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Rodney Stuckey ‘hasn’t grown up yet so he might get frustrated and just shut it down’

Chris Broussard of ESPN (hat tip: Matt from Onekama):

The strange thing is that several people have told me Stuckey worked his tail off over the summer and that he was prepared to come in and have perhaps his best season. Now that he’s struggling, they tell me he’s a moody person who lets his moods affect his play

"He hasn’t grown up yet so he might get frustrated and just shut it down,” one person said.

To his credit, Rodney Stuckey was seeing a therapist in apparent attempt to work through issues like these. Hopefully, Broussard’s source is just making assumptions based on the pre-therapy Stuckey.

37 Comments

  • Nov 15, 20123:16 pm
    by EMBRACE THE PROCESS

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    coach has no balls

    • Nov 15, 20123:17 pm
      by EMBRACE THE PROCESS

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      Stuckey is a 6th man…alway has been and always will be…

      • Nov 15, 20124:42 pm
        by Desolation Row

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        I agree, he’s way more effective in that capacity.

  • Nov 15, 20124:27 pm
    by sebastian

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    There goes Broussard and his sources, again.

  • Nov 15, 20124:30 pm
    by Bluntleespoken

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    Stuckey, not a starter.  He never earned that job to me, it was given to him.  Sad, because respect is earned, not given! I have no respect for him!

    • Nov 15, 20124:51 pm
      by gordbrown

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      Stuckey got his job the same way that Knight did. Because the people who were ahead of him were hurt. Nothing more, nothing less. Stuckey kept it because he has generally played better than anyone else on the roster. This revisionist history is tired and has been tired for years.

      • Nov 15, 20125:11 pm
        by Patrick Hayes

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        That’s not entirely true. Dumars traded a player impeding Stuckey’s opportunity to start in Billups who, if we were going strictly based on production, Stuckey would’ve never come close to beating out. Then he got the starting spot full-time after injuries to Iverson and Hamilton, to significantly lower hurdles for him to battle for minutes than Billups.

        And secondly, Singler got a starting job because Stuckey couldn’t play and played significantly better. So by your own logic above, shouldn’t Singler continue starting, at least until he plays worse than Stuckey has been or Stuckey plays significantly better and gets that spot back? 

        • Nov 15, 20125:31 pm
          by gordbrown

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          Never said Singler shouldn’t start in place of Stuckey. There is an argument to be made that Singler is a better match for the personnel of this team because of his (largely unproven but certainly potential) ability to make threes. I’m actually starting to warm up to the idea of trying Stuckey as a sixth man. But my thinking has always been that Billups was traded because the team needed to be blown up and Dumars felt that trading Billups to his hometown might help build a reputation as a team that would try to do right by their players. Creating playing time for Stuckey might have been part of the thinking, but I;ve never thought it was the top of the list (and Iverson did start at the point initially). That he should have traded Hamilton instead (maybe he should have talked to the 76ers) is 20/20 hindsight, but I’ve certainly always wished  even at the time that he had done that instead.

  • Nov 15, 20124:36 pm
    by Mel

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    Naw, he about right. And it doesn’t matter if he’s not. I hope Stuckey gets more media attention regarding his play maybe it will force him to do something besides pout around like a teenage power puff girl. If he need help go get it. Don’t sacrifice the team for it.

  • Nov 15, 20124:41 pm
    by RyanK

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    It’s time to drag Stuckey through the the mud for a while.  He’s had a bad start to the season and the Pistons have been terrible.  So lets forget how good Stuckey is and focus on the first 8 games of the season.  A borderline allstar that took a major leadership role over the summer.

    • Nov 15, 20124:49 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      “A borderline allstar”

      Hahaha … that’s one long ass border you are using. 

      • Nov 15, 20128:33 pm
        by tarsier

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        He just missed the ‘n’ sound when someone told him the top fifteen players from each conference get in.

      • Nov 15, 201210:18 pm
        by RyanK

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        Are you sure it’s such a stretch?  Half a season of playing to his potential and he’s there with the rest of those guys for a mid season game.  It’s not like I’m saying Maxiell’s a borderline allstar. 
         
        This is really Stuckey’s last chance to break through in my opinion.  The first 8 games make me think he’s not going to become more than a solid player…but it’s still early and few players on this team have done much this season.  Monroe has to have what will likely be one of his top 15 career games to get the team it’s first NBA victory…not good. 

        • Nov 15, 201210:40 pm
          by Patrick Hayes

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          I don’t mean that to say Stuckey is bad. He’s a proven, slightly above average starter in this league, a rotation player on any team. But I just can’t see how he’d ever sniff an All-Star game. It’s conceivable he could improve, but who is he going to unseat among East guards? That’s a crowded bunch, and I don’t think he cracks the top 10 guards in the East overall, even when he’s going well.

    • Nov 16, 20121:01 am
      by PISSED-ON!

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      A BORDERLINE ALL STAR!? C’MON MAN!…… I want that joint you smoking

  • Nov 15, 20124:41 pm
    by Desolation Row

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    Stuckey should come off the bench. Or get better ASAP so we can trade him. He doesn’t fit with Knight and made it fairly clear a few summers ago he didn’t really want to stick here in Detroit. Either have a plan for him on this team that makes sense (like playing with the second unit as a Ginobili-esque surge off the bench) or trade him. Or both.

    I used to believe in Stuckey, but he’s been a teasing disappointment, symbolic of all the post-2008 mishaps of these Pistons. Let’s move on from this. For both his and our sakes.    

  • Nov 15, 20125:10 pm
    by Justin

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    Chris Broussard might as well write for bleacher report. Stick to making stuff up on TV buddy.

  • Nov 15, 20125:11 pm
    by Mel

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    we should get rid of Stuckey and Bynum and somehow get Eric Bledsoe from the Clippers. He’s young not expensive and he’s coming into his own with few minutes. And the thing is, he’ll never get those minutes with Chris Paul and Billips coming back. Then you have Bledsoe and Knight battling it out for starting pg duties.

  • Nov 15, 20125:18 pm
    by danny

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    CALM DOWN people and dont be so quick to judge.  yes stuckey is not what I thought he would turn out to be but he is still a good player.  He needs to be coached and sometimes pampered but some players are like that.  He will come back and just like last year ppl will be talking about how good he is.  Then when he gets in a jam the same ppl will say trade him he isnt worth anything. 

  • Nov 15, 20125:34 pm
    by Mel

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    Hey Danny, I use to think the same way about this dude. I was a Big fan of his. But his actions shows more proof than anything. His talent is unquestionable, at least to me it is. Has the potential to be a All Star this year. I question his desire, heart, and passion for the game oh and not to mention effort at times. Have you ever watched him play against Wade, Rose, Westbrook, Derozon. He plays scared when he goes against better competition. Besides the few times like him dunking on Bosh and scoring 40 on the Bulls Rose rookie year  and the crossover on Kobe last year he’s been non existent against these type of players. I guess I’m too old school, I’m use to Isaiah going at it against Stockon, Price, and anybody else who wanted to get some. Even Billiups put it on guys with his dribble step and then the 3pointer. Wade did not like Billups cause he could never beat him. I’ve waited 6 years for this guy this is the 7th, he’s proving more and more to be a head case to me. I wouldn’t want him on the court in a important situation in the playoffs or the Finals if and when that time ever comes. He might have a headache.     

    • Nov 15, 20128:35 pm
      by tarsier

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      “He plays scared when he goes against better competition.”

      And the examples you give of when he has played fantastically are against Rose and Kobe? I’m confused.

    • Nov 15, 20128:39 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      He has had some great games against Westbrook. I think the problem is the opposite of how you phrased it — he tends to only play great in games where he’s mad about something or feels slighted or otherwise has some extra motivation to do well. It’s the games where he doesn’t have some sort of personal vendetta or extra way to motivate himself that are the problem. 

  • Nov 15, 20125:37 pm
    by gordbrown

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    From watching this team over the past few years, the problem with Stuckey is not that he gives up. The problem is that he gets frustrated and tries to do too much, and we have certainly seen that over the course of time in terms of shot selection, offensive fouls and picking up the ball too quickly on his drives. Don’t have League Pass this year so I’ve been following the team on the internet and by radio so far. But I think that this pattern is reasserting itself some this year so far.  I knew from the day the schedule was released that this was where the team would be at this time (actually was hoping more for 2-7 but oh well). I think people need to take some chill pills (and perhaps those could be good for migraines as well?)

  • Nov 15, 20126:08 pm
    by Mark

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    Stuckey had 3 yrs as a starting PG. He’s now had about 1 full season as starting SG (lockout year plus 8 games this year). Maybe he’s just not a starting guard. 

    There’s nothing wrong with being a supersub combo guard off the bench. I think Stuckey has the talent to be a perrenial 6th man contender. If his problem is mental/emotional though, it may not matter what role he plays.

    But I think its in the Pistons best interest to now try him in that role. They’ve already tried him at both starting spots. No sense in wasting more tim on that. They need to see if he can fit here as a supersub. In which case they could still extend him, but would only have to pay him an MLE type deal.

    If he proves successful in that role, and they can restructure his contract into an MLE deal, that would be good value.

    If he proves not a good fit in that role either, well then you’ve tried everything and then just can just trade him with qualms about it. 

  • Nov 15, 20126:08 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    I see a lot of hate here about my boy Stuckey…Watch how good Stuck plays tomorrow knowing that Singler played well when he got a starting opportunity…Don’t sleep on Stuckey just yet…

    • Nov 15, 20128:13 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      It’s not ‘hate’ to say someone has played awful this season. It’s just a fact.

  • Nov 15, 20126:08 pm
    by qm_22

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    Pistonpowered, I am disappoint. This is unsourced, speculative, and contradicts what we saw of Stuckey last time he played, but let’s pass it off as substance. 

    • Nov 15, 20128:09 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Well, I think Dan did appropriately raise some skepticism about the report, noting that it’s contrary to everything that’s been reported about Stuckey over the past year or so.

      I’m skeptical about the ‘source’ too, but Broussard is still an occasionally well-sourced reporter for the major sports news network, so it’s hard to just ignore it. Hopefully it turns out to be wrong though. 

  • Nov 15, 20126:20 pm
    by frankie d

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    poor stuckey.
    everybody is always on his case about something.
    he’ll be okay.  once he stops spotting up and trying to be dell curry and just starts playing his game, he’ll start putting up numbers similar to what he’s put up in the past.
    most players go through slumps.  stuckey is just going through one that started at the first game of the season.
    (a slump, imho, that has largely been caused because the offensive scheme obviously has been designed to have him spot up and shoot jumpers, which is a ridiculous way to use a player like stuckey.)
    slowly but surely, he is starting to play his game again, and once he gets past this bad time, he’ll be the stuckey of old.  for better or worse.
    now, i have always thought that stuckey was another “seattle guard”, a la jason terry, brandon roy, aaron brooks, jamal crawford, and others…guys who can handle like a point guard, but who play with a scoring guard’s mentality.  it must be something in the puget sound water, cause all of those guys from seattle play the same way. 
    and it’s not a coincidence that most of those guys enjoy their best success as 6th men. 

  • Nov 15, 20127:04 pm
    by Tiko

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    I’m don’t care for Stuckey as a Piston anymore, but this is wack ass shit.  who cares about what one person said?

    • Nov 15, 20127:11 pm
      by Mark

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      lol. “one person said” is the Pistons version of “the anonymous GM” going after the Lions

  • Nov 15, 20127:11 pm
    by Vic

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    Of course now that he has something to prove he’ll come out and play better. But as a gm, you should think – I need someone more stable that knows his strengths and brings it regardless. As a coach, you should be thinking – its obvious that a shooter instead of a driver helps the offensive flow of my starting unit.
    For all the reasons listed above he’s definitely better as a 6th man 

  • Nov 15, 20127:16 pm
    by Vic

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    Common sense- if a guy only plays well when he has something to prove (like in a contract year), then keep him perpetually with something to prove. Off the bench, with short contracts.   The stable, consistent, mentally focused guys that excel based in superior talent or skill should be the main cogs. 

  • Nov 15, 20127:29 pm
    by domnick

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    i think we overrated stuckey since he got the spot after chauncey billups-iverson trade…

    he got games before where he went 50points, 40points consecutive games… and somehow regressed after.. i dont understand..but it happens..

    if there’s any good trade available i think dumars should pull the trigger.. we need to move on and get better… stuckey is just pulling us back… if he plays like an ass tomorrow… then we need to do something about it coz its not gonna help the team in the long run.. brandon knight needs another backcourt mate then

  • Nov 15, 20128:10 pm
    by Mel

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    Stuckey has never went for 50 points , maybe in high school and if I’m not mistaken he’s only went for 40 once and that was against Rose and the Bulls. Like I said Stuckey has the talent he’s just not consistent enough to be a starter. I feel his problem is effort and passion. Sure tomorrow he’s going to lite it up probably he might even go a week or two. But that’s not because he has love for the game as a Piston. It’s because he’s got something to prove. He’s done this before a couple of years before. I remember him going an entire game without shooting the ball but had about close to 20 assist. He dominated the game setting guys up. And after the game he says yeah I can pass like a point guard ( something like that). At the time I was like Yeah Stuck you showed them but now I realized he was just trying to prove that he could pass the ball like other point guards. If your going to prove yourself do it every day not when you feel the public’s picking on you or things just aren’t going your way.

  • Nov 15, 20129:01 pm
    by dziubz

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    From Langlois article, on coming off the bench: “I would love doing that,” he (Stuckey) said. “I have no problems. Whatever L wants me to do. I thought Kyle played phenomenal. He did an excellent job and I was just happy to see him go out there and play the way he did. … I don’t care about starting. The only thing that happens when you start is they call your name. Whatever helps our team win. If Kyle is better with the first group, I think he should start.” 

  • Nov 15, 201211:57 pm
    by Ryan Kelly

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    Calling stucky a borderline all star is asinine.   He is an average nba player who belongs on the bench period.  

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