. Shaq was dropping 20+ppg with 10+rpg in his rookie year. Drummond is going to be good but so let just see if he can also become great without saying he is the next Shaq or Howard. He might just become the first Drummond.

          • Feb 2, 20131:54 am
            by tarsier

            Yeah, there’s a large group of fans who dislike player comparisons. And an even larger group who like them. What’s your point? If players can’t handle being compared to other, better players, they are all screwed. Because it happens to basically everyone who shows any promise at all. And somehow, good players keep churning out–almost as if the comparisons don’t matter. I hate the terms “clutch”, “heart”, “true PG”, and don’t particularly care for “glue guy” or most player nicknames.

            But all these things are here to stay, because they are of value to some people. 

        • Feb 2, 201312:20 am
          by Mark

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          Anybody with Insider care to post what they said about Drummond?

          • Feb 2, 201311:06 am
            by Crispus

            *Gasp* You are going to cause the ESPolice to raid the PistonPowered offices.

  • Feb 1, 201311:25 pm
    by kevin

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    In the 1st official game (not counting game vs Pacers) with no Prince we saw Singler move to his natural SF spot and put up career high 20 points and Knight didn’t fall victim to Tayshaun pump fakes and had 10 assist.

    • Feb 2, 201312:15 am
      by tarsier

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      “In the 1st official game (not counting game vs Pacers)”

      So, in other words, the second official game. Just so we’re all clear on that. 

  • Feb 1, 201311:44 pm
    by Javell

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    Bknight and jose gonna be good long as bknignt can keep transition buckets and assist…ill let jose handle our half court offense…even though i felt like bk7 could have all season…. But like i said old tayshaun was wayyy passed his prime! Now we must insert drummond in the starting line up… And i think frank is preparing him by giving more pt with knight and monroe….

  • Feb 2, 201312:13 am
    by haydzz

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    How does stuckey get an A- for just 14 points and pretty much nothing else and Monroe has an 18 and 16 game and gets the same grade?? haha 

    • Feb 2, 201312:23 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Well, Stuckey played fantastic defense and shot well. Those are both significant contributions.

      Monroe actually didn’t shoot well most of the game. He missed some easy ones early, and he was actually just 5 for 14 shooting until he made two easy shots late in the fourth just before Frank emptied the bench.

  • Feb 2, 201312:32 am
    by sloppy joe

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    Andre “Too Tall” Drummond
    LOL he’s not even that tall…
    sure does play pretty big though. 

  • Feb 2, 201312:39 am
    by haydzz

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    Fair enough I still think Monroe played much better. He shot 7 of 16 which isnt great by his standards but isnt that just under 50% not too bad. Fair enough Stuckey didnt do much wrong but he didnt do as much as Monroe thats why I wouldve given Stuckey a B

  • Feb 2, 20131:09 am
    by Jodi Jezz

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    Good overall win tonight Pistons…

  • Feb 2, 20132:11 am
    by Pratik

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    Nice to see Tayshaun Prince do well in Memphis tonight, and all three teams part of the trade won big. Already impressed with Calderon, taking notes on the bench! Can’t wait, really hope he plays Sunday but looks like he won’t until after the weekend. 

    As much as I wanted Jonas back in the rotation, he doesn’t look comfortable in the 3 spot, we need to develop Middleton and put him in the rotation behind Singler. He can shoot and has great length for that spot. Jonas has to return being a stretch 4 with Andre at Center. CV is playing well, but I’d rather see Jonas get his confidence back and return to that spot, where he has been most effective.

    Overall good game but again it was the Cavs, will be interesting to see if the same energy and effort is going to be visible against the Lakers. Really hope Jose is in the lineup against Steve Nash, would be fun to watch. Not sure what is going to happen with Stuckey and Will Bynum though if Knight starts at the 2, and Singler continues to play well at the 3. Frank did suggest Stuckey will play some at the 3, which could mean that he wants Bynum to run the bench. I really think Stuckey’s time is over with the Pistons, he played good in the 2nd half, but in the 1st half he wasn’t involved with the rest of the team on both the offensive and defensive side as a starter. Would rather play Kim English in the backcourt with Bynum and Middleton at the 3, Jonas at the 4, and Jason Maxiel at the 5 for the bench. But looks like Dre won’t be starting anytime soon, or else he would have today. Kobe is going to torch Knight if Calderon plays on Sunday. So it does become important for Dre to start. COME ON FRANKKKK, make some changes.

  • Feb 2, 20132:47 am
    by Anthony

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    One thing that I noticed is that the Pistons are now playing at that fast pace that our young players want to run at. Tayshaun was drafted to a decent playoff team whose best players were in their prime so the half court offensive pace was the norm for them but this group of guys are young and trying to find their identity so just let them run. Over the past couple of weeks the bench have been the only exciting players on the team but the starters were the ones that were making the game interesting in this game and part of that is because of no boring isolayshauns

    • Feb 2, 20132:50 am
      by Anthony

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      BK7 also looked interested and was having fun the entire game. I’m sure that having a good game was part of it but I also think that just knowing that a trade was made and that he can now experiment as being a pure shooter has BK in a good mood now.

  • Feb 2, 20133:08 am
    by T Casey

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    I don’t wanna get too high on the victory tonight seeing as it was against a struggling Cleveland team. But, I’ve been noticing some good signs that the team currently that might go a long way if the guys continue to develop their games and gel as a team.

    First is the flexibility our front line provides. They both have the size to play down low and hold their own on either end, but they also have the speed and quickness to finish on the break or even at times get steals on the perimeter and take the ball coast to coast. That kind of versatility is pretty rare for both of a franchise’s cornerstone bigs.

    Second, and this one will depend heavily on Monroe’s and Drummond’s continued development, Atm, we have two guys who seem to be comfortable taking the ball down on the block and getting points in Stuckey and Monroe. If Monroe can improve his post game more and become a more consistent scoring threat and Drummond can develop a bit of a one on one game in the offseason, that would give us 3 players in our starting lineup who can post up and get points and create shots for others. Sounds simple, but that kind of variety can keep defenses on their heels.

    Third, with Singler’s shooting and Monroe and Knight developing their shots, we could end up with 3 or 4 guys in the starting lineup who can shoot from mid range respectably well.

    Fourth, everyone in the starting lineup seems to be able to pass pretty well and the entire team seems to love setting each other up for baskets.

    Versatility and unselfishness like that across the board is an important part of what made the ’04 team an the Bad Boys so great. Even without a single dominant scorer, they wound up havng some of the most sound offenses in the league because so many players were threats to score and make plays from so many different areas on the court that defenses had no choice but to pick their poison and live with the results. Basically they were greater than the sum of their parts. Now, obviously all that could just be a pipe dream and I’m not saying this core will end up being as great as those past Piston teams, but at least as a fan the picture is beginning to get clearer as to what success for this team will look like down the road if things develop along the right path. The past few years, I don’t think that’s been the case with some of the rosters we’ve had thrown out there. That’s an exciting development if you ask me.

  • Feb 2, 20136:28 am
    by Derek

    Reply

    I like that Brandon steps up against Kyrie, but I’m equally frustrated when he doesn’t give the same torment to every other pg in the league.  Right now there’s a selective brilliance to his game.  He steps up to the Kyries, Lillards, and Jennings (last Bucks game notwithstanding) of the league.  Then he gets perplexed by matchups with other 1s.

    The pairing and mentoring by Calderon is going to do wonders for BK7.  The move to SG just might slow the game down for him and give him a huge boost in confidence.  It seems to clear to every analysis peering into this trade that our offensive efficiency should improve greatly with Calderon running things.  The great fear is what we will look like on the defensive side of the ball.

    I envision a lot of zone defense.  Calderon is a defensive liability in one on one sets.  This could be masked if we went with zone.  I’m excited about what the trade means going forward, namely relative to the development of BK7.  I’m also excited about what this means for Drummond & Moose.  I expect significant statistical boosts from both of them.  Finally I’m hopeful about what this means for our chances to get someone like Josh Smith.  A Drummond & Smith pairing makes up for Moose’s defense and makes us even more exciting.

    So, I’m trying to remain optimistic while remembering the summer of 2009 and every other personnel related mistake we’ve made.  It’s a process.

  • Feb 2, 20136:31 am
    by Derek

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    Oh and uh…

    Brandon Knight 20 pts 10 ast 1 TO and shut down D on a top 3 PG = A+

    I hope he scores an A+ in his PG classes with Calderon.  Time to go to school!  Put their lockers together.  Go to Spain with the dude and workout.  Whatever you need to do to get “it”.

  • Feb 2, 20136:51 am
    by Venice

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    I can’t really get used to seeing Prince in other uniform.Its like Paul Pierce in lakers uniform. It’s just doesn’t feel right. But I’m happy that we traded him an we can finally start the next chapter of Detroit Basketball!!

  • Feb 2, 20138:13 am
    by apa8ren9

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    I am again a happy Pistons fan.  I like the way Knight responds to challenges.  As others have noted now he just needs to work on consistency from game to game.  I also noticed tonight that his decisions on the break and decisions on the pick and roll with monroe at the top of the key were much cleaner.   It was night and day from the Milwaukee game.  I do have to temper my enthusiasm just a bit because cleveland really quit halfway through the 4th quarter when they kept fouling the pistons on like 3-4 straight possessions ( Pistons didnt really discourage the Cavs by missing most of them). That kinda sucked the life out of the game at the end and everybody just wanted to go home.   But Knight definitely has the potential to play like this every game.  I really believe Calderon will bring out the consistency we need as a team until Brandon can get that part of his game up to par.  Hell we may even see an above .500 stretch over ten games this year.

  • Feb 2, 20138:41 am
    by M Boyd

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    I believe that part of the reason that Knight played so well was because Prince not being on the team anymore.  Every time Knighy came up the court in the past he would pass to Prince who would slow things down, and/or hold the ball to long preventing Knight from getting the assist. I think Jose will be good because he is a true point and he will teach Knight. 

    Does anyone else believe that Prince was a major factor in holding Knight from playing well and running the offence?

    • Feb 2, 201310:43 am
      by T Casey

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      I thought that was a problem too. The same thing happened a lot when Stuckey came in the game off the bench. Personally, I think it was more of a coaching thing than Prince. Some other Piston fan said that Prince may have been more of a safety net for Knight and that may be true.  So without him there to facilitate, Knight has to step up and keep things moving because he can’t just defer to the veteran.

  • Feb 2, 20139:26 am
    by Corey

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    I didn’t get to watch this game, but I think not having prince on the floor probably helped BK’s performance. When prince gets the ball, BK is out of that possession, in generaNow for this game, O had to run through BK or Monroe. And having Singler to pass to (who takes quick shots leading to assists) instead of prince helps too.

  • Feb 2, 201310:00 am
    by Mark

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    I have a feeling that Stuckey and Maxiell will not be moved by the deadline. Looking in my crystal ball Dumars should sign JJ Hickson. I think he is a free agent this year. He is a solid power forward. 

    • Feb 2, 201311:13 am
      by Crispus

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      We should have just kidnapped Marreese Speights and thrown him on the team bus and left Jason Maxiell while he was using the bathroom. That’s mean I know, but Max is the second to last crusty veteran causing Joe D and Frank to act irrationally and lose games.

      • Feb 2, 201312:56 pm
        by frankie d

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        speights is exactly the kind of young player who can be acquired by teams that have cap space flexibility and/or who are willing to take on salary.
        twice – from philly and now from memphis – he’s been moved because of that reason. 
        he’s a solid young player who, imho, just needs to land in the right spot in order to establish his niche.
        guys like that are always out there if a team can take on his salary.
        hopefully, joe d will understand that new way of acquiring young players and leave cap space available in order to steal young players like that.
        regarding knight…it appears that being in proximity to irving just sparks a part of his brain that lies dormant otherwise.
        when i first saw those two matched up during either preseason or summer league, knight torched irving.  i was convinced that detroit had stolen the better player.  
        boy, was i wrong.  
        but what this indicates to me, more than anything, is that knight’s issues are entirely mental.  
        is he capable of overcoming those hurdles?
        who knows…but for a guy who is supposedly so freaking smart, he seems to be exceptionally lazy mentally…
        unless he is trying to prove a point to the league about irving. 

  • Feb 2, 20131:58 pm
    by Piston Moribund

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    I am quite ambivalent about these kinds of wins simply because it is not a good measure of effort or progress.  Its just a win against an awful Cavs team which means the team is at the top tier of the last third of the NBA.  It like being the best JV team, maybe not even that.  Being that best lottery team is still more advantageous then being an eighth seed.  The difference is not great, we get to keep a pick for next year and there is a slight chance, however remote, of getting the top pick.  Losing is still the best way forward, how ironic.  
    Win or lose, this team is certainly more exciting to watch, if only in anticipation of the hope for the future. 
    Cant wait for the Jose chants at the palace.  Too bad there are only four people in the stands.

  • Feb 2, 20132:50 pm
    by Jay

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    I just wanted to point out that all three teams part of the trade won by double digits

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