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Pistons trade Tayshaun Prince, Austin Daye for Jose Calderon

The details are finalized. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

Pistons sending Tayshaun Prince onto Memphis for Jose Calderon to complete 3-way deal with Toronto, sources tell Y!

Austin Daye will go to Memphis as part of package with Prince, sources tell Y! Sports. No draft picks.

No draft picks? Awesome, awesome, awesome.

Obviously, we’ll have much more analysis coming, but I’m very excited already.

Update: Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News:

Deal is official league approved

108 Comments

  • Jan 30, 20137:45 pm
    by tarsier

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    Well, Lowry’s fantasy value just skyrocketed.

  • Jan 30, 20137:45 pm
    by Big Rick

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    Anyone with any further insight on the potential agreed upon trade PLEASE post a link when they put out that it’s finalized. Thanks. 

  • Jan 30, 20137:47 pm
    by normcash7

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    Assuming we keep our 1st and 2nd round picks and sign them, we will have about 39 million committed in payroll come July. If Joe wants Calderon that would cost 9 million per (just a guess) taking the payroll to 48 million. Still room to sign one more good player after that.  Josh Smith? Who knows what Joe wants to do.

    • Jan 30, 20137:59 pm
      by tarsier

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      No way Calderon should cost $9M/yr. He’ll be 32 years old when next season starts. And he’s overpaid right now.

  • Jan 30, 20137:50 pm
    by Big Rick

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    It’s funny cuz I have both Lowry and Calderon on the same fantasy team and I was real close to cutting Lowry this morning but then I thought….
    “Hmmm, maybe I should hold off because someone is about to get traded.” Kept em both, now they just need to announce the deal as FINALIZED!!!

  • Jan 30, 20138:00 pm
    by bugsygod

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    Everyone should remember to begin looking at high salary teams, who are paying the luxury tax.  These are the teams that will be looking to dump salary so they don’t pay the more harsh luxury tax.  Also teams that are in mid to small markets may be looking to dump salary.  Trades will be the Best way to make these moves.  So sign an trade deals etc.  Direct signings will be more of the mid to low level types.  The 2 & 3 should be are targets.  Drummond & Monroe will obviously both be max players, so keep that in mind as far as future salary/payroll. 
    *
    Again my wish list Milsap 10ml, Mayo10ml, calderon6mil, reddick 6mil.
    *
    Next out the door will be??  stuckey still has value? cv has built some value and will be an 8mil exp contract? Knight, where does he fit now?

    • Jan 30, 20138:03 pm
      by tarsier

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      CV isn’t an expiring contract for anyone other than Detroit. It makes no sense to trade him because nobody will take him without attached assets.

      • Jan 30, 20138:28 pm
        by bugsygod

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        CV after this season has one year on the contract.  So in 3 months its an expiring contract for everyone. 

        • Jan 30, 20138:49 pm
          by tarsier

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          And even at that point, having open cap room is more valuable than a bad expiring deal.

        • Jan 30, 20138:51 pm
          by tarsier

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          Expiring deals in themselves have no value. Their worth comes from their being less bad than a long-term bad contract.

    • Jan 30, 20138:06 pm
      by tarsier

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      I wouldn’t mind having Reddick. But he is worth $4M tops.

  • Jan 30, 20138:07 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    lol Frank rotation still sucks

    and his play call seem horrible without isotay 

    • Jan 30, 20138:41 pm
      by Anthony

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      I’ll actually cut Frank a bit of slack. He had to make a quick adjustment to the team because of the trade. I say wait till friday when we vs the Cavs to fully evaluate his “new” lineup

      • Jan 30, 20139:03 pm
        by apa8ren9

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        LOL there are no such things as adjustments with Frank in games. 

  • Jan 30, 20138:20 pm
    by bugsygod

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    Trade Grades:
    A ~ Memphis: they got a young PF who has been playing well and was recently named on espn as one of the top 25 under 25 players.  Got a good vet sf in prince, playoff warrior and still a very smart player.  This was the excellence of the trade for memphis, yes you lose some scoring but with prince returning to a 4th/5th option role now, that 12-13pts per game is going to be great for them.  Can see this really helping memphis.  Daye if he can hit some shots for them, maybe a team in the summer gives him a chance. 
    B+ ~ Detroit: with calderon add a true pass first pg/playmaker that should thrive with the bigs in detroit.  This should help in their playoff push with boston losing rondo and only philly in front of detroit.  Toronto could be a threat here as well.  Our backcourt will have some size disadvantages as well with knight/calderon.  Calderon’s expiring deal helps Detroit as well for the future giving them another 10+mil in cap space this Summer.  I think this puts detroit at about 33mil in space for the summer.  USE IT WISELY JOE DUMARS.  If they amnesty CV thats another 7mil.  Only negative for me is we didnt get mybe a 2nd rd pick back or something more.  
    C — ~ Toronto: good for toronto to get a high caliber starting sf.  Gay is just at the level behind camello, who is a notch below lebron/durant.  So Gay should have matchup advantage most nights.  I dont like Toronto giving up ed davis as part of this, because not only is he a good young player, but he is producing right now.  His defense will be missed and i think will weaken the raptors there.  The raptors are now forced to start and play lowry heavy minutes at pg, which the coach has been reluctant to do as calderon had beat him out.  Not sure if this helps or hurts their offense.  

    • Jan 30, 20138:53 pm
      by tarsier

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      The trade gives Detroit about $7.5M more cap space this summer. It’s irrelevant how big Claderon’s deal is. The payroll commitment removed was Prince’s.

  • Jan 30, 20138:24 pm
    by Big Rick

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    I concur Mr. I Hate Frank, head scratching rotations. We have a brutal schedule ahead and little time for our different lineups to get acclimated. 10 games in the next 16 days. We better pounce in Cleveland Friday cuz it won’t get much easier than that anytime soon. 

  • Jan 30, 20138:32 pm
    by Oracle

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    Given the main purpose of this trade is cap space, (although a pass first point guard always helps,) can the PistonPowered crew compile a list of all the free agents that will/may be available this summer?  I love the trade, but I’m worried it will be like when we accumulated all of the cap space only to find no worthy FAs, and blew it all on CV/BG/Wilcox,

    • Jan 30, 20139:03 pm
      by tarsier

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      Millsap may be the best possibility.

      • Jan 30, 20139:07 pm
        by apa8ren9

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        I believe he is the best option as well  because I dont think you will have to overpay to get him.  That in itself is a win if the Pistons get him cause he can play big minutes on the nights that Monroe or Drummond are off and still keep you in the game as a superior upgrade to any of our bench bigs.

  • Jan 30, 20138:49 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    PLEASE TRADE KNIGHT!!!!!!!

    if you are not going to allow him to score and play his game….its point less to have him 

    • Jan 30, 20138:57 pm
      by tarsier

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      Again, who is not allowing him to score or play his game? Tonight, that would primarily be the Indiana defense. Frank draws up and calls who takes the shot on very few possessions per game.

      • Jan 30, 20139:21 pm
        by I HATE FRANK

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        Im saying Trade him…

        To take the ball out of his hand, and make him a spot up shooter is stupid…its not productive….

        I’d rather just move him and get the spot up 3 point shooter you want…Knight is alot like JR Smith, he needs the Green Light at all times… 

        • Jan 30, 20139:27 pm
          by tarsier

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          I follow what you’re saying. What I’m asking is why do you think he doesn’t have it?

          • Jan 30, 201310:03 pm
            by I HATE FRANK

            this offense and this coach does not fit his style of play…at this point im not even blaming Frank…im saying you have a scoring PG…he is not Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, or whatever PG that just spots up…

            He needs the ball in his hand to score…not to set the offense and not to play slow…

            Frank style of play will be great for Calderon….

             

  • Jan 30, 20138:57 pm
    by apa8ren9

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    I heard this went down on the radio on the way home and I was very happy this happened.  There are no sacred cows.   I have been a defender of Prince but I am not sad to see him go.  We needed a shakeup in the worst way.  It puts everyone on notice, including Frank.  Everybody has to do better and if you dont you are outta here.  I still dont expect us to make the playoffs because we arent very good but I like the way we are paring down the roster and salary.  We have lots of space and will be able to make deals like this as we purge ourselves from Bynum Magette, CV and Maxiell.   Today was a good day!

  • Jan 30, 20138:59 pm
    by apa8ren9

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    Im excited to go to the games again.  I was really pissed after last nights effort against Milwaukee.  But now I cant wait till Friday against Cleveland.  Im not even paying attention to tonight’s game.  Nothing is going to kill my buzz about this trade tonight

  • Jan 30, 20139:08 pm
    by Shaun

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    Get Josh Smith him and Drummond!!! Oh boi. Trade Knight that wont allow he to play his game and miss shots.. Jk. Monroe come off the bench, get rid of CV, get Redick and Big Ben. Then playoffs

  • Jan 30, 20139:11 pm
    by Shaun

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    9 assist tonight team, Brandon Knight must be playing his game

  • Jan 30, 20139:13 pm
    by Shaun

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    Joe D is a legend, where is all the haters!!! Act like you know..

    • Jan 30, 20139:29 pm
      by tarsier

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      What the heck are you trying to say here? I still don’t think Dumars should be GM. But this was a good move. First one in a long time. Nice to see.

  • Jan 30, 20139:14 pm
    by Pratik

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    Rodney Stuckey for Nick Young

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ah9pa7t 

    it works and would add another expiring contract 

  • Jan 30, 20139:15 pm
    by Slap Dog Hoops

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    Finally the Pistons have a legit PG in Calderon.  Good trade for the Pistons.  Daye was not doing anything for the team and Tayshaun was holding the team back from moving forward in the rebuilding period.    

  • Jan 30, 20139:21 pm
    by Pratik

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    Rodney Stuckey to Portland where perhaps he can have a new start and will be closer to home (I think) for Wesley Matthews (SG): http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c7yfc77

    • Jan 30, 20139:28 pm
      by tarsier

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      Yeah, Matthews has been really good in Portland. No way they accept that.

      • Jan 30, 201310:38 pm
        by frankie d

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        lol.
        why on earth would portland trade matthews for stuckey.
        matthews is a solid vet, a good defender and a good shooter.  he’s hit a bunch of clutch shots the last two years.  and he is relatively cheap, considering what he does.
        stuckey is …stuckey.  i like him, but trading for him in that deal would be crazy. 

  • Jan 30, 201310:07 pm
    by Lorenzo

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    It’s a good salary dump, Prince just doesn’t fit where the roster is going. Calderon will be a decent rental for the rest of the year….though he is not going to lead to a 180 as far this year is concerned; the team likely still isn’t going to make the playoffs. The real value of this trade will be assessed based upon how the potential salary cap space will be used this summer, or indeed in another trade; who ends up on the roster starting next year will be a great indicator of this transactions’ value. 

  • Jan 30, 201310:52 pm
    by Mark

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    Finally, a reasonable trade. Let’s hope Stuckey’s next

  • Jan 31, 201312:58 am
    by frankie d

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    in retrospect, how bad does joe’s non-trade of tay a couple of years ago look?
    back then, he could have gotten caron butler’s 10 million, plus expiring contract and a first round draft choice.
    now, he trades tay and a former first rounder for that 9.7 million dollar expiring contract.  and nothing else.
    shoulda pulled the trigger back then. 

  • Jan 31, 20132:20 am
    by Serge Geara

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    am i the only one who is emotional about this.. albeit it being a great basketball trade?

  • Jan 31, 20138:05 am
    by B. Garcia

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    I think bringing Big Ben back would be great. Vet minimum, and keep him around for practice to teach our big men how to fight and give maximum effort. Ben Wallace is the PERFECT person for Drummond to be around, nobody better to learn from (effort wise) that Big Ben (my favorite piston ever) Obviously Calderon is not here to stay, but like some have mentioned he has a big expiring contract. I think the next thing for us to do now is amnesty Unk Chuck (even though I like his effort this year) he is being paid starter money for bench worthy performance. We will see how B. Knight does with the SG position to finish the year and if he thrives we can use our cap to sign a good PG if hes awful either continue him at the PG and sign a SG or possibly package B. Knight with Maxiell for one of the 2 guard positions we dont fill with free agency. HOWS THIS SOUND FELLERS!!!?

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