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	<title>Comments on: Pistons blow 11-point fourth quarter lead to Oklahoma City Thunder, fall to 0-8</title>
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		<title>By: labatts</title>
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		<dc:creator>labatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right there with you.  I feel like Dumars should coach his own mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right there with you.  I feel like Dumars should coach his own mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday Bolts &#8211; 11.13.12 &#124; Daily Thunder.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuesday Bolts &#8211; 11.13.12 &#124; Daily Thunder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Feldman of Piston Powered: &#8220;The Pistons played fine for the first three quarters – and for Detroit, fine is divine – but the Thunder were playing their second of a back-to-back and fourth game in five days. It was impressive that the Pistons could build a double-digit lead on Oklahoma City in any circumstance, but it’s not terribly surprising that they blew it. The Thunder are simply a level or two above Detroit right now.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan Feldman of Piston Powered: &#8220;The Pistons played fine for the first three quarters – and for Detroit, fine is divine – but the Thunder were playing their second of a back-to-back and fourth game in five days. It was impressive that the Pistons could build a double-digit lead on Oklahoma City in any circumstance, but it’s not terribly surprising that they blew it. The Thunder are simply a level or two above Detroit right now.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Frank!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Frank!</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, Vince, please help me to understand ... Why in the hell did Joe and Gores offer the Ukrainian $1.5 million per year, before he even crossed the Atlantic and the guy doesn&#039;t even dress out?
Not to mention the $3 million Daye is being pay and the $8,060,000 sorry ass Charlie V. is getting, both or rather all three are not contributing in any tangible way.
That&#039;s $14,500,000 million in salary, plus Magette&#039;s $10,000,000 ... $24,500,000, easily 1/3 of the team salary that hasn&#039;t contributed anything, during this 0-8 start.
Mind blowing!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Vince, please help me to understand &#8230; Why in the hell did Joe and Gores offer the Ukrainian $1.5 million per year, before he even crossed the Atlantic and the guy doesn&#8217;t even dress out?<br />
Not to mention the $3 million Daye is being pay and the $8,060,000 sorry ass Charlie V. is getting, both or rather all three are not contributing in any tangible way.<br />
That&#8217;s $14,500,000 million in salary, plus Magette&#8217;s $10,000,000 &#8230; $24,500,000, easily 1/3 of the team salary that hasn&#8217;t contributed anything, during this 0-8 start.<br />
Mind blowing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HardyHar</title>
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		<dc:creator>HardyHar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally thought Drummond looked a little scared when he was in during the 4th. Did anyone else notice that? His productivity (and energy) went way down. Not sure if it was the cheap shot Westbrook gave him or what. I&#039;m wondering if his mental state is a bit unstable and that&#039;s the reason for the slow integration into the rotation. 
 
Either way, Max was a straight up beast and Monroe had a good game as well. It&#039;s going to be hard to get mins when they play well AND it&#039;s a tight game with a top tier team AND you&#039;re trying to get your first win. I probably would have done the same thing. 
 
As far as the rest of the rotation, we needed the best and most experienced in there in the early mins of the 4th. We looked helpless out there. We really missed Maghette tonight. I think he and Stuck would have been an ideal tandem to attack with to rack up fouls and get easy free throws in the 4th given how much the Thunder&#039;s defense disrupted out offense. 
 
Just saying. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally thought Drummond looked a little scared when he was in during the 4th. Did anyone else notice that? His productivity (and energy) went way down. Not sure if it was the cheap shot Westbrook gave him or what. I&#8217;m wondering if his mental state is a bit unstable and that&#8217;s the reason for the slow integration into the rotation. <br />
 <br />
Either way, Max was a straight up beast and Monroe had a good game as well. It&#8217;s going to be hard to get mins when they play well AND it&#8217;s a tight game with a top tier team AND you&#8217;re trying to get your first win. I probably would have done the same thing. <br />
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As far as the rest of the rotation, we needed the best and most experienced in there in the early mins of the 4th. We looked helpless out there. We really missed Maghette tonight. I think he and Stuck would have been an ideal tandem to attack with to rack up fouls and get easy free throws in the 4th given how much the Thunder&#8217;s defense disrupted out offense. <br />
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Just saying. </p>
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		<title>By: PistonManiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>PistonManiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I havent posted here in a while- How&#039;s everybody doing?
Everyone on here knows me as a Joe D supporter and appologist- There is absolutely nothing that anybody can do to denigrate Joe&#039;s past contributions: 3 Finals appearances and 2 championships as a player, and 2 Finals appearances and a Title (including 6 straight ECF appearances) as a GM. The GM of a team that he &lt;em&gt;completely &lt;/em&gt;rebuilt-The players on our &#039;04 championship team were all acquired by Joe D.


So it hurts me to read silly posts comparing Joe D to the likes of Matt Millen and Micheal Jordan as a GM. I actually enjoyed the Pistons winning a title so much that I chose not to overlook that fact as an inconvenience when I criticize Joe D today.


But here goes.  Joe &lt;em&gt;cannot&lt;/em&gt; continue to preside over the building of the Pistons if this team continues down the path that it is currently on. It seems that, now that he has finally found his touch in the draft, he lost it in signing free agents.


Tay Prince? Why is he still in Detroit? The Stuckey thing should&#039;ve ended once they were sure he couldn&#039;t become a PG- Stuckey has gone from a jumbo PG who can&#039;t shoot from the perimeter to a smallish SG...who &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; can&#039;t shoot. CV and Austin Daye- Two weak, tall 3-point shooters. J-Max- Not the worst, as some people would believe, but not a starter, and should really just be trade bait.


With four productive drafts in a row 09- Jerebko, 10- Monroe, 11- Knight and Singler, 12- Drummond and English, this team should be showing improvement, with the right veterans to accompany this young talent...But, it&#039;s been proven that &lt;em&gt;these&lt;/em&gt; veterans are not the right ones. I&#039;m not delusional enough to believe that a healthy Magette would&#039;ve contributed enough to win more than just the Sac game.


My expectations for this team were not huge, but I at least expected a lower-tiered playoff team.  This team, if they were where they should be, should look like Indiana or Philly did the year before last (2010): The 7th or 8th seed that gives the #1 and #2 teams some first round trouble ( a couple of wins and some close games&lt;em&gt;). That,&lt;/em&gt; IMO would consititute progress. 

 Joe D. had the magic touch for years, but he lost it when he traded for AI, and subsequently and disasterously signed CV and BG as free agents. Unless this team turns things around and shows some improvement, I&#039;m joining the &quot;Joe must go&quot; crew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I havent posted here in a while- How&#8217;s everybody doing?<br />
Everyone on here knows me as a Joe D supporter and appologist- There is absolutely nothing that anybody can do to denigrate Joe&#8217;s past contributions: 3 Finals appearances and 2 championships as a player, and 2 Finals appearances and a Title (including 6 straight ECF appearances) as a GM. The GM of a team that he <em>completely </em>rebuilt-The players on our &#8217;04 championship team were all acquired by Joe D.</p>
<p>So it hurts me to read silly posts comparing Joe D to the likes of Matt Millen and Micheal Jordan as a GM. I actually enjoyed the Pistons winning a title so much that I chose not to overlook that fact as an inconvenience when I criticize Joe D today.</p>
<p>But here goes.  Joe <em>cannot</em> continue to preside over the building of the Pistons if this team continues down the path that it is currently on. It seems that, now that he has finally found his touch in the draft, he lost it in signing free agents.</p>
<p>Tay Prince? Why is he still in Detroit? The Stuckey thing should&#8217;ve ended once they were sure he couldn&#8217;t become a PG- Stuckey has gone from a jumbo PG who can&#8217;t shoot from the perimeter to a smallish SG&#8230;who <em>still</em> can&#8217;t shoot. CV and Austin Daye- Two weak, tall 3-point shooters. J-Max- Not the worst, as some people would believe, but not a starter, and should really just be trade bait.</p>
<p>With four productive drafts in a row 09- Jerebko, 10- Monroe, 11- Knight and Singler, 12- Drummond and English, this team should be showing improvement, with the right veterans to accompany this young talent&#8230;But, it&#8217;s been proven that <em>these</em> veterans are not the right ones. I&#8217;m not delusional enough to believe that a healthy Magette would&#8217;ve contributed enough to win more than just the Sac game.</p>
<p>My expectations for this team were not huge, but I at least expected a lower-tiered playoff team.  This team, if they were where they should be, should look like Indiana or Philly did the year before last (2010): The 7th or 8th seed that gives the #1 and #2 teams some first round trouble ( a couple of wins and some close games<em>). That,</em> IMO would consititute progress. </p>
<p> Joe D. had the magic touch for years, but he lost it when he traded for AI, and subsequently and disasterously signed CV and BG as free agents. Unless this team turns things around and shows some improvement, I&#8217;m joining the &#8220;Joe must go&#8221; crew</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shabazz here we come</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shabazz here we come</p>
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		<title>By: apa8ren9</title>
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		<dc:creator>apa8ren9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that had anything to do with his arch enemy/nemesis Russell Westbrook?  /s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that had anything to do with his arch enemy/nemesis Russell Westbrook?  /s</p>
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		<title>By: Coach Frank Postgame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach Frank Postgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bottom line is, let&#039;s compete every night,&quot; Frank said. &quot;We will get our fair share of wins if we compete.&quot;

From The Detroit News: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121112/SPORTS0102/211120439#ixzz2C6kdh5F1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121112/SPORTS0102/211120439#ixzz2C6kdh5F1&lt;/a&gt; - cant make this stuff up... Commits like that MOTIVATE A CITY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bottom line is, let&#8217;s compete every night,&#8221; Frank said. &#8220;We will get our fair share of wins if we compete.&#8221;</p>
<p>From The Detroit News: <a href="http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121112/SPORTS0102/211120439#ixzz2C6kdh5F1" rel="nofollow">http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121112/SPORTS0102/211120439#ixzz2C6kdh5F1</a> - cant make this stuff up&#8230; Commits like that MOTIVATE A CITY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Coach Frank Postgame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach Frank Postgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would firing me do? Yeah you might hire another coach thats taller than me, he might even make better use of the talent on the team, he might even command more respect from the players, heck he might even had played the game on a college or professional level.... But HE WONT HAVE MY PROCESS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would firing me do? Yeah you might hire another coach thats taller than me, he might even make better use of the talent on the team, he might even command more respect from the players, heck he might even had played the game on a college or professional level&#8230;. But HE WONT HAVE MY PROCESS!!!</p>
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