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Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond duo: Exactly what Brandon Knight needs

Brian Packey of Detroit Bad Boys pointed out something interesting that slipped past my attention. In the brief time Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe played together last night, Brandon Knight was also awesome:

In just under six minutes of action together, Knight racked up four of his six assists while Monroe and Drummond were on the floor together. It could be a coincidence, but in addition to Monroe having success playing point forward, Knight seemed much more comfortable with extra space, as Monroe and Drummond spread things out and opened up the offense. Again, maybe it was a coincidence, but I can’t recall Knight ever coming close to four assists in six minutes before.

Hmm. Weird. Playing your most talented players makes your team better.

21 Comments

  • Nov 10, 20124:15 pm
    by Kane From Australia

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    Don’t be too hasty. Pistons need one more high draft pick before they can genuinely committ to trying to make the playoffs. Not developing Drummond properly and throwing him to much responsibilty too early could hamper his development considering he is so young and immature. The pistons are doing the right thing developing Drummond and tanking one more season

    • Nov 10, 20125:12 pm
      by labatts

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      Well, the other side of the coin is that you can “develop” them too much, as Portland did with Jermaine O’Neal.  He sat on the bench for ever. 
      Really, I don’t think the Pistons are in any danger of rushing their young players.
       

    • Nov 10, 20125:26 pm
      by Mark

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      I don’t buy that need one more high draft pick. Thats LAC mentality. They have enough young talent. If they want to make the playoffs they need to start adding vets around them who can produce consistently, not more rookies.

      Besides, how do you plan on paying all these high draft picks? Did you see what has happened to OKC with that model? So far they’ve been forced to trade 2 of their top 5 picks (Green/Harden) that they simply couldn’t keep because of the salary cap.

      It sounds great in theory, that if a bad team can get stars to come to them through the draft, why stop at just 1 or 2? Just keep tanking and yu can fill your whole roster with stars. However, the salary still prevents you from doing that, whether you get your stars through the draft or FA/trades.

      Eventually all those stars command max deals, and its impossible to keep all of them.

      Drummond/Monroe already look like potential future max players. Knight could end up getting paid big too. You can tank for another high draft pick, but odds are you won’t have him for his prime anyways, so what good is it?

      Probably the reasoning behind Joe being willing to trade the pick to CHA. He knows he can’t afford another high draft pick, salary wise.

      • Nov 10, 20125:39 pm
        by labatts

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        That’s the best rationale for that trade that I have heard yet.

      • Nov 10, 20125:40 pm
        by Patrick Hayes

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        “They have enough young talent. If they want to make the playoffs they need to start adding vets around them who can produce consistently, not more rookies.”

        One way that you acquire talented veterans is by cashing in young prospects in trades for them. So I agree, another young player doesn’t necessarily do much to make the Pistons better on the court (unless they win the lottery). But it certainly gives them another valuable trade chip. 

      • Nov 10, 20126:31 pm
        by Reaction

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        We need a valuable straight up shooter. The Thunder aren’t comparable to the Pistons unless you think that somehow magically either Andre/Monroe are going to be a Ibaka and Knight is going to be a Westbrook calibur player. I don’t buy the fact that we will have to use “max contracts” to keep any of our players except for maybe Monroe. + It would seem in Monroe’s nature to take a pay hit if he truly wanted to stay in Detroit which he seems to want to.

        • Nov 10, 20127:15 pm
          by Joe Dumars

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          Besides a shooter, overall this team needs better defenders in the starting line up, and the bench.

      • Nov 10, 20127:08 pm
        by jerrific

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        Maybe don’t bring up OKC if you’re trying to argue against that model? Regardless of what they’ve done with their picks, they’ve been able to come away with solid rotation players and will continue to contend for NBA titles for the foreseeable future. Just because they decided to go a different direction doesn’t mean the model didn’t work for them, clearly it did. 

        I also disagree because we have no where near the talent OKC does. The only player are this squad that looks like he might require a max contract someday is Monroe, and he still has a ways to go. Drommund also might reach that level, if he can add the skills and smarts to compliment his ridiculous athleticism. However, neither is a lock to ever make it to that level. Drafting in the lotto one more year wouldn’t hurt the Pistons, it would only add another valuable asset, whether that comes through draft or trade. 

        This team doesn’t need to tank to be a lotto team either. Realistically getting the best out of this team probably means drafting somewhere between the 8-14 range. 

        • Nov 10, 20129:37 pm
          by Reaction

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          Do you honestly think we have players of the calibur of a Durant or Westbrook? if so what are you smoking?

          • Nov 10, 201211:42 pm
            by jerrific

            I’m sorry, where are you getting this from? I said “I also disagree because we have no where near the talent OKC does.” Also “The only player on this squad that looks like he might require a max contract someday is Monroe, and he still has a ways to go.” I would go on, but clearly you read two sentences before jumping to your own conclusions, instead of actually, you know, reading the whole thing.

      • Nov 10, 20129:54 pm
        by tarsier

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        I am not yet convinced that Monroe and especially Drummond are max contract players. Monroe will definitely command 8 digits. Drummond probably will but you can never tell much of anything five and a half games into a player’s career.

        Also, OKC could afford to keep Harden. They chose not to because they will make more of a profit this way. but you’re kidding yourself if you think they couldn’t make a profit while paying some luxury tax. And by the time the contracts got real big, Perkins would be off the books (or he could be amnestied whenever).

        Jeff Green wasn’t worth the contract he wanted. 

  • Nov 10, 20124:55 pm
    by Vince

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    Well I don’t think Frank has much of a choice now, he has to play him, like Kelser and Blaha said yesterday, his confidence must be sky high, limiting his minutes now would ruin that and would go against Frank’s philosophy of earning your minutes.

    Good basketball returns to the Pistons! Drummond-Monroe-Knight is the core for a promising future!

  • Nov 10, 20124:57 pm
    by RalphHau

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    I am afraid to tell you that Mr Tom Gores does not agree with your assessment.  Drummond might be 19 years old but he is not fragile.  Drummond is ready to play, you sit him on the bench for too long and he might end up like A Daye, unsure of himself to the point that he is has lost all self confidence.

    • Nov 10, 20125:06 pm
      by Patrick Hayes

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      Are you a friend of Mr. Gores? Or Tom Gores himself, just speaking in third person?

      • Nov 10, 20125:11 pm
        by bvpiston

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        Patrick, I asked you a few days ago about any video of Blaha giving it to Robinson. I just found it a few hours ago on a YouTube channel you know as well and that has been mentioned before on PP. Here it is in case anybody else missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j56Tu0nmzyY. Gotta love Blaha!
         

        • Nov 10, 20125:12 pm
          by Vince

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          I love that! Remember watching the game and him going crazy. First time I’ve ever heard him so angry!

  • Nov 10, 20125:11 pm
    by L Boogie

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    I agree with everyone! I think L Frank does not want to show he was wrong for not playing Drummond with Monroe in the first place together; I say get over it admit you were wrong, play him NOW!!  do not wait; play Knight – stuckey – singler – monroe -drummond as your starting 5; then sub with bynum – english -JJ – Max -Prince; Lets o coah Frank, make the move or you will be seeing Tom Gores like Mitch Kupchak saying, we were not willing to wait, a change was needed.

  • Nov 10, 20125:19 pm
    by I LOVE U FRANK

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    Repost: Knight has made GREAT strides….even a Kentucky he was a late bloomer at PG ….. Kyrie Irving is currently averaging 6.5 ast and 4 to’s …. Knight is averaging 6.5 and 3 To’s … Now of course Knight isn’t a better scorer than Irving but he isn’t playing for a coach that is giving him the same freedom to either ….

    Knight plays best in a up-tempo offense and in half-court set he need swing players that can and will shoot the ball when they are open… That why he and Singler plays to well together …

    • Nov 10, 20126:55 pm
      by jerrific

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      You have a point. Kyrie Irving is the best player on a bad team. Knight is the second or third best player on a bad team. It would be interesting to see what Knight could do if he were THE guy, like Irving is over in Cleveland. 
       

  • Nov 10, 201210:35 pm
    by sb3

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    Well, unless the Pistons get rid of a certain two players who have long stagnated we’re never going to know. 

     

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