Comments on: Joe Dumars’ triumphant return puts focus on what’s next, especially for Brandon Knight http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:04:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117571 G Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:06:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117571 I like Redick also, except he's a SG and Martin is a SF, and I think SF is the greater need. Both are awful defenders but I think Martin has a slight edge. I like Redick also, except he’s a SG and Martin is a SF, and I think SF is the greater need. Both are awful defenders but I think Martin has a slight edge.

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117503 G Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:21:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117503 Not sure if you're joking but if you are, that's pretty funny Not sure if you’re joking but if you are, that’s pretty funny

]]> By: Tony http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117452 Tony Fri, 01 Feb 2013 03:39:21 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117452 Your hypothesis is not that well thought out.   Most really intelligent people can see situations 2 to 3 steps ahead.  Great Chess players (most are very intelligent) see the board 5 to 6 moves ahead.  Knight might be very smart but his intelligence does not transfer onto the hardwood.   Your hypothesis is not that well thought out.   Most really intelligent people can see situations 2 to 3 steps ahead.  Great Chess players (most are very intelligent) see the board 5 to 6 moves ahead.  Knight might be very smart but his intelligence does not transfer onto the hardwood.  

]]> By: D_S_V http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117429 D_S_V Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:56:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117429 I was toying with the idea of a Smith-Drummond 4-5 combo in my head. Hopefully while getting a blue chip 1,2,3 for Monroe. Gotta say, I kinda liked it. I was toying with the idea of a Smith-Drummond 4-5 combo in my head. Hopefully while getting a blue chip 1,2,3 for Monroe. Gotta say, I kinda liked it.

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117396 G Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117396 That is fantastic! That is fantastic!

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117395 G Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:47:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117395 Good point. Last year's free agent signings kicked off on July 1st and the amnesty deadline was July 16th I think, so orchestrating everything in 2 weeks is probably out of the question. Good point. Last year’s free agent signings kicked off on July 1st and the amnesty deadline was July 16th I think, so orchestrating everything in 2 weeks is probably out of the question.

]]> By: G http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117392 G Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:38:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117392 I can agree with some of that. I doubt Boston would offer up Sullinger for Calderon and one last title run, but if they did I'd jump on that. I think you're nervous about cap space because of the way Joe D used his last time he had any, but cap space is for more than signing cheap young talent. There's plenty of moderately priced to slightly expensive talent out there, and cap space is good for that. At some point you have to start to go for it. If you stay constantly in the rebuilding phase (where we've been since 2009), you're never going to get anywhere. The '04 team was built with 2 REALLY good drafts picks (Joe had a lot of bad ones, Pistons traded away the pick that became Josh Smith, then there's the whole Darko thing), a couple REALLY good trades - the Grant Hill sign & trade being the cornerstone, the Rip Hamilton deal filled in the middle, then the 'Sheed trade being the capstone, and getting Billups in free agency. This team will have to be built differently from the '04 team. One of the main reasons the '04 team was built through trades was because Joe D didn't have very many good drafts. He drafted Cleaves with the 14th pick in '00, Rodney White with the 9th pick of the '01 draft, and of course Darko & Delfino in '03. My guess is this team will largely be built on draft picks and free agents, and the draft picks are already on the roster. I can agree with some of that. I doubt Boston would offer up Sullinger for Calderon and one last title run, but if they did I’d jump on that. I think you’re nervous about cap space because of the way Joe D used his last time he had any, but cap space is for more than signing cheap young talent. There’s plenty of moderately priced to slightly expensive talent out there, and cap space is good for that.

At some point you have to start to go for it. If you stay constantly in the rebuilding phase (where we’ve been since 2009), you’re never going to get anywhere. The ’04 team was built with 2 REALLY good drafts picks (Joe had a lot of bad ones, Pistons traded away the pick that became Josh Smith, then there’s the whole Darko thing), a couple REALLY good trades – the Grant Hill sign & trade being the cornerstone, the Rip Hamilton deal filled in the middle, then the ‘Sheed trade being the capstone, and getting Billups in free agency.

This team will have to be built differently from the ’04 team. One of the main reasons the ’04 team was built through trades was because Joe D didn’t have very many good drafts. He drafted Cleaves with the 14th pick in ’00, Rodney White with the 9th pick of the ’01 draft, and of course Darko & Delfino in ’03. My guess is this team will largely be built on draft picks and free agents, and the draft picks are already on the roster.

]]> By: Crispus http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117391 Crispus Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:37:52 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117391 If we flip Calderon ------> Scott Machado SCOTT MACHADO SCOTT! MACHADO! 10 DAY CONTRACT NO RISK If we flip Calderon ——> Scott Machado SCOTT MACHADO SCOTT! MACHADO! 10 DAY CONTRACT NO RISK

]]> By: Crispus http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117390 Crispus Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:35:17 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117390 I like Redick better than Martin, a less dynamic scorer, but just as good a shooter and a much better passer. I like Redick better than Martin, a less dynamic scorer, but just as good a shooter and a much better passer.

]]> By: Crispus http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/joe-dumars-triumphant-return-puts-focus-on-whats-next-especially-for-brandon-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-117384 Crispus Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:05:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12583#comment-117384 I think we have footage of Joe D coming out of his stupor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9eRkdIeuk&t=0m55s  I think we have footage of Joe D coming out of his stupor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9eRkdIeuk&t=0m55s 

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