Comments on: Pistons reserves beat Pistons starters

By: frankie d

frankie d — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:23:55 +0000

joe doesn’t believe that teams need a real “PG”.
he’s stated that view plenty of times and his actions totally confirm that he believes that.

By: Crispus

Crispus — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:43:35 +0000

Can’t we still just grab Scott Machado for free!? I know he’s not a proven vet but he’s one of the best pure passing rookies (he continued this trend in his D-league play) and just hasn’t had a fair shot anywhere yet. All we have to do is clear a roster spot and we can sign him to a gosh-darn 10-day contract and give him Bynum’s minutes to see how he works out.

By: Crispus

Crispus — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:38:20 +0000

That’s funny, I was watching some broadcast recently where a commentator was saying that D Williams is way shorter than listed.

By: Vic

Vic — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:54:06 +0000

The only place pgs take a long time to develop is Detroit and other places where pg talent is undervalued in favor of nonpg talents. Whatever talent a player has, the team that corrals it and uses it most effectively doesn’t have to wait at all for him to be effective at it.
The issue is that Knight has sg talent and he’s playing “pg”
Really they run the offense thru Greg and Tayshaun anyway.
Bk does best when he’s in a scorers mode, not pg mode.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:21:00 +0000

It is very rare for a lottery pick who isn’t pushing star status to be traded early on and fetch anywhere close to fair value.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:19:50 +0000

I’m entertained by people who were talking after this past draft about how the Pistons had had crazy luck in who had fallen to them in three straight drafts. As if Knight is anywhere close to the caliber of player that Monroe and Drummond are.

However, right now, I think Knight has more value from keeping him around and letting him continue to develop than he could fetch in trade.

I doubt Detroit could fetch a pick in the 10-15 range. And even if they could, an elite 3 point shooter who clearly has the tools to be a very good player in spite of being a question mark as to whether he’ll put it ll together is probably better than what could be expected from a draftee in that range.

Also, Detroit is set up to make a big splash in FA. And they have two excellent bigs. They should be on a serious upswing starting next season (kind of a blend of optimism and realism going on here). For those purposes, I’d rather have the guard two years further along in his development, all else being equal.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:09:48 +0000

what is truly ironic is that the second unit is exactly the kind of team joe d was trying to build when he signed BG and CV. he talked about the old 3 point shooting orlando team as an example of the way the league was moving.
he could still put that kind of team on the court as a starting unit, but he’d have to get rid of two of his guys: maxiell and tay, who really don’t fit that style of play. neither one moves the ball very well, and that is crucial for that type of offense.
the fact that frank starts the 5 guys he starts is a result of contracts, team politics and bad coaching.
again, it is truly funny and ironic that joe d’s vision of his future team is right there…coming off the bench.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:57:53 +0000

maynor would be a great fit here. if joe d had not spent all of his money on BG and CV years ago he may have been able to acquire him back when OKC stole him from utah?
(utah gave him away because OKC took on the bad contract of, i think, matt harpring.)
he would be exactly the kind of PG the team needs. only question is whether he’d be able to play with knight – assuming knight moves over into more of a SG role – because he is not the biggest guy.
but he would be a very solid player. he was very instrumental in OKC playoff run a couple of years ago, as he was the guy who came in, ran the offense and settled things down when/if things got a little ragged with the starting 5.

By: James Jones

James Jones — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:50:59 +0000

I don’t think you could get any of that for BK alone at this point. Not unless someone really feel in love with him.

By: James Jones

James Jones — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:49:25 +0000

As much as I hate the dumb turnovers BK makes i’m not ready to say he needs to be replaced yet. PGs can take a long time to develop, there are a lot that are awful the first 2 or 3 years and then finally turn the corner.

If something way better comes along by all means but I wouldn’t put the fork in BK yet. Give him this year and half of next year, if he still doesn’t get it by then send him on his way.

I said the same thing about Stuckey (who I can’t stand and was never a fan of) after about halfway through the 3rd season we should have dumped him or moved him to SG.