Comments on: This is the worst start in Pistons history http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Thu, 23 May 2013 06:25:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94755 tarsier Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:05:52 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94755 If a PG is brought in to mentor Knight, he better not cost any assets. An expiring PG for Maxiell or Maggette would be a reasonable trade. But Ridnour is not that. So all I can think of as an acceptable deal would be something along the lines of Prince+Middleton/English (second player included to not go over 15 players on roster, youth/potential of throw-in makes up for Prince having one more year on his deal than the guys coming back) for Ridnour+Cunningham. I guess I'd be pretty ambivalent about that deal. If a PG is brought in to mentor Knight, he better not cost any assets. An expiring PG for Maxiell or Maggette would be a reasonable trade. But Ridnour is not that. So all I can think of as an acceptable deal would be something along the lines of Prince+Middleton/English (second player included to not go over 15 players on roster, youth/potential of throw-in makes up for Prince having one more year on his deal than the guys coming back) for Ridnour+Cunningham. I guess I’d be pretty ambivalent about that deal.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94753 tarsier Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:58:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94753 Maggette as a trade chip can, at best, bring back something like what he cost ( a draft pick attached to a less desirable contract). The Pistons were free to draft Middleton and English with or without Gordon. It was a move that traded an asset for an opportunity. We will have to wait and see what Dumars does with that opportunity. But he'd better capitalize. Otherwise, I will post angry comments on PP (I know I'd be scared of that if I were Joe D). Maggette as a trade chip can, at best, bring back something like what he cost ( a draft pick attached to a less desirable contract).

The Pistons were free to draft Middleton and English with or without Gordon.

It was a move that traded an asset for an opportunity. We will have to wait and see what Dumars does with that opportunity. But he’d better capitalize. Otherwise, I will post angry comments on PP (I know I’d be scared of that if I were Joe D).

]]> By: Talan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94711 Talan Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:11:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94711 I think that is a great point. A ton of teams will have money this offseason and with the new CBA free agents are cheaper than ever. We really need to be in this for the long haul and trade some assets for draft picks. If only real life were like NBA2k13... I think that is a great point. A ton of teams will have money this offseason and with the new CBA free agents are cheaper than ever. We really need to be in this for the long haul and trade some assets for draft picks. If only real life were like NBA2k13…

]]> By: Talan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94705 Talan Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:53:58 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94705 I do think it would be beneficial to get a guy like Luke Ridnour as a steadying hand in the backcourt. I also like Mo Williams, Devin Harris, Kirch Hinrich as guys that can contribute on the cheap. I think a little mentorship for Brandon Knight would do a lot of good.  I do think it would be beneficial to get a guy like Luke Ridnour as a steadying hand in the backcourt. I also like Mo Williams, Devin Harris, Kirch Hinrich as guys that can contribute on the cheap. I think a little mentorship for Brandon Knight would do a lot of good. 

]]> By: Corey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94704 Corey Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:51:33 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94704 Pistons may trade expiring contracts for someone they want to keep, rather than wait for free agency in the summer. A lot of teams will have money this summer.   Pistons may trade expiring contracts for someone they want to keep, rather than wait for free agency in the summer. A lot of teams will have money this summer.

 

]]> By: Talan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94701 Talan Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:39:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94701 Your exactly right. I like the trade because it offers roster and salary flexibility. What Dumars does with that flexibility is yet to be seen. With Gordon gone, we were free to draft English and Middleton, who I think will be solid. By getting Magette's huge expiring, we have a trade chip. As a fan, I have cautious optimism that Joe will improve our roster with the flexibility from the Gordon trade. I'm also hoping Mr. Gores buys out CV's contract and we can move on from that whole debacle.  Your exactly right. I like the trade because it offers roster and salary flexibility. What Dumars does with that flexibility is yet to be seen. With Gordon gone, we were free to draft English and Middleton, who I think will be solid. By getting Magette’s huge expiring, we have a trade chip. As a fan, I have cautious optimism that Joe will improve our roster with the flexibility from the Gordon trade. I’m also hoping Mr. Gores buys out CV’s contract and we can move on from that whole debacle. 

]]> By: gmehl http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94683 gmehl Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:10:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94683 <strong>@David</strong> My point is that the vets are getting blown out and the combination is clearly not working. I was all for giving that starting 5 (Monroe, Max, Prince, Stuckey, Knight) a shot to start the year but feel know it is time to move on. As far as Frank goes i don't think he is a bad coach but rather if he won't play our rookies more with how bad our starters are playing then maybe he isn't the right person for the job. As i said in my post i've remained very patient but it is hard too when you see our Detroit Pistons get beat on the boards and have 110 points per game scored on them. I do agree with you that a trade must be made and Prince is clearly that guy as we have 3 SF that can replace his production as of now. I don't think Max has to be traded but rather be brought in as 1st big man off the bench. Max is great as an energy guy and if he is playing good then play him for extended minutes. @David My point is that the vets are getting blown out and the combination is clearly not working. I was all for giving that starting 5 (Monroe, Max, Prince, Stuckey, Knight) a shot to start the year but feel know it is time to move on. As far as Frank goes i don’t think he is a bad coach but rather if he won’t play our rookies more with how bad our starters are playing then maybe he isn’t the right person for the job. As i said in my post i’ve remained very patient but it is hard too when you see our Detroit Pistons get beat on the boards and have 110 points per game scored on them. I do agree with you that a trade must be made and Prince is clearly that guy as we have 3 SF that can replace his production as of now. I don’t think Max has to be traded but rather be brought in as 1st big man off the bench. Max is great as an energy guy and if he is playing good then play him for extended minutes.

]]> By: Sop http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94682 Sop Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:45:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94682 blaming the vets is too simple. Really have to look at <strong>how well Stuckey and Knight are playing together.</strong> They both need the ball to be effective, especially Stuckey, and neither is particularly athletic or possesses advanced court vision. Have to wonder if these two can <strong>coexist. </strong>Losing last night's game was no surprise, but the inability to close out games is the disappointing part. The real loss here is that it will <strong>be hard to attract free agent</strong><strong>s this summer</strong> if the team has this poor of a record.   blaming the vets is too simple. Really have to look at how well Stuckey and Knight are playing together. They both need the ball to be effective, especially Stuckey, and neither is particularly athletic or possesses advanced court vision. Have to wonder if these two can coexist. Losing last night’s game was no surprise, but the inability to close out games is the disappointing part. The real loss here is that it will be hard to attract free agents this summer if the team has this poor of a record.
 

]]> By: apa8ren9 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94669 apa8ren9 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:48:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94669 Because someone needs to show Brandon Knight how to run an offense and throw a dime or two.   Because the process doesnt allow Monroe and Drummond to be on the court at the same time.  Because even thought its going to be a shitty season, Id like to see someone allow us to win sometimes.   Id like a pro to teach Brandon Knight how to set someone up.  Im going off cause Im frustrated, maybe if I see them win a game Ill settle down.   Because someone needs to show Brandon Knight how to run an offense and throw a dime or two.   Because the process doesnt allow Monroe and Drummond to be on the court at the same time.  Because even thought its going to be a shitty season, Id like to see someone allow us to win sometimes.   Id like a pro to teach Brandon Knight how to set someone up.  Im going off cause Im frustrated, maybe if I see them win a game Ill settle down.  

]]> By: Russell Westbrook throws ball off Brandon Knight, collects and scores in … | Russell Westbrook Jersey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/this-is-the-worst-start-in-pistons-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94665 Russell Westbrook throws ball off Brandon Knight, collects and scores in … | Russell Westbrook Jersey Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:27:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11705#comment-94665 [...] Knight struggled with his shot all night for Detroit, missing 11 of his 13 attempts and finishing with eight points, six assists, four rebounds and three turnovers. Rodney Stuckey (19 points on 13 shots, five assists) and Greg Monroe (17 points, six rebounds, four steals) led the way for the Pistons, who fell to 0-8 on the season — the worst start in franchise history. [...] [...] Knight struggled with his shot all night for Detroit, missing 11 of his 13 attempts and finishing with eight points, six assists, four rebounds and three turnovers. Rodney Stuckey (19 points on 13 shots, five assists) and Greg Monroe (17 points, six rebounds, four steals) led the way for the Pistons, who fell to 0-8 on the season — the worst start in franchise history. [...]

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