Comments on: Piston of the Week: Austin Daye

By: Frankie d

Frankie d — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:19:30 +0000

That is exactly problem I have been talking about. frank doesn’t seem to have a clue about handling daye. Or he just doesn’t seem to care, which is curious considering that daye provides a needed skill: 3point shooting.

By: D. Stewart

D. Stewart — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:47:31 +0000

Hard to understand. Daye comes off of his best game of the season and Frank only plays him 11 minutes against the Bobcats. He takes one shot and that’s it. Nice job of rewarding the kid, Coach. Nice job of boosting his confidence by building on the momentum he had going. I swear, I’ll never understand coaches. Frank needs a hot outside shooter in last night’s game and Daye’s the hotest shooter on the planet right now, and yet 11 minutes is all he gives the kid. 11 minutes for the whole damn game. Don’t be surprised if Daye’s confidence slips right back into the crapper again. Sometimes I think Frank graduated from the Michael Curry School of Coaching.

By: Big Rick

Big Rick — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:45:18 +0000

We need a PG!!!

By: Mrshourite

Mrshourite — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:10:10 +0000

Disappointing loss!

By: frankie d

frankie d — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:30:44 +0000

what has singler ever done to merit the coach letting him play through and past his slump?
he’s a rookie.
daye had a decent rookie year and a year where he shot almost 41% from 3 point range on 172 shots.
that is certainly more than what singler had ever done in the nba.
yet, singler gets treated totally differently. instead of getting buried, he’s still going out there every day.
now, i think that the way that singler is being treated is the correct course.
i just don’t see how the organization could have let their first rounder be treated that way.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:07:50 +0000

But you see, Singler and Stuckey had slumps in which they played poorly. Daye played historically horrendously.

Number of games-wise, it may be similar. But when you are a player who has never been even 7th to 8th man caliber in the past, that’s its own matter.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:03:43 +0000

i think you are missing my essential point.
daye started the season off with a couple of 0-for games, then he had a decent game, then another stretch of 8 games that were bad to horrendous. a very tough dozen or so games at the beginning of the year. not much different than what stuckey went through. and it is definitely almost identical to what singler just went through just recently.
but the coach’s response was not to work with daye to try to get him out of the slump, but he instead buried him.
contrast that with how he handled singler recently.
singler stayed in the line up. he stayed in the rotation. and slowly he is getting back to his normal level of play and shooting.
my argument has been that the coach’s action made much worse what could have been a normal, though deep, shooting slump.
instead of it being the kind of slump any shooter goes through, albeit a bit deeper, but still normal, it became a season-long trauma because of the coach’s unwillingness to let him work through that slump.
and, yes, it became a horrible season long – you are right, it was not a slump and i was not referring to the entire season as a slump – trauma.
a different coach, a better coach, would have done some things to put him in a position to succeed and get out of the slump.
frank, by contrast, jerked him around, making worse what could have been a mild incident in his career.
i’ve always thought that shooters don’t forget how to shoot. they just don’t. it is usually the last skill to leave an nba player, if they are a good shooter.
but if a player goes through a weird, career-threatening period – and especially a young player – then a skill they have relied on their entire lives can go south on them.
and the one thing daye has always, always been able to do is shoot the basketball.

By: Stuckey and Whoever

Stuckey and Whoever — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 01:37:58 +0000

Great day to add Tay to my fantasy league. But seriously we should be killing these guys. D is horrible!!!

By: tarsier

tarsier — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 01:13:32 +0000

“was his slump last year any worse than the one stuckey went through at the beginning of this year?Was his slump any worse than the one singler just went through Over the course of a dozen games?”

Yes,it was!! That was the entire point of my comment. Daye last year was in no mere slump. He was historically awful. Rarely has any player ever performed at such a low level.

Besides, I don’t know of any other time a couple hundred shots have been referred to as a shooting slump. A slump is usually a couple dozen at most.

By: Frankie d

Frankie d — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:58:38 +0000

My problem has always been that you don’t bury a young player who is going through a slump. That is exactly what frank did to daye last year. daye started the season in a shooting slump and then got pulled from the regular rotation. He got one more real shot just mid season, had some good games, including a career game against Miami, but had several mediocre to bad games and from that point forward he was out of the rotation.
was his slump last year any worse than the one stuckey went through at the beginning of this year?Was his slump any worse than the one singler just went through Over the course of a dozen games?(daye never got anywhere near that kind of license or patience.
singler wasn’t shooting, he wasn’t scoring and he was getting torched on defense by guards who were just walking around him.
so exactly what was he bringing to the court?
yet, he got sent out there every game.
daye has always put up decent rebounding numbers. Even when he was not scoring. It is simply not true that he was not contributing anything except for shooting.
i have simply thought he deserved a chanc to fail or thrive based on a real chance, not a ridiculously short leash no other first rounder ever got around here in the last 5 years or so.