Comments on: Pistons are 7-20 again, but they aren’t better

By: Scott Free

Scott Free — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:24:01 +0000

Ben Gordon: Difference Maker lol

By: Big Rick

Big Rick — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:57:53 +0000

Wow! It really is bad. Reading this comment section today brought my spirits down, but the reality is most of what you guy are saying is true. As a fan you have to wonder what our agenda is, or if they even have one becuase it’s not apparent at all.

By: tarsier

tarsier — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:53:22 +0000

Lost in the fact that the Pistons started 4-20 before going 21-21 is the fact that the schedule was much harder for those first 24 than the last 42. A normal schedule would put a team between those two extremes.

By: MIKEYDE248

MIKEYDE248 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:49:57 +0000

If you looked at the talent on this team and compared it with the rest of the league, you would probably say they are in the middle of the pack, so I think it comes down to coaching as the #1 problem.

By: MIKEYDE248

MIKEYDE248 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:38:33 +0000

Never been a Phil Jackson fan, so I don’t think he could coach them to .500 either. When has he ever taken young talent and improved them? He’s only succeeded in taking great talent and dealing with their egos.

Most of the blame has to go back on Frank, just by the players he puts on the floor. Daye, CV, Corey and Max would all me back-up players at best on any other team in the league. Unless we are showcasing them for trades, they should all be cheerleaders for the better players.

By: Otis

Otis — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:38:19 +0000

Lawrence Frank is useless, but he’s third on this team’s list of problems: 1) Joe Dumars; 2) nowhere near enough talent on the roster (Joe’s fault, naturally); 3) Coach Frank.

By: Otis

Otis — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:35:12 +0000

Cool. They added two top rookies, ditched Ben Gordon (at a hefty cost), had a full offseason and training camp, and are in their second year under the same head coach… and they’re back to the same 7-20 start as last season. You superfans need to stop kidding yourself.

And isolating the soft part of your schedule, after a truly abysmal start, is meaningless. So they played .500 ball for the equivalent of half a season during which a good portion of the league was either in tank mode or resting their veterans for the playoffs. They would have been better off making a deadline deal that would have reduced their hollow win total and brought back something to help the team’s future.

And where’s all that momentum got us this year? If that .500 stretch meant a damn thing, we wouldn’t have regressed to the same sorry record we had through last year’s first 27 games. Stop kidding yourselves, people. This team is a mess and needs serious rearrangement.

By: Otis

Otis — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:27:44 +0000

LOL Keep watching.

This team was “one or two players away” three seasons ago. They’ve added five or six rotation quality players since there, and the results are the same. This roster is a disaster.

By: Crispus

Crispus — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:41:16 +0000

I had a good laugh imagining Frank waving his arms wildly and flailing his suit coat as he talked about “We haven’t seen the result” and “peeling the onion back”.

It’s hard to tell if Frank is being stubborn, just doesn’t get it, or is receiving secret advice from Joe D. Maybe they are tanking (I hope not) and maybe they are trying desperately to keep the vets happy and productive for trade offers (I’d be fine with this if we trade only for picks or cash and can develop the youngsters in the back half of the season). But if there’s no trades and only mediocrity it’ll be a long shameful season. Frank doesn’t necessarily have all the talent he needs to win consistently, but he has a lot of hungry young guys who could at least lose with heart and hustle (weird cliche I know, but I think you know what I mean – think this year’s Bobcats).

I’d like to see Drummond and Monroe become a tandem, like Randolph and Gasol. I’d like to see Jerebko and English and Knight running up and down the court. I want to see if Charlie V and Daye can put up points if they are given free reign to shoot. Right now we don’t get to see any of that, just some opaque and tedious process that seems to drain all the energy out of everything.

By: Tom Y.

Tom Y. — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:02:45 +0000

This is almost the same roster that played .500 ball after the 20-4 start last season, except they added two of the best of rookies of their class, two of their core players have worked real hard to take a step forward over the summer and Tayshaun is having a better year. And Phil Jackson couldn’t coach that to the same .500 ball they ended last season with?