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Will Bynum apparently criticizing Lawrence Frank, too

Tayshaun Prince, to the shock of no one, became the first Pistons player this season to criticize Lawrence Frank. Well, Will Bynum is apparently joining the party. Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press:

After saying he wished Singler were still on the second unit because he enjoyed playing with him, Bynum told the Free Press: "I’m having to adjust to everybody. I’m playing with so many different people. First I go from not playing with (Rodney) Stuckey to playing with Stuckey every day. I go from playing with Kyle all the time to never playing with Kyle. I’m playing with Tayshaun (Prince). Early on I was playing with Brandon (Knight) and I never played with him in two years since I’ve been here. It’s all over the place right now."

Combine that comment with Prince questioning the substitution pattern and time-out usage of coach Lawrence Frank during the pathetic third quarter of Wednesday night’s 94-80 debacle against the Magic, and we have reached familiar territory when it comes to the Pistons.

Things haven’t reached the point of no return, but it’s obvious as the losses mount that players are beginning to publicly question Frank’s decision-making process.

Tone is everything here. Bynum might have just been explaining the downside of lineup decisions he supports in sum. But I’ll trust Ellis, who clearly wrote that Bynum was questioning Frank.

Frank has already lost the fans. He’s beginning to lose the traditional media. I don’t know whether he’s lost the players, but he appears headed in that direction.

29 Comments

  • Nov 23, 201211:17 am
    by bugsygod

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    thats will bynum, not Maxiel

    • Nov 23, 201212:28 pm
      by Dan Feldman

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      My bad. Working on something else on Maxiell and had him on my mind when I wrote the headline. Corrected now. Thanks.

      • Nov 23, 201212:42 pm
        by XstreamINsanity

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        Not fully corrected, or it wasn’t updated fully yet.  Maxiell’s name is in the article three times.

  • Nov 23, 201211:18 am
    by Jacob

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    I’m confused….the post said Maxiell but the quotes were attributed to Bynum in the text.

    • Nov 23, 201211:46 am
      by revken

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      The quote doesn’t make any sense coming from Maxiell, because he played with Stuckey and Knight as a starter last year.  So it has to be coming from Bynum, and I can see why he’d be frustrated by the changes – especially since he’s a guy who wants the ball in his hands, and Stuckey and Knight play that same role.  On the other hand, he’s not been playing all that well …

  • Nov 23, 201211:19 am
    by Brian S

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    Me thinks Will should be careful as he should be the #1 option to lose his rotation spot altogether… He and sticker can’t be effective togethePlay lay English!!

    • Nov 23, 201211:19 am
      by Brian S

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      Damn auto correct got me…

  • Nov 23, 201211:34 am
    by I HATE FRANK

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    we all saw this coming, he’s not a winning coach, he’s nit a players coach, he is all about his system and its not working

    • Nov 23, 20121:48 pm
      by vic

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      no only a couple people saw it coming

  • Nov 23, 201211:34 am
    by Piston Heel

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    Is this will or Jason but if it is Jason he need to shut the hell up cause frank is the only coach in the nba that gave or DID give him a starting spot. I mean you would have to figure that the team is starting to turn on the coach now if you aint winning who elese are you gonna blame? things are not gonna be peaches and cream with a 2-11 record but oh well if they like it I love it.

  • Nov 23, 201211:58 am
    by bugsygod

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    maxiel, daye, bynum, maggette, charlie, will all not be here next year.  Now if they are dominating someone in practice and it shows on the floor, then yes they should be getting time.  But if none of those guys presents a SUPER upgrade to the young player behind them…..DRUMMOND, ENGLISH, SLAVA, MIDDLETON, then that vets minutes should be the ones monitored and reduced.  WE need to see if the young guys can play.  What do we do go into the offseason, not knowing if drummonds production can hold up over 30minutes?  Can we determine if slava is just 6 hard fouls or can he stay on the floor and provide a defensive presence without fouling?  Can we see if english and middleton can make open shots consitently?  Do we go into next year with these questions not answered? 
    NOW that would be a failure for the entire orginazation! FRUSTRATED! 
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    What is Franks process for the young guys??  Wait till next year to see if they can play?  Lets say english is really an inconsistent shooter and gets beat horribly on defense by SF’s, BUT he plays great defense on sg’s, so now we know what he needs to work on in the off season and what the team has in english.  I mean its pretty obvious we are not making the playoffs this year.  So what is the goals now this year?? 

    • Nov 23, 20121:37 pm
      by MrBlockedShot

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      Imho the goal, from the point of view of the fans, is mostly one: have a watchable team for every game. Wins doesn’ t matter nowadays as we are not competitive for the moment. Add to that rookies development and you will have a nice attendance at the Palace every night. That would make management happy too for sure, lol.
       

  • Nov 23, 20121:23 pm
    by MrBlockedShot

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    Well, Bynum can’t complain like this imho. This guy is playing at his worst as a Piston and is getting minutes he doesn’t deserve at all. By the numbers you can tell:  .37 FG% and .25 from beyond the arch. Add an assist/turnover ratio of 32/17 and a height mismatch at the defense every night…and what we have? In addition he’s been too selfish and he always wants the ball on his hands all the time. His only credit has been giving some balls to Drummond during the preseason (as if it was enough to earn minutes…), but now not even those lob passes are happening anymore. If only English could earn more minutes he probably would make the most of them. Noway we waste minutes in Bynum at the expense of English or Middleton.

  • Nov 23, 20121:51 pm
    by vic

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    This is what Frank gets for coaching for politics and system and not coaching to win. 
    When asked about moving Stuckey – “What about Will Bynum?”
    Now the guy who’s playing horribly and really shouldn’t even be playing (especially with Stuckey in the 2nd unit) is complaining about him. 

  • Nov 23, 20122:38 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    It’s time to fire this clown…I officially knew he was a bad coach when he put Singler in the starting line-up…

    • Nov 26, 20129:50 am
      by Patrick Hayes

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      You knew he was a bad coach for making the only reasonable move that he’s made so far?

  • Nov 23, 20123:16 pm
    by Otis

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    I always did find it funny that 90% of the time Frank completely segregates the first and second units. At first it bothered me because the first unit was awful, but I didn’t entirely mind because the second unit played the best basketball I’ve seen in this town since Chauncey was traded. Now it bothers me because it’s just plain uncreative, and as Bynum points out, it’s going to hurt the team’s cohesion. It’s harder to let your best five players finish the game when they’re not familiar with each other.

    I’m in favor of a rotation that doesn’t go beyond nine guys. Eight would be ideal if you’ve got the personnel, which this team obviously does not. Ten is stretching it a little thin, but that’s also a product of the team, since somehow four years into the “rebuilding” process there are hardly any players here capable of shouldering a heavy burden night-in and night-out.

    Dumars and Coach Frank should not be allowed to call the shots here. The team is a godawful mess, it’s not moving in the right direction, and neither one of them has the team’s best interest in mind. They’re both too desperate for the illusion of progress to fix this. Frank should be developing the guys who have a future here without regard to wins and losses, because once again the season is over in the first month. And Dumars should resign and issue a letter of apology, but I’d settle for shaking up the roster in a very big way and making bold moves instead of waiting for this uninspiring young core of marginally talented players to slowly develop.

    • Nov 23, 20124:34 pm
      by Max

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      If Dumars was desperate as you say for the illusion of progress than he would shake things up and make some trades.   Instead, if you take him at his word, he says he has been unwilling to make short term moves that would lead to more wins in the present but would damage the future.   His words are decidedly not desperate and neither are his actions. 

      • Nov 26, 20129:43 am
        by labatts

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        then explain the magette trade.

        • Nov 27, 201210:06 am
          by Max

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          Magette is a long term move. 

          • Nov 27, 201210:07 am
            by Patrick Hayes

            Giving up a future asset, especially one that could be a lottery pick, just to shed salary is the opposite of a long-term move.

          • Nov 27, 201210:09 am
            by Max

            Not when it opens up lots of cap space and flexibility that could be worth a lot more than the draft pick. 

  • Nov 23, 20124:46 pm
    by frankie d

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    i guess it is better late than never, regarding the local sports writers finally catching up with things that some of us fans have been saying for a long time.
    i only read the goodwill article because of the link above.  typically, there is little, if anything, their articles on the pistons worth reading.  this article was marginally better.
    for instance, what adjustments did orlando make the last couple of games that seemed to stall detroit’s offense and become more effective against the defense?
    it shouldn’t be that hard to find out.  they did something, as was very obvious to anyone watching the games.
    how about asking the coaches? the players? a scout? an anonymous assistant coach who could explain the subtle changes that were made?
    the fact that the article mentions very general adjustments, but then assumes that fans are to dumb or disinterested to explain those adjustments, is exactly what is wrong with the local sports media scene.
    and a very big reason that a guy like dumars can go for years, making horrible decisions and still not have local writers question him about specific moves and ask for explanations.
    and while the coaches have been gently criticized, after they’ve left town, very little analysis of what they did, while they were in the head coaches chair, is ever really done.  detroit nba writers have been horrible for years.
    again, a welcome change, but way too little and certainly too late.
    hopefully, it is a start. 

    • Nov 23, 20127:22 pm
      by MNM

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      I would take anything Goodwill (and Ellis for that matter) says with a grain of salt.. Goodwill likes Charlie V and wont admit that he is awful… He’ll tell his grandkids someday about the time he trained in a boxing gym with Charlie.

  • Nov 23, 20126:41 pm
    by Tristan

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    So we have just had three coaches in a row now who have no idea what they’re doing?  The bottom line is that this team just isn’t very talented.  Monroe is very good, and everyone else is either garbage or a project.  The Pistons are losing because the players aren’t making plays, because they aren’t very good.

  • Nov 23, 20127:17 pm
    by MNM

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    https://twitter.com/vincent_ellis56
      – “Prince and Bynum said I misinterpreted their comments and they are not questioning Frank’s substitution patterns.”  

  • Nov 23, 20127:23 pm
    by Vance

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    Frank can not coach, he put the craziest line-ups out on the court. He is not playing his best players and he is losing the locker room. The Team has talent; Charlie V and Daye are scorers and they want to play, but its hard to give a full effort when the coach don’t play you or give you few minutes.  I see another 25 and 57 season. 

    • Nov 24, 20123:19 am
      by James Jones

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      Only thing Charlie V and Daye should be doing is keeping the Gatorade glasses fully for the guys who can actually play basketball.
       
      CV and Daye are awful.  Daye is out of the league in 1 to 2 years.

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