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Pistons will try their luck against Dwight Howard after struggling with Omer Asik and Marcin Gortat

Essentials

  • Teams: Detroit Pistons (0-2) at Los Angeles Lakers (0-3)
  • Date: November 4, 2012
  • Time: 9:30 p.m.
  • Television: FSD

What to look for

Andy Kamenetzky, writer for the ESPN Los Angeles Land O’ Lakers blog, was kind enough to answer five questions about tonight’s Lakers-Pistons matchup. I also responded to some pregame questions for him if you’d like to go check those out.

1. The Lakers obviously made two of the biggest (if not THE biggest) moves of the offseason in acquiring Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. Just give a little overview of your impressions of each guy as a Laker so far.

“Between the two, Howard’s made the more immediate positive impression. His timing and conditioning aren’t quite right yet, particularly on the defensive side. As a lane protector, where Howard typically changes games, he’s been fairly ineffective. (Although to be fair, his job has been made difficult by equally inept work from his teammates across the board.) Thus, he doesn’t truly look like Dwight Howard. At the same time, he’s also averaging 21.7 points, 10.7 boards and a shade over 14 trips to the line while getting up to speed. I’m quite confident of the future once Howard hits his stride.

“Nash, however, has been a tougher fit. He’s got the green light to run the offense however he wants, but is admittedly trying hard to get the entire team up to speed with the Princeton, a goal that’s come at the expense of letting fly in his natural style. As a result, Nash has looked like a fish out of water, often tentative about what to initiate and when. When he gives up the ball, he doesn’t always get it back, and regularly ends up a bystander. This discomfort only further spotlights the defensive issues expected under the best of circumstances.

“I do think Nash will eventually discover a happy place as the entire team grows more cohesive, and I’m hardly panicking over his early start. But it will take a while before he truly hits a groove, and the small leg fracture currently sidelining him will only lengthen this timeline.”

2. With five rookies on the roster, the Pistons have expressed a desire to run more this season. Is that something you worry about with an older team like the Lakers? Do you think teams that commit to playing up-tempo against them will have some success?

Absolutely, particularly while the Lakers are still clearly not on the same page defensively. At peak efficiency, there’s a ceiling to how well the Lakers can defend in transition. They’re simply too slow to get consistent stops while backpedaling. Moreover, this weakness has been exacerbated by a tendency to play like the ball is a greased pig. This team commits so many turnovers, you’d think players added them as a contract incentive. Some are the result of not knowing the offense. Others are due to sloppiness. Either way, they hurt, and as you mentioned in your half of this exchange, these Pistons have been fairly effective at forcing turnovers anyway. I could see Detroit inducing some easy scores this way.

3. With the highly skilled Greg Monroe and the athletic freakishness of Andre Drummond, I think many Pistons fans look at the Lakers Gasol-Howard frontcourt as stylistically similar (though nowhere near similar talent-wise). How do you see Howard and Gasol complementing each other this season?

“Offensively, their synergy has been a bright spot. While Andrew Bynum operated almost exclusively from the left block, Howard can be placed all over the court because of his ability to play high screen-and-roll. In turn, Gasol is able to play down low more often than last season, even if he’ll inevitably launch his fair share of mid-range jumpers. Also, Gasol is arguably the best passing big man in the entire league, and makes a habit of finding Howard. Gasol and Bynum used to run a very successful 4/5 pick-and-roll, and we’ve already seen that from the current duo, as well as El Spaniard-to-Superman lobs. They could be terrifyingly good together.

“Defensively, like the rest of the team, they’re a serious work in progress, but I also think the potential is high. Both can cover a lot of ground, whether showing, then recovering in pick-and-roll coverage or closing on shooters. Plus, those are four very long arms altering lane in the paint and grabbing missed shots. The two could make life miserable for opposing scorers.”

4. Being in Michigan, I have to ask you a Darius Morris question. Any chance he cracks the rotation for Los Angeles this season? Are the Lakers high on him as a prospect?

“Under normal circumstances, probably not. Morris obviously won’t beat out Nash, and were I to guess, probably not Steve Blake, who’s earned the confidence of Mike Brown despite his inconsistencies. However, with Nash out, Blake’s the starter and Brown opted to play Morris ahead of Chris Duhon Friday against the Clippers. The kid performed credibly (7 points, including a triple, one assist, one steal) and I imagine he’ll keep those minutes against Detroit.

“Is he truly ready? That remains to be seen.

“Morris does a fairly good job penetrating into the teeth of defenses, a skill on notably short supply among the Lakers’ perimeter players, and his mind operates like a point guard’s. However, he also has a bad habit of over-dribbling into trouble, and his jump shot isn’t reliable enough to command much respect, which can limit his effectiveness. Defensively, he hasn’t necessarily stood out. Mike Brown gave Morris a few chances during preseason, and the results were fairly erratic. But he’s got an opportunity in front of him, and will hopefully make the most of it.

“Either way, every impression I’ve gotten is that the team is high on Morris long-term. He’s got great natural size for the point (with some extra muscle added in the offseason), works hard, and has a great attitude.”

5. Your prediction for this game …

The Lakers are 0-3 and that locker room is growing edgy. The Pistons are equally winless, but unequally talented. That sets up nicely for the hosts to finally break through. Plus, I’m not ready for a visit from the four horsemen of the apocalypse. The Lakers have to win, right? (Right?)

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94 Comments

  • Nov 4, 20126:56 pm
    by MNM

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    My prediction: Detroit will have NO luck tonight..which isn’t a suprise. Possibly against Seatl-ahh, I mean Sacramento.. that game may be the only realistic chance on this road trip, but most likely, it will come after their home game against the Thunder..

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  • Nov 4, 20128:01 pm
    by Day and Knight

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    Patrick, I LOVE your headline! 

  • Nov 4, 20129:22 pm
    by Jodi Jezz

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    This will be a competitive game if Frank puts Drummond in the game with Monroe…I predict we’ll win by 5 points and Drummond/Monroe will show Frank that he needs to play them together more often…

  • Nov 4, 20129:43 pm
    by frankie d

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    laker’s blowout.
    the lakers need the win, detroit is…well…detroit…and the pistons just are overmatched.

  • Nov 4, 201210:01 pm
    by ray

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    I can’t wait for Patrick to justify this! Your getting killed on the inside …. Maxiell goes to the bench … And the first person off the bench is Jerebko …while howard and Gasol are still in the game …. I HATE U FRANK

    • Nov 4, 201210:06 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      He probably hates you too.

    • Nov 4, 201210:09 pm
      by Vic

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      The whole front office and coaching staff are idiots. Or they just wan a high daft pick.

      Maybe this is just early tanking…. Lose all the games you can in the beginning so you don’t have to appear to tank when every one else is. 

  • Nov 4, 201210:04 pm
    by jerrific

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    Wow, not off to a good start. I really hope Frank gets smart and uses Drummonds size to our advantage. I hate to be part of the “Frank sucks cause Drummond doesn’t play enough,” but we really need his size against this team. I don’t understand why Jerebko is the first big off the bench, he is going to be man handled by LA’s bigs. 

    • Nov 4, 201210:07 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Yeah … not really sure why they did that, although Gasol is really more of a face-up/high post player at this point than a low-post guy. Still, Drummond better get 30+ minutes in this game if he’s not in foul trouble.

  • Nov 4, 201210:05 pm
    by ray

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    Now down by 15 …you bring in Drummond….LOL. I HATE U FRANK! ….

  • Nov 4, 201210:05 pm
    by theicon77

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    Tom Gores in the house!!!
     

  • Nov 4, 201210:08 pm
    by ray

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    I’m almost okay with an 0-10 start …if it means getting rid of Frank!

  • Nov 4, 201210:15 pm
    by gmehl

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    I am hoping now that Drummond is in there that he shows Frank that he HAS to play him more. Take away all the excuses and show him you’re ready big fella!

  • Nov 4, 201210:21 pm
    by ray

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    LOL we are doubling and trapping …2nd rotation players

    Why Drummond shoots that shot because he is not part of the offense ….

    Frank is a very Poor man Larry Brown…. Very Very Very Poor!

  • Nov 4, 201210:21 pm
    by Reaction

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    Drummond looks smaller than he was in the summer league for some reason.. Anyone else notice that? He doesn’t look as toned and built.

    • Nov 4, 201210:27 pm
      by gmehl

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      That’s what being down by almost 30 points 5 minutes before halftime will do to you. It make you look small.

  • Nov 4, 201210:22 pm
    by Vic

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    Funny how Frank gets all frustrated and demonstrative with the 2nd unit, and their the ones that aRe actually out scoring the Lakers.he lets the first unit run the game into the ground without doing anything

    • Nov 4, 201210:25 pm
      by D_S_V

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      For real. He bout shit his pants after calling that time out. Feisty little Irish man. 

  • Nov 4, 201210:24 pm
    by ray

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    LOL he benches drummond GN! I’m done with Frank … Mr. Gore if by chance you read this Frank is not the man for this team! ….

    • Nov 4, 201210:26 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Drummond played five minutes and looked lost. You realize this, don’t you? This is not an overnight thing. Drummond is still a project.

      • Nov 4, 201210:28 pm
        by Reaction

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        Yup. Patrick is right on this one. Drummond was getting toyed around with by Dwight. He couldn’t even get anywhere near the basket. The Pistons are looking more like a D-League team by playing the Lakers right now. The stat lines are horrendous :(

        • Nov 4, 201210:29 pm
          by D_S_V

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          D league? 

          “Singler is bringing the Pistons back here in the Staples Center”

          -Blaha 

          • Nov 4, 201210:31 pm
            by D_S_V

            Shit. Singler’s injured.

          • Nov 4, 201210:32 pm
            by Reaction

            11 Turnovers in the first half already by the Pistons. They are getting destroyed by the Lakers with the exception of those three players mentioned above. 
            Stuckey 0-4
            Knight 0-5
            Monroe 1-3
            Prince 2-5
            etc 

        • Nov 4, 201210:29 pm
          by Reaction

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          Only Singler, Jerebko, and Maxiell are playing decent

      • Nov 4, 201210:34 pm
        by Vic

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        You realize the Lakers scoring slowed down too. He only made one mistake and got yanked.

  • Nov 4, 201210:25 pm
    by Venice

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    This years team is hopeless .This is the first time in my life feeling disgusted .

    • Nov 4, 201210:26 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      You should go back and watch tape of their start last season man. Because it looked like that team was going to win five games all year.

      • Nov 4, 201210:58 pm
        by Venice

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        I just think its better to make slava start .Monroe is pretty hopeless in C position .He cant guard strong bigs out there .He really needs to slide to PF ASAP .

  • Nov 4, 201210:25 pm
    by gmehl

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    Blooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow out. I don’t know if i used enough O’s

  • Nov 4, 201210:26 pm
    by Vince

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    Getting dominated. I’m out. Frank’s rotation are pissing me off and we’re not going anywhere this season if the team keep playing like this…

  • Nov 4, 201210:28 pm
    by acr

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    My god this is ugly. 

  • Nov 4, 201210:29 pm
    by ray

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    Mr. Gore by Time this team get back to Detroit…fans won’t be watching the games…they won’t come to the game…team chemistry will be gone…and young players that’s suppose to be the future of the team confidences will be gone!

    Its okay to get rid of Frank…everyone Hates Him!

    • Nov 4, 201210:33 pm
      by Reaction

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      I think it would be kinda funny if Gores was a owner like Cuban lmao

      • Nov 4, 201210:36 pm
        by Patrick Hayes

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        Not positive on this, but I’m pretty sure Gores spilled his drink right before cameras were on him. He was wiping up the floor in front of his courtside seat. Also, he’s wearing the tightest Pistons shirt in history.

        • Nov 4, 201210:42 pm
          by theicon77

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          How long will he stay to watch this? Can’t feel good watching your team crushed.

    • Nov 4, 201210:51 pm
      by MNM

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      A. Spell the owners name correctly please. The former Vice President of the United States does not have anything to do with this team.

      B. He is not searching for blog sites to read what random fans are thinking, so you don’t actually have to address him personally. Unless your trying to be funny, in which case, it’s not.. Just obnocious.

      C. We get it.. You don’t like Lawrence Frank.. Suggestion: Move on, and come up with something new to say. 

  • Nov 4, 201210:30 pm
    by theicon77

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    Gloom and doom.

  • Nov 4, 201210:32 pm
    by Vic

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    Now that the 2nd unit is on a streak… Just take them all out. Early tanking by Frank!

  • Nov 4, 201210:34 pm
    by Ron

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    Damn Frank had to bench Drummond after that BS sequence. He took a garbage shot then lost his man on D?  Come on man you’re giving him a reason to take away your minutes.

  • Nov 4, 201210:41 pm
    by theicon77

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    i am sure you all agree Coach Franks will fire up the boys at halftime.

  • Nov 4, 201210:47 pm
    by ray

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    I realize that Dwight was already in his groove…because I HATE U FRANK decideD to start undersized maxiell vs 2 7 footers … The Lakers were up 15-17 points …and u bring Drummond in… And he just stands around on offense BY DESIGN!!! How I know because he goes to the same spot …. So what if dwight gets a few buckets on him … Its experience and its not like monroe or maxiel did any better ….

    Horrible coaching!!!!

  • Nov 4, 201210:48 pm
    by Mel

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    U put Drummond and Monroe together and Drummond won’t be so lost out on the floor just have him box out and rebound Monroe can score and rebound. It’s not rocket science. Frank has really exposed his incompetence. GO Pistons.

  • Nov 4, 201210:52 pm
    by ray

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    All I know is…Greg and Drummond better get some minutes together…

  • Nov 4, 201210:55 pm
    by Prelove

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    Patrick, You know you love Tom’s hairplugs and ipod full of creed/nickelback.

    • Nov 4, 201210:57 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Oh man, Nickelback is definitely going to come to the Palace at halftime sometime, aren’t they?

  • Nov 4, 201210:56 pm
    by ray

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    This is terrible…. Make an adjustment!

    • Nov 4, 201210:59 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      What do you suggest they adjust? One team is a title contender and one team is a lottery team. You act like these teams have even remotely close levels of talent. This game should be a blowout. The Lakers are doing what they should do to inferior teams.

      • Nov 4, 201211:05 pm
        by Prelove

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        Curious would you still see this team as a lottery team if they were 2-0?

        • Nov 4, 201211:10 pm
          by theicon77

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          I would still see them as a team hoping for an 8 seed.  

        • Nov 4, 201211:14 pm
          by Patrick Hayes

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          @prelove:

          Yeah. I think they’re still, despite this awful start, a team that could have an outside shot at competing for that eight spot. But they need do many things to go right for that to happen and I think there are at least 10 teams in the East that are clearly better right now talent-wise. I’ve felt all along that they are a likely lottery team. Playoffs aren’t a complete pipe dream, but they always felt like a real longshot to me.

          • Nov 4, 201211:41 pm
            by Keith

            I think short of serious shakeups, they are a LOT closer to the #1 pick (or worse record) than the 8th playoff seed. We literally don’t do anything well, and our starting lineup does just about everything at bottom of the league levels.

  • Nov 4, 201211:00 pm
    by ray

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    The same thing he benched Dre for Maxeill just did!!!

    Why not change the line up? Why?

    Adjust!

  • Nov 4, 201211:00 pm
    by Mark

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    Where is that Russian guy who we signed as a shot blocker? They need to play twin towers. Maxiel is too short

  • Nov 4, 201211:03 pm
    by theicon77

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    I kinda feel like they should be playing that Harlem Globetrotter music.

  • Nov 4, 201211:07 pm
    by Starlight0997

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    My goodness, this game could end up as bad as the Nuggets @ Hornets game where Denver won by 58 points.
    Well, back to the lottery again. Let us hope that the Pistons get Shabazz or Muhammad or Cody Zeller.
     

    • Nov 5, 20122:32 am
      by Starlight0997

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      Oh my, I totally forgot that Detroit gave away their first round pick for the Ben Gordon trade.

  • Nov 4, 201211:12 pm
    by ray

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    Look at the Great Defense by Maxiell …. Drummond couldn’t do that!

    And he refuses tp play Drummond and Monroe our of pride! Its scary that this is our head coach

    • Nov 4, 201211:17 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      It’s scary that you’re still beating these comments into the ground. Seriously … you’ve said the same exact think like 15 times in this thread. We get the point.

  • Nov 4, 201211:12 pm
    by theicon77

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    Drummonds in.  Game will be tied soon.

  • Nov 4, 201211:13 pm
    by Keith

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    Some mid-game impressions (because I can’t watch anymore).
     
    1) We are a really really bad team. More comments to follow, and yes the Lakers are a really good team, but damn… just damn.
     
    2) Greg Monroe is a really smart guy. He’s always knows where to be and he rarely does anything that makes me genuinely upset. He is an amazing passer, and could probably lead the team in assists if we had anyone who could hit shots. However, he is friggin’ terrible on defense. He knows where to be, and he tries to get there, but watching him off the ball he looks like he’s running in slow motion. I can see why Frank is reluctant to play him at PF. He’ll have no chance against perimeter-oriented players.
     
    3) I hope Stuckey is hurt, because he is currently the worst player on our team. I’ve never seen someone before miss so many shots from every part of the floor. The only benefit he currently has is that his presence is assuring us a top draft pick.
     
    4) Will the real Brandon Knight please stand up? When Stuckey is in the game with him, he looks like a D-leaguer on a ten day contract. When Stuckey is off the floor, he vaguely resembles an NBA player. I’ve yet to see any improvement on his game from last year. It’s way too early to call him a bust, but I really wouldn’t mind getting a new PG.
     
    5) Does Dumars write something into ever coach’s contract that they must play the slowest pace in the league and run a completely unworkable offense? I was watching some of the plays we run, specifically how we run them, and was trying to picture LA/Miami/San Antonio running the same play. You know what I figured the result would have been, even with considerably better players? A lot of misses. San Antonio would never run the clock killing pass-pass back-look around-pass back-no movement-pass back-wild shot plays we run. LA would be shooting better than us, but still be throwing away possessions right and left. Miami may be the only team in the league that could get away with our offense, and that’s only because they have two of the greatest isolation scorers in the last decade. If you don’t have a lot of talent, you have to utilize great teamwork and a solid plan for scoring (think Denver, Utah, or Phoenix last year). Do we EVER run the pick and roll, the bread and butter play of every half-decent PG in the world? Could we try the Triangle since we have such a great passing big man? Why do we compound our lack of talent by running the worst plays in the league
     
     

  • Nov 4, 201211:17 pm
    by Vic

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    Now that’s how a paint protector protects the paint. He just changed their offense and gave us a fast break.

    FEED THE BRAHMA BULL. 

  • Nov 4, 201211:19 pm
    by Patrick Hayes

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    Non-basketball thought on Drummond — he genuinely seems like a really, really nice person. That was really cool watching him run to Bynum when he was down injured, then putting his arm around him when they walked back to the bench. It’s really easy to like him.

    And he’s also played much better in his stint this half, so that’s obviously a positive as well. 

    • Nov 4, 201211:26 pm
      by Keith

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      He’s feels like such a breath of fresh air. Having been a fan through player mutinies and the obvious entitlement of certain old players, he seems so… innocent. He’s not out pimping himself as the next big thing, he’s not throwing his bad coach or worse teammates under the bus for anything, and he just seems like a great person. It’s actually a little jarring, he comes off as just a normal kid trying to learn the game.
       
      Maybe we’re finally passed the point of AI, Kobe, and Lebron as the role model for rookies. Hopefully more Durant, Rose, and Irvings, fewer Jennings. Hopefully more Monroes and Drummonds, fewer Cousins.

  • Nov 4, 201211:24 pm
    by ray

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    We have the worst coach in the NBA! And for the first time ever Joe Dumars has to go! You can co-sign on this and go blameless

    • Nov 4, 201211:27 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      You are going to get fired from the comments if you don’t start reeling yourself in a bit. There is no reason for you to monopolize these threads by repeating the same thing over and over again.

    • Nov 4, 201211:29 pm
      by theicon77

      Reply

      What were your expectations for the season? Eastern conference finals?

  • Nov 4, 201211:26 pm
    by domnick

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    what a massacre… we didn’t put up any fight… our starters playing bad.. backcourt guys looked lost.. so many turnovers… bad defense… total humiliation…

    0-3 what the hell!

    • Nov 4, 201211:28 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Like that Frank has not gone back to the starters after he cleared the bench in the third. I hope he keeps them benched the rest of the night.

      • Nov 4, 201211:31 pm
        by theicon77

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        The starters are in trouble if they are not going to get anything from Stuckey. I could go for one of his 5-19′s right now. 

         

      • Nov 4, 201211:34 pm
        by domnick

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        well keeping them benched today won’t help our next game.. i think something is wrong and he (Frank) needs to check on that… he needs to sort them out and he needs to do something about it…

        we can’t keep on doing this.. its been 3 games — stuck and knight are not playing so well… they both play inconsistently..

        monroe is not within himself too.. what’s bothering them? this is unacceptable…

      • Nov 4, 201211:37 pm
        by Starlight0997

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        The bench is now outscoring the starting unit despite playing less minutes. They may or may not be as talented as the starting five (even that is questionable now), but they have a lot of heart. Should Frank change up the starting five, especially with Stuckey struggling? Or just keep their “roles” on the bench?
         

        • Nov 4, 201211:42 pm
          by domnick

          Reply

          well mate..

          the answer is… it has to be talent and heart.. if our starters have been playing like that then we will be fine..

          but not this time!

        • Nov 4, 201211:45 pm
          by theicon77

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          Stuckey struggling is tough because of our depth at guard. Who would replace him, English?  Hopefully we can just sit him a game or something and this migraine thing will pass. 

          • Nov 5, 201212:08 am
            by domnick

            not only stuckey man, its everyone in the starting 5….

            knight unable to produce… he is turning over and not making shots!

  • Nov 4, 201211:28 pm
    by Mel

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    I can not except the fact that these guys spent all this summer to come with this Sh!t, Seriously. This was one of the only teams to spend most of the summer together and to brig this to the court is bad. The starters played with much more energy last year than they are playing now.
     

    • Nov 4, 201211:34 pm
      by Keith

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      We had the second worst offense AND second worse defense in the league last year. Our win-loss record was primarily luck and running into a lot of teams tanking. I know this has to be disappointing, but no one should have really been coming into this year expecting a lot of wins. Chemistry seems to play a big role when a team is winning, but it is never going to mean much with the extreme lack of talent and coaching we currently have.
       
      Maybe we turn it around, but the more likely hope is that we get a top 3 pick and there are actually worthy candidates to pick.

      • Nov 4, 201211:39 pm
        by domnick

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        problem is… are we getting the higher draft pick next season? its traded to charlotte right? am i correct?

        another is…. the results last 2 games are not acceptable… and this game is another humiliation… this has to be stopped!

  • Nov 4, 201211:32 pm
    by Vic

    Reply

    And none of these guys are good enough for the starting lineup?

    • Nov 4, 201211:38 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      They’re playing well. They were also playing against a lineup that features Robert Sacre, Steve Blake, Jordan Hill, Darius Morris and Antawn Jamison. Pump the brakes a bit. They would’ve struggled against LA’s starters too. They’re playing with more effort, which is good, but starting any of these guys isn’t going to suddenly make the Pistons into a playoff team.

  • Nov 4, 201211:33 pm
    by Jopl

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    I like that Frank decided to stick with the bench for (hopefully) the rest of the game.  They at least are playing with energy and excitement, even with the mistakes.  I would have liked to see English in more to see how he could have guarded Kobe, especially since Stuckey isn’t 100%  I would also like to see Drummond and Monroe play a bit in this game.  Ahh well, at least the bench is fun to watch.

  • Nov 4, 201211:34 pm
    by D_S_V

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    I think at this point it’s safe to say that we know there is a huge difference in the caliber of these two teams. So now, a few thoughts…

    Yes, the #freedrummond campaign can be called premature (and immature depending on how it is delivered), but is it really that crazy? It begs the question, what exactly do you want to achieve, and how exactly do you plan on achieving it? I would hope that in the Pistons organization, the answer to the first part of the question is winning a championship. So going on the hope that this is true, what reason is there to not play Drummond as much as possible? As was stated before, there is a clear difference between these two teams. I think it’s fair to say that Maxiell is more productive at this point, but what the effing F does it matter when you’re out of the game from the start? What good does that do the Pistons? Was I fooled into thinking that drafting Drummond meant an attempt at finding a pair for Monroe in the future? If our most productive possible players at this moment play against a true contender and are down 20 in the first half and never approach making this a possible game, shouldn’t that mean something? So if your goal is to get on this tier of true contending teams, what good does it do you to play heavier minutes to the players who are known commodities at the ceiling of their careers over players who you want to find out what they can offer in the long term? Again, if the goal is to become a championship contender, the logic and approach to the aforementioned questions could never be explained in the way the Pistons are approaching the goal at the moment.

  • Nov 4, 201211:37 pm
    by Vic

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    Jerebko is a good player but not a PF,which is why Jordan Hill keeps getting offensive boards 

    • Nov 4, 201211:38 pm
      by Keith

      Reply

      If only we had an opening at SF, eh?
       

  • Nov 4, 201211:41 pm
    by ray

    Reply

    GOOD D DRE!!!!!

  • Nov 4, 201211:42 pm
    by ray

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    all we need to do is get blown out!!! and then rookies get PT!!!!

  • Nov 4, 201211:45 pm
    by ray

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    you know what would have been nice…when we were down 7 points… He replaces maxiel and stuckey for English and drummond

    • Nov 5, 201212:07 am
      by vic

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      Thats what Laimbeer would have done

  • Nov 4, 201211:46 pm
    by domnick

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    the best move is change and trade…

    3 games and i see lack of cohesion.. i cant stand to wait 10 games or 20 games before we start winning consistently.. if mr. pistons owner is impatient enough then we need to starting working…

    as a fan i just want to win… we need some direction… i cant bear to watch our team losing first two winnable games and getting blowed out by LAKERS.. yeah LAKERS is legit contender but the effort wasn’t there from the starters.. effort came from the bench guys who wanted to come out and play…

  • Nov 5, 201210:44 am
    by I HATE U FRANK

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    Heres my Biggest Beef….and this is why I HATE U FRANK…

    With about 5 Minutes left in the first qrt…Maxiel goes to the Bench because of fouls…Mind you everyone knows that the Lakers have the Size advantage ANYWAY….

    The score is 8-15 Lakers….13 of switch has been scored by Gasol and Dwight….

    With 5 minutes left in the first…you bring in Jonas to play PF keeping Monroe at Center….

    So for the next 4 minutes…. Gasol and Dwight Scored 10 of the lakers Next 13 points

    you bring Drummond in with 1 minute left in the first qrt…down 15…

    To Defend Dwight or Gasol who are already Rhythm….

    I HATE U FRANK!!!!

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