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Monroe does not Feer the Deer…

Essentials

  • Teams: Milwaukee Bucks (23-19) at Detroit Pistons (17-27)
  • Date: January 29, 2013
  • Time: 7:30 p.m.
  • Television: FSD

What to look for

Is Greg Monroe the new old Dwight Howard?

The question probably sounds ludicrous at first glance given that D12 has the chance to one day make the Hall of Fame, whereas Monroe is playing in his third NBA season and is still developing as a big man.

But if we look at his production against the Milwaukee Bucks so far this season, it would be hard not to take that comparison seriously.

Keep in mind, the former Hoya isn’t in the same athletic class as the former Magic player, but in terms of his impact on both ends of the court against the Bucks, he’s been the real deal.

In two games this season, the left-handed center has averaged 20 points, 10.5 rebounds and two assists on 54.8 percent field goal shooting; but more importantly he’s made life painfully difficult for Milwaukee.

Milwaukee likes to run their perimeter players off screens to create advantageous situations where they curl off screens for jump shots; but if the big man steps out to thwart their attempt, they’ll dish off the ball to the screener rolling to the basket for the easy deuce.

This type of action as well as the pick-and-roll are tough to run when the Georgetown product is on the court because he not only sniffs those plays but defends them quite well. Indeed, Monroe helps out on the screen by jumping out onto the would be shooter and then quickly recovering to his man, or simply finds the perfect balance in remaining in between both players as his teammate recovers from the screen to come pick up his man.

The end result is that the player coming off the screen must settle for a semi-contested jumper or pass it out to another player camped out at the 3-point line because the Pistons’ other defenders sagged off the perimeter shooters.

In addition, in the instances that the Pistons’ center has been late in his rotation, he’s recovered nicely by contesting the shot attempt at the rim because the Milwaukee player tried to get all the way to the basket. So far this season, Milwaukee has only converted 55.3 percent of their shot attempts directly at the rim when Monroe is on the court, per NBA.com’s advanced stats tool.

Monroe poses a conundrum for the Bucks: continue to attack him and take contested mid-range shots and attempt some difficult looks at the basket, or pass out to the perimeter for 3-point looks on a team devoid of true pure shooters.

Regardless of the strategy, it’s been difficult for Jim Boylan’s group this season against Detroit. NBA.com’s advanced stats tool tells us that when Monroe is on the bench, Milwaukee scores 112.3 points per 100 possessions, but when he is on the court, the figure nosedives to 89.2 points per 100 possessions.

In other words, Greg is the difference between the best and worst offense in the league for Milwaukee when matched up against Detroit.

On the other side of the ball, the third year big man has been just as terrorizing.

His assist numbers against Brandon Jennings and company may be low, but that’s a little deceiving. The Pistons have fed him the ball on the block and he’s found cutters, open shooters and even ran a few quick hand offs with his teammates that all led to high percentage shots as well as some scores. On a few occasions, his passes led to other players getting fouled, or helped set up an assist.

The reason he’s drawn so much attention from the opposing coaching staff is rather simple: they cannot stop him.

Whether it’s in the post, pick-and-roll or on the boards, Monroe has simply been able to get whatever shot he wants against Milwaukee.

Per NBA.com’s advanced stats tool, with Monroe on the court, Detroit scores 116.3 points per 100 possessions on 49.1 percent shooting, but with their prized big man lounging on the bench, the Pistons produce an anemic 83.6 points per 100 possessions on 38.3 percent field goal shooting.

No matter how you slice it, Greg Monroe is a game changer of the highest order whenever the Bucks are involved.

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61 Comments

  • Jan 29, 20136:44 pm
    by gmehl

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    Really would be a good game to start Drummond. Screw the deer…  I think Milwaukee needs to fear the beast.

    • Jan 29, 201310:11 pm
      by Will

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      Clearly “the beast” was nothing to fear.  Time to start thinking about rebuilding for next year…!
       

      • Jan 29, 201311:43 pm
        by gmehl

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        Clearly “the beast” played out of his skin. You can’t blame him that no one else showed up smart ass!

  • Jan 29, 20137:37 pm
    by Vince

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    Is this the first game we’re playing against Milwaukee and their new coach?

  • Jan 29, 20137:53 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Singler in the post should be part of our offense

  • Jan 29, 20138:10 pm
    by Ozzie-Moto

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    6 rebounds 4 points 1 steal and 1 block in  4 mini minutes,
      Thats a beast  ( Drummond )  
     

  • Jan 29, 20138:23 pm
    by sloppy joe

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    a double double in a bit over 10 minutes! is this a pistons record?

  • Jan 29, 20138:25 pm
    by Ozzie-Moto

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    Dru … at the 11 min playing time mark:   12 points 11 Rebounds 1 block 1 steal (1 PF)
    Funny i read one of the excuses for not starting Dru is that he have to watch his fouls for more minutes. One of his great skills is he can play great defense without fouling.

  • Jan 29, 20138:30 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    lol another blown 15 point lead….

  • Jan 29, 20138:37 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    folks that coaching

    • Jan 29, 20138:44 pm
      by Jinzzy

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      Frank always shoots himself on the foot . Why do keep on going to prince when none of his shots are falling. Shh

  • Jan 29, 20138:37 pm
    by Jopl

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    I don’t really understand how Milwaukee came back.  It seems like we were up by 10, Drummond was dominating and suddenly it’s halftime and the Bucks are up by 10.

    • Jan 29, 201310:12 pm
      by Will

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      Really?  You don’t see how?  How about Detroit sucks?

  • Jan 29, 20138:40 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    bynum, stuckey,daye, charlie…DID NOTHING!!!!!

    except turn the ball over, not defend, and not rebound 

  • Jan 29, 20138:47 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Knight needs too look for his shot…

    • Jan 29, 20139:02 pm
      by Vince

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      Knight needs to sit. He’s f*cking up the offense.

      • Jan 29, 20139:04 pm
        by I HATE FRANK

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        are you watching the game?

         

        • Jan 29, 20139:07 pm
          by Vince

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          I am. Sure he is knocking down the occasional shot but his TOs and ball handling are killing us!

  • Jan 29, 20138:59 pm
    by Jinzzy

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    Singler needs to go , he cant guard ellis

  • Jan 29, 20139:00 pm
    by Vince

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    This is getting embarrassing, why on earth is Max on the floor? Put Dre in! Dear god, Frank’s coaching is almost as good as a steaming pile of crap.

  • Jan 29, 20139:03 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    this is why we are not a play off team…

    soo much confusion with no idenity 

    • Jan 29, 20139:05 pm
      by Vince

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      No. We’re not a playoff team because we can’t hold on to leads, we can’t keep up defensive and offensive intensity, give up too many offensive rebounds, concede too many turnovers and our coach can’t coach for shit.

  • Jan 29, 20139:06 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    must be saving Drummond for when we are down 20

  • Jan 29, 20139:08 pm
    by Jinzzy

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    come on Frank ZONE Really !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan 29, 20139:08 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    GOOD NIGHT!

  • Jan 29, 20139:10 pm
    by Vince

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    I want Frank’s head. This is becoming ridiculous. Dre put up what might as well be the fastest double double in franchise history and he sits him when we’re getting torched. Maxiell ain’t doing shit, Singler and Prince’s shots aren’t falling. HE IS TOO DAMN SLOW TO READJUST. GOD DAMMIT FRANK. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.

    • Jan 29, 20139:11 pm
      by Vince

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      GOOD. He put Bynum and Dre in. FFS.

      • Jan 29, 20139:13 pm
        by Vince

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        Ain’t that something? Monroe and Dre work great together. Who would’ve guessed?

  • Jan 29, 20139:10 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    we can blame the player…all we want…say knight is not a pg…say Drummond is soft…say Singler is not a SG…whatver….we should not still be losing 15 pt leads…

    Frank is an fool…and his rotation choices and timing is horrible 

  • Jan 29, 20139:12 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    jenning is in a zone…

  • Jan 29, 20139:16 pm
    by gmehl

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    So let me get this straight. Drummond is having a career night and Frank sits him the majority of the 3rd quater in which Milwaukee hits 7 three pointers to blow this game wide open. I am starting to think that Frank has been instructed to only play Drummond 20mpg otherwise we’ll win too much and lose that valuable draft pick. All i can say is it better be worth it and we get Marcus Smart or an athletic SF.

    • Jan 29, 201311:19 pm
      by Jinzzy

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      Marcus Smart would be gone by the time we pick ,besides  I think we would probably end up picking someone like James McAdoo 

  • Jan 29, 20139:27 pm
    by Vince

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    Watch the bucks drop 120 on us. smh.

  • Jan 29, 20139:29 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    can we just start drummond now? 

  • Jan 29, 20139:29 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    can we just start drummond now? …

  • Jan 29, 20139:32 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    im not impressed by Jenning he got hot…it happens…but our sloppy play and terrible turnovers…and poor coaching rotation…kills me

  • Jan 29, 20139:33 pm
    by domnick

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    revenge by Bucks…. we played horrible.. what the hell..

  • Jan 29, 20139:33 pm
    by Vince

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    JJ and English just checked in… I assume thats Frank’s way of saying he’s given up on this game.

  • Jan 29, 20139:39 pm
    by domnick

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    we need to make some trades… i dont see why we should make and take this season away…

  • Jan 29, 20139:41 pm
    by Vince

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    Oh wtf. Dre goes for 20 20 and Frank benches him to play small with JJ at C…

  • Jan 29, 20139:43 pm
    by Mark

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    Can we please can Dumars and Frank at the end off the season?  Are you watching Mr. Gores?

  • Jan 29, 20139:45 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    yeah Frank Pull Drummond …before he can get a 20-20 game!!!!!

    I HATE FRANK!!!!!!!!! 

  • Jan 29, 20139:46 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    anyone who support Frank I can not respect

  • Jan 29, 20139:54 pm
    by gmehl

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    At what point do you think Maxiell should do the right thing as a senior player and go to Frank and say i think its time to start Drummond in my place. This is how the conversation should go down:

    Maxiell – Hey Laurence the kid is producing in 5 minutes what i do in a whole game. I probably won’t be here by next season anyways Laurence so yeah i think it might be time. I’ll come off the bench and maybe i can ignite it with short burst like i should be doing.

    • Jan 29, 20139:58 pm
      by vic

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      that’s a great conversation

      • Jan 29, 201310:18 pm
        by gmehl

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        Too bad its only a fictitious conversation 

  • Jan 29, 20139:55 pm
    by apa8ren9

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    I never ever leave games before they are over, because I actually like going to the Palace,  But tonight was a feeling Ive never had before attending a Pistons game.  Ive watched the Pistons lose and Ive watched the Pistons get blown out, but this was just on another level tonight.  I had to leave early, I couldnt even make it to the 4th quarter.  I witnessed every single player (except Drummond) quit tonight.  Maybe not Knight but he was just a turnover fest tonight.  They have to make some kind of move even if its minor cause somebody needs to pay for this.  The reason I say  that is because, they have a legitimate shot at making the playoffs in a terrible eastern conference and this is the turd that they lay.  Just unbelievable.  I cant even get excited about the possibility because there really is no way they can make the playoffs without some type of change.  Everyone’s grade tonight is an F (except Andre) 

    • Jan 29, 201310:11 pm
      by Jinzzy

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      I feel your pain bro LOL

    • Jan 29, 201310:24 pm
      by gmehl

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      You have to ask yourself whether powers above have been instructing certain individuals for us NOT to make the playoffs by any means necessary. How can we build such big leads in games only to let the other team come back and win. You can say its age or you could says its coaching but i am a little bit more skeptical with it all. After we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs you will see 2 things happen 1) we will string together a huge winning streak 2) Drummond will start and play 30-35mpg. I really believe this will happen. 

  • Jan 29, 20139:56 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    i dont normally cuss… But Frank is a ASSHOLE!!!! for pull DRE…do you know wha that could have done for hos confidence?

    20-20 game…he might have become one of the youngest players in NBA history to do that…

    Could have kept him in for 2 more minutes..

    Frank You Are A ASSHOLE and a Horrible Coach… i will remember this game forever 

  • Jan 29, 20139:58 pm
    by Mone

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    Drummond had a chance to reach a great milestone in his career with a 20 20 game. A 20 20 game is about as spectacular as a triple double. Frank just went from a horrible coach to a wtf is Dumars thinking coach..

  • Jan 29, 20139:59 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    when the Bucks got back with in 7 or 8 pts Frank could have ….should have pulled all of the bench players… he waits for the team to get down …then he subs

  • Jan 29, 20139:59 pm
    by Prelove

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    stuckey & frank are garbage

  • Jan 29, 201310:00 pm
    by vic

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    wow

  • Jan 29, 201310:04 pm
    by Vince

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    Monroe: B
    Maxiell: F
    Prince: C-
    Singler: F
    Knight:  D-

    Drummond: A++
    Stuckey: D-
    Daye: F
    Bynum: F
    Villanueva: F
    Jerebko: D
    English: C

    Frank: Z-

    By far the worst game of the year. Looks like Frank lost JJ, if not other players on the roster. He just shot it everytime he got the ball, and you know what, good for him, being benched for 30 games is brutal, I wouldn’t be disappointed to see him traded now, the look on his face said it all, he’s sick of it.

    All you Knight homers need to understand something, he may be listed as a PG, but his passing and ball handling is brutal.

    Frank’s shitty coaching cost us the game, not to mention he ruined the only bright spot in our night: Dre’s first 20pt and 20 reb game, subbing him out when he was missing two points and two rebounds, with 7 minute left in the quarter.

    This coach is a joke, our GM is a joke, Gores wants to get us to start winning? Get rid of both those clowns. Want a defense first team? Get MacMillan, he’s better than Frank. So sick of this. I don’t know if anyone is counting how many games we’ve lost to Frank’s poor situational coaching, but this has to be at least the 10th.
     

  • Jan 29, 201310:09 pm
    by George

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    Here is the contact info for Gores company, which owns the Pistons.

    http://www.platinumequity.com/contact

    I think it is time for us fans to voice our displeasure with the direction of the team.  JoeD and Frank should go, and basically our entire roster not named Monroe or Drummond should be on the table. 

  • Jan 29, 201310:10 pm
    by Prelove

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    On the brightside, Drummond now owns the nba record for fastest double, double. Slightly over David robinson

    • Jan 29, 201310:12 pm
      by Vince

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      I assume he would’ve won youngest player to ever get a 20 20 as well….

    • Jan 29, 201310:36 pm
      by gmehl

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      Wow…fastest double double in history… and he’s only 19. Thank you again to all the 8 teams that passed on him.

  • Jan 29, 201310:19 pm
    by Dre all day

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    I’ve seen frank make some pretty boneheaded decisions like everyone else on here but taking drummond out was the biggest screw up i’ve seen him make this season. a 20-20 game for a 19 yr old would do wonders for his confidence but nooooo. Frank must’ve thought “Wow this kid could get a 20-20 game and make me look even dumber for not starting him, better take away his chance to be one of the youngest players to ever record one and sit him!”…..smh so much.
     

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