Comments on: Lawrence Frank defends Kevin Garnett’s trash talking http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 08:53:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113862 G Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:18:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113862 More evidence? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpvPgOMYjHo - Tripped Toney Douglas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFgECUCwvk - Elbowed Q in the face http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFsXfnMxao - Elbowed Aldridge in the head & got smacked for it (the elbow swing is a favorite move of his, he pulled the same thing after dunking on Bogut) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP4RUHRcN3E - Elbowed Noah in the gut after Noah fouled him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRLsCQIBks - The nut punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAfp6ZCsvGc - There's screens, there's moving screens, and then there's this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5n5WNmzfOo - Sticking his finger in Calderon's face as he dribbles down court http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erqg1ZLt_VA - Punches Dwight Howard's arm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uqQpCo0d0E - Pushing off the refs http://www.celticstown.com/2012/10/11/kevin-garnett-doesnt-like-to-talk-a-lot-wait-what/ - Biting at Dwight Howard. This is a little crazy, right? Look, there's a lot more. He tends to pick fights with guys much smaller than him, he pulls a lot of dirty crap that doesn't get called (because he's good at it, really), and quite a bit that does get called. He's an a-hole. More evidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpvPgOMYjHo
- Tripped Toney Douglas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFgECUCwvk
- Elbowed Q in the face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFsXfnMxao
- Elbowed Aldridge in the head & got smacked for it (the elbow swing is a favorite move of his, he pulled the same thing after dunking on Bogut)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP4RUHRcN3E
- Elbowed Noah in the gut after Noah fouled him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRLsCQIBks
- The nut punch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAfp6ZCsvGc
- There’s screens, there’s moving screens, and then there’s this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5n5WNmzfOo
- Sticking his finger in Calderon’s face as he dribbles down court

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erqg1ZLt_VA
- Punches Dwight Howard’s arm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uqQpCo0d0E
- Pushing off the refs

http://www.celticstown.com/2012/10/11/kevin-garnett-doesnt-like-to-talk-a-lot-wait-what/
- Biting at Dwight Howard. This is a little crazy, right?

Look, there’s a lot more. He tends to pick fights with guys much smaller than him, he pulls a lot of dirty crap that doesn’t get called (because he’s good at it, really), and quite a bit that does get called. He’s an a-hole.

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113856 G Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:54:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113856 Dude, how long have you been watching the NBA? Garnett is SUPER dirty. Talking smack is the least of it, believe me. He's dirtier than Bruce Bowen was, not QUITE as dirty as Rodman, but closer than you think. And I loved Rodman, but he was the dirtiest in the game for a while. Dude, how long have you been watching the NBA? Garnett is SUPER dirty. Talking smack is the least of it, believe me. He’s dirtier than Bruce Bowen was, not QUITE as dirty as Rodman, but closer than you think. And I loved Rodman, but he was the dirtiest in the game for a while.

]]> By: Derek http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113826 Derek Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:08:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113826 KG punched Channing Frye in the nuts.  <a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments#/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments" rel="nofollow">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments#/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments</a> KG punched Channing Frye in the nuts. 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments#/articles/615615-nba-power-rankings-kevin-garnetts-10-dirtiest-moments

]]> By: Derek http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113825 Derek Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:59:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113825 The Bad Boys played smash mouth ball.  Hardnosed gritty innercity grind it out sort of stuff.  That's different from telling a dude that lost his mother Happy Mother's day MF'er.  Or making vulgar comments about someone's wife.  Or calling another player a cancer patient. I could respect Garnett for being physical, if he wasn't such a punk when cats turn around and get physical with him.  The Bad Boys punked everybody, KG looks carefully selects... The Bad Boys played smash mouth ball.  Hardnosed gritty innercity grind it out sort of stuff.  That’s different from telling a dude that lost his mother Happy Mother’s day MF’er.  Or making vulgar comments about someone’s wife.  Or calling another player a cancer patient.

I could respect Garnett for being physical, if he wasn’t such a punk when cats turn around and get physical with him. 

The Bad Boys punked everybody, KG looks carefully selects…

]]> By: Guus http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113762 Guus Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:46 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113762 Dear UK Pistons fans, A bit off topic, but I hope you'll forgive me, for I didn't know how else to contact you :) My name is Guus Teeuwen, a Dutch Pistons fan. Since I have great girlfriend who went through a lot of trouble to arrange my birthday gift, I am going to see our Pistons live in London. I'm over the moon! Now, I could use the help of my British fellow Pistons fans: I have to be at Stansted airport friday morning 6 a.m. (UK time), and have no place to stay between the end of the game (or the closing of the bar after the game :P) and my having to be at the airport. So I was wondering: would anyone have me surf their couch for a few hours to get some shut eye (maybe talk some Pistons and have a drink) before I am on my way to the airport? It would be greatly appreciated from one Pistons fan to another :) I'm not sure how we should proceed to contact one another (I'm on facebook: Guus Teeuwen, Eindhoven), but a reply to this comment would possibly get things started: we would find a way :) Thanks in advance, Cheers, Guus Teeuwen Dear UK Pistons fans,

A bit off topic, but I hope you’ll forgive me, for I didn’t know how else to contact you :)

My name is Guus Teeuwen, a Dutch Pistons fan. Since I have great girlfriend who went through a lot of trouble to arrange my birthday gift, I am going to see our Pistons live in London. I’m over the moon!

Now, I could use the help of my British fellow Pistons fans: I have to be at Stansted airport friday morning 6 a.m. (UK time), and have no place to stay between the end of the game (or the closing of the bar after the game :P) and my having to be at the airport. So I was wondering: would anyone have me surf their couch for a few hours to get some shut eye (maybe talk some Pistons and have a drink) before I am on my way to the airport? It would be greatly appreciated from one Pistons fan to another :)

I’m not sure how we should proceed to contact one another (I’m on facebook: Guus Teeuwen, Eindhoven), but a reply to this comment would possibly get things started: we would find a way :)

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

Guus Teeuwen

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113729 tarsier Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:47:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113729 So unless you have more evidence that Garnett is a scumbag than one inappropriate remark about Duncan's mother, hold off on judging him. We've all done a lot of indecent things in our lives. We're just lucky enough to not be so publicly visible. (And unlucky enough to not be so fabulously wealthy for it.) So unless you have more evidence that Garnett is a scumbag than one inappropriate remark about Duncan’s mother, hold off on judging him. We’ve all done a lot of indecent things in our lives. We’re just lucky enough to not be so publicly visible. (And unlucky enough to not be so fabulously wealthy for it.)

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113727 tarsier Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:44:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113727 Making fun of someone's dead mother: very uncool. Making fun of CV for having no hair: who the hell cares? Is alopecia crippling Villanueva's life? He looks funny. Ideally, people don't mock each other, but it's no worse if it is because of alopecia than if it is because they were just born ugly. If teasing CV for being hairless is enough to knock Charlie of f his game, that is a much bigger problem for CV than for KG. Making fun of someone’s dead mother: very uncool.

Making fun of CV for having no hair: who the hell cares? Is alopecia crippling Villanueva’s life? He looks funny. Ideally, people don’t mock each other, but it’s no worse if it is because of alopecia than if it is because they were just born ugly. If teasing CV for being hairless is enough to knock Charlie of f his game, that is a much bigger problem for CV than for KG.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113726 tarsier Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:38:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113726 KG is certainly vulgar. But a history of dirty plays? When? I don't love Garnett's methods of trying to rile up opponents. But apart from that, his game is a beauty to behold. His trash talking is much like the flopping of many other players. It's unfortunate, but unless the league decides to disincentivize it somehow, it is just a smart approach to the game. If a few words can make your opponents play less well, how is it not smart to use them? Kevin Garnett plays with fanaticism and so much emotion, but very rarely lets it get out of control with his body, just his mouth (heck, even his mouth he is great at only directing at other players and not refs/coaches/fans). If everyone could stick to running their mouths at each other instead of getting into actual, physical conflicts, the world would be a much better place. Garnett is far from my favorite player. But he deserves a ton of respect. And if he were a Piston, I guarantee you guys would love him and see past his flaws. KG is certainly vulgar. But a history of dirty plays? When? I don’t love Garnett’s methods of trying to rile up opponents. But apart from that, his game is a beauty to behold. His trash talking is much like the flopping of many other players. It’s unfortunate, but unless the league decides to disincentivize it somehow, it is just a smart approach to the game. If a few words can make your opponents play less well, how is it not smart to use them? Kevin Garnett plays with fanaticism and so much emotion, but very rarely lets it get out of control with his body, just his mouth (heck, even his mouth he is great at only directing at other players and not refs/coaches/fans). If everyone could stick to running their mouths at each other instead of getting into actual, physical conflicts, the world would be a much better place.

Garnett is far from my favorite player. But he deserves a ton of respect. And if he were a Piston, I guarantee you guys would love him and see past his flaws.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113725 tarsier Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:28:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113725 I always look forward to Duncan Garnett matchups. Not only are they arguably the two most skilled guys to ever play the position, they genuinely dislike each other. They have a little something extra whenever going head to head. I don't know of one other player Duncan dislikes. I always look forward to Duncan Garnett matchups. Not only are they arguably the two most skilled guys to ever play the position, they genuinely dislike each other. They have a little something extra whenever going head to head. I don’t know of one other player Duncan dislikes.

]]> By: 19880607 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/lawrence-frank-defends-kevin-garnetts-trash-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-113719 19880607 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:46:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12400#comment-113719 I would say the question of whether or not trash talk crosses some sort of line would be between the trash talker and the object of the trash talk. I have friends to whom I have said and have heard trash talk far far worse than anything mentioned here, things that we would never say to mere strangers by the way. I don't think that makes us bad people. We just all know that we are trying to get each others' goat. Garnett doesn't care about making friends he just wants to win. Also, calling Garnett a "P.O.S." is not a classy thing to do, it just puts you on the same level as him. I would say the question of whether or not trash talk crosses some sort of line would be between the trash talker and the object of the trash talk. I have friends to whom I have said and have heard trash talk far far worse than anything mentioned here, things that we would never say to mere strangers by the way. I don’t think that makes us bad people. We just all know that we are trying to get each others’ goat. Garnett doesn’t care about making friends he just wants to win. Also, calling Garnett a “P.O.S.” is not a classy thing to do, it just puts you on the same level as him.

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