Comments on: Why do Lawrence Frank teams start seasons so slowly?

By: Max

Max — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:00:10 +0000

Don’t mean to be hissy but again, huh? I just reread my post and I didn’t even mention Frank’s name. My post regarded a general principle and wasn’t even Pistons related.

By: rick

rick — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:44:45 +0000

They may not have the best talent but they have more than enough that they should not be 0-7. No matter how you want to slice it they should not be this bad. They have guys that if they were coached to their abilities that they may stand out but as it is we have a system style coach who believes in his system no matter what. From the words of Katt Williams” You keep trying shit and it dont work and you keep trying shit til it dont work”, when will you realize that you need to adapt yourself to what you have and go from there. I also think its easier now than the beginning of the season to say that they wot win this amount vs that amount because of what you see. I see a coach who couldnt teach a dog to jump through hoops a much less a pro basketball team to prominence.

By: rick

rick — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:38:22 +0000

Obviously you didnt go back and read what you said as it pertains to Frank when arguing about Frank and his style. Not bashing you just stated that I didnt think you got contextual aspect of what he was saying. Nothing more or less. No need to get all hissy about nothing.

By: anotherchris

anotherchris — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:05:46 +0000

I like this post.

Lawrence Frank has not yet coached the Detroit Pistons for a full 82 regular season games. Already, somewhat predictably, many fans want to judge him using shortsighted and impatient definitions of success.

The Pistons do not have a good roster. It does not have balance. As pointed out in another thread ‘Unfortunately for Lawrence Frank, his players have a relatively low collective IQ’. Anyone who believed the Pistons had a chance at anything more than 35 wins in the very competitive NBA was dreaming. The greatest coaches could not get these guys to win more than 40 games.

To those unhappy with Andre Drummond’s playing time- I think he has been getting good minutes. He will slowly get more as the season goes on- similar to what happened with Munroe and Knight.

I will concede some dissapointment with the last offseason. Although he has started well, I dont think it is really acceptable to have Will Bynum as your backup PG. I dont think the current players suit each other.

By: Quin

Quin — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:56:16 +0000

I mean that cockiness. That swagger (I know, I’m tired of that word too). Joe D is the antithesis to the cocky, in-your-face player. But those dudes, even in draft picks, are the ones coming into the league doing something.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:24:47 +0000

what absurd logic. Would Jackson be what he is without MJ/Shaq/Kobe? Pop without Duncan? Coaches, good ones and bad ones, need talent to win. So frank doesn’t get any credit for a team with good talent winning, but he gets all the blame when teams with bad rosters don’t win? Please.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:18:43 +0000

What is baseball?

By: Trent

Trent — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:01:54 +0000

Trade Daye and a second rounder for Timothy Mozgov.

By: frankie d

frankie d — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:39:31 +0000

sure, each coach is his own person with his own style, but i do think you see certain similarities in the pop and larry brown styles. imho, both brown and popovich favor fairly simple schemes that rely on great execution. brown’s pistons didn’t do anything fancy both they just did it well enough to win. same thing with most of brown’s teams.
frankly, watching this year’s pistons, i’m watching what the team is doing, especially offensively, and just hoping that they would simplify matters. instead of doing a few things that cater to the player’s strengths, the team is doing a bunch of stuff that often takes the players out of their best areas.
for example, i see no reason to ever have stuckey spotting up for 3 pointers. if he has to take that shot, at times, fine. but to run plays that specifically set him up for a spot up 3 pointer.
just plain dumb, imho.
and often, monroe receives the ball at the elbow of the lane, looking to create offense, but most times, it’s after the shot clock has run down to 6 or 7 seconds or less. why not just get the ball to him, let him execute and run the offense through him, initially, without a whole series of picks and passes that get you to that simple point.

especially for this team, simple would be better.

By: T MC

T MC — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:30:03 +0000

How about Zeke replacing Joe? He’ll get talent here certainly!
Then Jerry Sloan or Stan Van Gunfy replacing Frank