Comments on: Shooting guard Brandon Knight scores career-high 31 in Pistons’ win over Magic

By: G

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:56:17 +0000

Sorry, that yes was for drafting Burke. Knight isn’t a PG, they just play him there.

By: unkabin

unkabin — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:57:11 +0000

Yes, yes, yes. Thank you.

By: oats

oats — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:01:29 +0000

First off you’ve argued in this thread that Frank is keeping Knight “on a short leash” and complained about him not getting up enough shots. You’ve agreed that Knight has not been assertive enough, and complained that he doesn’t have the ball in his hands. Then here you complained Frank is running an old offense and pointed out NJ’s offense minus Kidd. So, while I may have referenced something you didn’t say in that exact comment I replied to, it was all said by you in this thread. I can’t put it next to one comment since you’ve been making your point in a scatter shot approach over several comments (which I’m fine with as long as you don’t expect me to make my argument in the same manner). I chose the last one and the one where your argument falls off the rails the most, by blaming Knight’s style of play on Frank and pointing out NJ post Kidd. Seriously, Devin Harris was crazy aggressive and shot 15 times a game. Harris played pretty close to how you wish Knight would play, although Harris has a game built a little bit more around a drive and dish style of play while Knight is a bit more of a jump shooter. Still, the only change from Harris to what you ask from Knight is that Knight incorporate a few more 3 point attempts than Harris did, especially since you argue Knight can create those looks for himself. If Knight isn’t playing that way it isn’t because Frank’s offense prevents that. I’m just not buying the whole Knight hasn’t been allowed to play his game argument. It doesn’t hold up. Knight is trying to do something that isn’t natural to him, but there is no evidence that that is Frank’s fault as Frank has allowed other players to play like how you want Knight playing.

I should add that I’m not buying into the Harris was in the league longer argument. Your complaint was about Frank’s offense, I pointed out that Frank’s offense doesn’t work the way you claim. Harris being more accomplished is irrelevant to that point. Frank’s offense still is not what you claim it is.

Nothing else you said was in any way related to what I said. I said you are putting all the blame for Knight playing in a manner you think doesn’t suit him on Frank when Knight should get a heavy dose of that blame. This isn’t the same thing you blame me for doing. I paraphrased arguments you’ve made through out the thread, you are attacking arguments I never made. That was such an egregious straw man that I think I’ll just leave it at that.

By: I HATE FRANK

I HATE FRANK — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:28:48 +0000

“”I’m not fond of Frank and don’t really want to defend him, but you are just wrong and your example is the proof of it. Harris took 15 shots a game and put up 21.3 points while under Frank’s leadership, and yet you claim Frank prevents his point guards from shooting while referencing NJ. It was ’08-’09 if you are wondering, Frank’s last full season in NJ before rightfully being dismissed the next season after his horrendous 0-19 start.”"

…Devin Harris was in his 4th or 5th years in the league he was already established…and I didnt say he prevents his PG from scoring…I said the offense is predictable…. and I also said he is not using Knight correctly…

and you dont want to blame Frank thats fine…

Knight has been allowed to play his game
Monroe did not take the step forward many of us hoped for
Stuckey has regressed

The only players actually playing better are Bynum,Charlie, and Austin… off the bench… so if that acceptable for you more power to you

OH and we are 9-10 games under .500,

By: Jayknowsball

Jayknowsball — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:08:26 +0000

Y’all are placing the blame in the wrong direction …we really need prince and maxiell coming off the bench if not I say trade them

By: normcash7

normcash7 — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:26:54 +0000

Drummond deserved his F. 22 year old Vucevic and Davis took Drummond apart on the boards. Andre really needs to develop an offensive game.

By: normcash7

normcash7 — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:24:00 +0000

I love Brandon Knight. Just turned 21 in December. He is gonna be a very good point and a very good shooting guard.

By: oats

oats — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:51:54 +0000

Frank did have Devin Harris play at an All Star level, a level Harris hasn’t been at since leaving NJ. I should also point out that he let Devin Harris take 15 shots a game. I don’t think Knight’s being forced not to shoot while playing the point, I just don’t buy that Frank completely forgot that it is a good idea to let your scorers shoot. I suspect you are putting too much blame on Frank instead of admitting that Knight should get some of the blame. Maybe Frank should do more to push Knight to be more aggressive, but that isn’t the same as preventing him from playing his game.

I’m not fond of Frank and don’t really want to defend him, but you are just wrong and your example is the proof of it. Harris took 15 shots a game and put up 21.3 points while under Frank’s leadership, and yet you claim Frank prevents his point guards from shooting while referencing NJ. It was ’08-’09 if you are wondering, Frank’s last full season in NJ before rightfully being dismissed the next season after his horrendous 0-19 start.

By: gmehl

gmehl — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:19:22 +0000

Also when English came in Reddick was already on fire and everything he was throwing up was going in. It didn’t matter who was guarding him.

By: Nick N

Nick N — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:09:55 +0000

Preach to the church bro lol. I been watching the same thing just about every game. Knight is a PG