Nov 8, 2012 • 12:11 pmby Ben Fridsma
who voted for charlie v and daye? lol i voted bynum, dre, english, jj, signler
Nov 8, 2012 • 12:50 pmby tarsier
You don’t want to start Monroe? Really?
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:00 pmby Ben Fridsma
He is not on this list.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:12 pmby tarsier
Yeah that’s why you choose up to 5 (not necessarily 5). The question is which bench players should be inserted into the starting lineup. Obviously, for each one, a member of the current starting lineup would have to be removed.
Nov 8, 2012 • 12:16 pmby Ozzie-Moto
As long as we use this same old lame, to short, un-athletic, un-balanced, can’t shoot, team as last year we are probably the worst team in the NBA
Nov 8, 2012 • 12:26 pmby Jodi Jezz
I voted for Dre!! I also voted for Charlie V on the sneak, lol…
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:34 pmby stupid frank
Someone needs to tell Lawrence Frank to start Andre Drummond. He’s the top prospect and the Jason Maxiell apparently is not getting the job done.
Nov 8, 2012 • 7:28 pmby gmehl
I think Maxiell is doing ok but he is clearly letting the other teams PF get offensive rebounds which is where we are getting beat. If Drummond could slide in at C and push Monroe to PF you’d think this will go a long way to fixing this problem. Also if Max could come off the bench and produce something similar to what he does as a starter then i think that could be just as vital to Drummond starting. It would be unfair to expect Max to produce his same numbers coming off the bench but going up against the other teams second unit would be a lot easier for him. If we go win less for a couple after our west coast swing then i wouldn’t be surprised to see this change happen. Jerebko is playing great as 1st big off the bench so Max would probably play as a C on the second unit.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:46 pmby Keith
At this time I don’t think any of the reserves should start. I won’t say that they shouldn’t be pushing the current starters for playing time (I was happy to see Singler get extended minutes last night), but it’s hard to justify the backups actually moving into the starting rotation.
Bynum has played his role off the bench really well this season, and I wouldn’t necessarily want to change that role.
I almost voted for Drummond. The problem here is that Max has been starting so hot. The majority of his effectiveness these last few games has come in the first quarter. That said, I think Drummond should be getting closer to 24 minutes a game, and some of those minutes need to be with Monroe.
Nov 8, 2012 • 4:47 pmby Mark
Is that you Langlois? ;)
Nov 9, 2012 • 1:18 amby Piston Heel
Yeah that sound like a insider lol
Nov 9, 2012 • 1:33 pmby Keith
Oh man, that hurts.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:46 pmby jake
i picked drummond, singler, and english.
english and singler have just plain outplayed stuckey and prince so far imo. nothing wrong with max though, i’m just really impatient and want monroe and drummond to get comfortable playing with each other.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:49 pmby vic
look who are neck & neck, leading the pistons in WP48. Same two that should be starting:Singler and Drummond
Looks like the numbers and the eyeball test have converged into complete agreement.
Nov 8, 2012 • 3:53 pmby tarsier
I agree with the conclusion. But how you got there is with advanced stats. And advanced stats mean next to nothing over such a small sample size. Especially Drummond’s 72 minutes.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:53 pmby sebastian
Could it be that L. Frank has confused Dre Drummond with Vernon Macklin?
Nov 8, 2012 • 3:55 pmby tarsier
Could be. both are extremely athletic but raw big men who should have gotten more PT. Of course, Drummond’s ceiling is much, much higher. But still. Macklin should have been playing over Max last year.
Nov 8, 2012 • 1:56 pmby France
I’d like to see Dre Drummond but Tayshaun Prince is so awful. Singler needs to replace him in teh starting 5.
Nov 8, 2012 • 2:15 pmby Lisa
I said Singler, because, to replace Prince in the starting line up. Prince looked a little better last night but, he just isn’t what he use to be. Singler just has a lot of hassle out there.
Nov 8, 2012 • 2:20 pmby Dave
I’d start Jonas at the 3 with Monroe at the 4 and Drummond at the 5. Keep the backcourt the same for now, but Singler or English could easily replace Stuckey if his struggles continue.
Nov 8, 2012 • 4:52 pmby Murph
Ding, ding, ding!!! Dave has the correct answer!!! When Tayshuan shoots nowadays, I, literally, turn my head.
Nov 8, 2012 • 2:56 pmby theCouncilofNine
I dont see why Annie Drummond gets the most votes , imo he has to earn those minutes and start by protecting the rim. I would like for him to become substance rather then hype.
English looks great, and Singler is really playing well.
Nov 8, 2012 • 3:56 pmby tarsier
And how is he supposed to earn them without playing? By and large, he has protected the rim better than any other Piston in the limited opportunities he’s had.
Nov 9, 2012 • 1:29 amby Piston Heel
I can tell you havent been watching any games Drummond has made mistakes but damn he’s overhyped!? seriously he can ball. I can take a rookie andre drummond over a 8 year vet maxiel anyday in the starting line up
Nov 8, 2012 • 3:11 pmby Nate
Easy. Start English in place of Stuckey. English will help spread the floor with his 3 point shooting and serve as the all-important corner 3 kick-out man for a Knight/Monroe two-man game. Then, use Stuckey off the bench as a Jamal Crawford or Jason Terry type of role where for a time. As Stuckey is only effective with the ball in his hands, this will maximize his ability while providing better balance within the starting unit.
Where for a time he can dominate the ball^
Nov 8, 2012 • 4:34 pmby rick
If we are not running a motion offense I do not want anyone starting who cannot creat they own shot. Their is a reason why guys are called role players. If we start many of these guys then 0-82 seems like a real possibility(ex. Drummond) . Talk about a mismatched lineup. We need a big who can stretch the floor and open up the driving lanes. (Here’s lookin at you Charlie V) sic
Nov 8, 2012 • 4:46 pmby Desolation Row
JJ(Prince sucks), English (so Stuckey can come off bench and score), and Drummond. Only three guys starting right now have any business starting, and Stuckey would be better off the bench. Frank is coaching for the short-term right now.. I hope Joe D and co. tell him he’s being measured on young player development and not wins. Soon.
We’re not winning anyways and Prince got a good bargain on his contract; he should be satisfied with coming off the bench. The only scenario I am comfortable with this current starting lineup is one in which Joe D is trying to build Max and Tay’s trade value to ship them off. Otherwise, Frank and Dumars may need to take Big Bird’s place in the unemployment line.
Nov 8, 2012 • 4:48 pmby Patrick Hayes
“ I hope Joe D and co. tell him he’s being measured on young player development and not wins.”
What if both Joe D and Frank are being measured by wins?
Nov 8, 2012 • 5:00 pmby Murph
Well, if they were both being measured my wins, you’d think that one of them would say to the other, “Why the heck are we letting Tayshuan play so many minutes?” Or, “Does Rodney know that he can shoot from much closer?” Or, how about, “Those new guys can really shoot. Probably better than some of our starters. Have you noticed that?”
Nov 9, 2012 • 2:01 amby Desolation Row
That’s a really good point. If that is the case, then this organization is completely dysfunctional because it puts things in a position where veterans are playing over younger guys who may ultimately never realize their potential or realize it somewhere else as a result. End result: this would — at best — land us onto the mediocrity treadmill.
In my office we have this pool where 10 of us each get three teams to start the season off, top combined number of wins gets the prize money. We calculated draft position in such a way to guarantee decent parity (i.e. #1 pick suffers in the second and third rounds). Well, the Pistons were taken dead last (I picked start of the third round). The saddest part of the whole thing? I told everyone who picked after 24 they’d messed up because the Pistons never tank.
Nov 8, 2012 • 8:14 pmby D_S_V
I voted for Singler and only Singler. While I love how he plays off the bench and the punch he provides, I think he rounds out the starting lineup quite well. Also, at this point it’s hard to see a big gap between his and Tayshaun’s production anyways.
I think Jerebko is a fantastic off the bench energy player and I have no problem with him continuing to fulfill that role. If the Pistons ever formed a formidable team, Jerebko could be perfect and impactful exactly where he is.
As for the Max/Drummond debate – I’m OK with Drummond coming off the bench at this point. Max has played pretty well on offense. Defense? Yeah, not so much. But I swear I don’t think Drummond has made some huge defensive impact in his moments as others have. His positive plays have more to do with his physical superiority and I think it’s clear that he has to gain a better feel for his defensive positioning before he can become a full time starter.
How do you get a better feel? I think that has to do with logging consistent minutes. But hey, can you blame Frank for playing those who give us the best chance of winning? Look at our record! So sure, 12 minutes here, 6 there. If Drummond’s minutes are the cost of us losing by 8 rather than 15, well, you’ve got a fan in me.
As an aside. If Bledsoe becomes available later this season… Or Maynor… The grass is always greener and BK7 hasn’t won me over yet.
Nov 8, 2012 • 8:38 pmby I HATE U FRANK
Now everyone is saying what I’ve been saying….but because I HATE U FRANK! People wanna take it personal amazing
Nov 9, 2012 • 6:53 amby tom smith
They should send Middleton to the NBDL…the kid is not ready for the NBA and needs to play in order to grow. The bench is not going to help his game.
Nov 9, 2012 • 10:24 amby Patrick Hayes
He probably will be sent there, but D-League season hasn’t started yet. Most training camps don’t open until next week. They just held their draft last Friday.
Nov 9, 2012 • 6:55 amby Willy Smith
Trade the entire team …they SUCK!
Nov 9, 2012 • 10:26 amby MIKEYDE248
I voted for JJ since him and Monroe have been the 2 best players day in and day out. Both have a few years of experience, so they aren’t making as many mistakes as some of the rookies
Singler is starting to develope and I could see him moving into the starting lineup later in the season along with Drummond. I would like to see both of these guys getting increased minutes though.
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