Comments on: Joe Dumars: ‘A lot of nights, we need Brandon (Knight) to score’ http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 23 May 2013 22:47:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Big Rick http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/comment-page-1/#comment-104723 Big Rick Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:08:22 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12153#comment-104723 Exactly Otis. Just the point I was trying to make the oher day when I gave my Christmas/Wish list for point guards I would like to have on our roster. I actually backed off that statement in sayig that if we do not get that "traditional point guard" then we need that type of player with a pass first mentality that has good floor vision and can set others up and put them in their sweet spots on the floor. This is especially important when you have a young team and it is crucial to the developmnt of our big men. As of now we don't have that type of player on our team. They will try to make Knight our PG of the future which is not in the best interest of the talent that we have. True, he is still young and he has room to grow. But I don't think that they should invest 3 to 4 more years in trying to develop him as a PG while passing up on more than capable facilitators at the same position. Exactly Otis. Just the point I was trying to make the oher day when I gave my Christmas/Wish list for point guards I would like to have on our roster. I actually backed off that statement in sayig that if we do not get that “traditional point guard” then we need that type of player with a pass first mentality that has good floor vision and can set others up and put them in their sweet spots on the floor. This is especially important when you have a young team and it is crucial to the developmnt of our big men. As of now we don’t have that type of player on our team. They will try to make Knight our PG of the future which is not in the best interest of the talent that we have. True, he is still young and he has room to grow. But I don’t think that they should invest 3 to 4 more years in trying to develop him as a PG while passing up on more than capable facilitators at the same position.

]]> By: Otis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/comment-page-1/#comment-104674 Otis Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:58:43 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12153#comment-104674 Scoring is the only thing he does well. He should not be asked/allowed to run an NBA offense. This team needs someone not named Greg Monroe who makes his teammates better. It's no wonder this team is spinning its wheels. The idea of a "pure point guard" may be overrated because they are so rare, but how about a player who is constitutionally capable of running the offense? Is that too much to ask? This is not a small problem, and no evidence suggests it's going to correct itself.  Scoring is the only thing he does well. He should not be asked/allowed to run an NBA offense. This team needs someone not named Greg Monroe who makes his teammates better. It’s no wonder this team is spinning its wheels. The idea of a “pure point guard” may be overrated because they are so rare, but how about a player who is constitutionally capable of running the offense? Is that too much to ask?

This is not a small problem, and no evidence suggests it’s going to correct itself. 

]]> By: frankie d http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/comment-page-1/#comment-104669 frankie d Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:14:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12153#comment-104669 imho, knight's problem this year is another example of frank making a situation more complex than need be. by the end of last season, it appeared that knight and stuckey were working towards a system where they essentially shared PG duties. and while there were certainly speed bumps along the way, knight appeared to be making slow but steady progress - as a player mainly, but also as a "point guard" - and the pistons appeared to be moving towards an interesting set up that featured 2 combo guards and not a traditional PG/SG pairing. but, for whatever reason, there has been a clear move by the coaching staff to move knight towards a more pure PG role - it started in summer league and was in full force once the season started - and the results have not been good. knight is simply not ready to assume that role and he's not filled it well. stuckey is most definitely not a traditional nba SG who can spot up and knock down 3 pointers and he got off to a horrendous slump. instead of fixing something that appeared to be organically settling into its own comfort zone, frank has managed to disrupt his entire starting backcourt, by trying to make each player into something he is not.  instead of letting the two players do what they do well and compliment each other, he's tried to make them play the way he needs them to play, in his system. frank has a system, he expects the players to fit into that system, regardless of their skills and inclinations. what he's done to the backcourt is a perfect example of the tendency.  imho, knight’s problem this year is another example of frank making a situation more complex than need be.
by the end of last season, it appeared that knight and stuckey were working towards a system where they essentially shared PG duties. and while there were certainly speed bumps along the way, knight appeared to be making slow but steady progress – as a player mainly, but also as a “point guard” – and the pistons appeared to be moving towards an interesting set up that featured 2 combo guards and not a traditional PG/SG pairing.
but, for whatever reason, there has been a clear move by the coaching staff to move knight towards a more pure PG role – it started in summer league and was in full force once the season started – and the results have not been good.
knight is simply not ready to assume that role and he’s not filled it well.
stuckey is most definitely not a traditional nba SG who can spot up and knock down 3 pointers and he got off to a horrendous slump.
instead of fixing something that appeared to be organically settling into its own comfort zone, frank has managed to disrupt his entire starting backcourt, by trying to make each player into something he is not.  instead of letting the two players do what they do well and compliment each other, he’s tried to make them play the way he needs them to play, in his system.
frank has a system, he expects the players to fit into that system, regardless of their skills and inclinations.
what he’s done to the backcourt is a perfect example of the tendency. 

]]> By: I HATE FRANK http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/comment-page-1/#comment-104667 I HATE FRANK Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:03:24 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12153#comment-104667 I've been saying it since last year.... I’ve been saying it since last year….

]]> By: George http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12/joe-dumars-a-lot-of-nights-we-need-brandon-knight-to-score/comment-page-1/#comment-104662 George Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:25:45 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=12153#comment-104662 I am not saying I believe this, but do guys ever wonder if Knight looks at Kyrie Irving's stats and thinks he should be matching them? Lets face it, we just don't have enough "go-to" scorers, so I guess we need Knight to chuck 15 shots a night, but I wonder if we had a more natural passer, we wouldn't have that problem.  I sometimes wonder if Knight is basically a Jason Terry-Louis Williams style of player...a small hybrid guard who is better as a 6th man. This may sound crazy, but besides trying to sign a free agent or trade for some scorers, should we look into drafting a guy like Michael Carter-Williams.  He is a tall pg (height 6'5 -6'6), is a natural passer, an excellent defender, but isn't the best shooter.  I could see him being like  Jason Kidd or Rondo in that his natural passing instincts and defense will offset his shooting issues.  He will make everyone around him better.  To a lesser extent, I also like Trey Burke.  He looks like he could be a Stephen Curry-lite type pg.  I am not saying I believe this, but do guys ever wonder if Knight looks at Kyrie Irving’s stats and thinks he should be matching them?

Lets face it, we just don’t have enough “go-to” scorers, so I guess we need Knight to chuck 15 shots a night, but I wonder if we had a more natural passer, we wouldn’t have that problem.  I sometimes wonder if Knight is basically a Jason Terry-Louis Williams style of player…a small hybrid guard who is better as a 6th man.

This may sound crazy, but besides trying to sign a free agent or trade for some scorers, should we look into drafting a guy like Michael Carter-Williams.  He is a tall pg (height 6’5 -6’6), is a natural passer, an excellent defender, but isn’t the best shooter.  I could see him being like  Jason Kidd or Rondo in that his natural passing instincts and defense will offset his shooting issues.  He will make everyone around him better.  To a lesser extent, I also like Trey Burke.  He looks like he could be a Stephen Curry-lite type pg. 

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