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  • Teams: Golden State Warriors (10-7) at Detroit Pistons (6-13)
  • Date: December 5, 2012
  • Time: 7:30 p.m.
  • Television: FSD

What to look for

With the Golden State Warriors set to make their lone appearance of the season at the Palace of Auburn Hills tonight, Piston Powered reached out to Jack Winter of Warriors World to get his take on the Warriors.

Worth noting: Patrick Hayes submitted his thoughts about the Pistons over at Warriors World and the post can be found here.

The Warriors seem to be much improved this season despite Andrew Bogut’s limited minutes played this season before finally getting shut down indefinitely. How have the Warriors done this?

The Warriors owe their early success to two areas in which Bogut was supposed to and will eventually help them the most, defense and rebounding.  Golden State ranks 13th in the league in defensive rating by allowing 101.1 points per 100 possessions, a feat hardly worthy of traditional heavyweights like Chicago and Boston but a major step in the right direction for a team that finished 27th in the same category last season.  And it’s hardly happenstance that their almost-prowess on that end coincides with a huge, huge spike on the glass; the Warriors are the NBA’s best defensive rebounding team this season after finishing dead last in 2011-2012.  Talk about a turnaround.

Golden State was expected to improve in both areas with Bogut manning the paint, but he’s played a grand total of 73 minutes for the Warriors this season.  And even if he was healthy, such a steep ascent and general culture change on the defensive end would still be met with at least slight surprise.  This has never been an organization known for making hay defensively, but Mark Jackson’s already changed that just a month into his second season as head coach.  When the Aussie returns, don’t be surprised if the ‘Dubs take another step up the defensive ranks and Golden State’s winning ways continue.

Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson are quite possibly the best young backcourt in the NBA, and yet there are times where they just look underwhelming. Thoughts?

What is the best attribute of both Curry and Thompson? Absolutely rare and deadly shooting acumen from the perimeter.  These are two of basketball’s purest marksmen, with lightning quick and effortless releases combined with supreme balance and deft touch.

The problem for both thus far this season is that their on-court results haven’t aligned with that rightful reputation.  Curry is shooting just 41.8% from the floor and Thompson has been even worse, at 37.5% overall and a dreadful 32.2% from three-point range.  Part of that has to do with new roles that mean more responsibility and aggression off the dribble.  Curry, in particular, has struggled finishing in the basket area more than anywhere else.

Another, potentially more damning issue? Both these guys are best playing without the ball, coming off pin-downs, curling around screens, and flaring to the wing or corner to catch-and-shoot.  It’s likely both will get better playing as creators, and Golden State definitely needs them too presently and long-term to reach their offensive ceiling.  Until then, the acquisition of Jarrett Jack looks more important than anyone anticipated, as Jackson routinely plays a three-guard lineup to get his best shooters going in the scoring column.

Andrew Bogut, Carl Landry and Jarret Jack were acquired prior to the start of this season. Which player has been the best out of the three so far in this relatively young season?

Bogut’s been AWOL for the vast majority of the season so he’s out of the running, but that doesn’t make the choice here any easier.  Both Landry and Jack have been awesome for the Warriors so far, each providing a huge spark off the bench offensively and selling the team on a new identity of toughness and accountability.

Jack gives the team some much-needed offensive flexibility in the wake of Brandon Rush’s season-ending injury in the opener.  He allows Curry to slide off-ball to shooting guard for several minutes a game, and works especially well in concert with Curry and Thompson.  Jack can defend two backcourt spots for the most part, too, and has even served as a sometimes isolation scorer.

Landry, meanwhile, might be the league’s most underrated performer this season.  He’s been a devastating scorer by any measure, shooting a red-hot 57% from the field despite a lot of one-on-one opportunities and registering a 20.77 PER.  He’s even been better defensively than expected, allowing Jackson to play he and David Lee together during Bogut’s extended absence.

Though I wouldn’t know from experience, this feels like a parent being asked to choose their favorite child: every answer is right but every answer is wrong, too.  Gun to my head, it’s Landry by the smallest of margins, but each has easily been among the league’s best offseason acquisitions.

The winner of the game will be…

Golden State.  The Warriors have bounced back strong after every loss this season, only dropping two in a row in an overtime loss to Denver on November 10th.  After a disappointing loss last night, Jackson will have this team ultra-focused to begin this long, very important road trip, and that means a GS win on the road.  It won’t be easy, though; Detroit’s been a different team since Kyle Singler took Rodney Stuckey’s place as a starter.

Read about the Warriors

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59 Comments

  • [...] Scope the Oppostion: Piston Powered. By the way, Warriors World’s very own Jack Winter answered questions about the game over at Piston Powered, you can find the post here. [...]

  • Dec 5, 20126:58 pm
    by frankie d

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    really limed ezeli as a pistons draft choice.  thought it was worth getting a late first to try and draft him.  his numbers are  not as nice as drummond’s but they are 

  • Dec 5, 20127:57 pm
    by Vince

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    Get Knight out of the game ASAP.

  • Dec 5, 20127:58 pm
    by Vince

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    And keep Dre in, he’s killing it

  • Dec 5, 20128:01 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    HOLY CRAP!!! Monroe and Drummond getting MINUTES TOGETHER!!!!

    I Might end up I Love Frank ..probably not 

  • Dec 5, 20128:05 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Proud of Drummond

  • Dec 5, 20128:10 pm
    by Remy Porsella

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    Wow, I’ve been watching every game this season, and that was the best stretch of basketball I’ve seen Drummond play. Other than the mistake on Ezeli and the Goaltend on the free throw. He really brought us back in the game, in what looked to be a blowout in the making.

  • Dec 5, 20128:16 pm
    by Vince

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    New record for most airballs by a team in a half?

  • Dec 5, 20128:29 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    against the zone it would great to see English and singler in the game together

  • Dec 5, 20128:39 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    charlie take a split second and set your feet

  • Dec 5, 20128:45 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    most dunks from Drummond in a regular season game…. good job Dre

  • Dec 5, 20128:46 pm
    by Shaun

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    Refs want GS to win this one

  • Dec 5, 20128:56 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Knight and Stuckey Struggling, but atleast they are playing very good defense… I have to believe one of them or singler will get it going

  • Dec 5, 20129:08 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    so much for the very good defense

  • Dec 5, 20129:14 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    wow!

  • Dec 5, 20129:16 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    welp! it was a nice home room… dont know what happen to our backcourt, and i dont know what happen to Drummond… but oh well

  • Dec 5, 20129:21 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    FRANK IT WAS OUR BALL!!!!

  • Dec 5, 20129:24 pm
    by Vince

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    These GS commentators mustn’t watch much basketball, calling a Flagrant 2 on Maggette for that? Common guys, he didn’t do it on purpose, no intent behind it and he helped Barnes up straight afterwards.

  • Dec 5, 20129:28 pm
    by Vince

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    Wow. Just wow. The old Pistons are back.

  • Dec 5, 20129:29 pm
    by domnick

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    too many fouls given up… what the hell

  • Dec 5, 20129:30 pm
    by Vince

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    Well said by the commentators, GS scored 40 in the first half, they just dropped 39 in the third quarter alone. This is ridiculous. Where is the D? Wheres Dre? Where are the three point threats and hustling players? Right. They’re all riding the pine. God Damn IT FRANK.

  • Dec 5, 20129:30 pm
    by Jinzzy

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    golden state is toying with us now sh….

  • Dec 5, 20129:35 pm
    by Rodman4Life

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    This is embarrassing.  I’m getting tired of Frank not doing anything while we’re getting throttled.  If they play this poorly, I’ll stop watching this team.  I have better things to do with my time than watch a bunch of undisciplined clowns masquerading around as NBA players!!! Ridiculous!

  • Dec 5, 20129:35 pm
    by Shaun

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    Jenkins…. Really. Who else is going to make threes on there team?!?!

  • Dec 5, 20129:37 pm
    by Vince

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    AAAAANDDREEEEEEEE DRUMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOND!!!!!!

    • Dec 5, 20129:39 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      he was the only reason we didnt get blown out in the first half, not he the only reason we arent getting blown out in the 2nd half…

  • Dec 5, 20129:38 pm
    by Shaun

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    Drummond!!!!!

  • Dec 5, 20129:44 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    ZONE AGAINST A SHOOTING TEAM?

  • Dec 5, 20129:47 pm
    by Shaun

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    Charlie V deffense

  • Dec 5, 20129:47 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    im not going to blame Frank for this one… Warriors are just a better team..

    But the Decision in the 2nd half to wait soo long to put Drummond in the game… I question…

    I question, playing ZONE DEFENSE! against that back court…

    I question, Why No English against thier ZONE?

    I question, Why Charlie playing soo many minutes?

    other than those things… Frank did a great job 

  • Dec 5, 20129:50 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Knight was HORRIBLE TONITE

  • Dec 5, 20129:53 pm
    by Patrick Hayes

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    Of all the things that get picked apart in Knight’s game, I’m most thoroughly frustrated with his defense. There are legit reasons he struggles as a PG — youth, learning how to play the position differently than he’s ever been asked to, etc. There’s zero excuse for how poor he plays defensively.

    • Dec 5, 201210:47 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      i agree completely , it looked like mentally he was not engaged at all… he has played other high level pg’s and not look this bad

  • Dec 5, 20129:54 pm
    by Patrick Hayes

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    Also … Draymond Green supposedly got 40 tickets for people for tonight’s game. It looks like Green’s contingent might account for about 30 percent of the total number of people in the building.

  • Dec 5, 20129:54 pm
    by Vince

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    Good good. Lee and Thompson are in a few of my fantasy teams. Got some good production from them tonight.

  • Dec 5, 20129:55 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    hack a drummond

  • Dec 5, 20129:57 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Proud of the Pistons

  • Dec 5, 20129:58 pm
    by Jinzzy

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    ref wtfrank

     

  • Dec 5, 201210:00 pm
    by domnick

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    we are still in the game. finally.. we have our 3s going in!

  • Dec 5, 201210:00 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    brandon what the hell was that???

  • Dec 5, 201210:03 pm
    by domnick

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    bk sucks!

    • Dec 5, 201210:05 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      he was poor bad tonight F-

      • Dec 5, 201210:08 pm
        by Vince

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        Screw the F – give him a Z.

  • Dec 5, 201210:03 pm
    by Vince

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    IF THIS DOESN’T PROVE DRE SHOULD START, THEN I QUIT.

    • Dec 5, 201210:07 pm
      by Trysdor

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      But….but….but…WHAT ABOUT CONTRACT YEAR JASON MAXIELL?!

      • Dec 5, 201210:09 pm
        by Vince

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        David Lee is laughing right now. Max couldn’t do anything against him.

  • Dec 5, 201210:04 pm
    by Vic

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    Please get us a pg – Michael carter Williams or Marcus Smart this draft.

  • Dec 5, 201210:06 pm
    by Rodman4Life

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    what the hell is brandon knight doing?  He needs some quality time on the sidelines.  What a step backwards guys!

  • Dec 5, 201210:07 pm
    by Vince

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    GS Starting Backcourt 49 – 7 DP Starting Backcourt

    • Dec 5, 201210:20 pm
      by Stuckey and Whoever

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      man that is horrible

  • Dec 5, 201210:09 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    end of the day 19 pts from Klay thompson in the 3rd qrt killed us, They just made better adjustment kudos to Mark Jackson

    • Dec 5, 201210:21 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      They didn’t really make any adjustments, they’re just way better. Frank made the one adjustment everyone has been screaming at him to make — he played Drummond legit minutes tonight, and hopefully he learned he should do that permanently.

      But short of demanding better players, there’s not a whole lot of other adjustments he can make. A significant portion of this roster is guys who will not help you win games. 

  • Dec 5, 201210:09 pm
    by Shaun

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    Bk needs some bench for a few weeks, maybe the rest of the season. He doesnt fit with this team.

    • Dec 5, 201210:12 pm
      by Trysdor

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      For a guy with such a “high basketball IQ,” he pretty much plays the sloppiest rendition of a “point guard” I’ve ever seen. 

    • Dec 5, 201210:13 pm
      by I HATE FRANK

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      no he doesnt he needs to play in an uptempo offense

  • Dec 5, 201210:12 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Brandon was BAD!!!!!, and Singler WAS BAD!!!!….Monroe did not show up!!!

    cant win like that… but Drummond produces in quality minutes…+17  

  • Dec 5, 201210:24 pm
    by I HATE FRANK

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    Dont know what was going on with Knight this game, first game where he just look totally out classed, … i wanna give him the benefit of a doubt if he was playing hurt… but terrible…

    And for the firs time…we saw what happens if Singer isnt scoring, Thompson had a field day with Singler running off of screens…

    But we had a change towards the End, but Knight was soo out of sink…

    Im not upset, because Drummond play was encouraging….

    Would have liked English and Daye to get some shots against that Zone defense tho 

  • Dec 5, 201210:26 pm
    by Vic

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    We need someone that can control the game without scoring. Right now Tayshaun is the only person that can control the game on our team. Knight is Vinne Johnson. Stuckey is a little better but all he can do is get to the line. Please get us a pg with the natural talent to control the game and get people involved.

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