Comments on: Andre Drummond, Kyle Singler both drawing plenty of attention with their play http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Tue, 21 May 2013 15:38:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99226 tarsier Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:08:23 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99226 Wow, who knew that Singler was statistically the league's best transition player thus far this season? Wow, who knew that Singler was statistically the league’s best transition player thus far this season?

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99223 tarsier Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:38:22 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99223 And everyone forgets that offensive rebounds are a huge boost to the offense (essentially anti-turnovers). That was why Ben Wallace was never an offensive liability (except in times of hack-a-Ben, which could also be said of Drummond). And everyone forgets that offensive rebounds are a huge boost to the offense (essentially anti-turnovers). That was why Ben Wallace was never an offensive liability (except in times of hack-a-Ben, which could also be said of Drummond).

]]> By: XstreamINsanity http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99214 XstreamINsanity Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:45:01 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99214 That's because he's never been bred as an offensive player.  He has a LOT to work on in that area, and they'd rather him continue to work on his rebounding, blocking and defense in game situations right now, which is where we've been most deficient. That’s because he’s never been bred as an offensive player.  He has a LOT to work on in that area, and they’d rather him continue to work on his rebounding, blocking and defense in game situations right now, which is where we’ve been most deficient.

]]> By: tarsier http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99212 tarsier Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:36:01 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99212 Dumars has done a plenty good job of drafting without people trying to ridiculously add Budinger to his record. Yes, Dumars technically drafted Budinger. But Dumars didn't choose Budinger. He was making a deal with the Rockets, had not yet completed it, so they told him who to draft when he was on the clock. Give him credit for Afflalo, Amir Johnson, Jerebko, and others. But not Budinger. Dumars has done a plenty good job of drafting without people trying to ridiculously add Budinger to his record. Yes, Dumars technically drafted Budinger. But Dumars didn’t choose Budinger. He was making a deal with the Rockets, had not yet completed it, so they told him who to draft when he was on the clock. Give him credit for Afflalo, Amir Johnson, Jerebko, and others. But not Budinger.

]]> By: Matt http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99201 Matt Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:49:56 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99201 I haven't done a lot of research, but I'm guessing that getting two good players out of eight second round picks is pretty amazing. That would mean that, on average seven or eight second rounders each season become good players. Here's a list of players from the following draft who could be considered "good" players (obviously, it's early, but still) 2011 Kyle Singler Chandler Parsons Lavoy Allen E'Twaun Moore Isaiah Thomas 2010 Landry Fields <em>maybe</em> Lance Stephenson 2009 Dante Cunningham DeJuan Blair Jonas Jerebko (not necessarily this year, but in the past) Chase Budinger Danny Green A.J. Price So, in the last three drafts (I'm not including this year's draft) there were 10 or 11 players not drafted in the second round (but not by Dumars ) who could be considered serviceable players. Based on that, I'd say getting two players in three years in the second round is actually pretty impressive. I haven’t done a lot of research, but I’m guessing that getting two good players out of eight second round picks is pretty amazing. That would mean that, on average seven or eight second rounders each season become good players.

Here’s a list of players from the following draft who could be considered “good” players (obviously, it’s early, but still)

2011
Kyle Singler
Chandler Parsons
Lavoy Allen
E’Twaun Moore
Isaiah Thomas

2010
Landry Fields
maybe Lance Stephenson

2009
Dante Cunningham
DeJuan Blair
Jonas Jerebko (not necessarily this year, but in the past)
Chase Budinger
Danny Green
A.J. Price

So, in the last three drafts (I’m not including this year’s draft) there were 10 or 11 players not drafted in the second round (but not by Dumars ) who could be considered serviceable players. Based on that, I’d say getting two players in three years in the second round is actually pretty impressive.

]]> By: Alex http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99193 Alex Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:26:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99193 I've only seen a few games, but I am excited about Drummond. Blows my mind that he doesn't get more minutes.  If Frank was smart, he would look at past teams, and its certain shot blocking/rebounding specialist that helped lead us to a title.  I’ve only seen a few games, but I am excited about Drummond. Blows my mind that he doesn’t get more minutes.  If Frank was smart, he would look at past teams, and its certain shot blocking/rebounding specialist that helped lead us to a title. 

]]> By: labatts http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99021 labatts Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:48:40 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99021 Some other people Dumars' drafted are Arron Afflalo and Chase Budinger.  Those guys seem pretty good, so its hard to imagine why the Pistons are bad.  Oh, that's right... Dumars got rid of them.   By the way, if you go even further back, Dumars' drafting record starts to look pretty suspect.  I don't know if getting 2 good players out of 8 2nd rounders (we don't know about some of them because they don't play) really warrants any praise. Some other people Dumars’ drafted are Arron Afflalo and Chase Budinger.  Those guys seem pretty good, so its hard to imagine why the Pistons are bad.  Oh, that’s right… Dumars got rid of them.
 
By the way, if you go even further back, Dumars’ drafting record starts to look pretty suspect.  I don’t know if getting 2 good players out of 8 2nd rounders (we don’t know about some of them because they don’t play) really warrants any praise.

]]> By: danny http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99018 danny Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:41:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99018 his offense will be like anderson v at the moment.  Crashing the boards for put backs.  This allows our "shooters" to draw in the defense or double team and jack up shots.  The difference now is that drummond can clean up the mess.  Wait no he cant frank wont play him enough. his offense will be like anderson v at the moment.  Crashing the boards for put backs.  This allows our “shooters” to draw in the defense or double team and jack up shots.  The difference now is that drummond can clean up the mess.  Wait no he cant frank wont play him enough.

]]> By: lindsey http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99017 lindsey Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:33:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99017 <em>"No one is rooting for Drummond to play out of a belief that he’ll help the offense. Right now, he’s their best rebounder and shot-blocker."</em> <em> </em>Guess I am the only one that believes he can help the offense...yeah maybe he doesnt have a post move, but last time i checked alley oops and putback dunks are worth points too. “No one is rooting for Drummond to play out of a belief that he’ll help the offense. Right now, he’s their best rebounder and shot-blocker.”

Guess I am the only one that believes he can help the offense…yeah maybe he doesnt have a post move, but last time i checked alley oops and putback dunks are worth points too.

]]> By: gmehl http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/11/andre-drummond-kyle-singler-both-drawing-plenty-of-attention-with-their-play/comment-page-1/#comment-99012 gmehl Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:02:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=11898#comment-99012 <em>"He simply struggles in any situation that requires finesse, and lacks the kind of touch on his interior attempts that would allow him to score over or around defenders".</em>   I would really love to know who is working with Drummond on his low post game. The last i read it was big man coach Roy Rogers who from all reports is pretty good. I have read many different posts where people have mentioned we should get him to work with Hakeem, Kareem or Ewing. To tell you the truth if Drummond could emulate 15% of Hakeem, Kareem or Ewings game it would be well worth it. If he could develop a consistent hook and some nimble foot work the kid would be a double double machine. “He simply struggles in any situation that requires finesse, and lacks the kind of touch on his interior attempts that would allow him to score over or around defenders”.
 
I would really love to know who is working with Drummond on his low post game. The last i read it was big man coach Roy Rogers who from all reports is pretty good. I have read many different posts where people have mentioned we should get him to work with Hakeem, Kareem or Ewing. To tell you the truth if Drummond could emulate 15% of Hakeem, Kareem or Ewings game it would be well worth it. If he could develop a consistent hook and some nimble foot work the kid would be a double double machine.

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