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Andre Drummond’s 18-18 wasted in Pistons’ 117-90 loss to Bucks

Milwaukee Bucks 117 Final
Recap | Box Score
90 Detroit Pistons
Jason Maxiell, PF 20 MIN | 1-5 FG | 1-1 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -3

He wasn’t as bad as his line suggests, but he didn’t play well.

Tayshaun Prince, SF 24 MIN | 4-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 10 PTS | -12

Prince often likes to attack Mike Dunleavy when they’re matched up, but he didn’t have much of an opportunity tonight. In the eight minutes they shared the court, Prince shot 2-of-4 and got to the line, where he made 2-of-2.

Greg Monroe, C 24 MIN | 6-8 FG | 2-3 FT | 8 REB | 4 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 5 TO | 14 PTS | -11

Monroe scored efficiently – once he got his shot up. He was way too careless with the ball, and his defense was lacking.

Brandon Knight, PG 23 MIN | 3-8 FG | 4-4 FT | 0 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 10 PTS | -12

Knight had four turnovers of his own, and he might have been responsible for two of Kyle Singler’s. On one play, Singler grabbed a defensive rebound and threw a short outlet pass off Knight’s fingertips that I think Knight should have caught. On another play, Andre Drummond saved the ball from going out bounds on the baseline by passing to Singler. Singler immediately passed to Knight as Knight turned his head to look up court. I know Knight doesn’t always bring the ball up when it gets in the hands of someone like Rodney Stuckey or Tayshaun Prince, but he should be ready to take it from Singler. On the bright side, I wouldn’t put Brandon Jennings’ 30 points on Knight. That was more of a team failure.

Kyle Singler, SG 28 MIN | 4-11 FG | 3-3 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 12 PTS | -14

It speaks to Singler’s activity level that he found nine good shots – of the other two, one was a bad shot and one was with the shot clock running out – but it speaks to his ability level that he made only three of those nine.

Austin Daye, PF 18 MIN | 0-5 FG | 3-4 FT | 7 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -5

We often chastise Daye for not doing anything else when his shot isn’t falling, but that wasn’t the case tonight. Daye really got after it on the glass.

Jonas Jerebko, PF 9 MIN | 3-9 FG | 0-2 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 6 PTS | -3

Nine shots in nine minutes – Jerebko played like someone who doesn’t get many opportunities. Oh, right. He doesn’t.

Andre Drummond, C 28 MIN | 9-15 FG | 0-1 FT | 18 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 18 PTS | -21

Drummond notched a double-double in just his first 12:20 of play. He finished with 18 points and 18 rebounds, and Dwight Howard is the only younger player since at least 1985-86 to post those totals. So why doesn’t Drummond get a higher grade? He was lost on defense a bit too often. With Drummond on the court, according to NBA.com/stats, the Bucks rebounded 41 percent of their misses – which would be an NBA high over the full season – partially because Drummond was out of position. He looked gas by the end of the game, missing a dunk, and Vincent Goodwill of The Detroit News thought Drummond wanted a break much earlier in the game, too.

Will Bynum, PG 17 MIN | 1-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 2 PTS | -21

Bynum captained a second unit that turned the ball over on five of its first 15 possessions. That’s when the Pistons blew an 11-point lead in the first half. After that, the Pistons basically gave up – which, to be fair, isn’t Bynum’s fault.

Lawrence Frank

He played Drummond 28 minutes, the rookie’s most in the calendar year, but it shouldn’t have taken Monroe’s foul trouble to get Drummond in the game early. To Frank’s credit, he brought in Drummond even earlier in the second half than the first. Isolated to this game, there’s not much Frank can do when the team makes many careless turnovers and gives up once it gets down.

76 Comments

  • Jan 29, 201310:15 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    I HATE FRANK!!!!!AND I HATE FRANKLY SPEAKING!!!!!!

    I HATE HIM NOT STSRTING DRUMMOND!!!!

    I HATE HIM NOT ALLOW DRUMMOND TO GET HIS 20-20 

  • Jan 29, 201310:17 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    I HATE FRANK!!!!!AND I HATE FRANKLY SPEAKING!!!!!!

    I HATE HIM NOT STSRTING DRUMMOND!!!!

    I HATE HIM NOT ALLOW DRUMMOND TO GET HIS 20-20 ….

  • Jan 29, 201310:26 pm
    by Jay

    Reply

    Can I just say Austin Daye, Charlie V, and Stuckey NEEEED TO BE TRADED or just let go!!!! They are the reason this team can’t get anywhere

    • Jan 30, 201311:53 am
      by RalphHau

      Reply

      Don’t forget to throw in Prince, he can’t defend, he’s a black hole in the fact that he has a hard time passing the ball.  Dumars needs to serve as a third on the Toronto trade.  I agree with Austin D, Charlie, Stuckey and Prince being the principals in that trade.  Go Joe…do it!

  • Jan 29, 201310:27 pm
    by gmehl

    Reply

    I know you get a lot of sh1t for your headlines Dan but that one right there is totally on point. Sad sad sad that the young kids night was ruined because of it in more ways than one. Frank could’ve kept him in for 2-3 more minutes and he would of had a 20-20 which would of eased the pain of watching that sorry excuse of an effort from a wanna be playoff team.

  • Jan 29, 201310:32 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    Im soo disappointed in Frank…he could have just let Drummond played

    im I knew he was a bad coach, but now i see he is a terrible power hunger…idiot 

  • Jan 29, 201310:39 pm
    by domnick

    Reply

    trade must be done…..

  • Jan 29, 201310:48 pm
    by hoophabit

    Reply

    The Pistons play again tomorrow and Andre looked fatigued.  The game was lost and he already had an exceptional game.  What is so magical about 20/20?  What does it demonstrate about Andre that 18/18 doesn’t?
     
    Our guard play is so poor!  If opposing guards can get in the paint at will all game long, then the team is going to look really bad.

    • Jan 29, 201310:55 pm
      by Vince

      Reply

      What is so special about a 20/20? Dear god man, do you have no idea the significance that a 20/20 game has? Especially for a 19 yo kid?

      • Jan 30, 201312:21 am
        by Lorenzo

        Reply

        A 20/20 game would be largely symbolic…probably more to the fans than anyone else. An 18/18 game is quite impressive and confidence boosting in it’s own right, the issue here is a loss, that’s what the focus should be on. And if a stat bump of 2pts and 2rebs is that important to any player in the NBA (not saying it is to Dre) then that individual requires a serious spell of maturity; as the cliche goes, you play for the win, not stats….we are not in the business of developing future Ricky Davis’ here. 

        • Jan 30, 20138:37 am
          by Steve K

          Reply

          I’m with Lorenzo here. I’m glad he didn’t get 20/20. That would take attention away from the horrible performance of the other players. This team is in year 3 or a serious rebuilding campaign. Performances like this would be acceptable in year 1, but the fan base is much less forgiving in year 3. We have a right to be pissed. Despite Drummond’s good stats, the team played perhaps their worst game since the 0-8 start.
           
          That’s going in the wrong direction.

          • Jan 30, 201311:39 am
            by I HATE FRANK

            Be clear Drummond is nothing like Ricky Davis…Drummond played hard…and always play hard…20-20 is a MILESTONE especially for a rookie…only other player his age that would have done it was Dwight Howard…and Howard did not do it as a rookie…

            lillard scored like 35 or 40 pts…his team loses by double figures and everyone talks about how great he will be…. Drummond could have done the same…

            When you figure how rare 20-20 games have been…its not just something to pass over…

          • Jan 30, 20133:57 pm
            by Lorenzo

            I don’t care how rare it is, it still comes off particularly petty as the team lost. The only stat that should matter to this team is wins and losses; like I said for fans a 20/20 would be a nice little trinket to hold on to in the midst of a colossal mess…though it is nothing more than fools gold if your team lost…and in an embarrassing fashion at that. For professionals stats are nothing without winning… and I’m sure Dre’ as a professional (all indications so far show that he is) would agree with that.

  • Jan 29, 201310:50 pm
    by Dre all day

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    Frank’s thoughts: “hmmmm.. drummond is probably going to egt a 20-20 game if i leave him in for the rest of the game and make me look stupid for not starting him soooooooo… time to take him out!!!!!” smh
     

  • Jan 29, 201311:11 pm
    by Rich

    Reply

    Enough’s enough with this backcourt.  It’s a joke. The Pistons have, bar none, the worst starting backcourt in the league. They are above average as a rebounding duo. That is literally the only aspect of the game they aren’t bad at. They can’t score effectively, they can’t stop any dribble penetration, they can’t create shots for others, and they can’t handle without turning it over.

    I could scream it until I was hoarse – Knight is nothing but a spot up shooter. Nothing else. How many times does he have to lose control of his dribble without any significant defensive pressure for the staff to get that? Put him off the ball where he belongs.

    Start him at SG, and put in either Bynum or Stuckey at the point. Either of them is a markedly better option. Go with that backcourt, with either Tay or Singler at the 3 and Drummond and Monroe down low. Operate half your offensive possessions with Monroe out of the high post. Operate the other half out of the pick and role with Bynum/Stuckey and Drummond. Spread Knight and Singler/Tay for spot up shots. It isn’t rocket science.

    • Jan 29, 201311:33 pm
      by gmehl

      Reply

      In regards to Stuckey starting again I read a comment somewhere (i think Bleacher Report) that the argument that Frank and Stuckey had was actually about Frank wanting Stuckey back in the starting lineup whereas Stuckey doesn’t want to. I know it sounds ridiculous but thought it was worth a mention. On that note i think the following changes need to be made:

      PG – Stuckey (guards SG on defence)
      SG – Knight (guards PG on defence)
      SF – Prince
      PF – Monroe
      C – Drummond

      • Jan 30, 201312:31 am
        by Tim

        Reply

        honestly, why are we still starting prince?  What, exactly, does he add to the mix?  His defense is pedestrian, his shot is terrible (and ruins spacing/keeping the D honest) and he adds little of the intagibles that once made him valuable.  Sure, he still does well in his called, slow post isolations, but that would be just as serviceable coming off the bench.  We need better spacing in our starting lineup and, really, we need it from the 3.  

      • Jan 30, 20132:34 am
        by Mrshourite

        Reply

        I like that lineup. 

      • Jan 30, 20134:10 am
        by Vic

        Reply

        Stuckey should definitely be starting at point, if so the season would have continued where last season left off + Drummond

        • Jan 30, 201311:59 am
          by RalphHau

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          How did Stuckey work out last nigt?  Hummmm, passive aggressive, did exactly NOTHING!  Prince, couldn’t block out, couldn’t play defense, shot way too much and hit nothing. 

    • Jan 30, 20131:46 am
      by Scott Free

      Reply

      Well Said!  Seconded.

    • Jan 30, 20139:11 am
      by Crispus

      Reply

      They should do a reshoot of that Brandon Knight broom-dribbling commercial where another broom comes in on the double team and the brooms steal the ball from Brandon Knight.

  • Jan 29, 201311:15 pm
    by Rich

    Reply

    Also, all of you bitching about the 20-20… Christ, who cares?  He’s going to have dozens of the when his career is over.  There was plenty to complain about this game – having a hissy fit because the coach didn’t let a visibly gassed 19 year old stay in on the first of a back-to-back for an arbitrary statistical milestone is ridiculous.

  • Jan 29, 201311:26 pm
    by jacob

    Reply

    Are we in tank mode???????????????????? Who are we planning on drafting?

    • Jan 29, 201311:31 pm
      by jacob

      Reply

      They also said Lowry is available.

    • Jan 30, 20139:14 am
      by MIKEYDE248

      Reply

      The Pistons play 6 of their next 8 games against playoff teams.  Last night was the first of those and that was one that I had marked as a win.  After this stretch their season will be over.

  • Jan 29, 201311:27 pm
    by LT

    Reply

    i was certain that Jennings had 20 points in the 3RD quarter. Am i mistaken?

  • Jan 29, 201311:28 pm
    by Vince

    Reply

  • Jan 29, 201311:28 pm
    by jacob

    Reply

    Tor-Mem is looking for a 3rd team to take calderon. Whats Joe D waiting for send some of our garbage up north or to Mem who cares, just blow this team up!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jan 30, 20133:53 am
      by gmehl

      Reply

      Yeah here is 2 trade scenarios i think would be helpful to all 3 teams:

      http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aoxkuup 

      http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=azfafta

      • Jan 30, 20135:27 am
        by Vince

        Reply

        I like both, but I think this works out a bit better. 

        http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=azswg4v

        • Jan 30, 20138:51 am
          by G

          Reply

          Dude, Toronto isn’t trading both Calderon and Lowry, it’s one or the other. And why should Boston get Lowry when all they contributed was Courtney Lee?

          • Jan 30, 20139:26 am
            by Vince

            Well, all in all mostly because I’m really bored and I hope theres a huge trade in the works somewhere in the League that I can analyze and pick apart… also because salary matched up and I felt like including Boston just so I could get rid of Stuckey.

            This is what it has come down to for me. The games make me depressed so I just imagine trades that’ll ship out our crappy players for more productive ones.

          • Jan 30, 201310:48 am
            by G

            Problem is Detroit can’t get value for Stuckey right now. His shot isn’t falling and his contentious ways have resurfaced (probably due to frustration with his shot)

  • Jan 29, 201311:30 pm
    by Sevan

    Reply

    Why is everybody blaming everything on franck. I dont blame him for not starting drummond if drummond does start then who is going to repplace him if he needs to rest jason will be under sized and krastov needs more development and monroe cant replace him because he is starting. But you know who I blame I BLAME JOE DUMARS because he is not making any good trades to replace monroe when he is on the bench  or drummond when he is on the bench or prince or singular.

    • Jan 30, 201312:16 am
      by tarsier

      Reply

      Do you realize that, even if the Pistons always need one of Monroe and Drummond on the floor, that can be accomplished by starting both and staggering their minutes. The fact of the matter is that your two best players should be combining for a heck of a lot more than 48 mpg.

      • Jan 30, 20138:55 am
        by G

        Reply

        Yeah, Frank deserves a chunk of the blame, but the way this team is constructed makes no sense. Your best 3PT shooter is a 6’10″ 200LB PF, your best PG is 5’10″ and comes off the bench, your shooting guard can’t shoot, your center can’t defend and your starting PF is the same size as your guards.

        Really Joe?

        • Jan 30, 20139:23 am
          by Ozzie-Moto

          Reply

          Exactly  except you SHOULD add FRANK as out of position as well as a head coach 

          • Jan 30, 201310:50 am
            by G

            Hah! Yeah, probably… Which is another thing to add to the list of things Joe D effed up (although supposedly Joe D wanted Mike Woodson, Gores wanted Frank)

  • Jan 29, 201311:44 pm
    by damian

    Reply

    it’s starting to feel different again. even when we lose, i can find positives to dwell on these days.
    there’s potential in what i’m watching, hard to deny.

  • Jan 29, 201311:46 pm
    by menten

    Reply

    stuckey is a turd.

  • Jan 30, 201312:29 am
    by Lorenzo

    Reply

    This team does not need blowing up, it has some parts, very young, and in some cases clearly mismatched, but there is a silver lining in this team…there are players to build around and assets to move. A shake up would be good for the squad, the next step in progression has to be rinforcments at the two or three…and of course…patience.

    • Jan 30, 20131:10 am
      by jacob

      Reply

      Blowing up meaning getting rid of prince max bynum daye charlie v moving singler to the 3 starting drummond finding a real pg

      • Jan 30, 20131:13 am
        by jacob

        Reply

        Stuckey too. WE need almost a whole new team and probably a better coach.

      • Jan 30, 20131:57 am
        by Lorenzo

        Reply

        max, bynum, daye, charlie, are all expendable, none are part of the “core.” So I certainly can understand any and/or all getting moved in one shape or another….though I wouldn’t call that “blowing up”…that too me is moving Monroe, Drummond, Knight territory. But yeah certainly not going to fuss over semantics, I get your point.

        • Jan 30, 20139:21 am
          by MIKEYDE248

          Reply

          Bynum is cheap enough and plays does a good job in his role and is worth holding on to.  If we could re-sign Max for much cheaper and have him coming off the bench, wouldn’t mind having him come back either.  Daye, CV & Stuckey need to go.  I wouldn’t mind keeping Prince either, but only if he moved to a back-up role and played more like 20 minutes a game.

  • Jan 30, 20131:05 am
    by MNM

    Reply

    ATTENTION: THEY LOST BY 27 POINTS…SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS DRUMMOND GOT WERE IN “GARBAGE TIME”, WHICH HAPPENED QUITE EARLY..THEY WERE DOWN BY AT LEAST 30 DURING CERTAIN POINTS OF THE GAME..THEREFOR 20/20 WOULD MEAN NOTHING IN THE GRAND SCEME OF THINGS…BECAUSE THEY LOST BY 27 POINTS..

    Don’t be stupid…some of you are just straight up dumb. 

    • Jan 30, 20131:28 am
      by Blocks By Dre

      Reply

      Drummond had 12 and 11 before half…which was also before “garbage time” so what are you saying here? That if Drummond would have gotten 20/20 it wouldn’t mean as much? Wether we were up or down it was VERY CLEAR early in the game that Drummond was getting his regardless of the outcome of the game

      • Jan 30, 201310:42 am
        by MNM

        Reply

        When the game was within “arms length” and there was still a chance, those are the numbers that matter.. It’s rediculous to harp on “empty stats” in a 27-30 point deficit. There are bigger problems with this team than the “Frank should be fired” because “Drummond didn’t get his 20/20 and that’s just another reason to pile on.”.. He was also a minus 21, who, a number of times, kept leaving his man to go chase the guy with the ball, which in turn left his man open a number of times for easy layups and dunks..yet nobody wanted to discuss that. He also looked tired and started to drag.. At least Dan mentioned it, because nobody else had any intention on doing so.
         We need to forcus on bigger issues with this roster.. By the way, Toronto needs a 3rd team to help make the Rudy Gay trade work.. I think they need someone to take Jose Calderons expiring contract.. Im not sure if Detroit could be a part of that, but they need a veteran pointgaurd to try and give Brandon Knight some guidence on how to play the position and see if it helps.. Or see if he truly is a shooting guard.. But until they have someone try and teach him and show him things..we don’t truly know what he’s capable of.

    • Jan 30, 20138:58 am
      by G

      Reply

      Yeah, Drummond didn’t play much in garbage time. He came out with over 5 minutes left to play and Jerebko played center. Ugh.

  • Jan 30, 20131:32 am
    by piston moribund

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    In the grand scheme of things, the defense was awful.  Bullwinkle looked lost and got beat continuously on defense.  His rotation was terrible.  everyone looked lost out there and the pick and roll defense is the worst I have seen in a while.  Guys were always open.  When you loss by 27 points, that just about sums it up.  When the team is not hittings threes to open the lane, then there is nothing inside.  Someone needs to D up and get some stops.  It doesnt matter who is on the team is there is no effort on D.  This team does not have the firepower to outshoot opponents.  Whenever the team gets down, no one steps up and the team seems to defer to Prince to make the plays.
    When the team was good, there was some communication on the court to cover the rotations but there is none.  Ben and Sheed were always the most vocal ones directing the D.  If you cant stop the team from scoring, then you cant win, quite simple really. 

    • Jan 30, 20139:15 am
      by Crispus

      Reply

      I thought Frank was preaching D. I guess nobody is listening. Do we have to bring back Theo Ratliff and Ben Wallace to get some stops?

  • Jan 30, 20132:35 am
    by Mrshourite

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    Same ol Knight.

  • Jan 30, 20134:31 am
    by gmehl

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    A B- for Frank… SERIOUSLY. As far as i’m concerned when we as a team lose by 27 points then no one should be getting anything higher than a C, especially the coach.

    • Jan 30, 20134:45 am
      by Dan Feldman

      Reply

      I think — by far — the most important thing a coach does is allocate minutes, and Frank played the Pistons’ most effective player the most minutes for the first time in a long time. He deserves credit for that.

      • Jan 30, 20134:58 am
        by ZekeKhaseli

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        He still giving Stuckey too many minutes. BK on the second quarter sat too long

        • Jan 30, 201312:39 pm
          by I HATE FRANK

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          ALL THE TIME!

          I said it yesterday …whether Night plays great or terrible in the first qrt..he sits too long in the 2nd qrt…and so does Monroe….

          Frank waited until the 15 pts lead was pratically gone…then he brings the starts back in…

  • Jan 30, 20135:31 am
    by HorsePower

    Reply

    Following the Pistons is so taxing, I have simply given up. I am sick and tired of the spin and bullshit. You do not lose at home by 27 points to the BUCKS and expect to be a playoff team.
    Our 3 highest paid players start on the bench with the fifth plays for another team (Hamilton). Not drafting C. Anthony or D. Wade was a colossal fuck-up. Made worse by the spin that we had Prince already and had no need for a SF.  Truly a `sliding doors` moment. 
    Then we trade Billups in the thought that Stuckey will lead the team. Another fuck-up highlighted by this week’s event. 
    This team reminds me of the Oakland Raiders with the continuous mismanagement of the players and pay roll. Thanks for the great run that included a championship, but its time Dumars to go. 

  • Jan 30, 20136:12 am
    by Leftos

    Reply

    Everyone keeps saying Drummond should have played more than 28 minutes. Nobody read the part where Drummond at 28 minutes was already exhausted? I mean I love the guy, but what good is he on the court when exhausted?

  • Jan 30, 20136:49 am
    by Corey

    Reply

    It’s time to stop saying drafting Wade or Anthony would mean we have a better team. Sure it would have been better 5 years ago. But by now they’d have forced their way out to a bigger market.

     

    • Jan 30, 20139:27 am
      by MIKEYDE248

      Reply

      Agree with you 100%.  By not drafting either of them we won a championship and made it to the eastern finals 5 years in a row.  Joe must have done something right.

  • Jan 30, 20137:26 am
    by Venice

    Reply

    I better sell Knight in my team in Dream Team app at Fcebook… *sigh

  • Jan 30, 20138:04 am
    by MoATL

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    My gosh do we have the most boring starting lineup in NBA History?! We have zero shot blocking – how many times we have to see a guard or forward get by their man and easily get to rim with no shot blocking or altering a shot from Monroe and Max. Max gives it a shot but at 6’6 its not intimidating. 

     2 positives came from this game. 1- Drummond was a beast as usual. Our best player is a bench player, go figure. 2- JJ had ahown some energy that may put him back in rotation. I’ve been as big of a Daye supporter as anyone but when his shot doesn’t fall, he’s horrible. How many And 1s does he give. Atleast 1 a game. And he has nerve to chastise JJ for one particular play lastnite. 

  • Jan 30, 20139:31 am
    by lisa

    Reply

    It’ time to put this game behind us. This game put the ug in ugly, from start to finish. Even the first quarter wasn’t pretty, we turned the ball over,It just the Buck’s were playing ugly too. We are not a playoff team. I just wonder what Dumars think when he watches games like this?

    • Jan 30, 201311:39 am
      by Jerrific

      Reply

      Sometimes I wonder if Dumars even thinks…

  • Jan 30, 201312:10 pm
    by RalphHau

    Reply

    With regards to your grades, you forgot Stuckey… he definitely deserves an F.  You also were very generous to give Prince a C, he deserves an F.  I made it a point to watch him play last night, his defense was atrocious, he did not block out, his shooting was horrible and mostly stood around, walked up and down the court and kept looking at the coach when the Bucks scored.  Daye was terrible last night, a D was again very generous.  Finally, the coach a B- that’s a laugh.  He can’t substitute, he leaves players that are not producing way too long on the floor.  Stuckey wasn’t producing, he should have been yanked off the floor!

  • Jan 30, 201312:47 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

    Reply

    Knight is more than a spot up shooter…He is a scorer just like Brandon Jennings…but offense again he is not granted the same freedom…you can say what you want…everytime we take the ball out of Knights hand the offense struggles…

    Unless Will Bynum is having an incredible game…

    What scary about how foolish frank is…against orlando he found something that worked with a Knight, Bynum, and English back court… he didnt even go back to that at all against the Bucks…just to see…

    Stuckey either has to start or trade him

  • Jan 30, 20132:38 pm
    by MIKEYDE248

    Reply

    Has Max gotten a grade above a D in the last 10 games or so?

  • Jan 30, 20133:01 pm
    by Mrshourite

    Reply

    I agree that Knight is far more than a spot up shooter. He can attack the basket and change gears similar to how Stuckey use to drive to the hole until somebody told him he had a reliable 3 point shot. Wait a minute…. Basically that’s what Stuckey has turned into, a spot up shooter with a broken jumper beyond repair. Maybe last nights lack of effort and energy by the vets was a statement, maybe that was a type of mutiny on the court. Whatever the case may be; changes need to be made Joe. 

  • Jan 30, 20134:14 pm
    by piston moribund

    Reply

    A B- for Bullwinkle is way way too generous.  He wasn’t just lacking on defense, he looked lost.  He just looks so clumsy with the ball, especially when the double team comes.  For some one who is suppose to be a superior passer, he has horrible vision.  Not being able to hit the open man when the double team comes is just inexcusable.  Getting it stripped on a regular basis is pathetic.  Someone please bust the myth of Bullwinkle.  He has a lot of work to do.  He is going to get schooled by Hibbert and Howard. More fun to watch.
    This team has absolutely no direction.  Seems like everyone is waiting for a trade to come down.  Max is nonexistent, Stuckey has checked out….
    Please, oh please….if only for a little change…..in the discussions…. 

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