I said it about Drummond…and I was Correct…I said it about Singler and I was correct… 

Ok, no offense, but that attitude is one of the most egregiously erroneous ones I know. A turnover matters just as much when the score is 2 to 4 as it does with 90 seconds left in the fourth quarter. It won’t be remembered as much, but it counts equally.

And, as I said, the low assist numbers are acceptable even if non-ideal. But the style of offense should drop his TOs as much as his assists. Hence why I use their ratio as an indicator of efficiency and not either raw number.

Furthermore, I still don’t see how he has been a top ten PG in November. However, if one the season he can put up 15 and 6 on 45% from the field and 40% from three with under 3 TOs, I would consider it a massively successful season. Probably still not top ten PG caliber, but I don’t expect him to be a top ten PG in his second season.

I hate seeing DNP next to JJ’s name, because I think he could be one of the players of the future for the Pistons.  Although I see him being traded or given away and flurishing with another team.  Seen that happen way too often in Detroit.

He has become very confident is his shot, and when its not falling, he does drive the ball and get into the lane.

His assist numbers WILL NOT ever be HIGH..because of the way the Pistons play offense….

Last note Kyrie Irving averages 4.1 to’s a game…. and nobody cares, because he scores 20ppg (but takes 17 shots) … Knight can be that player, I just think he has a bum rep….

A) I’m comparing him to players in the same position. Other starting PGs. I never said he doesn’t have potential or upside. I said he is playing below average right now. And I stand by that.

B) I wasn’t comparing him to Lillard/Irving any more than any other starters. But if I were, a head to head matchup is kinda irrelevant. Not completely irrelevant, mind you. It counts jut as much as every other game. But that’s why you take season long averages. Because anyone can have a good or bad game on one given night. If both Lillard and Knight remain starting PGs, I guarantee they will each dominate the other several times.

I agree that Knight is a very good 3 point shooter. And thankfully, he is taking quite a few threes. props to him. And yes, his FG% in November is slightly above average for a PG. I am not, however, just looking at his AST:TO ratio. I am looking at that in concert with his percentages (just like I am not just looking at his first four games, but I am including them). Furthermore, he doesn’t get to the line a whole lot, and he converts his FTs at a well below average rate for starting PGs (albeit, a fairly average rate for NBA players).

Yes, I am sure my list could be picked apart. Especially the section I clearly listed as debatable–which is where you pulled the two names you stated you had a problem with. So let’s ignore that section even though I think Knight is somewhere smack dab in the middle of it (making a couple of them better than him too). In the first 13 names, I dare you to find 4 that you don’t think I could provide resounding evidence that they have outperformed Knight in November.

The last 12 games may have represented a turnaround from the first four for Knight. but I am unconvinced. His numbers are only mildly better by removing those four (basically going from slightly below average for a starting PG to slightly above average). And I’m sure supporters of many of the other names could say some four bad games also represented a departure from the true level of play of their guys.

I’m not worried about him getting 8-10 apg either. Especially when the offense is running through Monroe and everyone is moving the ball well. But the low assist numbers do make the high TO numbers more unacceptable. When someone is always handling the ball and passing it a ton, a number of TOs is inescapable. For a guy playing like Knight, that number should definitely be under 2.5 per game. And shooting at a slightly above average rate (starting PGs average about 43%) isn’t enough to make up for that and call him an efficient player.

All your crapping on Knight is predicated on comparing him to either A) established players or B) Lillard/Irving — (one of whom he decimated btw)