Comments on: Pistons’ reported interest in DeMarcus Cousins might be somewhat outdated

By: Worm

Worm — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:23:19 +0000

Cousins averages 0.6 blocks per game, same as Monroe. The notion that Cousins is a superior defender is a complete fallacy.

By: Max

Max — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:49:53 +0000

If the Pistons really want to trade Monroe, can’t they do a lot better than Cousins? If I’m trading Moose, I’m looking for at least an all star caliber scoring wing or even point guard. It is not like 15-20 points to go with 10 boards young bigs who do not miss time grow on trees. That said, it would be absurd not to give the Drummond/Monroe pairing a real shot.
Personally, I want no part of Cousins. The Rodman, Mahorn, Rasheed stuff is all fine and well and my favorite brand of basketball but those teams had real veteran leaders and hall of fame coaches and the NBA is increasingly policed.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:41:18 +0000

The fact that Drummond is 18th is definitely exciting. But PER is also a per possession number (kinda like per minute). Odds are his numbers wouldn’t hold up with a larger role. He is a very comparable case to Javale McGee, Andray Blatche, or Brandan Wright, who are 10th, 13th, and 20th in PER respectively and put up very similar numbers in near identical roles. Nobody else in the top 20 plays under 30 mpg or against primarily bench competition.

Still, Drummond is much more exciting than the other three just because he is already doing this as a rookie.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:30:28 +0000

From a PER perspective, yes. But still not all that much better. Basically, they have comparable talent (Cousins has a bit more) but Cousins is a head case. That could make it difficult to employ his talent effectively.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:27:45 +0000

Such a swap would be ok. But the Kings would have to throw in another significant asset. Their pick, top 5 protected, would qualify.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:26:04 +0000

Monroe may have been the consolation prize once upon a time (although not really because there was no realistic way Cousins would ever fall to 7, not that Monroe should have), but that was a couple years ago. Monroe is now the more valuable asset. Kinda like Durant was the consolation prize for not getting Oden.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:23:22 +0000

Allow me to introduce you to a little thing called FG%:

Monroe’s (career) is 51.7%
Cousins’ (career) is 43.5%

This fact is the primary reason why Monroe’s O rating is 111 to Cousins’ 98 (their D ratings are identical).

By: MNM

MNM — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:37:18 +0000

Well it’s not “false“.. and if these “issues” keep coming up with Cousins vs. SAC then the organization might not have much of a leg to stand on in expecting Detroit to give up more than just Monroe, IF and/or when talks happen..If they haven’t happened already. Monroe, compared against Bostons young bigs, is more developed, at least offensively (scoring, assists, offensive rebounding..sometimes.) And when you look at the contracts of Monroes vs. Cousins, they are similar. With Cousins making slightly more than Monroe because of where he was picked…
Your arguement with him having problems since high school, therefor it would be bad, doesn’t hold much water, providing the fact that it didn’t stop Dumars from wanting to trade up to get him and still hold interest in him today. They developed a good relationship before the draft. It has been documented by people who know more than you or me that Cousins then wanted to play here more than SAC and there was mutual interest from both sides. In the end, it’s being said without actually saying it, that Monroe was 2nd choice and a “consolation prize” for Dumars as much as many don’t want to believe it..like it or not.

By: Daye and Knight (Team Redemption)

Daye and Knight (Team Redemption) — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:10:24 +0000

From a PER perspective DMC>Moose

Side note Drummond is #18 in PER that’s crazy!

By: Bo

Bo — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:07:05 +0000

I respect what you said with little argument. But you only focused on one aspect of the trade. Jason Thompson and Isaiah Thomas would be huge improvements (in my mind…am I crazy?) over Jerebko and Bynum. I think what those two would bring balances out your Monroe/Cousins argument above.